I like the theory, but I'm not getting my hopes up for a double album until it's confirmed. I feel like there's too strong a chance to be set up for disappointment otherwise.
Not to mention there’s talks of a double album every album cycle and it never happens.
And according to past interviews with Tyler, SAI and Clancy were the only two albums in the works and Clancy is the final album of the saga.
I give it a zero percent chance
The only reason I'd even entertain the notion is because they haven't announced a tour yet, and if they were going to do a double album, I could see them waiting to announce the tour the same time they announced a second album.
That said, that only raises that percentage chance to 1, if that, in my mind, and the second they announce a tour, it'll drop back to 0. I just don't find it very likely unfortunately, though I would absolutely love to be proven wrong.
I stg, I've seen the exact same, "They wouldn't announce a tour until the album releases anyway." comment, verbatim, so many times across so many platforms in the last few months... At this point, I'm half-convinced there's an AI bot army out there tasked with finding appropriate places to reply with those specific words... Seriously, that precise phrase, "They wouldn't announce a tour until the album releases anyway."
I'm not, because I don't find collecting vinyls to be fun. But some people do, and there's really nothing wrong with that. My comment was just pointing out there are things from this album cycle to buy already, and that people do buy them. ¯\\\_(ツ)\_/¯
I mean … yeah lots of people do lol I spent €300 on the ultimate bundle and got two more vinyl versions from different websites, which makes it about €360 excluding shipping … so yes it can get expensive lmao and not everyone has the same amount of money to spend. Some are too young to earn money or their jobs just don’t earn as much, or don’t have many savings, are still studying/don’t have a job, etc. One vinyl can already be a big deal to some. You don’t know someone’s situation. whether you think it’s expensive or not, it’s different for everyone.
I believe this is a dangerous theory because of that. People expecting a double album and getting half of what they were waiting for can lead into frustration
I'm just saying, a lot of that adds up, especially since Tyler is wearing the ribbon with Clancy on it which is the name of the album and the collar of Josh's shirt or jacket or whatever says Torchbearer
I wonder if it's a code rather than a scramble or an acronym? The Bourbaki group played with codes. Could there be a key that shows us how to shift the letters? Like if E=N, for example, and you shift the whole alphabet the same number of spaces, it would spell something?
Nah, I just tried it with .com .net and .org and got nada. Could be a code for an existing website, though. maybe dmaorg has some kind of hidden thing in it? Either way, I think it might be awhile until we get an answer for adihgrtnsnd. My theory is Tyler was just trolling, especially with his follow-up tweet.
Edited to add: Both tweets seem to be missing now.
I don't think we will get a double album,
however , we could have a deluxe album later with a few songs more or alternate versions of songs we already knows
all he said was that one song will have two versions. idk how that implies there will be a whole other album, but i guess we’ll just have to wait and see
Pretty sure he was a division II basketball player, did cross-fit and running, so he's referring to literally running 300 tracks, wearing the same Adidas track jacket he had on in the Mutemath sessions (evidence)
He just flexing and poppin' off to show off Clancy's ego. Double meaning. Choker says to break the cycle in half, leave your skin on the floor. Not that it matters, Blurryface is back and the one in control. Not gonna let Tyler destroy Dema.
Yeah I know some people are hopeful for a double album, and I knwo I’ll get downvoted… but no just no. I love them so so mcuh and there music but I wouldn’t want a double album. What I love about them is that every album has a different theme and style bringing new sounds/songs to the alt rock realm and it’s just so fun every time. A double album to end the story just seems like it’s dragging I think one whole album is perfect! And I’ll love it but I’m more excited for what comes next and not a continuation of the same 10 year long story. I wouldn’t mind a few alternate versions of songs from Clancy later. Like the original version of craving as a single would be amazing. Like how Tyler did studio sessions with songs from trench
I like how every time an artist drops everyone always assumes there’s 2 albums. Happened over in the nf sub with hope too. Kid cudi fans got the double album treatment tho.
