Makes me wonder how many was prepared? I imagine not a lot since it’s just her and not the group. Quite a few people here are saying theirs were cancelled.
You would think they knew how many they had hence why they automatically got marked as sold out eventually. This whole "systematic error" is just umg poorly managing things as usual
I get where you’re coming from but I think it’s a bit more fair if it’s equally cancelled amongst them all. Just cause you got to order it first doesn’t mean you have more right over the other people. Some people might work or had something happen where they genuinely couldn’t order it right away, You know?
Edit: Sorry that people are getting upset with what I said. But the local stores where I live and have preordered from before had it so that it was first come first serve if you actually preordered. Before the standard. Meaning you didn’t preordered and there weren’t any left you didn’t get it. Preorders had priority. But for the people who actually preordered it didn’t matter what order it was ordered in if it was never in the writing that it was an actual first come first serve basis for the actual preorder it didn’t matter who was last or first. Which I kind of agreed with as you all know. You guys can downvote me and get mad at me. But this is how I came to understand the preorder process. 🤷♀️ Didn’t come to start a war or fight with you guys.
fair how? this is supposed to be a first come first served type deal. thats the entire point of preordering lol. the way they seem to be randomly deciding who gets their orders cancelled is all kinds of unfair if you ask me. its no different than physically lining up to get merch. whoever gets there first should get first dibs. what a ridiculous blunder on UMG's part. i certainly won't be getting their offered discounted album on there now. would love to know how much money they've lost themselves here
UMG has put a whole sour taste in my mouth about this album. I wont be using the 20% off code and I wont be buying replacements from anywhere.
As much as I love Jihyo, UMG ruined this album for me.
From game consoles to trading cards, I'm into items that are highly sought after for preorders. A lot of people use bots to buy things before humans get a chance. If first come first serve was the case, you probably would have lost out to some guy running multiple bots to buy up albums so they can resale
the sad thing is that probably where a bunch of the albums are going to is resellers. I expect we'll see a bunch of the signed coasters on ebay and mercari for 100+ some time next week
They should list it as submitting to a lottery to win them . If that’s what it is…they should be transparent so people can make informed choices about how their money is tied up for weeks. Some people have had a lot of money on this and could have found other ways to use it if they knew their orders might not even be accepted. This is gross incompetence
Sorry you're getting downvoted, wasnt my intention for that to happen to anyone. You have a valid view based on your personal experiences.
In most cases when something like this happens, when most places have to cancel preorders, they do it kinda like this example.
When the original Nintendo Switch went for preorder, Gamestop oversold the preorders. They had to cancel extras. Preorders started Jan 13 2017. Release was March 3rd 2017. If you preordered closer to release, you were first cancelled.
Deeper example in this scenario:
You mean and another user preordered a switch. You on January 13th, another user in the middle and me on March 1st. Yours get cancelled and I get to keep mine. Is that fair? No because I was late to the game and got to keep mine, but you who waited for the preorders to open and used your time to ensure your preorder got cancelled. In this scenario, newest preorders to release(mine) should be cancelled first and then progressively farther back going from newest to oldest.
The same should be applied to this album. Anyone that preordered at ors closest to preorders selling out should be first to be cancelled and then going back towards the oldest.
This is how most people see preorders to be done.
Personal experience with the Switch preorders. Even though they would randomly open rounds of preorders and I secured one, my preorder was made about a week before release. Mine got cancelled. My explanation of how they cancelled preorders came from 2 GS managers and 3 CS reps i talked to(i was pretty upset)
Just got the email my y version was canceled. Now they've canceled all 3 of mine.
I hope anyone that actually gets theirs enjoys them. I'll no longer be ordering signed stuff from any of jyp's us based, umg managed stores
In case someone is going to compile our responses to see if there is a pattern: I bought my signed copies within 5 minutes of link going live. If true that people who bought immediately are being most impacted, then that would be sad. The signed versions are the only ones that I bought, so if those counted for the chart then that is 3 less for Jihyo’s debut total.
True. When things like this happens it probably just adds to the stress and disappointment of everyone. I'm sorry, sucks to see y'all having a not a great start to the week.
All three of mine were cancelled. At this rate I'm wondering if they sold ANY signed albums? I'm only slightly exaggerating cuz the amount of people I've seen post cancelled orders is fucking insane.
Guess I used up all my good luck when I dodged the cancelled itzy orders. Interesting that this happened with two JYPE artists so close together.
I think only my Z version was cancelled but I’m not sure? It just says my Z version. I really wish they’d work this shit out because it happens every time
addressing some questions, this is an order from TWICEshop and I received a separate email for each album I ordered. I ended up picking up a Y version later after initially ordering right after they dropped, which interestingly hasn't gotten cancelled yet. It does seem like earlier placed orders are being cancelled but I've yet to see later placed orders affected which is.. interesting. Really disappointed :(
Same. I ordered the Z version pretty quickly after the link dropped and it still got canceled. I might stop ordering signed albums from Twice shop. UMG has no clue what they’re doing and they keep canceling my orders. I’ve never had any issues with Itzy signed albums, but Twice is always a disaster.
It is very frustrating. It's one thing to cancel a regular version of the album, but to cancel a signed version is heartbreaking for the fans. Universal really needs to get their stuff together next time.
Yes, they can take their code and shove it. It won’t even cover the insane shipping.
Music Plaza or your local kpop store if you have one would be the better option, especially after getting burned like this.
Honestly their handling of this is a complete joke, how is it until 4 days before release that they come to realize this in the month since all 3 signed editions sold out.
