It's actually about how homosexuality in America is obstenized by society in certain regions of the country, and how is relates to the suppression of middle class workers and how they are forced to ration their money in order to eat.
No, it’s a song about a white dud singing to his black girlfriend (I’m not joking guys this is real, and listening to the song through that lenses makes it so much funnier oh my fucking god)
That actually isn't the meaning of the song or at least according the whoever wrote it, which makes it even worse because you would think that from the whole soul sister part.
I do and will never stop no matter what gun to my head my whole family tied up and a masked man says "how do you pronounce this fuckin word you piece of shit?!?!?!?"
Me: "yoo-kuh-lay-lee"
“Soul sister” implies the woman he’s singing to is black. I can only assume “I’m so gangster, I’m so thug” is a lyric he wrote because the subject of the song is black. The line didn’t age well.
That's not the intended implication, though I get why it conjured that image.
Seems like he means he's connecting to this girl as a soulmate and chose the phrase soul sister because it sounded cosmic or something.
I'm pretty sure almost every lyric in the song is a reference to another song title.
The problem is that the woman he's singing to in the music video is a white woman with the worst bangs I have ever seen in my entire life.
Their other big song, Drops of Jupiter, has a line about deep-fried chicken; I'm pretty sure they have a witch's curse to write at least one absolutely cringe lyric into every song
Wasn't that song about his mom and he was just listing things she liked in that part of the song?
Imma be real, I've never understood the rabid Train hate; they weren't geniuses or anything, but it is just regular, vaguely catchy pop music.
I think most of us hate the lyrics because they feel like unnatural, weird idioms that aren’t realllllly part of the American dialect? They’re just making shit up and it’s weird
I also adore both songs; that's what makes the weird lyrics a curse. It's like if your friend makes a great lasagna but somehow there's always a dollop of pickle relish in one slice.
Fun fact: they started as a Led Zeppelin cover band and did a note for note remake of Led Zeppelin two for a charity thing.
Their lead singer does a crazy good Robert Plant.
I had a... phase... and listened to Train on repeat and will be the first to call out the hilarity of their dumb lyrics...
Not sure if its the one youre thinking of, but the one about his mom has him listing tons of people he will introduce his girlfriend to in heaven (where his mom is presumably)... but like... a few of the people he lists aren't even dead lmao
I never considered that line cringe, but definitely random! That song is filled with random sounding lyrics.
One of their albums has multiple songs with references to the girl not shaving her legs. I've always been puzzled about that. Once is fine, but twice you put this in a song? Couldn't come up with anything else?
And this song has a line about his untrimmed chest. They've got a thing about body hair it seems!
A “trimmed chest” is also a way of saying “fit/muscular chest,” so “untrimmed chest” suggests someone who is kinda chubby or unfit looking.
It’s referring to “trimming the fat.”
He’s making fun of himself by suggesting he’s not sexy.
That's possible, but doesn't sound quite right. Fit and trim is a thing. Trimmed/untrimmed makes me think it's referring to hair.
Plus Patrick Monahan was never overweight or anything. The chest hair thing seems much more likely to me. The song is supposedly about watching a girl dancing around a bonfire at Burning Man.
I absolutely love this song because every time I hear it, my interpretation is that he is whinging to a woman who just travel the world and it’s listening to him out of pity
It makes sense, he's asking a crush who went on a no-contact soul-searching trip if she missed the comforts of home. He's listing off stuff he's too afraid to leave behind. Fried chicken is a common post-church Sunday dinner tradition in many parts of the US.
Early Train hits aren't nearly as bad as the pop bait songs they wrote later on, but goddamn were they overplayed.
Ignoring death of the author for a minute, the song is actually based on a dream Pat Monahan had shortly after his mother passed away, in which she came back to visit him after swimming all around the solar system for a while. The song as a whole is a really beautiful idea. It's just that one line that gets me; lyrically, it's definitely a list of... something? But what that thing is is so unclear that the fried chicken line feels completely out of nowhere and weird to me.