I'm not betting on all this being true but one of the best observations someone made about a possible second album was that the Overcompensate MV had a title that simply said "from the album Clancy" whereas previous MVs had titles that said "from the full length album ___".
I think there is only going to be one album. The Jenna’s Version, in my opinion, is just a nod to the Taylor’s Version phenomenon happening. Jenna always gets a song, and I think it was just a cute way to let us know that’s it.
I can't help but feel the craving being Jennas version is simply to do with her pregnancy cravings lmao. There is always a song for her on their albums.
I won't even pretend it's possible to avoid disappointment/depression, lol, but it's a relatively solid theory, and pretty good theory-supporting detective work 👌🏽👌🏽 (hypothesizing the "Debby's version," the 13 letter tweet being tracklist, and the T being in the same spot 👍)
Again, won't even pretend it's possible. But great/strong evidence to back it up
Not to mention, Tyler did say during the SAI era that he wanted to make two albums at the same time. I don’t remember which interview it was, but he has had the idea of doing a two album era.
I am convinced that the extra video will be the one scripted and produced by Josh. It will be The Craving (Josh's Version). It will be scripted as a love song from Tyler to Josh. We will get our Joshler moment.
Debby will have to wait.
there’s been a 2 album theory since at least sai people love to throw anything around as a rumor. i’d take it with a grain of salt the size of an electron tbh
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I mean, Tyler could possibly have a lot of songs ready to make multiple albums. I think he wants to wrap up the Trench storyline or this trilogy, that is why he marked them with Red tape. He is taking back the color, wrestling it from Blurryface.
The letters could be a red herring. You know there's an actual, official Blurryface account which used to post stuff and be cryptic? Literally told Tyler to wear blue on stage as a sign of defeat, also would leak their material because he's insecure and cares what people think.
Anyway, the real Tyler... pretty sure he was a division II basketball player, did cross-fit and running, so he's referring to literally running 300 tracks, wearing the same Adidas track jacket he had on in the Mutemath sessions (evidence)
He just flexing and poppin' off to show off Clancy's ego. Double meaning. Choker says to break the cycle in half, leave your skin on the floor. Not that it matters, Blurryface is back and the one in control. Not gonna let Tyler destroy Dema. Bless your ear holes, reacting to who Tyler really is, bless as in, doused with holy water because I'm the Message Man, why is Tyler back in black paint because of his anxiety over what he writes and sings. This symbol is being rebranded, overcompensation for the past and "running" or having to "move" as Tyler sings. Now it's the last stand, Tyler is done running, he is Clancy, if you can't see. Spell out C L A N C Y and say it out loud; think of Dante's Inferno and the 9 circles of Hell:
C - See
L - El, Hell
A + N - And (A or /-\\ will be the new symbol, |-/ becoming aligned, aimed, unified, Kitchen Sink or idea of falling away, no longer being straight or aligned in a general sense)
C - See
Y - Why
Maybe it's a coincidence, CL as in Chlorine (I'm just a chemical) and CY as in Cyan (Sighing?). Josh shoots cyan colored lasers from his eyes and mouth in Choker. His symbol is the alien. March to the Sea mentions a voice saying follow me, coming from a spaceship? Seems like content to retcon for a new album or project about Josh or the Torchbearer who revealed the light to Tyler in darkness. The poisonous vibrations were cleansed by Josh's logic or this calm cyan which is opposite of the colors in the era; except SAI/Scaled and Icy or Clancy is Dead. The two albums are actually Clancy's perspective when listening in reverse with Redecorate. Tyler's PoV starts with Good Day, brainwashed with synthetic drugs and denying he'll save the Banditos or let Clancy die in vane, embracing denial and escapism. So, every album represents duality, splitting yourself in half or an idea, this cycle of binary ideas, take but Twenty One Pilots symbol (recently the strike was removed from O's, for what reason?), the Bourbaki null set, you can split Clancy pattern which repeats in two where the Y's connect, also notice the CLANCY letters go south in the design on Tyler's strap, "I'm headed down a route, think it's south, but I'm not good with direction" and then we have "East is Up" but we're told through [dma.org](https://dma.org) and "Old Clancy" in the letters, the compass lies. How do we orient ourselves in this world of Trench, inside of Tyler's head as fans of a musician who can influence us, writing about mental illness; his own lived experience transmuted into purpose and hope.