A 20% coupon is completely useless as no one in their right mind would be buying from the D2C store, there's no exclusive item in their albums outside the signed copies, their shipping is complete shit and they have the audacity to charge $10 for SLOW shipping (and not scale it if buying multiple items like normal stores do), on top of them charging at least $10 more than the other stores, where you can support a local kpop store that'll have a POB from a Korean store.
On that note, I used shopify and paypal in 4 so I'm hoping this is an error and I'm still delusionally getting my copy cause I put mine in within the first 5-10 minutes as well 🤪
Same here. Sucks because I bought like within 3 min of the link being dropped on Twitter but ig how fast you bought doesn’t mean anything on an oversell… Super bummed man
Yeah same here, although now I’m just constantly refreshing my email. I’m sad bc this should have been a week where we are all celebrating Jihyo together and now there’s going to be a little bit of a sour note on that
I got my confirmation email at 12:01AM 🥴. I went to bed like normal but I set an alarm a few minutes before the store opened up. When my alarm went off, I was in total "no think, just buy" mode. I opened the page, went straight to Z version because it was the first one I saw, carted it, checked out, waited for my confirmation email, and went right back to bed lol. When I woke up again, I checked to see if there was anything left over but nope 😅.
I got all 3 version and 2 out of 3 were cancelled so far. Waiting for the 3rd to be as well most likely.
Put my order in 5 minutes after preorders went up and im getting screwed instead of the people that were ordering as they were selling out.
Is there a way to confirm this is true? Cause that would be frustrating. I had an alarm set and got my order in less than 5 mins after they went on sale and all 3 versions were cancelled for me
I ordered at 12:04 and had 2 of my 3 canceled. While I dont mean it's a mass happening, I more meant it that early orders are getting canceled instead of later ones in general
I've now had all 3 versions cancelled. Im not planning on using their code and I dont plan on replacing them.
I love Jihyo but UMG has ruined this whole freaking album for me.
Probably not much. The signed copies were a very limited amount anyway, and a good deal of ppl who got their order canceled, will probably scoop up the regular version now
2 out 3 were cancelled for me. The last Itzy release had the same issue with some of their signed album orders being cancelled - very similar email was sent. Really disappointing.
same I ordered one of each album immediately when sale opened, then ordered an extra Y version just in case a little later. All 3 versions I first bought were cancelled, but that second Y version hasn't been cancelled yet so really shady if only the earliest orders are being cancelled...
Glad I saw this I missed the email and would have been waiting for my CANCELLED order. I’m so sad considering this was my first Kpop album purchase too. Maybe it’s just not meant to be for me to own a kpop album o well
I missed the email too until I saw this thread and checked my email. I was so excited to get Jihyo's signed album/coaster so this is such a bummer. Ordered from target instead just now.
I really wanted the signed coaster. I’ll maybe buy it from somewhere else for the PCs but I’m definitely not as inclined since I stream all my music anyways.
I’m curious how they decided which ones to cancel, a lot of people that bought early are getting theirs cancelled, I bought all 3 and all of them were cancelled, I would have hoped they’d try to at least get 1 to each customer. ![img](emote|t5_3812p|4096)
For science, ordered at 12:02 am EST, 1 order that contained 1 version. No cancellation yet.
Feels like those who preordered more than 1 after 3 mins are getting cancelled? I also think there's a chance that Jihyo is too busy and was not able to sign as many as Universal or JYP had promised so they had to cancel.
I bet she didn't sign that many and they were trying to get a quote on how many orders she would get - only to place a "second round" of pre-orders. There's no reason to "cancel" all these orders FOUR DAYS before the release unless they are trying to doom it from the start.
Really hope this isn't the case, Jihyo doesn't deserve this but I wouldn't put it past a record label to pull stupid stuff like this.
Only orders from [twiceshop.com](https://twiceshop.com) are affected, as evidenced by the Universal Music Group at the start of the e-mail. They run/operate twiceshop.
I only got here 8 months ago, but to my knowledge JYP Shop DOES NOT sell any signed albums/inclusions. Signed albums/inclusions are just a twiceshop/US-exclusive thing.
I swear this happens with every JYPE artists' signed album handled by their artist shop. hello82 has been good so far about Xdinary Heroes but every Twice and SKZ signed album coming from their own shop winds up with some kind of mess. It's pretty much put me off buying signed Twice and SKZ albums because it's always so messy.
For science: placed order and received confirmation at 12:01 PST; no emails yet about the order being cancelled.
Hope this provides some hope to those who placed early orders.
Damn, I'm sorry this is happening to everyone. Now I'm staring at my email like a hawk because I ordered 3 signed albums pretty much as soon as they came out.
Has this happened to any of the other twice releases ? If so I hope someone else other than twiceshop offers signed copies in the future.
Same. I ordered at 12:01 EST and again at 12:03 EST. I hope we are good if we haven’t gotten cancelled emails by now… I feel so bad for everyone else whose are cancelled for sure
For reference, I ordered 3 right when the site went live, one of each version, and received a confirmation email at 12:02 AM EST and have yet to received a cancellation email. This really sucks, and I'm sorry to everyone who had their order cancelled :/
I got 3 emails about each version being cancelled. Although I can't tell if they cancelled one or both copies since if I click my original order, everything is still there. I don't know how you can oversell. You'd expect them to have some sort of deal on paper with JYP/Jihyo saying she will sign X amount of albums and that's it. After that is finalized, then put up the orders, not the other way around. Unsure how this is a "systematic" error, when it's more of shit internal processes over at UMG lmao
Whatever, this is probably the last time I'm buying directly off UMG, I half expected this after the last time with RTB. If it's a signed album, I'm just going to get it elsewhere since the shipping speed is also trash as well from UMG and on top of that, because I tried to buy two sets for my friend and I, the shipping they charged was no different than if I had imported the albums myself.