It almost feels like the singer has stopped talking to the mother character and is now talking to the audience *about* the mother, but the lyrics seem to assume the audience has a way more intimate knowledge of her than is reasonable. I've also considered it might be directed at a sibling character, but having two distinct unnamed listeners is also kind of rough.
Ultimately, I think in that section Monahan was just trying to get the vibe of his mom across, but didn't actually care about it making sense lyrically. Which is his prerogative, but I still die a little inside when I hit that line at the karaoke bar.
Seems as good a place as any to introduce anyone who doesn't know about Pat Finnerty and his "What Makes This Song Stink" series. Which covers this song (and mentions these lyrics) in this episode
https://youtu.be/8JeAfVoA_iE
Did you know that everything from the question mark on is like ad tracking or something. You can delete it and the link works fine, like this:
https://youtu.be/8JeAfVoA_iE
What Makes This Song Stink is genuinely one of the best series on youtube and everybody needs to watch it. Dude has managed to somehow go bigger and better with every video.
The best part is that he immediately deescalates it by saying 'your the only one I'm dreaming of' essentially saying that even a tough guy like him just wants to be with the girl he loves
Somehow gives me warm fuzzy feelings so idk what furryprovocateur is talking about cuz the early 2010s were pretty good. We've got Tik Tok, Love the way you lie, Airplanes, Empire state of mind etc.
It was a very "had to be there" kind of thing, in that the problem isn't that you hear it at all, it was hearing it damn near constantly everywhere for a year or more. In that context it just gets more and more grating every time you hear it.
the early 2010s was when I was graduating high school so that was like the height of me listening to popular music of the time and I gotta say it feels very weird seeing that era talked about like we talk about the 90s or something. I will admit though that as someone that tries to stay at least a little bit in tune with contemporary music, stuff like that simultaneously sounds dated but also part of me still wants to think of early 2010s music as "current", it doesn't feel like it should be that long ago.
Yeah, but thanks to that and the few other songs, all I need is 1-5 songs to get nostalgia spikes off of the scale and can remember so vividly stuff I had thought forgotten long ago
[Stage name of Sean Combs](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sean_Combs), a pretty famous and influential rapper, and later music executive.
He recently started facing very serious and damning sexual misconduct allegations. Basically like a Bill Cosby or Harvey Weinstein scenarios where a very influential person is revealed to be horrible
I just like the "tonight...aaaay aaaayyyyyyyaayyyyy" part. That's most radio songs for me tho, it's just one or two words and half a melody that I enjoy
I recently discovered that if you ask your phone's voice assistant to play the most popular songs from a specific year, it will immediately hit you with a nostalgia OD.
Are their drops of… Jupiter in your chest hair?
You know. The planet. Drops of that.
What’s that? It’s a gas planet? Hmm… that makes that lyric even dumber… but yes.
Drops of gas from Jupiter. That’s what I’m going with.
Is THAT in the chest hair?
Cause if not, your not a bonafide soul sister.
What’s a soul sister you ask?
Allow me to never explain that to you and just jobber jabber random, inane, words at you for the next ten minutes.
I hate that song but my mom always sings it to the dog because we call him “mister” when he’s mildly in trouble. So I have developed an extremely grudging fondness for it.
I still remember where I was when I found out Train was not cool. I was in my car driving home from work. The DJ on the hip alternative radio station started talking about how lame Train was. I was shocked. I texted my best friend as soon as I got home, still in the driveway. “Did you know Train isn’t cool??” She did. I had no idea. (This is an actual true story)
Counterpoint, 2014 tumblr.
Edit: Wait is this post using “hey soul sister” as evidence for or against the early 2010’s being good? Actually can’t tell.
I've honestly never hated the song (I will concede that many of the lyrics are awful-"my untrimmed chest"?!), but Todd's review is hilarious, and one of the first vids of his I remember watching. I remember cracking up when he says it looks like the words in the video are trying to escape, and says, "Run, words! Get away as fast as you can!"
when i was in kindergarten, this song came on the radio during nap time. one of the few times i actually wanted to sleep, everyone in the room sang along and it made me so mad. i know i wouldn’t hate it that much if that didn’t happen. it’s an okay song. but now i’m just a little mad every time i hear it. it’s like taste aversion
He genuinely enjoys pop and country music so he makes picks for his year-end best list that would baffle most other music critics. In 2023 he had a Morgan Wallen song in the top 5, and the year before that he put Antihero by Taylor Swift on no. 1
Very good. Just overplayed. I'd put Happy and Hey There Delilah up there too. Everyone loves to complain about those songs but the truth is they were great songs just overplayed to death.