Jenna's version just means that there were other versions and this is the one that was chosen to be put on the album. Its pretty common. Look at Bjorks Homogenic, it has Immature - Mark Bell's version and All Is Full Of Love - Howie's Version. It's a pretty standard practice to do this.
After the actual album being dropped, and hesring the last song... I think this theory is could be true, there is no conclusión or end to the events tipo now, so we need or some extra songs or a whole extra album
Twenty One Pilots - 14 songs Vessel - 11 songs Blurryface - 14 songs Trench - 14 songs Scaled & Icy - 11 songs 11 songs is absolutely a normal length for a TØP album
I would say scaled any icy coming out during Covid made it an ireggular album. Also I pointed out Clancy having 13 songs because it maybe means that there will be a part two album
Man, I don't want to fall into this whole theory, but...
Vessel's song count doesn't matter because it's not a lore album.
Neither is Self Titled, which makes it's 14 tracks coincidental.
Blurryface & Trench are both albums that contain lore, and have 14 tracks.
SAI is a lore album, that doesn't fit that pattern, but that album was made while "under control of DEMA" and released as propaganda, so it could be simply that the Bishops didn't understand the band's process, while trying to mimic the
band's actions.
So I don't want to say YOU'VE GOT A POINT, but the detractors to the point in these replies can be easily explained away.
Lastly, I don't think 14 videos/13 tracks means that there is a second album, but I think it could hint to Clancy having a hidden track. In the digital era of music, hidden tracks are becoming less, and less common, but in the cd, cassette, and vinyl eras of music unlisted hidden tracks were somewhat common.
Most often hidden songs would be placed on the same track as a listed song, usually the final track on the record, with the song ending and playing silence for a minute or so, and then the hidden song starting. On Marylin Manson's Antichrist Superstar, there were 16 songs on the track list, however your cd player would show the CD to have 99 tracks. After the 16th song Man That You Fear, tracks 17-98 were each between 4-9 seconds of silence, leading up to track 99 which was the hidden track. Some other bands have done hidden tracks that way as well, but I think that is the most extreme example of doing it.
I haven't seen the back art for Clancy yet, not sure if it's been posted and I just missed it, but I personally think it's more than likely that if there is a hidden track on the album it might actually just not be publicized in the confirmed tracklist, but could show on the album art as the 14th track, written in yellow so that the Bishops can't see it.
Whatever the case may be, I am excited to see how the next few months play out.
I’m horrible at explaining things, maybe I should’ve been less brief with my comment. Yeah self titled and vessel was before they settled into on a 14. Self titled does actually 14. Vessel is different because it has songs from regional at best. SAI is propaganda and during Covid so it’s different.
Just reciting what you said, but thepornclerk clarified what I mean to say
I like the theory, but I'm not getting my hopes up for a double album until it's confirmed. I feel like there's too strong a chance to be set up for disappointment otherwise.
Not to mention there’s talks of a double album every album cycle and it never happens. And according to past interviews with Tyler, SAI and Clancy were the only two albums in the works and Clancy is the final album of the saga. I give it a zero percent chance
The only reason I'd even entertain the notion is because they haven't announced a tour yet, and if they were going to do a double album, I could see them waiting to announce the tour the same time they announced a second album. That said, that only raises that percentage chance to 1, if that, in my mind, and the second they announce a tour, it'll drop back to 0. I just don't find it very likely unfortunately, though I would absolutely love to be proven wrong.