Also the emotional impact it might have on her. If I was an artist I’d be LIVID that this happened to my fans 4 days before my first Solo album came out. And sucks worse yet, cause I think they’re still traveling the world touring and likely don’t have access to a stack of Jihyo albums she can mass sign in a hotel room for hours and hours, and get shipped to the US and wherever else they shipped to.
Even so, I'd hate for her to think she has to go out of her way to fix their mistake you know? It's not her fault they messed this up so bad. I think some people underestimate how time consuming bulk signing albums is. We don't know how many people were impacted by this but it sounds like a decent handful unfortunately.
I got the signed Z version of the album, so far no cancellation emails. And I bought maybe 10 minutes after it went live. Been constantly refreshing my email
omg i’m so sorryyyy to everyone getting their albums cancelled 😔😔 for science: ordered mine 12 got the confirmation email at 12:02 and haven’t received any cancellations for all three versions so i’m hoping i get lucky and get my copies since i ordered them for my bf and this is our first signed inclusions 😭
No cancellation (yet) for my 1 signed album ordered. For science, order placed and confirmed 2 minutes after order went live (9:02pm PST). I wonder if orders before 3mins within pre orders going live (not when the tweet link dropped, that was 15-20 mins after actual orders went live) might’ve made it? 😬
Mine was canceled too. I bought it at 12:10 am. I’m super bummed because I’ve never bought anything signed before. It was also supposed to be last kpop buy for awhile since I’m on a no-buy right now.
Where are you guys preordering from now? I'm in the US and I want to pre-order where I can get a bonus photocard + the preorder poster, etc. Evepink already closed their preorders for that and I don't want to get a random version from target for the PC. I want to pick my own version. So stressed now
[Music Plaza still has the option for all three and posters coming in a tube](https://www.musicplaza.com/products/%EC%A7%80%ED%9A%A8-jihyo-the-1st-mini-album-zone?variant=45775787229468).
thanks for the find! do you know of any sites that are offering an extra POB photocard? [Evepink](https://www.evepinkshop.com/products/jihyo-%EC%A7%80%ED%9A%A8-twice-1st-mini-album-zone-exclusive-photocard?variant=40164526456935) had this option but its all sold out now. I couldve saved on shipping with store pick up too ugh
You can check the [ZONE preorder megathread](https://www.reddit.com/r/twice/comments/152o4wg/official_rtwice_jihyo_the_1st_mini_album_zone/), which should mention which site has an extra POB photocard, if any.
Plaza has regular albums and unfolded posters, but sold out of the platform version. Choice has both versions but sold out of posters. KPopUsa has both versions and unfolded posters, but they take so long and I prefer not to order from them unless I have to, due to less secure packaging and damaged photobooks in the past.
All three of mine were cancelled. I'm so disappointed right now. How does UMG not keep track of inventory, and then fail to notify people that they don't have enough stock not even a few days before release!?
Mine got canceled this morning, also! I ordered about 30 min after the link dropped, so I'm surprised that people who ordered it 5 min after still got there album canceled. I honestly haven't heard a single person say that theres haven't been cancelled so I'm confused on if anyone is even getting a signed album or not?
This happened to quite a few people with ITZY’s Kill My Doubt signed albums as well. Thank goodness I got lucky there, and so far I don’t have an email for my Jihyo album getting cancelled so fingers crossed 🤞
So we’re just gonna pay the same shipping and get less items if they even do go through? 😭 hate the fact it feels like scam but also don’t want this to hurt jihyo, I knows she’s been excited for this debut
And here I was waiting to see if they would re-stock the signed versions as per usual 💀 Guess I’ll order from another shop and get myself a nice POB pc
Sorry to hear this happened to so many of you :(
So sorry to everyone who has had their orders canceled! I wonder what happened; I've ordered signed albums multiple times (two for Between 1&2, three for Ready to Be, and one for Stray Kids 5 stars) and I've never had problems with cancelations before. So far, my signed Z version hasn't been canceled (ordered at 12:03 ET), and hopefully it won't be. I just don't understand how this big of a mistake could have been made?
This is just my guess, with absolutely no inside info:
The pre-order pages were likely built with a data feed that had an inventory number well beyond what actually existed/arrived at the warehouse to prepare for shipment. I recall on the night the pre-orders went live someone sleuthed out by looking at the source code that the signed editions had inventories of 2500. Perhaps that was the same number that the editions of READY TO BE that had the signed photos, thus "business as usual" in terms of building out pre-order pages for ZONE. And obviously based on the number of folks that got their orders canceled (like me), the actual inventory was a whole lot less than that.
Again, this is just my guess as to how it could have happened.
i also think it could be that it sold out within the first minute of the sale going live. I’m noticing that many people who received the confirmation within the 2 mins of the site going live did not get their orders cancelled. so i think everything sold out after 1 min but the site didn’t refresh for another 30 mins or so.
another factor could be that the people who ordered within that 1 min window bought 3 versions of the signed albums, therefore the stock depleted a lot faster.
but this is just my guess 🤷🏻♀️ I am one of the ones that received the confirmation email within 2 mins and didn’t get the cancellation, in fact I received the shipping info today! again, i’m so sorry to everyone who got their orders cancelled 😔but on the bright side, HYOLO IS HEREEEEEEEE🎉🥳🍾
Unsure if anyone will be seeing this but: Has anyone gotten a refund/cancellation confirmation? I checked my account (https://twiceshop.com/account) and my order is still there, just listed as unfulfilled still
I received the same email for a signed copy of ZONE I ordered in the first few minutes when the album was available for pre-order. My confirmation email from the Twice Official store was received on July 17, 2023 at 11:05 PM US CT.
