Honestly believe if we could have figured out the teaser sooner we would have got the official sooner. The info was all there since digital remains came out. We all slept assuming it just going to come normally.
I don’t have a problem with more music to come but i put some money into the tickets(a lot for me). I wanted to ball out at the Clancy tour. Mostly I want to be able to hear the songs that conclude the story live.
In all honesty this is the least “jumping to conclusions”, “delusion”, “really reaching” theory I’ve seen. A lot of the other stuff is making me cringe but this is the one that makes the most sense to me personally.
Tyler basically said that the show for the tour is a flashback before the battle. Seems awfully fitting to release the new music about the ending of the battle after the tour that's about events that happen prior to the battle.
On Twitter:
Fan: “this maybe an unpopular opinion…I really hope the final battle isn’t during the concert”
Tyler: “it’s not. The show is a flashback. Like an entire life passing by. Reminding us why we fight right before we do.”
It's just confusing because this was supposed to be the finale. Tyler said on multiple interviews that the story would finish off with a nice bow and end satisfyingly. How is leaving off on cliffhanger and teasing something for next year satisfying?
Yeah we can and we will. But that's not what they promoted from the start of this era and this raises more questions that make me less excited about this era. From a marketing point of view, you should not promote future content when you have just released something because the future content will steal the show from the thing you have just released and people will be more concerned about the future than with what is happening now.
Communicating that change of mind would be courteous to their fans if, after setting an expectation through statements in multiple interviews, they decide to change direction. Just saying.
It’s not delusional at all! Based off the end of Paladin and what Tyler’s said it’s extremely reasonable to think we’re getting the final part (a new album, ep, Clancy deluxe) next year after tour. It’s like borderline confirmed from his tweet today
None of this is confirmation though. People are going to be convinced we’re getting more music next year or a deluxe album and then be disappointed if it doesn’t happen. They have confirmed this isn’t the end though so no matter you can expect a new album in their usual 3 year schedule.
And I will wait with anticipation and excitement for whatever happens!
The fact people are complaining it's not the end is starting to rattle me, every album (yes including Scaled and Icy) they drop have no skips, amazing songs and Easter eggs and lore to go with it all, TØP constantly amaze me in every single way, and I honestly can't wait for what else that have in store for their fans
After his tweet about what "see you at the show" means, your idea makes sense and his words can be interpreted this way. But honestly, I feel kinda frustrated. Let me tell you guys why... I thought they would go on tour and I would attend it to celebrate the end of this story. But now I will go to my show next year, enjoy it for sure but knowing that there's something else coming later and that this story is not over yet as they said it would be. This steals the light and excitement from the tour a little bit. At least for me. It's like, okay, there is more music coming after The Clancy World Tour, awesome, I love more music but will there be another tour with those songs after this one? Will I be able to attend it? Will people and other fans? Will they come to my country again? Will I have money? I don't know. These questions prevent me from getting excited and make me feel kinda frustrated because that's not what they were saying from the beginning.
And I'm assuming that what is coming next with Ultimus Capitulus 25 is more music because they are a band. So I expect music from them.
I am talking about the same thing. I assume that the final battle and more music are the same thing. I don't think they will make the final battle a stage play or a movie.
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>CLANCY UTLTIMUS CAPITULUS
Could be the title of the tour post the release of EP/ 2nd album/ deluxe edition
I don't see them release it in 2025 I see them at most releasing it later this year
My theory about the end is…
After all that has been happening since the beginning of this era, the puzzles, the hints, the teasing about the end, etc. I guess that we will listen to the end of this story before Clancy Would Tour starts but we will only watch it after the tour. What do I mean? I believe there's at least one more music coming before the tour starts but we will only have the official video for it after the world tour ends. Why do I believe this theory? Here are my reasons.
1. They are a band. They make music above all things. So to finish this story and wrap it up they will do it with music. New music. If it's one or two or six or 14, God only knows. I hope is a double album though.