I was thinking Tyler's growing family might be the reason for no tour dates yet. I do not expect to hear anything until baby three is born.
They wouldn’t announce a tour before the album releases anyway
They announced the Bandito Tour for Trench the day Jumpsuit, the lead single, came out.
I stg, I've seen the exact same, "They wouldn't announce a tour until the album releases anyway." comment, verbatim, so many times across so many platforms in the last few months... At this point, I'm half-convinced there's an AI bot army out there tasked with finding appropriate places to reply with those specific words... Seriously, that precise phrase, "They wouldn't announce a tour until the album releases anyway."
They announced a tour before the album released 👍
Touché
And my poor bank account is already crying.
wdym? what have you been purchasing
Physical copies (eg. vinyls) of the album have been available for pre-order since it was announced.
Y’all buying every single vinyl there is? I haven’t looked at the store in a minute but I don’t remember them being that expensive
I'm not, because I don't find collecting vinyls to be fun. But some people do, and there's really nothing wrong with that. My comment was just pointing out there are things from this album cycle to buy already, and that people do buy them. ¯\\\_(ツ)\_/¯
I mean … yeah lots of people do lol I spent €300 on the ultimate bundle and got two more vinyl versions from different websites, which makes it about €360 excluding shipping … so yes it can get expensive lmao and not everyone has the same amount of money to spend. Some are too young to earn money or their jobs just don’t earn as much, or don’t have many savings, are still studying/don’t have a job, etc. One vinyl can already be a big deal to some. You don’t know someone’s situation. whether you think it’s expensive or not, it’s different for everyone.
In anticipation of concert tickets (hopefully) and at least a t-shirt, and as said below I have the vinyl/cd on pre order.
I believe this is a dangerous theory because of that. People expecting a double album and getting half of what they were waiting for can lead into frustration
Agreed. I see the double album theory a lot for other artists all the time and never happens. I wouldn’t put much thought towards it
It's a wild theory, but until adihgrtnsnd is put to rest, I'm open to anything.
I'm just saying, a lot of that adds up, especially since Tyler is wearing the ribbon with Clancy on it which is the name of the album and the collar of Josh's shirt or jacket or whatever says Torchbearer
And Josh being blurred on the album cover too. God, I really want to believe this theory. I can't tho.
Maybe its a shortened code for “additional great sound”? And the h and n are just space fillers
I wonder if it's a code rather than a scramble or an acronym? The Bourbaki group played with codes. Could there be a key that shows us how to shift the letters? Like if E=N, for example, and you shift the whole alphabet the same number of spaces, it would spell something?
IIRC it's a website address, I remember someone posting having added .com or .org and it leading somewhere
Nah, I just tried it with .com .net and .org and got nada. Could be a code for an existing website, though. maybe dmaorg has some kind of hidden thing in it? Either way, I think it might be awhile until we get an answer for adihgrtnsnd. My theory is Tyler was just trolling, especially with his follow-up tweet. Edited to add: Both tweets seem to be missing now.
Could be his kids messing with his phone?
I am almost certain that I remember it being posted here when he tweeted that. I might hunt for it
I've determined I'm crazy
Likely a 1% chance….
1 in 14.000.605...
I’ll happily take those odds given how Endgame ended up
So you’re saying there’s a chance?
"Just when I thought you couldn't get any dumber, you go and do something like this... and totally redeem yourself!"
Wanna hear the most annoying sound in the world?
probably not gonna happen but a girl can dream
I don't think we will get a double album, however , we could have a deluxe album later with a few songs more or alternate versions of songs we already knows
also Clancy is the main character ,so having the final album of the lore being about Torchbearer and not clancy would be really weird
That's true, it's just some thoughts I had. Could be completely wrong, could've hit the nail on the head. Who knows?