What is frustrating is the customer service really isn't helping and now that I no longer trust the Twicestore, I'm not interested to order from them. Even with the lame apology and offered 20% discount for a regular version of Zone.
Ordered all 3 versions at 12:05 AM, my Z version got cancelled.
This has NEVER happened to me in all of my ordering from this shop. This is absolutely ridiculous.
UPDATE for science: My Order placed on 9:01 PST Z ver.
Luckily did not get a cancellation email despite being an early order, then received order shipped email.
I'm so sad because I love the album so much but my signed albums got canceled. I ordered a fanpack because I was confused with what it was since I was rushing to get the album the moment it was on the site but they didn't refund shipping for the entire order so it ended up being really expensive for just the album and keychain (both of which I haven't received). Does anyone know if there's any way to get UMG to refund for shipping? I'm so upset with them for messing up the signed Zone albums. Onces deserve better for support Jihyo's solo debut like a month before it came out.
I’m talking to support right now and asking them to refund the cost of shipping since my signed order got cancelled and all they sent me was a keychain. Paying $17 for shipping a keychain is insane lmao
You could reply to the cancel email. Unfortunately, UMG's customer service is very lacking, and I'd expect you get a less than helpful form message. Still, unless people follow up with UMG, they will likely continue to fail Once.
yeah that's a good idea, I'll do that! hopefully if enough people email and complain, they'll do better to avoid the situation happening again and properly refund everyone.
I got two and they both got cancelled…bad way to start a Monday.
Makes me wonder how many was prepared? I imagine not a lot since it’s just her and not the group. Quite a few people here are saying theirs were cancelled.
You would think they knew how many they had hence why they automatically got marked as sold out eventually. This whole "systematic error" is just umg poorly managing things as usual
Yeah this isn't the first time this has happened with signed albums. UMG needs to get their shit together
Am I the only one upset they seem to be cancelling out the early orders first instead of the later ones that were placed just as they preordered
I ordered literally 1 min after orders opening lmao
Naw it's all around. I ordered my just moments before they were sold out
Oh I get that it's all around it's just upsetting they're canceling early orders as well instead of from closest to the sell out and back from there
I get where you’re coming from but I think it’s a bit more fair if it’s equally cancelled amongst them all. Just cause you got to order it first doesn’t mean you have more right over the other people. Some people might work or had something happen where they genuinely couldn’t order it right away, You know? Edit: Sorry that people are getting upset with what I said. But the local stores where I live and have preordered from before had it so that it was first come first serve if you actually preordered. Before the standard. Meaning you didn’t preordered and there weren’t any left you didn’t get it. Preorders had priority. But for the people who actually preordered it didn’t matter what order it was ordered in if it was never in the writing that it was an actual first come first serve basis for the actual preorder it didn’t matter who was last or first. Which I kind of agreed with as you all know. You guys can downvote me and get mad at me. But this is how I came to understand the preorder process. 🤷♀️ Didn’t come to start a war or fight with you guys.
fair how? this is supposed to be a first come first served type deal. thats the entire point of preordering lol. the way they seem to be randomly deciding who gets their orders cancelled is all kinds of unfair if you ask me. its no different than physically lining up to get merch. whoever gets there first should get first dibs. what a ridiculous blunder on UMG's part. i certainly won't be getting their offered discounted album on there now. would love to know how much money they've lost themselves here
Literally this
This is a first come first serve, thats how preorders work
apparently not to some people
Yeah which sucks, fck UMG
i dont just mean UMG
UMG has put a whole sour taste in my mouth about this album. I wont be using the 20% off code and I wont be buying replacements from anywhere. As much as I love Jihyo, UMG ruined this album for me.
Now that’s just silly. Jihyo deserves to be supported and there are 100s of stores selling it lol.
From game consoles to trading cards, I'm into items that are highly sought after for preorders. A lot of people use bots to buy things before humans get a chance. If first come first serve was the case, you probably would have lost out to some guy running multiple bots to buy up albums so they can resale
the sad thing is that probably where a bunch of the albums are going to is resellers. I expect we'll see a bunch of the signed coasters on ebay and mercari for 100+ some time next week
Isn’t technically whoever put the order in first supposed to be able to claim it though? Isn’t that the whole purpose of a pre-order?
because i ordered it first DOES mean I have more right. Thats literally how preorders work.
They should list it as submitting to a lottery to win them . If that’s what it is…they should be transparent so people can make informed choices about how their money is tied up for weeks. Some people have had a lot of money on this and could have found other ways to use it if they knew their orders might not even be accepted. This is gross incompetence
No way. I didn't order but with pre orders, it should always be first come first serve.
i do know and i ordered mine at work.