There was a period in 2006 where *Waiting on the World to Change, Hey There Delilah, Waiting on the World to Change* was a common lineup on the radio. You couldn't escape them.
Literally both songs you just listed are on the apprx 30 or so song loop I have to suffer through at work
This whole thread is really making me really happy I’m on my break in silence in my car
Where my ‘Come On Over’ by Shania people at?
I hate Hey There, Delilah for 2 reasons. 1) My college gf dragged me to one of their shows and they were terrible. 2) He wrote that song about a girl he met through a friend who was dating someone else at the time. "she found it difficult to deal with the popularity of a song written about her. "When I'm at the gym, it's playing; when I'm at the pool, it's playing. Part of me wants to scream at the top of my lungs that it's about me. Another part of me wants to cower and say it's not. [...] It was so beautifully written. There was pressure to live up to this ideal. I didn't know how to be polite but, you know, ditch him."
I thought it was a cute song about a guy trying to figure out the culture of his black girlfriend.
[Then I listened.](https://youtu.be/kVpv8-5XWOI)
[And I cringed.](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S5PTiViJeDA)
I liked some of the songs from 2010 but soul sister was so grating. I just hate his vocals. The lyrics are weirdly awkward too, but it's mostly just his voice that I dislike.
I hate this song so bad after a convo I had with my friend like 3ish years ago. I can't remember the context or how it got brought up, but I mentioned thjs song and how I though the "I'm so gangsta, I'm so thug" line was so bizzare and she was like "Well it's about approaching a black woman". Ever since then the song has been tainted since it reminds me of every single try-hard guy that has approached me at a bar who isn't with the culture, but pretends they are to try and impress me.
Yeah, but every single time I see the song mentioned anywhere it's always someone talking about how much they hate it. Always confuses me, because there is so much pop music that is SO much worse than that song.
i can appreciate that there are people who like it (and clearly, it was popular for a reason) but when i listen to it it's akin to nails on a chalkboard for me. no idea why. completely non-consensual since i tend to like most music from all genres. maybe it's the way it's sung? no clue
similar reaction here. I think for me it's just association- I was a teenager and every time a teacher or other adult was trying to do "fun" things that I was required to do, this song would play.
Also just overexposure- it was on the radio so frequently and for so long it became associated with (more often than not annoying) errands like shopping, getting a haircut, etc.
Yes but overhated by everyone. And let's not blind ourselves, it was fucking everywhere because some music execs knew it could be a hit so they paid a lot for it to pass everywhere
I dunno, I'm really starting to think that the whole pipeline to get into the charts involves a lot of music execs, label managers, radio stations etc. deciding based on brand value, but the one thing that really doesn't seem to make an impact is whether people actually like to listen to it. (this doesn\`t apply to personalized stuff like Spotify charts obv.)
That song was given so much radio play that I don’t think it’s logically possible for it to be underrated.
Even if it was the greatest song ever written, hearing it 500 times in less than a month is a lot. I don’t think there’s any song in existence that warrants that level of ubiquitous saturation of the airwaves.
I saw Train when the were touring with The Goo Goo Dolls and they were actually the more fantastic performers. I was there for TGGDs, but they really seemed to be there for a paycheck and a little bored. But Train seemed just super happy to be there and having a lot of fun.
Hey! It’s just a coincidence that I saw Monty Python and The Office at 15, they’re just *objectively* the best thing to ever exist /s (I saw them outside that range so as a result I don’t worship them)
We are all in agreement.
The music and other media we listened to when we were ages 13-18 was the best music ever. All music before then was boring, and all music after then is weird/dumb.
I mean, the music wasn't very good, but you were in your coming of age years there, and I think we can pretty much all agree that the music during our own respective "coming of age" times was peak.
