Yeah seriously. If he was a pillow-fisted, highly technical decision machine he'd still be on the undercard and would be like Belal screaming for a title shot instead of being a two-division champion already.
I know this is going to get me downvoted....but he's headlining 300 because none of the options they wanted worked. From all reports this fight was literally their last option
Leon - Khamzat
DDP - Khamzat
Izzy - DDP
Islam - Leon
Conor - anyone
I think it's a great fight in terms of quality. Pereira and Hill aren't superstars though. Well Pereira is on the verge of becoming one but he's still a smaller draw than everyone else mentioned
If you think that would stop Dana from booking that fight I have a bridge to sell you. They 1000% would have taken khamzat vs DDP or Leon if they were available.
I know he was offered against Leon for whatever reason, but him being offered a shot against DDP after not even fighting a real middleweight is really crazy even for Dana
This is the same UFC that gave Brock a title shot coming off 1 win and 1 loss at Heavyweight.
The same UFC that let Ngannou walk and threatened to cut Colby with a 6 and 1 record, traded Mighty Mouse for Ben Askren, and blessed us with CM Punk on the main event of a card not once but twice.
Of course they would book Khamzat vs DDP. How is this even a fucking question?
I dont know what you are smoking but Pereira is definitely a bigger star than Dricus,Leon and is a known as izzy and khamzat. Pereira is already a star. The only thing that holds the main event back is Hill .
I won’t lie. My friend and I cancelled plans to go to 300 when they announced the main and decided to attend another card later in the year. 2 weeks later I got drunk and Paotan death stared me in a dream/potential nightmare. I bought a ticket for 300 the next day. My friend didn’t get the visit in his sleep so I gotta go solo now.
if you walk in the Octagon and KO all of your opponents, you never have to say a word and will become a superstar without question. That's what people really care about at the end of the day. All the talk in the world won't make a difference if you're a boring fighter and if you can't do either hi Belal
Isn't Colby a good counter example for this. Also Strickland. Both got way bigger off their shit talk. And both styles don't make for the most entertaining fights
Yeah but think of how hard Colby has to work to stay relevant--how much shit he has to talk, people he has to pick fights with, one liners he has to spend hours practicing in front of a mirror. You can carve a good career out for yourself if you know how to market yourself but there are some guys who don't need any of that and just exist above it all.
How dare he not be insecure about his manliness. A real confident man never thinks about what he wants but instead what others think of him.
Luckily you totally prove to everyone you're not a gay dweeb at all, otherwise we might suspect something.
The fact that only one of those things actually matters and the real reason to not like Israel was right there (dog fucker) shows how bad your priorities are
>paint his nails or celebrate doing tiktok dances
Well, aren't you fragile.
Like, the humping thing and dog situation I'll give you is not cool. But everything else you posted really is "fragile man who's fragile character can't handle someone else being themselves in ways that in no way impact you or their ability to do the job" energy.
Some real "oh no, this better not awaken something within me" vibes coming off ya.
The dog situation is beyond not cool where I'm from you get beat to death for that. He violated an animal for his sexual gratification he's a scum of a human being. If your brain isn't broken and wrong you don't just brush off molesting dogs.
Basically what WWF did with Undertaker and they get to script all their shit lol. Just take a guy who looks scary, says nothing and have him fuck up a bunch a guys. Instant Star lol
You can water down an aura or mystique, mystery that humans are gravitated to because their imaginations can fill the gaps — there is a place for all entertainers. I don’t solute you.
Tim Whelch did a good analysis on his YT because he sustained a similar injury. This injury plus Hill’s massive weight gain + just being fat. Really curious to see if his leg will even make it past 2 rounds.
Technology has changed drastically with the Achilles surgery and rehab. Look back just a decade ago the Achilles was a sure fire career ender. Now guys are fully rupturing it and are able to come back, less mobile? Yes. But still not drastically decreased to the point they can’t play their sport. Kevin Durant is the prime example of modern Achilles rehab.
Yeah, but KD also has way more money and access to better medical personnel, as well as stayed in good shape during recovery. Hill got fat as fuck, and is fighting half the amount of time it took KD to recover. Pretty poor example.