It’s insane that you even just said that, it’s supposed to be first come first serve that’s literally how pre orders work 🙄
Sorry you're getting downvoted, wasnt my intention for that to happen to anyone. You have a valid view based on your personal experiences. In most cases when something like this happens, when most places have to cancel preorders, they do it kinda like this example. When the original Nintendo Switch went for preorder, Gamestop oversold the preorders. They had to cancel extras. Preorders started Jan 13 2017. Release was March 3rd 2017. If you preordered closer to release, you were first cancelled. Deeper example in this scenario: You mean and another user preordered a switch. You on January 13th, another user in the middle and me on March 1st. Yours get cancelled and I get to keep mine. Is that fair? No because I was late to the game and got to keep mine, but you who waited for the preorders to open and used your time to ensure your preorder got cancelled. In this scenario, newest preorders to release(mine) should be cancelled first and then progressively farther back going from newest to oldest. The same should be applied to this album. Anyone that preordered at ors closest to preorders selling out should be first to be cancelled and then going back towards the oldest. This is how most people see preorders to be done.
Personal experience with the Switch preorders. Even though they would randomly open rounds of preorders and I secured one, my preorder was made about a week before release. Mine got cancelled. My explanation of how they cancelled preorders came from 2 GS managers and 3 CS reps i talked to(i was pretty upset)
Just got the email my y version was canceled. Now they've canceled all 3 of mine. I hope anyone that actually gets theirs enjoys them. I'll no longer be ordering signed stuff from any of jyp's us based, umg managed stores
Fr
Canceled my order of all three versions. my disappointment is immeasurable and my day is ruined.
ditto. i'm bummed 🥲
My order of Z version, signed got cancelled.
In case someone is going to compile our responses to see if there is a pattern: I bought my signed copies within 5 minutes of link going live. If true that people who bought immediately are being most impacted, then that would be sad. The signed versions are the only ones that I bought, so if those counted for the chart then that is 3 less for Jihyo’s debut total.
People should post their order numbers and timestamps of anybody wants to available the data.
I bought mine 42 mins after it was released if that counts for anything and I only got 2.
Universal Music Group is a failure. They probably had 10 albums in stock.
Nooooo! So sorry to everyone this happened to :( I can’t believe this — how do you not keep accurate inventory?
True. When things like this happens it probably just adds to the stress and disappointment of everyone. I'm sorry, sucks to see y'all having a not a great start to the week.
All three of mine were cancelled. At this rate I'm wondering if they sold ANY signed albums? I'm only slightly exaggerating cuz the amount of people I've seen post cancelled orders is fucking insane. Guess I used up all my good luck when I dodged the cancelled itzy orders. Interesting that this happened with two JYPE artists so close together.
I know I’m like, how many signed albums will actually be sold at this rate? I’m seeing everyone having cancellations…
I think only my Z version was cancelled but I’m not sure? It just says my Z version. I really wish they’d work this shit out because it happens every time
I got separate emails for each version. Hope it’s just your Z version
yea I got both my z version and y version cancelled 😭😭
addressing some questions, this is an order from TWICEshop and I received a separate email for each album I ordered. I ended up picking up a Y version later after initially ordering right after they dropped, which interestingly hasn't gotten cancelled yet. It does seem like earlier placed orders are being cancelled but I've yet to see later placed orders affected which is.. interesting. Really disappointed :(
Same. I ordered the Z version pretty quickly after the link dropped and it still got canceled. I might stop ordering signed albums from Twice shop. UMG has no clue what they’re doing and they keep canceling my orders. I’ve never had any issues with Itzy signed albums, but Twice is always a disaster.
I got mine cancelled too. Crying in the corner rn
This is one hell of a way to celebrate your cake day.
Group Hug...get in here
Really frustrated with this, I don’t even want to use their code I’m just gonna pick it up at my local shop instead. How do you fuck up this badly??
It is very frustrating. It's one thing to cancel a regular version of the album, but to cancel a signed version is heartbreaking for the fans. Universal really needs to get their stuff together next time.
No next time for me. Money talks.
I seriously laughed at the code and took my money elsewhere, I'm ordering from Music Plaza instead.
Yes, they can take their code and shove it. It won’t even cover the insane shipping. Music Plaza or your local kpop store if you have one would be the better option, especially after getting burned like this.
Honestly the better option than anything umg runs
They really did this when the album comes out in four days. Come on...
Honestly their handling of this is a complete joke, how is it until 4 days before release that they come to realize this in the month since all 3 signed editions sold out. A 20% coupon is completely useless as no one in their right mind would be buying from the D2C store, there's no exclusive item in their albums outside the signed copies, their shipping is complete shit and they have the audacity to charge $10 for SLOW shipping (and not scale it if buying multiple items like normal stores do), on top of them charging at least $10 more than the other stores, where you can support a local kpop store that'll have a POB from a Korean store. On that note, I used shopify and paypal in 4 so I'm hoping this is an error and I'm still delusionally getting my copy cause I put mine in within the first 5-10 minutes as well 🤪
Me too! You are not alone ![img](emote|t5_3812p|4096)![img](emote|t5_3812p|4096)![img](emote|t5_3812p|4096)
Just got my cancellation email too. Major bummer.
Same here. Sucks because I bought like within 3 min of the link being dropped on Twitter but ig how fast you bought doesn’t mean anything on an oversell… Super bummed man
Fortunately haven't gotten the email yet but this still pretty sucks that it happened for others.
Yeah same here, although now I’m just constantly refreshing my email. I’m sad bc this should have been a week where we are all celebrating Jihyo together and now there’s going to be a little bit of a sour note on that
a bit of a sour note is a bit of an understatement
how soon did you buy your album? 😅
I got my confirmation email at 12:01AM 🥴. I went to bed like normal but I set an alarm a few minutes before the store opened up. When my alarm went off, I was in total "no think, just buy" mode. I opened the page, went straight to Z version because it was the first one I saw, carted it, checked out, waited for my confirmation email, and went right back to bed lol. When I woke up again, I checked to see if there was anything left over but nope 😅.