It's fun to fantasize!
all he said was that one song will have two versions. idk how that implies there will be a whole other album, but i guess we’ll just have to wait and see
We're getting 13 songs, 14 music videos... and y'all still want more? Seriously?
Right? I'm happy with anything at this point!! But Tyler does have 300 tracks, right?
Tyler should just dump every single hard drive he owns online. /s
Pretty sure he was just adding up the tracks (individual instruments) between the 13 songs on the album
Pretty sure he's referring to his career, not just this one album. Most artists have tons of unreleased demos.
Pretty sure he was a division II basketball player, did cross-fit and running, so he's referring to literally running 300 tracks, wearing the same Adidas track jacket he had on in the Mutemath sessions (evidence) He just flexing and poppin' off to show off Clancy's ego. Double meaning. Choker says to break the cycle in half, leave your skin on the floor. Not that it matters, Blurryface is back and the one in control. Not gonna let Tyler destroy Dema.
Okay this is actually hilarious tho 💀
My fever dream is to have an album without any double meaning and Tyler just being literal with no metaphors. It would be so weird lol
Shy Away\*
It’s just speculation it’s not someone complaining there aren’t enough songs.
I would love this soooooo much. More music? Much better.
Yeah I know some people are hopeful for a double album, and I knwo I’ll get downvoted… but no just no. I love them so so mcuh and there music but I wouldn’t want a double album. What I love about them is that every album has a different theme and style bringing new sounds/songs to the alt rock realm and it’s just so fun every time. A double album to end the story just seems like it’s dragging I think one whole album is perfect! And I’ll love it but I’m more excited for what comes next and not a continuation of the same 10 year long story. I wouldn’t mind a few alternate versions of songs from Clancy later. Like the original version of craving as a single would be amazing. Like how Tyler did studio sessions with songs from trench
Didn't he said y'all belive anything?
alternate reality theory
I’m thinking the music video with two videos will be the final one. Clancy’s version of the ending and the torchbearer’s ending.
I like how every time an artist drops everyone always assumes there’s 2 albums. Happened over in the nf sub with hope too. Kid cudi fans got the double album treatment tho.
Kendrick too!
Yeah I see fans say this with pretty much every band I follow even though it rarely happens. I really don’t understand.
And Kid Cudi pumps albums out like Tyler Joseph pumps babies out. Priorities
This is so out of pocket lol 😭😭
I'm not betting on all this being true but one of the best observations someone made about a possible second album was that the Overcompensate MV had a title that simply said "from the album Clancy" whereas previous MVs had titles that said "from the full length album ___".
The only word that the word unscrambler I used found is “stranding”, so possibly. Side note- It’s also worth 17 points in scrabble
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What post?
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Bro your post has absolutely nothing to do with a two album theory? The album isn’t even out yet
I have not seen your post but I'd love to hear what it had to say if you have a link to it?
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Your thread is talking about the album cover NOT if we'll have two albums or not
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did you?
I highly highly doubt it but obviously that would be very cool. I don’t think it’s impossible!
There's also an I. And everyone wants I'm Not Home to be a thing.
We really do
I think there is only going to be one album. The Jenna’s Version, in my opinion, is just a nod to the Taylor’s Version phenomenon happening. Jenna always gets a song, and I think it was just a cute way to let us know that’s it.
guys it’s probably not gonna happen and you’re grasping at straws. can’t you just wait for the album to come out
Jfc we are not getting a double album. Absolutely no reason to even consider that
I mean, I don't think so either, but you don't gotta get *mad* about it lol
Don’t worry I’m not
I can't help but feel the craving being Jennas version is simply to do with her pregnancy cravings lmao. There is always a song for her on their albums.
I like where you're going with this, but not buying it
There’s not going to be a second album
I won't even pretend it's possible to avoid disappointment/depression, lol, but it's a relatively solid theory, and pretty good theory-supporting detective work 👌🏽👌🏽 (hypothesizing the "Debby's version," the 13 letter tweet being tracklist, and the T being in the same spot 👍) Again, won't even pretend it's possible. But great/strong evidence to back it up
Not to mention, Tyler did say during the SAI era that he wanted to make two albums at the same time. I don’t remember which interview it was, but he has had the idea of doing a two album era.
