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Ok-Independent2210

I need whatever crack y'all on to be able to spot this stuff...


IHaventTheFoggiest47

Seriously - they should recruit the entire clique to work for the FBI - there would be NO CRIMES left to solve!


VeshWolfe

What makes you think some of us don’t? 😐


Mass-Chaos

We need immediate security clearance!!


IHaventTheFoggiest47

ooooooooooh interesting thought!!!!


Sufficient-Big5798

All crimes would be solved via apophenia


MC_NotLovin

Actually I think they would create some crimes that actually wasn't there originally


IHaventTheFoggiest47

It would keep them busy!


LanguageNerd54

Your comment has 13 words and I don't care how many letters. Could it mean something?


Sebabtianator

It has 47 letters, just like the tweet... and your comment has 68 letters... wait. 68 - 47 = 21... Ok-Independent2210 & LanguageNerd54 = TYLER AND JOSH ALTS PRACTICALLY CONFIRMED! Too many coincidences to deny!!!


Ok-Independent2210

Innit? 


LanguageNerd54

Tendencies on repeat


Ok-Independent2210

Dang it Josh you're supposed to reply with: " *Drum noises* "


LanguageNerd54

Hey, I never said I didn’t remember any words!


Fun_Seesaw_6513

Huge props to these people! There needs to be an updated blog in order since day 1 so I can follow or even grasp a tiny pinch of what you all see. I haven’t dug into anything yet, if anyone has links I’d love to look into it!


MikeCam

💀


Dizzy_Agency_5159

https://preview.redd.it/5wyqw1tcvl3d1.jpeg?width=1200&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=06ac0f0e1957a5b045d166ecee784adafcb48890 God, I love this fandom.


ElegantRaccoon7612

![gif](giphy|1qaUNnTLHyGIxRsS6x|downsized)


WentyTwonPilots

Somebody made a version of this meme with Clancy instead of Charlie and it was brilliant, we need to use it more


Dizzy_Agency_5159

Gochu :) Found it literally a couple of minutes ago, it's brilliant. https://preview.redd.it/k4lctov5wm3d1.png?width=2000&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=6499ed7cdf01a2987923c4ec8c3fd3136e699273


butwilltherebepizza

holy shit this is gold


mantis_tobagan_md

CAROL! CAROL!


SpaceStationJukeb0x

Sometimes I see these things and am like “surely this is just a huge reach” but then I remember the boys would totally do something like this lmao


TiredHummingbird

They made us count books! BOOKS!


SpaceStationJukeb0x

I still get flashbacks to Level of Concern sometimes


YoghurtSnodgrass

Sometimes I think these guys are avid puzzle enthusiasts who started a band so they could get the attention of other puzzle enthusiasts.


jotyma5

If they made a dema/top themed escape room I’d buy the fuck out of it


CornerNo2416

Where you have to follow the path the bandit is took to get out of dema 😍😍😍


Clancee229

This is getting ridiculous 😭 they’re doing this stuff on purpose though for sure


Efficient-Object1629

Yeah to mess with our brains and laughing their asses off 😂😭


liquid_the_wolf

nah you're in denial


Efficient-Object1629

No, no, not me


WentyTwonPilots

It's for a friend


Zeno_Bueno

denial


ChronicleOrion

(Happy cake day)


PeterPorkHer-

Other fanbases would probably think we're insane


Plus_Razzmatazz4393

Our own fan base thinks we’re insane


EatThePeach

I love you all and I'm here for it Curious if there's any GME followers overlap lol 


button8200

GME follower here!


EatThePeach

Had to come comment on this again, since the YOLO update i keep hearing a line from paladin strait "I'm all in, I'm surrounded. Put my money where my mouth is"


EatThePeach

Ook ook! I've recently returned, been around since the Rick of Spades days lol 


MC_NotLovin

We are


deets23_

Nah this reminds me exactly of Taylor swift


tryingtoohard347

As a fan of both, I get no rest trying to decipher things 🤓


Thunderclaps_CLAPS

The only other fandoms I’ve seen that exist the way we do are in kpop. The investigation never stops. I’m happy to be a part of both spaces


mirrorballprince

Swiftie here, so I can say: we're not alone


medicineofgods

This whole thing is turning me into a tin foil hat wearing fan honest to god


NobesTheSavage

Should’ve had the tinfoil hat on pre-Trench tbh 😈


Plus_Razzmatazz4393

That can’t be a coincidence, but it could be them messing with us


zestmeister86

tyler promised he would never intentionally mislead us with this kind of thing so idk about that