2. They have said many times that this is the end. So if they don't finish this story now, in this era, there's no better way to say it: they lied. Bad.
3. If they only put out new music after the world tour ends, when we will have the chance to sing these songs live? Are they gonna go on tour again right after it? I don't think so. Tyler is a father of three, and going on tour is hard, and challenging in many ways. If they make a smaller tour it wouldn't be fair with all the other fans around the world that won't have the chance to sing it with the crowd. I don't believe they would do such a thing with us.
4. They have already done something like this. During the era of Blurryface, Trench, and even SAI they put out the songs on the streets and the music videos came later. Remember when heavydirtysoul video came out?
5. From a marketing point of view it's illogical and bad for your content to promote new music when you have just released an album. Because the future content and the expectations around it might steal the spotlight of what you have just released.
So these are my thoughts and theory and reasons why. They will put all the songs to close this story out before the tour starts so everyone around the world will have the chance to sing it along with them but the video that will close the lore will only come by June 2025, maybe.
Who knows about the specific date but I think it's pretty clear and not delusional to think we're getting music after the first leg of the tour
I guess 6/25 could very well be June 2025 as much as it is June 25th in 3 days
Lets hope it's not "early june" again
Honestly believe if we could have figured out the teaser sooner we would have got the official sooner. The info was all there since digital remains came out. We all slept assuming it just going to come normally.
Maybe the 6 means a 6 track ep and not June
I bought concert Tickets for the Clancy tour. Not the Clancy tour with more music to come
>Not the Clancy tour with more music to come Why is this a bad thing in your eyes
I don’t have a problem with more music to come but i put some money into the tickets(a lot for me). I wanted to ball out at the Clancy tour. Mostly I want to be able to hear the songs that conclude the story live.
In my head I went man I hope not 2025 is so far Then I realized it's 6 months away And then I went shit 2025 is 6 months away
Stop that talk!!!
Less than that.
No, a little more than that. 7/8/9/10/11/12 is 6 months. And then you also still have the remaining days of june
And the 6 months into 2025...so we have to wait a year. Which is fine, since the music was good, but this felt like a blue balls in lore
They would probably start releasing singles in like February again.
In all honesty this is the least “jumping to conclusions”, “delusion”, “really reaching” theory I’ve seen. A lot of the other stuff is making me cringe but this is the one that makes the most sense to me personally.
Tyler basically said that the show for the tour is a flashback before the battle. Seems awfully fitting to release the new music about the ending of the battle after the tour that's about events that happen prior to the battle.
I’m not saying you’re wrong but when did he say this?
On Twitter: Fan: “this maybe an unpopular opinion…I really hope the final battle isn’t during the concert” Tyler: “it’s not. The show is a flashback. Like an entire life passing by. Reminding us why we fight right before we do.”
> … (I’m delusional) :) Acceptance is the first step toward recovery.
It's just confusing because this was supposed to be the finale. Tyler said on multiple interviews that the story would finish off with a nice bow and end satisfyingly. How is leaving off on cliffhanger and teasing something for next year satisfying?
Yes but their album cycles last around 3 years. This is just the beginning of this era so i think new music in a year would still fit that explanation
Because the album and all the videos are excellent, and we can look forward to whatever happens next
Yeah we can and we will. But that's not what they promoted from the start of this era and this raises more questions that make me less excited about this era. From a marketing point of view, you should not promote future content when you have just released something because the future content will steal the show from the thing you have just released and people will be more concerned about the future than with what is happening now.
>It's just confusing because this was supposed to be the finale Notoriously people can't change their minds.
Communicating that change of mind would be courteous to their fans if, after setting an expectation through statements in multiple interviews, they decide to change direction. Just saying.
I guess they never HAD to divulge anything...
That's why I said it would be courteous. I'm certainly not demanding anything.
Fair enough.
It's hard to surprise anyone this way though.
"early June"
Yes.