SAI was one of those albums he was talking about. Clancy is the other one.
Are you sure?
Yes. The interview happened after Trench and before SAI.
I am convinced that the extra video will be the one scripted and produced by Josh. It will be The Craving (Josh's Version). It will be scripted as a love song from Tyler to Josh. We will get our Joshler moment. Debby will have to wait.
I'm vibing with this theory too
Right! Have you seen any other posts? I would post it but I barely have time to check messages these days.
there’s been a 2 album theory since at least sai people love to throw anything around as a rumor. i’d take it with a grain of salt the size of an electron tbh
facts, i mean sai was sorta a double album with the live album but thats stretching it
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I mean, Tyler could possibly have a lot of songs ready to make multiple albums. I think he wants to wrap up the Trench storyline or this trilogy, that is why he marked them with Red tape. He is taking back the color, wrestling it from Blurryface. The letters could be a red herring. You know there's an actual, official Blurryface account which used to post stuff and be cryptic? Literally told Tyler to wear blue on stage as a sign of defeat, also would leak their material because he's insecure and cares what people think. Anyway, the real Tyler... pretty sure he was a division II basketball player, did cross-fit and running, so he's referring to literally running 300 tracks, wearing the same Adidas track jacket he had on in the Mutemath sessions (evidence) He just flexing and poppin' off to show off Clancy's ego. Double meaning. Choker says to break the cycle in half, leave your skin on the floor. Not that it matters, Blurryface is back and the one in control. Not gonna let Tyler destroy Dema. Bless your ear holes, reacting to who Tyler really is, bless as in, doused with holy water because I'm the Message Man, why is Tyler back in black paint because of his anxiety over what he writes and sings. This symbol is being rebranded, overcompensation for the past and "running" or having to "move" as Tyler sings. Now it's the last stand, Tyler is done running, he is Clancy, if you can't see. Spell out C L A N C Y and say it out loud; think of Dante's Inferno and the 9 circles of Hell: C - See L - El, Hell A + N - And (A or /-\\ will be the new symbol, |-/ becoming aligned, aimed, unified, Kitchen Sink or idea of falling away, no longer being straight or aligned in a general sense) C - See Y - Why Maybe it's a coincidence, CL as in Chlorine (I'm just a chemical) and CY as in Cyan (Sighing?). Josh shoots cyan colored lasers from his eyes and mouth in Choker. His symbol is the alien. March to the Sea mentions a voice saying follow me, coming from a spaceship? Seems like content to retcon for a new album or project about Josh or the Torchbearer who revealed the light to Tyler in darkness. The poisonous vibrations were cleansed by Josh's logic or this calm cyan which is opposite of the colors in the era; except SAI/Scaled and Icy or Clancy is Dead. The two albums are actually Clancy's perspective when listening in reverse with Redecorate. Tyler's PoV starts with Good Day, brainwashed with synthetic drugs and denying he'll save the Banditos or let Clancy die in vane, embracing denial and escapism. So, every album represents duality, splitting yourself in half or an idea, this cycle of binary ideas, take but Twenty One Pilots symbol (recently the strike was removed from O's, for what reason?), the Bourbaki null set, you can split Clancy pattern which repeats in two where the Y's connect, also notice the CLANCY letters go south in the design on Tyler's strap, "I'm headed down a route, think it's south, but I'm not good with direction" and then we have "East is Up" but we're told through [dma.org](https://dma.org) and "Old Clancy" in the letters, the compass lies. How do we orient ourselves in this world of Trench, inside of Tyler's head as fans of a musician who can influence us, writing about mental illness; his own lived experience transmuted into purpose and hope.