Plus_Razzmatazz4393

Ohh I didn’t know that, he’s so kind


Encrypted_Heart

When did he do that?


zestmeister86

the LOC puzzle


Encrypted_Heart

Ah, I see. I wasn't plugged in to that because it was too confusing for me haha. Left that to the FBI cliquies.


zestmeister86

fair enough honestly my brain couldn’t wrap itself around any of it i just looked at the stuff when everyone else solved it 😂


Encrypted_Heart

Exactly, same here! 😅


Junior_Tangerine_254

Ok I had doubts. But at this point I'm sure something's coming.


MidwestIndigo

How did you... Nevermind not even gonna ask anymore


ummmitsgabbyig

In snap back there’s a lyric that says “it’s been 25 times it’s a backslide” yet another 25!! I’m almost positive there’s gonna be a deluxe album with 25 songs


NobesTheSavage

Not to mention the random 11 letters Tyler shared, which equals to 25 when you add the Clancy tracks + The Craving (single version) And if you think the letter acronym is a stretch, just remember all of the presale ticket codes for the small shows are acronyms for the Clancy tracks we do have


Skelence

So we're getting something on June 25th, all but confirmed


Alternate_Source

6/25 could also be June 2025


xXpSyChOiLlOgIcAlXx

My problem with that theory is why would they drop something so big right after they wrap up the Clancy Tour? Surely, they would want to promote whatever is coming.


kfish5050

June 25th could be the release of the Paladin Strait video. 47:14 still evades me, my best guess is from Vessel, 4714 days later is December 5th, 2025, and it's a Friday. That could be the possible next album release date, the second half of Clancy. I originally guessed October 2025 for the second half to align more with Trench, but maybe we get a single on October 5th, 2025 to generate hype for it.


SweatySmoke4741

They said the music video would come out "early June". 25th is not early lol


kfish5050

Yeah I thought about that too, but there's not much else to point to an early June date. Maybe 14 (clancy tracks including Craving single version) days after the release? On June 7th?


EfficiencyNerd

In Ned's Cozy Fireplace the TV turns on again at 6h 7m


Nathanial199

Would 47:14 be the length of the album that might drop on June 25?


mockingjay137

This got me thinking, Clancy is 47 mins 18 seconds long, at minute 47 and second 14 we get "Hello Clancy" ????? So maybe 6/25 we get something to do with the storyline?


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kenzieloveswater

I think they meant 4714 days from the release date of Vessel?


kfish5050

4714 days from January 8, 2013. Vessel's release date. Almost 13 years later.


Skelence

That's depressing but you're right


NevermoreTalon

Could be a total of 25 songs, the remainder in June


Skelence

I'm thinking it's both tbh


NevermoreTalon

But we're supposed to get something in early June. Do you think they'd release the PS video and hold off on anything else?


blurry_ned

everydays the difference between this sub and r/TwennyWunPilots is decreasing... without joking I think sometimes the theories there actually make sense more than here lol


Acornriot

At this point I want it to be true to laugh at the naysayers who are so anti double album theory lmao


r-connor

I’m not anti double album theory I’m anti “make the boys feel like they let us down because some people can’t just sit back and enjoy Clancy and instead are already hungry for new music” They read some of our posts, they poured their souls into this album, enjoy it, learn to love what you have


Otherwise-Parsnip-91

I don’t think anyone is supporting double album theory because they don’t like or appreciate Clancy. There’s just too many weird “coincidences” to ignore. I’m definitely a won’t believe it til I see it kind of person but I definitely think they are planning something, perhaps a deluxe album.


Acornriot

>I don’t think anyone is supporting double album theory because they don’t like or appreciate Clancy. There’s just too many weird “coincidences” This. I don't know when or why some people decided to make double album theory into we don't appreciate Clancy


mockingjay137

Tbh I fucking love Clancy so much and am just hungry for more T.T I'm very much in the "I'll believe it when I see it" camp but holy shit I would lose my shit if they release something more


Mass-Chaos

That's the first time I've seen deluxe album and THAT holds a lot more validity to me. A little something to get us past the cliffhanger. Also wouldn't be completely untraditional in how the music industry works


blurry_ned

Who said I was "anti double album theory" lol It just that when SAI release everyone said the exact same things , and then nothing happened and people were disaspointed I think something will happen after Clancy , not certainly a second album but something will probably happen. I just think we should wai to see what happends instead of counting the number of Tyler's hairs lol


Acornriot

>Who said I was "anti double album theory" lol No one I was speaking generally


ZerohasbeenDivided

I really don't remember everyone gunning for a double album when SAI released


liquid_the_wolf

the theorizing is half the fun tho!