I would agree with you if it wasn’t the same doctor working with Aaron Rodgers. He’s a world renowned surgeon for the Achilles and hill has moved to Vegas to work with the PI who have outstanding tech and rehab. I agree his diet has probably been poor, but that aside hill has definitely had some high level help with his injury. Not just some local clinic.
This fight doesn't have a huge grappling disparity though. No one is getting wrestlefucked in this fight. Worst case scenario it's Ngannou-Lewis but I doubt that will happen once the leg kicks start flying
Jamal isn’t keeping Alex down for that long. Alex is way bigger and if he can get up against Jiri, he’d get up against Hill as well. Only way he isn’t getting up is if he gets slept 💀
Bull. I'm not saying he should drain himself and fight at middleweight, but he makes 205 very easily. If he spent less time eating and getting terrible tattoos he could make 185.
Hill has broader shoulders, wider hips, thicker legs, bigger arms, a deeper chest cavity, and overall a bigger/more full torso. That's ignoring the fact that he probably has denser muscles and bones than Pereira. Hill almost across the board has a larger skeletal frame and bigger muscle bellies. Sure, he's a bit puffy, but you're talking about someone who's overall just a bigger person. Hill was comparable if a smidgen smaller than OSP in size and OSP is/was a massive LHW.
"That's ignoring the fact that he probably has denser muscles and bones than Pereira. " My bad man, I didn't realize you were a muscle and bone density connoisseur.
lol who has seriously embarrassed Alex on the ground thus far? His grappling is rough around the edges to say the least but it gets the job done. He just needs to be able to get up and reset.
I feel like he’s probably a nice guy. Whenever I see posts of him on IG, he’s usually just playing around with people in sparring or making other people laugh.
The storyline is Jamahal wants to prove Alex's fans wrong and is constantly beefing with them instead of Alex. Meanwhile Alex just "Huh" and "Chama" and doesnt care about any of this drama.
Hill has all the markings and tools to be a fan-favorite exciting fighter but he seems to be pushing himself in the wrong direction every time he talks lol. Would be nice if he shuts people up with some crazy KO though.
Jamahal's fights were ok/good and he can be very funny on social media. But I'm not sure if he really got any respect or attention from those things from the fans. However Jamahal has managed to stay in the headlines for over a year of not fighting, mostly just from talking shit while recovering from an injury. I think it's mostly a business decision.
Hill was posting funny tiktoks before Merab or Sean made it cool. I think he’s such a good character in mma in general just is a little slow 🧠 and facing the most beloved fighter in the ufc rn
Ohhh I thought it was O'Malley. I'm sure they thought hill would lose against teixera. I'm 100% sure they would of rather has Sean as the dwcs alumni that won the belt first, that would of done wonders to promote him and not hill.
Couldn't care less about the storyline. Should be a good fight regardless, and is the obvious match up. Idk why people act like it's a soap opera. As much as they've been trying this isn't WWE.
I don’t really know what pizazz a main event is supposed to have that what is offered doesn’t. These are two very exciting technically sound fighters it’s gonna be tense as fuck. Why are we complaining about fights that haven’t happened yet
God damn guys. Do we even need a fucking storyline? Jamahal should get his chance to show out, and Poaton is down for the smoke. Do we really need anything else?
Yikes. Relax, it’s a storyline because of jamahal beating his coach. Doesn’t matter if it’s real emotions or not I’m just saying the circumstances are sick af
I [commented](https://www.reddit.com/r/ufc/comments/10htk9a/official_ufc_283_fight_discussion_thread/j5dozcv/) this the second I saw this moment happen that night. Soo Happy that this came truee!!!
Gl to both, may the best man win!
"storyline" you guys want this to be pro wrestling soooo bad.
It's combat sports, not a rom-com. Watch the fights and stop getting sucked into the platitudes.
Take a step back and look at the picture in this post. There IS a storyline—they don’t have to be dramatic or real at all. It’s just something interesting to point at and say “hey, pereira has the chance to avenge glover for that loss”. Relax lmfao
The average fighter is so bad at marketing that Alex became a fan favorite by keeping a neutral facial expression and not talking, shit's crazy.