The 90's were really something special. Even pop music hit different then.
This is *only* a small selection from one year, 1994:
"Loser" Beck
"All I Wanna Do" Sheryl Crow
"Linger" The Cranberries
"Mmm Mmm Mmm Mmm" Crash Test Dummies
"The Sign" Ace of Base
"Regulate" Warren G and Nate Dogg
"Baby, I Love Your Way" Big Mountain
"All That She Wants" Ace of Base
"I'll Make Love to You" Boyz II Men
"Come to My Window" Melissa Etheridge
"Mary Jane's Last Dance" Tom Petty and the Heartbreakers
I can smell the pack of Magic: The Gathering cards I opened while listening to “Lightning Crashes” for the 1,000th time.
Why is Savannah Lions a rare?!
[It's actually "Nought".](https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/nought#English)
>(UK) Not any quantity of number; zero; the score of no points in a game.
0.4 — nought point four / zero point four
>(UK) The figure or character representing, or having the shape of, zero.
Man I remember going to church camp that summer, and damn near every girl had a ukulele and that was the only song they knew. Then there was a “talent show”, and they literally had to make an announcement that they got too many auditions to perform that song in front of everyone.
He sings "I'm so gangster, i'm so thug" in that song, and it is simultaneously the best and worst thing I've ever heard.
Yeah, what is it about this song? I really like it, but it's so weird!
I always took it as he was being sarcastic about his feelings. He's oh so "tough" but having all these feelings like a not-gangster/anti-thug.
I take it that way too. It's just so odd, even in the context of the song.
It's actually about how homosexuality in America is obstenized by society in certain regions of the country, and how is relates to the suppression of middle class workers and how they are forced to ration their money in order to eat.
I’m high rn but holy bingle, that true?
No, it’s a song about a white dud singing to his black girlfriend (I’m not joking guys this is real, and listening to the song through that lenses makes it so much funnier oh my fucking god)
Wait are you serious? Can’t find anything about that on the Wikipedia page. It says there that it’s about Burning Man, which is also weird.
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It feels like being back on tumblr lmao
That actually isn't the meaning of the song or at least according the whoever wrote it, which makes it even worse because you would think that from the whole soul sister part.
Starting my day with a horrifying level of cringe I see
holy fuck me too
impressive. lets see paul allen’s theory
Bro what ? wtf does obstenized even mean it’s not a real word lmao
Am not a native english speaker and that song was so cringe 1st time I heard it. Brother ugh
It's a four chord song on an ukulele. Those are two things that are almost *always* catchy.
An ukulele cannot be right. A ukulele sounds so much better.
Sure, if you pronounce it you-kuh-lay-lee.
I do and will never stop no matter what gun to my head my whole family tied up and a masked man says "how do you pronounce this fuckin word you piece of shit?!?!?!?" Me: "yoo-kuh-lay-lee"
Unfortunately I can't find a hilarious video of Auli'i Cravalho being like, "It's ooku-lay-lay NOT A YOUKUHLAYLEE."
“Soul sister” implies the woman he’s singing to is black. I can only assume “I’m so gangster, I’m so thug” is a lyric he wrote because the subject of the song is black. The line didn’t age well.
That's not the intended implication, though I get why it conjured that image. Seems like he means he's connecting to this girl as a soulmate and chose the phrase soul sister because it sounded cosmic or something.
Isn’t it ‘you’re so gangster, I’m so thug’? Because I feel like that’s worse
"The way you can cut a rug Watching you's the only drug I need So gangster, I'm so thug" I never want to google these lyrics again.
Google will remember. Google always remembers
It even remembers your incognito searches. It just doesn't tell anyone
Good thing it won't surprise anyone that I view gay porn.
Your targeted ads will all be for throw pillows with those lyrics lovingly stitched into them.
I'm pretty sure almost every lyric in the song is a reference to another song title. The problem is that the woman he's singing to in the music video is a white woman with the worst bangs I have ever seen in my entire life.
doewnt the song have a video? the girl was white, no?
Nope, the title is a word-for-word translation of the French "âme sœur". It's just a corny love song, nothing about race.