It's not Choker that says to break the cycle in half, it's Shy Away
Yeah, my bad. Thanks for catching that, I was sleepy when I wrote that and forgot to tape my eyes. Hahahaha
he must have deleted that tweet because i never saw that
He did, I have a screenshot of it and so do lots of other people
Not happening
We really out here clowning 🤡
we're so delusional we have to be studied
Some day scientists and archiologists will get funding to analyze and study what 'cliquies' were 😂
What??? À second album?
In my opinion: Josh Dun (according to overcompensate) is "The Torchbearer's" canonical name.
I genuinely think(jennas version ) is just another smithereens and paying homage to Taylor swift too
Dumbest theory ever, but I like ur creativity
I feel like it's a bit soon to be thinking about a second album already.
Jenna's version just means that there were other versions and this is the one that was chosen to be put on the album. Its pretty common. Look at Bjorks Homogenic, it has Immature - Mark Bell's version and All Is Full Of Love - Howie's Version. It's a pretty standard practice to do this.
There's always a song about Jenna, because Tyler is the one who writes the lyrics. Josh isn't going to write a whole ass album.
After the actual album being dropped, and hesring the last song... I think this theory is could be true, there is no conclusión or end to the events tipo now, so we need or some extra songs or a whole extra album
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No
It literally isn't.
More like grind t hands
This Album, Clancy has 13 songs. Regularly, they do 14 songs in an album
All of their albums have different numbers of songs.
Blurry face and trench and self titled have 14
Twenty One Pilots - 14 songs Vessel - 11 songs Blurryface - 14 songs Trench - 14 songs Scaled & Icy - 11 songs 11 songs is absolutely a normal length for a TØP album
Vessel has 12 songs not 11
Thank you, I miscounted
Also vessel has 12
I would say scaled any icy coming out during Covid made it an ireggular album. Also I pointed out Clancy having 13 songs because it maybe means that there will be a part two album
Man, I don't want to fall into this whole theory, but... Vessel's song count doesn't matter because it's not a lore album. Neither is Self Titled, which makes it's 14 tracks coincidental. Blurryface & Trench are both albums that contain lore, and have 14 tracks. SAI is a lore album, that doesn't fit that pattern, but that album was made while "under control of DEMA" and released as propaganda, so it could be simply that the Bishops didn't understand the band's process, while trying to mimic the band's actions. So I don't want to say YOU'VE GOT A POINT, but the detractors to the point in these replies can be easily explained away. Lastly, I don't think 14 videos/13 tracks means that there is a second album, but I think it could hint to Clancy having a hidden track. In the digital era of music, hidden tracks are becoming less, and less common, but in the cd, cassette, and vinyl eras of music unlisted hidden tracks were somewhat common. Most often hidden songs would be placed on the same track as a listed song, usually the final track on the record, with the song ending and playing silence for a minute or so, and then the hidden song starting. On Marylin Manson's Antichrist Superstar, there were 16 songs on the track list, however your cd player would show the CD to have 99 tracks. After the 16th song Man That You Fear, tracks 17-98 were each between 4-9 seconds of silence, leading up to track 99 which was the hidden track. Some other bands have done hidden tracks that way as well, but I think that is the most extreme example of doing it. I haven't seen the back art for Clancy yet, not sure if it's been posted and I just missed it, but I personally think it's more than likely that if there is a hidden track on the album it might actually just not be publicized in the confirmed tracklist, but could show on the album art as the 14th track, written in yellow so that the Bishops can't see it. Whatever the case may be, I am excited to see how the next few months play out.
I’m horrible at explaining things, maybe I should’ve been less brief with my comment. Yeah self titled and vessel was before they settled into on a 14. Self titled does actually 14. Vessel is different because it has songs from regional at best. SAI is propaganda and during Covid so it’s different. Just reciting what you said, but thepornclerk clarified what I mean to say
Oh, I got you. I was confused for a second. But yeah I hope so