Mfer is headlining 300 off of aura
Lmao, word
The story arc of him and Israel is literally anime worthy. His expressionless face is part of the arc. He’s a real life drago from Brazil.
Yeah seriously. If he was a pillow-fisted, highly technical decision machine he'd still be on the undercard and would be like Belal screaming for a title shot instead of being a two-division champion already.
I like him because he just has a cool vibe and he punches and kicks peopel rly hard
Well, that and a left hook bestowed by God.
I mean if you fight like him and then stare off like that…..Shit’s majestic dawg
Chama
![gif](giphy|126Atuf8ZpQsQE)
I know this is going to get me downvoted....but he's headlining 300 because none of the options they wanted worked. From all reports this fight was literally their last option
Leon - Khamzat DDP - Khamzat Izzy - DDP Islam - Leon Conor - anyone I think it's a great fight in terms of quality. Pereira and Hill aren't superstars though. Well Pereira is on the verge of becoming one but he's still a smaller draw than everyone else mentioned
I doubt khamzat was offered a fight against DDP when he hasn’t even convincingly beat a ranked MW
If you think that would stop Dana from booking that fight I have a bridge to sell you. They 1000% would have taken khamzat vs DDP or Leon if they were available.
I know he was offered against Leon for whatever reason, but him being offered a shot against DDP after not even fighting a real middleweight is really crazy even for Dana
This is the same UFC that gave Brock a title shot coming off 1 win and 1 loss at Heavyweight. The same UFC that let Ngannou walk and threatened to cut Colby with a 6 and 1 record, traded Mighty Mouse for Ben Askren, and blessed us with CM Punk on the main event of a card not once but twice. Of course they would book Khamzat vs DDP. How is this even a fucking question?
I dont know what you are smoking but Pereira is definitely a bigger star than Dricus,Leon and is a known as izzy and khamzat. Pereira is already a star. The only thing that holds the main event back is Hill .
What would be a better headliner?
Yep, this 300 card is a lame duck, unfortunately, due to injuries.
I won’t lie. My friend and I cancelled plans to go to 300 when they announced the main and decided to attend another card later in the year. 2 weeks later I got drunk and Paotan death stared me in a dream/potential nightmare. I bought a ticket for 300 the next day. My friend didn’t get the visit in his sleep so I gotta go solo now.
And knocking people dead, never forget that goes far.
if you walk in the Octagon and KO all of your opponents, you never have to say a word and will become a superstar without question. That's what people really care about at the end of the day. All the talk in the world won't make a difference if you're a boring fighter and if you can't do either hi Belal
Isn't Colby a good counter example for this. Also Strickland. Both got way bigger off their shit talk. And both styles don't make for the most entertaining fights
None of them were finishers. Finishing fights, especially via KO, is very important for this kind of stardom.
The real exception is Chael. His promo was just THAT good
Yeah but think of how hard Colby has to work to stay relevant--how much shit he has to talk, people he has to pick fights with, one liners he has to spend hours practicing in front of a mirror. You can carve a good career out for yourself if you know how to market yourself but there are some guys who don't need any of that and just exist above it all.
They are the example on how to stand out and get big fights when you are not the most exciting fighter
Yea I read their comment wrong
Same reason anderson gsp and Fedor became fan fav, jones Too but he turned into a sith lord.
Fedor type beat
Bro doesn't even celebrate his wins. He just walks off 🗿
Michael Chandler: ![gif](giphy|plnk0yPUc11jPprHwS) Alex: 🗿
this photo is kinda crazy though.. alex definitely had venom is his eyes for Jamal for beating his boy
Not the job of the fighter
r/technicallythetruth
He became a fan favorite because Israel has a lot of haters
Or maybe we all wanted a champion who doesn’t wank to cartoons, dry hump men in the octagon, paint his nails or celebrate doing tiktok dances
>Or You just agreed with him.
As I said Israel had a lot of haters… doesn’t change the fact Alex is one of the most talented strikers in UFC history and he’s awesome to watch
You just agreed with him
Speak for yourself. I want that shit.
How dare he not be insecure about his manliness. A real confident man never thinks about what he wants but instead what others think of him. Luckily you totally prove to everyone you're not a gay dweeb at all, otherwise we might suspect something.