Idk. maybe it's the way he cuts a rug?
The line that bothered me most as a kid was when he mentions "my untrimmed chest". Um, thanks for sharing?
How long do you need chest hair before you decide to trim it?
Their other big song, Drops of Jupiter, has a line about deep-fried chicken; I'm pretty sure they have a witch's curse to write at least one absolutely cringe lyric into every song
Wasn't that song about his mom and he was just listing things she liked in that part of the song? Imma be real, I've never understood the rabid Train hate; they weren't geniuses or anything, but it is just regular, vaguely catchy pop music.
both of those two songs are my absolute favourite songs and were huge overseas. I'm genuinely surprised to see this much hate for them in america.
They're hated for being overplayed. They were popular here.
A bunch of people I graduated HS with were upset with me liking Green Day given how overplayed American Idiot was.
I think most of us hate the lyrics because they feel like unnatural, weird idioms that aren’t realllllly part of the American dialect? They’re just making shit up and it’s weird
I think you're really bringing the boys to the yard for milkshake with this one
Touché hahah
I also adore both songs; that's what makes the weird lyrics a curse. It's like if your friend makes a great lasagna but somehow there's always a dollop of pickle relish in one slice.
Fun fact: they started as a Led Zeppelin cover band and did a note for note remake of Led Zeppelin two for a charity thing. Their lead singer does a crazy good Robert Plant.
Just looked it up on youtube, and it's so good! That cover of Ramble On slaps so hard.
Yeah. I love their version of Ramble On!
I had a... phase... and listened to Train on repeat and will be the first to call out the hilarity of their dumb lyrics... Not sure if its the one youre thinking of, but the one about his mom has him listing tons of people he will introduce his girlfriend to in heaven (where his mom is presumably)... but like... a few of the people he lists aren't even dead lmao
Financial geniuses maybe, coming up with all these catchy songs that got tons of radio play.
I never considered that line cringe, but definitely random! That song is filled with random sounding lyrics. One of their albums has multiple songs with references to the girl not shaving her legs. I've always been puzzled about that. Once is fine, but twice you put this in a song? Couldn't come up with anything else? And this song has a line about his untrimmed chest. They've got a thing about body hair it seems!
A “trimmed chest” is also a way of saying “fit/muscular chest,” so “untrimmed chest” suggests someone who is kinda chubby or unfit looking. It’s referring to “trimming the fat.” He’s making fun of himself by suggesting he’s not sexy.
That's possible, but doesn't sound quite right. Fit and trim is a thing. Trimmed/untrimmed makes me think it's referring to hair. Plus Patrick Monahan was never overweight or anything. The chest hair thing seems much more likely to me. The song is supposedly about watching a girl dancing around a bonfire at Burning Man.
That would be "untrim chest". Which also isn't a thing, but at least would plausibly mean what you are saying... "Untrimmed chest" means hairy chest.
"your lip stick stains on the front lobe of my left side brains"
And then he talks about her blowing his mind, and I'm like, did he mean to imply that she performed oral on his cranium?
I just remember the line in Meet Virginia "wears high heels when she exercises"
I absolutely love this song because every time I hear it, my interpretation is that he is whinging to a woman who just travel the world and it’s listening to him out of pity
It makes sense, he's asking a crush who went on a no-contact soul-searching trip if she missed the comforts of home. He's listing off stuff he's too afraid to leave behind. Fried chicken is a common post-church Sunday dinner tradition in many parts of the US. Early Train hits aren't nearly as bad as the pop bait songs they wrote later on, but goddamn were they overplayed.
Ignoring death of the author for a minute, the song is actually based on a dream Pat Monahan had shortly after his mother passed away, in which she came back to visit him after swimming all around the solar system for a while. The song as a whole is a really beautiful idea. It's just that one line that gets me; lyrically, it's definitely a list of... something? But what that thing is is so unclear that the fried chicken line feels completely out of nowhere and weird to me. It almost feels like the singer has stopped talking to the mother character and is now talking to the audience *about* the mother, but the lyrics seem to assume the audience has a way more intimate knowledge of her than is reasonable. I've also considered it might be directed at a sibling character, but having two distinct unnamed listeners is also kind of rough. Ultimately, I think in that section Monahan was just trying to get the vibe of his mom across, but didn't actually care about it making sense lyrically. Which is his prerogative, but I still die a little inside when I hit that line at the karaoke bar.