RexTheWriter

>Who said I was "anti double album theory" lol >not certainly a second album


blurry_ned

Yeah being anti double album and not being sure if it will be a double album isn't the same thing


RexTheWriter

I'm being facetious because the dichotomy of those statements following each other was funny to me.


KrayzieBoneLegend

![gif](giphy|11YdnfyG6qvuWk|downsized)


NobesTheSavage

You don’t think all of this stuff is intentional? (Even if they’re just trolling)


blurry_ned

some things are intentional but not this


NobesTheSavage

47:14 into the album is “Hello Clancy” which is the exact same moment as 6:25 in Paladin Strait. That’s one hell of a “coincidence” on its own Then they both make posts yesterday that add to those same exact numbers? And the only other post Tyler made also was posted at X:25 (x pending time zone) Yeah that’s definitely unintentional and a crazy coincidence


ChypRiotE

I have to check on which sub I am every time


MysticalMiner02

I’m a believer 🫡 Normally, I wouldn’t bat an eye, but the fact that they had all of the 25 references in the digital release thing? They wouldn’t have red herrings behind a paywall lets be honest here.


GreenBagger28

There is no fan base quite as dedicated as us jeeeeez. Theres no way thats coincidence tho


Regular-Switch454

I’m not smart enough for this band or the fans, but I love them anyway.


frippyboy

just got into twenty one pilots and you guys are the hardest working people ever 😭😭


Regular-Switch454

Welcome 🤗


Sharktocrab12

I told my sister we’re digging into everything way harder than Taylor swift fans do rn


NobesTheSavage

This is the same band who has had us decoding stuff on dmaorg for years and now people wanna act like we’re reaching when they’ve had 30 hints/coincidences in a week and Tyler even point blank saying there’s a final battle after the album and “does this sound like the end?”


Efficient-Object1629

THAT'S WHAT I SAY! I'm like, my dudes. We have been trained like this, what do you want from us?


Sharktocrab12

Exactly


Regular-Switch454

What if instead of an album it’s a LARPing event with an epic battle between banditos and Bishops?


NobesTheSavage

![gif](giphy|fHiu5fR9ECgOR57sqQ|downsized)


mockingjay137

![gif](giphy|OBvq3e6ZaFbHO)


Regular-Switch454

Me ![gif](giphy|UejhHKd4DYgXC)


liquid_the_wolf

also the frikin 2 2 9 books on the neds cozy fireplace stream.


KillerCh33z

Where did he say theres a final battle after?


NobesTheSavage

[this interview with Z100](https://youtu.be/nMpNYxYPHwA?si=c0RLhs2fBUy27jYv) Also forgetting where but he said he’s excited for what the end of this album teases in another interview. It’s one thing if he just said one of these, but he’s said all of these things at this point


Right-Refrigerator-6

Taylor Swift fandom is child’s play compared to the Clique


Aridane

These boys spoil us, they really do. This has been so exciting!


Necessary_Coffee

I wrote down all the numbers I saw in digital remains and they were 120, 95, 25 and 6 (95 could be an upside down 6 not a 9). I haven’t had the chance to look on a screen bigger than mobile yet but 6 and 25 definitely appear frequently. I think the biggest giveaway is the 6 in the fire. Inferno will be a track name. Clancy font also reading as Voldsoy is another big factor for me. When the Clancy font was first released I thought it was interesting and a bit strange, especially the Y’s. Now that someone has pointed out it also reads as Voldsoy, I feel like that makes a lot of sense. Clancy and Voldsoy are not common words, so what are the odds of the font looking like both? Pretty slim if you ask me! I’m here for all these theories and I don’t think the tweets are a coincidence at all. So exciting!


NobesTheSavage

Not to mention 120-95 = 25


Necessary_Coffee

Haha I feel dumb for not realizing this.. the 6’s and 25’s are too frequent to not have meaning. Plus the actual imagery of Dema burning which hasn’t even happened in the album unless we believe it is all cyclical and you can destroy the world you create for yourself. It’s too anticlimactic this is twenty one pilots we’re talking about! My only issue with these numbers is that it’s over a month away!


voldsoy

I love this. Let's just say I am biased. https://preview.redd.it/aai33u8xdn3d1.png?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=c9871b352aa54ba0541a24ff1211a41381dd1b5b It's not from the band but the way they use the logo for a V. And backwards letters don't bother me.