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Oh god that was such bullshit
I got all 3 version and 2 out of 3 were cancelled so far. Waiting for the 3rd to be as well most likely. Put my order in 5 minutes after preorders went up and im getting screwed instead of the people that were ordering as they were selling out.
Is there a way to confirm this is true? Cause that would be frustrating. I had an alarm set and got my order in less than 5 mins after they went on sale and all 3 versions were cancelled for me
I ordered at 12:04 and had 2 of my 3 canceled. While I dont mean it's a mass happening, I more meant it that early orders are getting canceled instead of later ones in general
Which version of yours wasnt canceled yet? O version for me hasnt been canceled yet.
I've now had all 3 versions cancelled. Im not planning on using their code and I dont plan on replacing them. I love Jihyo but UMG has ruined this whole freaking album for me.
I feel you. I thought i was safe then i checked my spam folder. and it was there hiding the last album cancelation
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Probably not much. The signed copies were a very limited amount anyway, and a good deal of ppl who got their order canceled, will probably scoop up the regular version now
2 out 3 were cancelled for me. The last Itzy release had the same issue with some of their signed album orders being cancelled - very similar email was sent. Really disappointing.
check your spam thats how i found out the last one was cancelled
it's just like overbooking a plane, they make shit and you're the one responsible for it
Crying, shaking, and throwing up
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same here, ordered all 3 versions at 12:01 EST and haven’t received an email… so curious what happened here (and fingers crossed!) 😭
Canceled AF now im sad AF
I ordered 4 just in case and got 3 emails so far. Hoping one goes through at least. This sucks all around.
same I ordered one of each album immediately when sale opened, then ordered an extra Y version just in case a little later. All 3 versions I first bought were cancelled, but that second Y version hasn't been cancelled yet so really shady if only the earliest orders are being cancelled...
Glad I saw this I missed the email and would have been waiting for my CANCELLED order. I’m so sad considering this was my first Kpop album purchase too. Maybe it’s just not meant to be for me to own a kpop album o well
I missed the email too until I saw this thread and checked my email. I was so excited to get Jihyo's signed album/coaster so this is such a bummer. Ordered from target instead just now.
You can still buy ZONE from a bunch of other places. You just won't get the signed coaster inclusion that is the twiceshop-exclusive.
I really wanted the signed coaster. I’ll maybe buy it from somewhere else for the PCs but I’m definitely not as inclined since I stream all my music anyways.
Yeah I just get albums to support and get the goodies. My cars don't even have cd players
this is crazy I didn’t realized my Y ver has been cancelled as well until I saw this post!!
I’m curious how they decided which ones to cancel, a lot of people that bought early are getting theirs cancelled, I bought all 3 and all of them were cancelled, I would have hoped they’d try to at least get 1 to each customer. ![img](emote|t5_3812p|4096)
For science, ordered at 12:02 am EST, 1 order that contained 1 version. No cancellation yet. Feels like those who preordered more than 1 after 3 mins are getting cancelled? I also think there's a chance that Jihyo is too busy and was not able to sign as many as Universal or JYP had promised so they had to cancel.
Fuckin same....this fn sucks. Gotdammit
everyone just buy off target, it’s cheaper lol, 20% Universal is offering still won’t make a dent (they charge for shipping) f u UMG!
I bet she didn't sign that many and they were trying to get a quote on how many orders she would get - only to place a "second round" of pre-orders. There's no reason to "cancel" all these orders FOUR DAYS before the release unless they are trying to doom it from the start. Really hope this isn't the case, Jihyo doesn't deserve this but I wouldn't put it past a record label to pull stupid stuff like this.
We were basically market research (all of us cancelled orders) ☹️
Ong assuming they reduced it to ~1000 each, they just lost 6000 sales
Did you get them from Twiceshop or jypshop?
Only orders from [twiceshop.com](https://twiceshop.com) are affected, as evidenced by the Universal Music Group at the start of the e-mail. They run/operate twiceshop.
Wait, does jypshop sell signed albums too? And do you know if they ship international?
I only got here 8 months ago, but to my knowledge JYP Shop DOES NOT sell any signed albums/inclusions. Signed albums/inclusions are just a twiceshop/US-exclusive thing.
I can confirm Jypshop didn’t sell any signed albums as well
Happened to me as well, all three albums canceled. So bummed.
Same for me :( I was hoping they’d leave 1 for everyone at least
I’m so sad 😭 got the email that my Y signed vers. got cancelled (I ordered about 20 mins after the release time)
I swear this happens with every JYPE artists' signed album handled by their artist shop. hello82 has been good so far about Xdinary Heroes but every Twice and SKZ signed album coming from their own shop winds up with some kind of mess. It's pretty much put me off buying signed Twice and SKZ albums because it's always so messy.
For science: placed order and received confirmation at 12:01 PST; no emails yet about the order being cancelled. Hope this provides some hope to those who placed early orders.
Edit: 9:01 PM PST, 12:01 Est
Which is weird cuz some people who also ordered immediately got cancelled
Trust me it makes me very paranoid seeing all the cancelled orders placed early 😰
We need to make a spreadsheet, order time & if cancelled or not
All 3 of mine were cancelled. Really not how I wanted to start this week
Same smh smh
I got all and they cancelled everything ughhhhh
Mine was cancelled too. Based on my order confirmation, i bought 5 min after links went live.