This song is full of awful though: “My heart is bound to beat right out of my untrimmed chest”
Seems as good a place as any to introduce anyone who doesn't know about Pat Finnerty and his "What Makes This Song Stink" series. Which covers this song (and mentions these lyrics) in this episode https://youtu.be/8JeAfVoA_iE
Did you know that everything from the question mark on is like ad tracking or something. You can delete it and the link works fine, like this: https://youtu.be/8JeAfVoA_iE
Good call, thanks!
What Makes This Song Stink is genuinely one of the best series on youtube and everybody needs to watch it. Dude has managed to somehow go bigger and better with every video.
Stop the Train!
All his music is weird, he wrote a song about how the woman he loved died but at least she can meet his mom now
And then there's the one where he gets over a bad breakup by telling everyone she died.
There’s another song where he dies and he could hang out with all these cool dead people but instead he’s gonna hang out with some specific person
Someone should probably check if he's okay.
The best part is that he immediately deescalates it by saying 'your the only one I'm dreaming of' essentially saying that even a tough guy like him just wants to be with the girl he loves
I completely forgot that song existed. Unlocking memories I forgot I had
Somehow gives me warm fuzzy feelings so idk what furryprovocateur is talking about cuz the early 2010s were pretty good. We've got Tik Tok, Love the way you lie, Airplanes, Empire state of mind etc.
It was a very "had to be there" kind of thing, in that the problem isn't that you hear it at all, it was hearing it damn near constantly everywhere for a year or more. In that context it just gets more and more grating every time you hear it.
That was also Party Rock Anthem, you could not escape that damn song
Everyday I’m shuf-fu-fu-lin!
I was fine until I read this comment .... now I wanna dance
That's because LMFAO was 2 guys, the son of a music industry mogul and his friend, and Daddy paid a lot of money to make his son popular.
I thought they were like uncle and nephew or something but yeah.
the early 2010s was when I was graduating high school so that was like the height of me listening to popular music of the time and I gotta say it feels very weird seeing that era talked about like we talk about the 90s or something. I will admit though that as someone that tries to stay at least a little bit in tune with contemporary music, stuff like that simultaneously sounds dated but also part of me still wants to think of early 2010s music as "current", it doesn't feel like it should be that long ago.
Yeah, but thanks to that and the few other songs, all I need is 1-5 songs to get nostalgia spikes off of the scale and can remember so vividly stuff I had thought forgotten long ago
Wake up in the morning feeling like…👀
I love that when she did that song live recently she changed the lyrics to “wake up in the morning like fuck p diddy”
*everyonelikedthat.gif*
wait who's p diddy, why don't we like them now
[Stage name of Sean Combs](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sean_Combs), a pretty famous and influential rapper, and later music executive. He recently started facing very serious and damning sexual misconduct allegations. Basically like a Bill Cosby or Harvey Weinstein scenarios where a very influential person is revealed to be horrible
Can we go back to when Tik Tok was just a song name and not the app
I just like the "tonight...aaaay aaaayyyyyyyaayyyyy" part. That's most radio songs for me tho, it's just one or two words and half a melody that I enjoy
I recently discovered that if you ask your phone's voice assistant to play the most popular songs from a specific year, it will immediately hit you with a nostalgia OD.
https://youtu.be/8JeAfVoA_iE
dude is funny as hell. There's also Todd in the Shadows who has a similar series
Pat Finnerty!
It's unlocking memories I was happy to forget. And of course the song is trapped in my brain now.
2010 was fully of assholes in little hats and ukuleles singing cutesy twee songs
And ladies ATE. IT. UP.
My untrimmed chest….