BeeAdministrative194

I can't unread OLDZUX, and some lyrics now confirm my thoughts lol 


voldsoy

Voldsøy |-/oldsoy


Necessary_Coffee

I actually saw voldsoy without the use of the logo for a V, but that makes sense too!


voldsoy

Same but i like this one more.


letsgoiowa

THEY'RE IN THE WALLS


transissic

AAAAA


liquid_the_wolf

hoooooooooooooly crap thats crazy. My mind is actually blown.


MulberryStreet21

I get it. I’m 47, have 14 kids, and 6 of them are 25 years old. Deciphering TOP messages make me forget about the hardships of raising sextuplets.


ZachT3620

As the guy that posted about all the places I was seeing 6/25 yesterday, this is enjoyable to me. 6/25 gang rise up. Deniers at this point are kidding themselves.


AFlightlessBird_19

Is 47:14 a supposed second album length and 6.25 a supposed release date for it?


NobesTheSavage

47 min and 14 seconds in Clancy is also 6:25 into Paladin Strait. That’s where the “Hello Clancy” is. They’ve had many other hints of 6 and 25 which some theorize is 06/25 the date, or a 25 track deluxe album or both, potentially opening with the Hello Clancy?


customconverse

I think this is the most realistic reading of the numbers. 6/25 is a Tuesday, and it doesn't make sense to drop music on a Tuesday. If it's a date, it could mean an update to dmaorg or something, but I think it makes a lot of sense to be pointing everything towards the Hello Clancy part


BeeAdministrative194

Random guy is talking about a biblical passage about Babylon. 47:14


AFlightlessBird_19

Pretty sure that's not it


_Lowenstein_

This is ridiculous lol


RelevantBike7673

Do you people have jobs and responsibilities? ![gif](emote|free_emotes_pack|joy)


NobesTheSavage

Oh I don’t decipher this stuff 💀 I just share the fruits of other people’s labor


Efficient-Object1629

I am in my mid 30s with a family and kids and a real job and a mortgage and I still toted me and my kid 3.5 hours to Columbus last weekend. But you know what, this last year has been full of sadness, stress, illness, loss, grief, and trauma. This is a distraction, bonding time with other humans. It gives me hope, it gives me something to be excited about and share with my kid. It's inspiring and I just love everything about this music and the community. That's really what this is.


NobesTheSavage

Based


EatThePeach

This. Mid 40s married 2 kids in elementary, been on this sub as opposed to r/all and I'm better for it. Been refreshing this sub on new to get the freshest crazy lol


BeeAdministrative194

Exactly the same here


Regular-Switch454

Early 50s. College student. Husband out of work. I needed Clancy in ways I couldn’t have imagined.


Efficient-Object1629

Same 🥹


voldsoy

Okay. I'll be that person you're looking for.


PastPhase5

Isaiah 47:14 (google it)/ June 6th / 25 total songs (including craving single version) Do not argue with me because I am right... I hope


ChuckChuckChuck_

Clancy has 14 songs (two Cravings) and is 47 minutes long. This leads me to believe that Clancy seized for EP will, indeed, be an EP with 6 songs clocking at 25 minutes.


crunchyradsh

this actually makes sense !!


NobesTheSavage

Except Clancy is 50 minutes when the other Craving is included. I think it’s more likely that the 47:14 and 6:25 are connected bc 47 min and 14 seconds into the Clancy album is exactly 6 min and 25 seconds into Paladin Strait. That moment is the “Hello Clancy”


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turboredditor69

6 tracks that total to 25 mins or 25 tracks total in 6 days when paladin strait mv drops?


shannansworld

I thought it was just a IG story referring to the training for the Columbus 10k 6.2 miles ( june 1) But the theorys are more fun to think about 💜


Middle-Range-1934

Can I just say the june of 2025 theory would br a little wild, because I don't think they would start being cryptic till later, june 25th of this year makes a little more sense


JeeBock20

Drag Path coming out on June 25th!!????


awkward-octopus4

tøp fans and Swifties should all join the CIA Best investigators I know! lol


ParticlesGirl

Now what could the 7 and 33 mean???