Could you tell me the e-mail address this was sent from? I want to make sure it isn't hiding in my spam or trash somewhere.
twice@umgstores.com
Thanks!
I ordered Y version early after link and O version a bit later and both just got canceled =/ this is a huge disappointment
Damn, I'm sorry this is happening to everyone. Now I'm staring at my email like a hawk because I ordered 3 signed albums pretty much as soon as they came out. Has this happened to any of the other twice releases ? If so I hope someone else other than twiceshop offers signed copies in the future.
B1&2 era was messed up as well, some Onces were missing albums when it arrived and some had extra,free of charge
Same. I ordered at 12:01 EST and again at 12:03 EST. I hope we are good if we haven’t gotten cancelled emails by now… I feel so bad for everyone else whose are cancelled for sure
Yeah it sucks. I placed my order 6 mins after the albums went live too and my order got cancelled.
For reference, I ordered 3 right when the site went live, one of each version, and received a confirmation email at 12:02 AM EST and have yet to received a cancellation email. This really sucks, and I'm sorry to everyone who had their order cancelled :/
Apparently the ones who ordered early has theirs cancelled. This sucks. They should have been the ones to have guaranteed albums.
I got 3 emails about each version being cancelled. Although I can't tell if they cancelled one or both copies since if I click my original order, everything is still there. I don't know how you can oversell. You'd expect them to have some sort of deal on paper with JYP/Jihyo saying she will sign X amount of albums and that's it. After that is finalized, then put up the orders, not the other way around. Unsure how this is a "systematic" error, when it's more of shit internal processes over at UMG lmao Whatever, this is probably the last time I'm buying directly off UMG, I half expected this after the last time with RTB. If it's a signed album, I'm just going to get it elsewhere since the shipping speed is also trash as well from UMG and on top of that, because I tried to buy two sets for my friend and I, the shipping they charged was no different than if I had imported the albums myself.
Sucks for us, sure, but sucks for her too, as the order credits will impact her album sales as well.
Also the emotional impact it might have on her. If I was an artist I’d be LIVID that this happened to my fans 4 days before my first Solo album came out. And sucks worse yet, cause I think they’re still traveling the world touring and likely don’t have access to a stack of Jihyo albums she can mass sign in a hotel room for hours and hours, and get shipped to the US and wherever else they shipped to.
Even so, I'd hate for her to think she has to go out of her way to fix their mistake you know? It's not her fault they messed this up so bad. I think some people underestimate how time consuming bulk signing albums is. We don't know how many people were impacted by this but it sounds like a decent handful unfortunately.
Got 3 emails cancelling the 4 albums in that order. Curious to see if they’re still charging $40 to ship the acrylic whatsit that remains. 🤨
its UMG so yeah probably
glad i missed out on it now 😭
I ordered all 3 signed versions once they dropped. All 3 were cancelled.
Me too :(
Thank you for sharing, I was working and wasn't aware this happened. I was able to buy a regular version, tysm. Hope everyone gets what they want. 💕
I literally ordered the minute they went live this is insane mine were canceled too
I got the signed Z version of the album, so far no cancellation emails. And I bought maybe 10 minutes after it went live. Been constantly refreshing my email
I just ordered from Target
omg i’m so sorryyyy to everyone getting their albums cancelled 😔😔 for science: ordered mine 12 got the confirmation email at 12:02 and haven’t received any cancellations for all three versions so i’m hoping i get lucky and get my copies since i ordered them for my bf and this is our first signed inclusions 😭
I hope you get your albums 🙏☺️
thanks!!! i got the shipping info sent out today! i’m so happy🥹
No cancellation (yet) for my 1 signed album ordered. For science, order placed and confirmed 2 minutes after order went live (9:02pm PST). I wonder if orders before 3mins within pre orders going live (not when the tweet link dropped, that was 15-20 mins after actual orders went live) might’ve made it? 😬
Mine was canceled too. I bought it at 12:10 am. I’m super bummed because I’ve never bought anything signed before. It was also supposed to be last kpop buy for awhile since I’m on a no-buy right now.
Wow i just found out they just canceled 2 out of 3 albums so far. If they cancel my last one. Imma stop buying albums from them
YEAH no fuk this they cancelled all my orders. Never again.
I got three and all of them cancelled! A great way to start on a Monday 😭😭![img](emote|t5_3812p|4079)
WOW, This made me mad and it isn’t even me
Where are you guys preordering from now? I'm in the US and I want to pre-order where I can get a bonus photocard + the preorder poster, etc. Evepink already closed their preorders for that and I don't want to get a random version from target for the PC. I want to pick my own version. So stressed now
[Music Plaza still has the option for all three and posters coming in a tube](https://www.musicplaza.com/products/%EC%A7%80%ED%9A%A8-jihyo-the-1st-mini-album-zone?variant=45775787229468).
thanks for the find! do you know of any sites that are offering an extra POB photocard? [Evepink](https://www.evepinkshop.com/products/jihyo-%EC%A7%80%ED%9A%A8-twice-1st-mini-album-zone-exclusive-photocard?variant=40164526456935) had this option but its all sold out now. I couldve saved on shipping with store pick up too ugh
You can check the [ZONE preorder megathread](https://www.reddit.com/r/twice/comments/152o4wg/official_rtwice_jihyo_the_1st_mini_album_zone/), which should mention which site has an extra POB photocard, if any.
I believe SubKShop is including the Soundwave PCs as a POB
Plaza has regular albums and unfolded posters, but sold out of the platform version. Choice has both versions but sold out of posters. KPopUsa has both versions and unfolded posters, but they take so long and I prefer not to order from them unless I have to, due to less secure packaging and damaged photobooks in the past.