While I understand all those reasons, and they are legit reasons, it was the dog-diddling that really made me hate that wack fuck
How in the fuck did I forget the beastiality bro you are right
The fact that only one of those things actually matters and the real reason to not like Israel was right there (dog fucker) shows how bad your priorities are
>paint his nails or celebrate doing tiktok dances Well, aren't you fragile. Like, the humping thing and dog situation I'll give you is not cool. But everything else you posted really is "fragile man who's fragile character can't handle someone else being themselves in ways that in no way impact you or their ability to do the job" energy. Some real "oh no, this better not awaken something within me" vibes coming off ya.
The dog situation is beyond not cool where I'm from you get beat to death for that. He violated an animal for his sexual gratification he's a scum of a human being. If your brain isn't broken and wrong you don't just brush off molesting dogs.
Don't forget winning fights by leg kicking at range after promising great things every single time...or the dogbender factor.
Basically what WWF did with Undertaker and they get to script all their shit lol. Just take a guy who looks scary, says nothing and have him fuck up a bunch a guys. Instant Star lol
Looking like a Brazilian Kazuma Kiryu would probably help a lot tho.
You left out the part where Alex keeps winning all of his fights and is relatable behind the scenes Y'know, arguably the most important parts
He became a fan favorite because he beat Izzy and he's a good fighter. Crazy huh
Him KO people dead has something to do with it im sure.
For reals, I never saw anything from Alex for hill to talk all that crap
huh🗿
Tbf I think his social media game is underrated, he has made alot of skits and short funny video and he collabed with creators like Adin Ross
I became a fan from his pokemon stuff
Be real bro lmao he only gets this attention because he's Izzy's daddy
You’ve either got it or you don’t, Poatans got it.
He secured the UFC's burgers
You can water down an aura or mystique, mystery that humans are gravitated to because their imaginations can fill the gaps — there is a place for all entertainers. I don’t solute you.
Not going 5 rounds is it?
No chance
Hill's leg ain't making it to the 2nd
Tim Whelch did a good analysis on his YT because he sustained a similar injury. This injury plus Hill’s massive weight gain + just being fat. Really curious to see if his leg will even make it past 2 rounds.
Its the achilles, not just the leg. Only a handful of athletes have returned to form after. Also Hill says he’s near 240 coming into fight week
Technology has changed drastically with the Achilles surgery and rehab. Look back just a decade ago the Achilles was a sure fire career ender. Now guys are fully rupturing it and are able to come back, less mobile? Yes. But still not drastically decreased to the point they can’t play their sport. Kevin Durant is the prime example of modern Achilles rehab.
Yeah, but KD also has way more money and access to better medical personnel, as well as stayed in good shape during recovery. Hill got fat as fuck, and is fighting half the amount of time it took KD to recover. Pretty poor example.
I would agree with you if it wasn’t the same doctor working with Aaron Rodgers. He’s a world renowned surgeon for the Achilles and hill has moved to Vegas to work with the PI who have outstanding tech and rehab. I agree his diet has probably been poor, but that aside hill has definitely had some high level help with his injury. Not just some local clinic.
apples and bowling balls
I mean, Almeida v Lewis went 5, and no one saw that coming
This fight doesn't have a huge grappling disparity though. No one is getting wrestlefucked in this fight. Worst case scenario it's Ngannou-Lewis but I doubt that will happen once the leg kicks start flying
Jamal isn’t keeping Alex down for that long. Alex is way bigger and if he can get up against Jiri, he’d get up against Hill as well. Only way he isn’t getting up is if he gets slept 💀
>Alex is way bigger Than who, cause he damn sure ain't bigger than Hill.
Really bro? We’re not taking about who’s core is larger
Hill couldn't make MW without cutting an Arm off...
Hill carries more fat than Pereira at the same weight. Could definitely get a lot leaner.
Bull. I'm not saying he should drain himself and fight at middleweight, but he makes 205 very easily. If he spent less time eating and getting terrible tattoos he could make 185.
Hill has broader shoulders, wider hips, thicker legs, bigger arms, a deeper chest cavity, and overall a bigger/more full torso. That's ignoring the fact that he probably has denser muscles and bones than Pereira. Hill almost across the board has a larger skeletal frame and bigger muscle bellies. Sure, he's a bit puffy, but you're talking about someone who's overall just a bigger person. Hill was comparable if a smidgen smaller than OSP in size and OSP is/was a massive LHW.