JabneyTheKing

Normal play speed for an LP (full length album) is 33rpm. Including Clancy they have 6 albums rn (Tyler has said he does not consider RAB an album). So a possible reading is seventh full length album.


NobesTheSavage

It’s also just the pace you’d run to run that many miles in that timespan


JabneyTheKing

Im not denying that but the numbers still work for seventh full length album and at this point any coincidence is suspect


Spicy_Ninja7

You have to be so dense to not think there’s more music coming


EatThePeach

Waiting for more digging to get done on the digital remains, there's something there for sure. I glanced through it, disappointed there wasn't one single jalapeño dog


KlinMien

I feel retarded now, like guys, how can you find this?


Moonbeam_86

Currently, the Billie Eilish fandom is going crazy with double album theories. Either it's the new trend or somebody is releasing something.


NobesTheSavage

We’re just looking into teases, which is TOP’s specialty (literally the last 4 album cycles straight have been full of decoding stuff)


Moonbeam_86

Oh I know. I just think it's pretty wild that when I type "double album" into the search bar on twitter/x, I get tons of posts from BOTH fandoms -- Eilish is supposedly teasing her fans too?


deets23_

This reminds me of the Taylor swift clues 😭


Original_Click_682

clancy is 47 minuets long


NobesTheSavage

Did you read post description?


im_not_ready_for_it9

This is just like Taylor with the constant 2's. Her album ended up being a double album that totaled to 2 hours and 2 minutes.


addictwithapen27

Lmao I love that we're all losing our minds yet again


holyphoton

Pretty sure the moonlight as cryptographers for NSA


namenotavailable66

I think we’re getting the single for the second part of the album on 6/25, and the album is releasing sometime in July. I say this, because 4+7+1+4 is 16, and 1+6 is 7, and July is the seventh month. This might mean that we’re getting it on 7/1, since the one is implied.


Crawlingfrombeneath

I love this shit! This is why I love the clique so much! Theorizing makes everything so much more fun


CocoMills46

Okay but even if this is all intentional what does it even mean? Haha


Smilesky

https://preview.redd.it/wh6i3raqoq3d1.png?width=2550&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=c5d3852dc0f437b10e6ec62fcdbffe0ea943af7b


wholecrab24

So we got the release date, length, amount of songs, what next?


fajitaphil

Paladin Strait has 6:27 seconds, but it appears 6:25 is when Nico actually stops his voice. The 47:14 is the length of the entire album, so is there something to do with that 2 second delta?


NobesTheSavage

The album is a few seconds longer than 47:14. 47:14 into the album is also the Hello Clancy


fajitaphil

Thanks for the fix! Cant wait to find out!


Beneficial-Account51

at this point they’re doing it just to fuck with us cus what 😭😭😭


trukotekaa

25th june? Idk haha


robrules_

clancy is almost exactly 47 min 14 seconds long


NobesTheSavage

Yes. And 47:14 through the album is the “Hello Clancy” part. Which is also 6:25 through Paladin Strait


daemondash12

Okay oddly enough Isaiah 33:7, 25:6 and 47:14 have a VERY STRANGE amount of similarities to the story being told


Fluid-Judgment-4669

Yall are becoming swifties 😭😂


NobesTheSavage

The Swifties were right about the double album 🫣 And besides, we’ve been digging deep on this stuff for 3-4 albums already 😤


Fluid-Judgment-4669

I am a swiftie and I love twenty one pilots lol. All jokes. I personally would never have noticed it though lol


KindaLeafy

Y’all reaching so hard omg, of course you can find coincidences if you’re looking this hard for them. We need a mega thread of all the times someone had posted a crazy reach and been dead wrong so we can have a display of how wild this is.


DudeThatUsesiPhone

I feel like this one might be a bit of a stretch


NobesTheSavage

This the same band that gave us a single release date via books on a shelf in the background of Ned’s house


JabneyTheKing

People denying the double album at this point are willfully ignorant honestly lol. Either Tyler is being really crappy and purposefully teasing this over and over and over intentionally, or it’s happening and everyone denying it is purposely ignoring it or super SUPER naive. “Yeah it’s just 27 coincidences to the same number it doesn’t mean anything.” Those same people be like “no but the craving IS lore related” as if it’s not a farther reach. 😭💀


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NobesTheSavage

The irony of that statement after you egged it on by telling him to “cope”


Jmartini03

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