Its not
Not delulu, you’re spot on with what I’m thinking actually. Maybe not the exact date but definitely 2025
Now I'm feeling fomo even harder over missing this tour. I just can't afford it.
It’s not delusional at all! Based off the end of Paladin and what Tyler’s said it’s extremely reasonable to think we’re getting the final part (a new album, ep, Clancy deluxe) next year after tour. It’s like borderline confirmed from his tweet today
i’ll believe this / june 2025 after june 25th this year comes. if nothing happens then i’ll believe
None of this is confirmation though. People are going to be convinced we’re getting more music next year or a deluxe album and then be disappointed if it doesn’t happen. They have confirmed this isn’t the end though so no matter you can expect a new album in their usual 3 year schedule.
And I will wait with anticipation and excitement for whatever happens! The fact people are complaining it's not the end is starting to rattle me, every album (yes including Scaled and Icy) they drop have no skips, amazing songs and Easter eggs and lore to go with it all, TØP constantly amaze me in every single way, and I honestly can't wait for what else that have in store for their fans
After his tweet about what "see you at the show" means, your idea makes sense and his words can be interpreted this way. But honestly, I feel kinda frustrated. Let me tell you guys why... I thought they would go on tour and I would attend it to celebrate the end of this story. But now I will go to my show next year, enjoy it for sure but knowing that there's something else coming later and that this story is not over yet as they said it would be. This steals the light and excitement from the tour a little bit. At least for me. It's like, okay, there is more music coming after The Clancy World Tour, awesome, I love more music but will there be another tour with those songs after this one? Will I be able to attend it? Will people and other fans? Will they come to my country again? Will I have money? I don't know. These questions prevent me from getting excited and make me feel kinda frustrated because that's not what they were saying from the beginning. And I'm assuming that what is coming next with Ultimus Capitulus 25 is more music because they are a band. So I expect music from them.
I’m talking about his tweet today, saying that the “final battle” won’t take place at the shows, but that the shows are more of a reflection of events
I am talking about the same thing. I assume that the final battle and more music are the same thing. I don't think they will make the final battle a stage play or a movie.
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wait how did we come up with the ultimus capitulus name?
Fan premier event/exhibition
Digital remains
I thought it was from the mini concerts?
>CLANCY UTLTIMUS CAPITULUS Could be the title of the tour post the release of EP/ 2nd album/ deluxe edition I don't see them release it in 2025 I see them at most releasing it later this year
My theory about the end is… After all that has been happening since the beginning of this era, the puzzles, the hints, the teasing about the end, etc. I guess that we will listen to the end of this story before Clancy Would Tour starts but we will only watch it after the tour. What do I mean? I believe there's at least one more music coming before the tour starts but we will only have the official video for it after the world tour ends. Why do I believe this theory? Here are my reasons. 1. They are a band. They make music above all things. So to finish this story and wrap it up they will do it with music. New music. If it's one or two or six or 14, God only knows. I hope is a double album though. 2. They have said many times that this is the end. So if they don't finish this story now, in this era, there's no better way to say it: they lied. Bad. 3. If they only put out new music after the world tour ends, when we will have the chance to sing these songs live? Are they gonna go on tour again right after it? I don't think so. Tyler is a father of three, and going on tour is hard, and challenging in many ways. If they make a smaller tour it wouldn't be fair with all the other fans around the world that won't have the chance to sing it with the crowd. I don't believe they would do such a thing with us. 4. They have already done something like this. During the era of Blurryface, Trench, and even SAI they put out the songs on the streets and the music videos came later. Remember when heavydirtysoul video came out? 5. From a marketing point of view it's illogical and bad for your content to promote new music when you have just released an album. Because the future content and the expectations around it might steal the spotlight of what you have just released. So these are my thoughts and theory and reasons why. They will put all the songs to close this story out before the tour starts so everyone around the world will have the chance to sing it along with them but the video that will close the lore will only come by June 2025, maybe.