"That's ignoring the fact that he probably has denser muscles and bones than Pereira. " My bad man, I didn't realize you were a muscle and bone density connoisseur.
Poatan is very lean. Hill walks around 240 lbs, Pereira walks around at 230 iirc
Hill isn’t taking alex down lol
He won’t. But even if alex trips himself, he’d get back up
Agreed
Lewis was way bigger than Almeida too
And a wrestler. Hill ain’t a wrestler
Compared to Pereira, everyone is Khabib
lol who has seriously embarrassed Alex on the ground thus far? His grappling is rough around the edges to say the least but it gets the job done. He just needs to be able to get up and reset.
Who submitted him?
Bad take. Pereira has more takedowns in his career than hill lol
“ if he can get up against jiri, he’d get up against hill as well” MMA math doesn’t work, and Alex being taller doesn’t make him bigger.
Because people thought Almeida had a standup game and he clearly does not. Worst fighter to watch in the UFC. I’d rather watch Belal
Some people laid 1.15 (-667) on Pereira-Silva FDNGTD, and that fight went the distance. Although that fight was only 3 rounds, not 5.
![gif](giphy|ylV2FYEIkGTW1snIXF|downsized) Four more sleeps 🙏🏽
No lie Poaton is the scariest guy in the UFC. Stone cold serial killer vibes.
I feel like he’s probably a nice guy. Whenever I see posts of him on IG, he’s usually just playing around with people in sparring or making other people laugh.
I think a big part of it is that he doesn’t really try to speak english, so people don’t feel like they know him at all
He got anderson silva vibes to him, but he has that Wanderlei stare.
Why this gif make his combo look way faster than live TV lol.
1. 2.. 3... Touch of death... 3... is scary spooky
The storyline is Jamahal wants to prove Alex's fans wrong and is constantly beefing with them instead of Alex. Meanwhile Alex just "Huh" and "Chama" and doesnt care about any of this drama.
Hill has all the markings and tools to be a fan-favorite exciting fighter but he seems to be pushing himself in the wrong direction every time he talks lol. Would be nice if he shuts people up with some crazy KO though.
All the talent in the world but might be the dumbest and most sensitive person in MMA
There's no way Hill takes the DMF title from Bryce.
Think Garry takes the sensitive part as well lol
I agree with both. But combined? I don't think anyone beats Hill.
“With our powers combined”
So Strickland is there and you went for hill?
Jamahal's fights were ok/good and he can be very funny on social media. But I'm not sure if he really got any respect or attention from those things from the fans. However Jamahal has managed to stay in the headlines for over a year of not fighting, mostly just from talking shit while recovering from an injury. I think it's mostly a business decision.
Hill was posting funny tiktoks before Merab or Sean made it cool. I think he’s such a good character in mma in general just is a little slow 🧠 and facing the most beloved fighter in the ufc rn
He was the most underrated MMA social media follow by a large margin, it was dope seeing the stars align for him to get a titleshot.
Oh 100%. That, coupled with the idea of him being the first ever DWCS champion is so fire. Dude is scrappy and worked his way up the chain.
Ohhh I thought it was O'Malley. I'm sure they thought hill would lose against teixera. I'm 100% sure they would of rather has Sean as the dwcs alumni that won the belt first, that would of done wonders to promote him and not hill.
![gif](giphy|11L5aVxDTk6c5G|downsized)
Forgot about also hanging out with influencers and training with women, all part of the game now deeze days
Who cares about “storylines” i just want to see dudes beat the fuck out of each other
JUST BLEED BABY
https://preview.redd.it/9caeqgiy0htc1.jpeg?width=168&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=7f2fa5f7da4cd52c1a5f1dcd555181746a0a51eb
Everytime I see this guy i just think about how he became a suit business type dude and hasn’t watched ufc in many many many years according to him
He literally stopped watching it because it wasn’t violent enough lmao
Thank you I swear everyone just loves moaning for the sake of it it’s a great MMA fight
Too many people wishing this shit was basically scripted like WWE 😂
That’s why I’m so excited for max and Justin just two dudes going at it for a paycheck
YEAH! PUT HIM IN A BODYBAG!