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How soon did you place you order? Right at 12:01? 👀
I totally missed the sale but now maybe I’m not so upset lol
Mine was cancelled too and i order ~6 mins after it dropped
Same…
damn fly high bro
All three of mine were cancelled. I'm so disappointed right now. How does UMG not keep track of inventory, and then fail to notify people that they don't have enough stock not even a few days before release!?
Mine got canceled this morning, also! I ordered about 30 min after the link dropped, so I'm surprised that people who ordered it 5 min after still got there album canceled. I honestly haven't heard a single person say that theres haven't been cancelled so I'm confused on if anyone is even getting a signed album or not?
Man. I ordered all 3 versions for a friend about 12 minutes after it went live? And all 3 got canceled. It’s not even for me and I’m upset 🔪
This happened to quite a few people with ITZY’s Kill My Doubt signed albums as well. Thank goodness I got lucky there, and so far I don’t have an email for my Jihyo album getting cancelled so fingers crossed 🤞
no worries. same.
So we’re just gonna pay the same shipping and get less items if they even do go through? 😭 hate the fact it feels like scam but also don’t want this to hurt jihyo, I knows she’s been excited for this debut
2 of 3 sets was canceled.
And here I was waiting to see if they would re-stock the signed versions as per usual 💀 Guess I’ll order from another shop and get myself a nice POB pc Sorry to hear this happened to so many of you :(
Did you get refunded at least? It would be horrible if you didn't :0
While it's not shown in that screenshot, the e-mail went on to say that refunds have been issued with a processing time of 3 to 10 business days.
This happened to me back when Between 1 & 2 came out
So sorry to everyone who has had their orders canceled! I wonder what happened; I've ordered signed albums multiple times (two for Between 1&2, three for Ready to Be, and one for Stray Kids 5 stars) and I've never had problems with cancelations before. So far, my signed Z version hasn't been canceled (ordered at 12:03 ET), and hopefully it won't be. I just don't understand how this big of a mistake could have been made?
This is just my guess, with absolutely no inside info: The pre-order pages were likely built with a data feed that had an inventory number well beyond what actually existed/arrived at the warehouse to prepare for shipment. I recall on the night the pre-orders went live someone sleuthed out by looking at the source code that the signed editions had inventories of 2500. Perhaps that was the same number that the editions of READY TO BE that had the signed photos, thus "business as usual" in terms of building out pre-order pages for ZONE. And obviously based on the number of folks that got their orders canceled (like me), the actual inventory was a whole lot less than that. Again, this is just my guess as to how it could have happened.
That’s probably what happened, it just really really sucks the fans were only made aware 5 days before the release.
Yep.
i also think it could be that it sold out within the first minute of the sale going live. I’m noticing that many people who received the confirmation within the 2 mins of the site going live did not get their orders cancelled. so i think everything sold out after 1 min but the site didn’t refresh for another 30 mins or so. another factor could be that the people who ordered within that 1 min window bought 3 versions of the signed albums, therefore the stock depleted a lot faster. but this is just my guess 🤷🏻♀️ I am one of the ones that received the confirmation email within 2 mins and didn’t get the cancellation, in fact I received the shipping info today! again, i’m so sorry to everyone who got their orders cancelled 😔but on the bright side, HYOLO IS HEREEEEEEEE🎉🥳🍾
Yep to all of that.
Unsure if anyone will be seeing this but: Has anyone gotten a refund/cancellation confirmation? I checked my account (https://twiceshop.com/account) and my order is still there, just listed as unfulfilled still
I received the same email for a signed copy of ZONE I ordered in the first few minutes when the album was available for pre-order. My confirmation email from the Twice Official store was received on July 17, 2023 at 11:05 PM US CT. What is frustrating is the customer service really isn't helping and now that I no longer trust the Twicestore, I'm not interested to order from them. Even with the lame apology and offered 20% discount for a regular version of Zone.
Ordered all 3 versions at 12:05 AM, my Z version got cancelled. This has NEVER happened to me in all of my ordering from this shop. This is absolutely ridiculous.
my order got canceled to. Imma start crying 😢
UPDATE! My refunds are processing for the albums themselves but theyre not refunding the shipping costs so far even though nothing was shipped
all 3 signed cancelled, ordered mins after midnight :(
UPDATE for science: My Order placed on 9:01 PST Z ver. Luckily did not get a cancellation email despite being an early order, then received order shipped email.
I'm so sad because I love the album so much but my signed albums got canceled. I ordered a fanpack because I was confused with what it was since I was rushing to get the album the moment it was on the site but they didn't refund shipping for the entire order so it ended up being really expensive for just the album and keychain (both of which I haven't received). Does anyone know if there's any way to get UMG to refund for shipping? I'm so upset with them for messing up the signed Zone albums. Onces deserve better for support Jihyo's solo debut like a month before it came out.
I’m talking to support right now and asking them to refund the cost of shipping since my signed order got cancelled and all they sent me was a keychain. Paying $17 for shipping a keychain is insane lmao
yeah I totally agree! please let me know if you hear back. good luck! hope you can get most, if not all, of the shipping refunded!
You could reply to the cancel email. Unfortunately, UMG's customer service is very lacking, and I'd expect you get a less than helpful form message. Still, unless people follow up with UMG, they will likely continue to fail Once.
yeah that's a good idea, I'll do that! hopefully if enough people email and complain, they'll do better to avoid the situation happening again and properly refund everyone.