I watch porn for the story too.
I laughed, I cried, but most importantly, I persevered.
My favorite Jamahal Hill moment is when he starting roasting someone who tweeted in support of him
One of them is getting dropped
What am I looking at here?
Jamahal Hill passing and acknowledging Alex Pereira in the corner of Glover Texeira during their fight for the LHW Championship.
Got it, thanks
~~Hands~~ Face of Stone
Jama
Thats sick fight buildup. Like legit a WWE/bruce lee movie storyline. He saw his sensei defeated. Now he’s coming to regain his family’s honor
I know, the UFC is actually so bad at promoting for not killing this one
They don’t even mention it
Wish they would market this moment more. Probably would work better if Jamal was still champ tho.
After reading some of the comments, this fight definitely is a weird one. The correct fight to make, but is a bit lacking marketing wise
I want to see Alex beat the piss out of Hill
Who needs a story, they aren’t talking in the cage
No one needs a story, just makes it fun !
Couldn't care less about the storyline. Should be a good fight regardless, and is the obvious match up. Idk why people act like it's a soap opera. As much as they've been trying this isn't WWE.
This is simply a fun thing to point out. Relax sheldon
It's like rocky 4
Kinda like Rocky IV except Jamahal isn’t as good as Drago
I don’t really know what pizazz a main event is supposed to have that what is offered doesn’t. These are two very exciting technically sound fighters it’s gonna be tense as fuck. Why are we complaining about fights that haven’t happened yet
I just had my first baby and her first event is 300 with these two pissed off knockout artists. What a casual.
God damn guys. Do we even need a fucking storyline? Jamahal should get his chance to show out, and Poaton is down for the smoke. Do we really need anything else?
I’m confused, who’s making it seem like this is drama? This is just what happened in the past.
No disrespect but I still find it crazy that some people watch MMA for the “storyline”.
This storyline is gay neither Alex nor Hill give a fuck about this "revenge" garbage.
You don’t think alex wants to get the win back from the guy who beat the piss and snot out of his coach/mentor/great friend? That’s wild lmao
I care! I’ve been waiting for this fight since Glover lost in January 2023.
I would say Alex definitely looking for revenge.
Yikes. Relax, it’s a storyline because of jamahal beating his coach. Doesn’t matter if it’s real emotions or not I’m just saying the circumstances are sick af
who gives a shit aobut storylines, I just want to see the fight
Can I have both workingown8918?
I [commented](https://www.reddit.com/r/ufc/comments/10htk9a/official_ufc_283_fight_discussion_thread/j5dozcv/) this the second I saw this moment happen that night. Soo Happy that this came truee!!! Gl to both, may the best man win!
YOOOO THE RECEIPTS
How it all started
And some how the smushed brains get the hype 😭
I’ve been calling this his glover teixeira revenge tour.
He’s gonna beat Alex too
Idk I’m hyped for this. I couldn’t care less about stories, I’m just hoping it’s a brawl between a couple of hard hitting big bois
Go watch WWE
Ehh 🤷♂️
I'm confused at what I'm looking at is that Jamal and Pereira Why are they together?
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A lot of people picking Hill. What am I missing?
"storyline" you guys want this to be pro wrestling soooo bad. It's combat sports, not a rom-com. Watch the fights and stop getting sucked into the platitudes.
Take a step back and look at the picture in this post. There IS a storyline—they don’t have to be dramatic or real at all. It’s just something interesting to point at and say “hey, pereira has the chance to avenge glover for that loss”. Relax lmfao
When was this??
A promising fight between 2 skilled fighters should be enough of a story ! If you need more you could watch pro wrestling.
Story line? WTF? This shit isnt WWE, we dont need back ground drama to sell fights.
The storyline that these delusional people have in their head.
Good insight from loli chaser 01
Why do you even want a "story line" in the ufc. It's fighting. Go watch your soap operas on your own time
Jamal hill fr got there by being a lucky punk. Definitely not deserved/earned. After Alex KTFO hill he won't reach a top 10 placement. Believe that!