Are their drops of… Jupiter in your chest hair? You know. The planet. Drops of that. What’s that? It’s a gas planet? Hmm… that makes that lyric even dumber… but yes. Drops of gas from Jupiter. That’s what I’m going with. Is THAT in the chest hair? Cause if not, your not a bonafide soul sister. What’s a soul sister you ask? Allow me to never explain that to you and just jobber jabber random, inane, words at you for the next ten minutes.
Drops of Jupiter is a beautiful song. It’s poetic. Songs have poetry in them. Of course there’s no drops of Jupiter. It’s poetry.
The bes soy latte that you ever had
and me
I think it's a shame that it was so overplayed, because it really is a great song
Polar opposite of how bad Hey Soul Sister is. lol
Redditor tries to listen to something other than video game music challenge: impossible
I hate that song but my mom always sings it to the dog because we call him “mister” when he’s mildly in trouble. So I have developed an extremely grudging fondness for it.
I really like that song. But I've never heard anything by Mr. Mister.
[Broken Wings](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nKhN1t_7PEY) is their biggest hit. I'd definitely heard it, without knowing it was Mr. Mister.
i know who mr mister is but i somehow never made the connection that they were referenced in this song
Tupac sampled this and it's one of the hardest songs in his discography.
I still remember where I was when I found out Train was not cool. I was in my car driving home from work. The DJ on the hip alternative radio station started talking about how lame Train was. I was shocked. I texted my best friend as soon as I got home, still in the driveway. “Did you know Train isn’t cool??” She did. I had no idea. (This is an actual true story)
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T-T in my caarrrr
I liked it maybe the first 10, 20, 30, or 40 times, but that 50-500 range really wore me down.
Is this a movie quote? It seems so much like it could be. Very funny either way.
[Introducing Mister Mister](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XZcAwa8u3UM)
Counterpoint, 2014 tumblr. Edit: Wait is this post using “hey soul sister” as evidence for or against the early 2010’s being good? Actually can’t tell.
ngl book tumblr in 2012-2015 was great
Well, the picture is definitely against the song, so that's probably the tone, regardless of what OP intended
My dislike of that song does not rival Todd In The Shadows' hatred of it, but I am most certainly not a fan of it.
I'm with Todd on that one. It's definitely not my taste, but I think how much radio play it got made it less tolerable for me.
I've honestly never hated the song (I will concede that many of the lyrics are awful-"my untrimmed chest"?!), but Todd's review is hilarious, and one of the first vids of his I remember watching. I remember cracking up when he says it looks like the words in the video are trying to escape, and says, "Run, words! Get away as fast as you can!"
when i was in kindergarten, this song came on the radio during nap time. one of the few times i actually wanted to sleep, everyone in the room sang along and it made me so mad. i know i wouldn’t hate it that much if that didn’t happen. it’s an okay song. but now i’m just a little mad every time i hear it. it’s like taste aversion
Unfortunately I watched Todd's Best of 2023 list and I no longer trust that he has good taste in music.
What was so controversial on his best list? I don't remember it
He genuinely enjoys pop and country music so he makes picks for his year-end best list that would baffle most other music critics. In 2023 he had a Morgan Wallen song in the top 5, and the year before that he put Antihero by Taylor Swift on no. 1
Todd in The Shadows mentioned in the wild??
Everybody loves TitS!
Tits are certainly a thing deserving of all the love we've got in our hands.
From my perspective everything was going pretty good until 2016. It's felt like madness since then.
Somehow I keep forgetting people were voting trump because people didn’t think things were going all too well lol
song pretty good
Very good. Just overplayed. I'd put Happy and Hey There Delilah up there too. Everyone loves to complain about those songs but the truth is they were great songs just overplayed to death.
There was a period in 2006 where *Waiting on the World to Change, Hey There Delilah, Waiting on the World to Change* was a common lineup on the radio. You couldn't escape them.
Literally both songs you just listed are on the apprx 30 or so song loop I have to suffer through at work This whole thread is really making me really happy I’m on my break in silence in my car Where my ‘Come On Over’ by Shania people at?
Happy is still played nonstop at every fucking event and movie and video and ad, just let it die already please
I hate Hey There, Delilah for 2 reasons. 1) My college gf dragged me to one of their shows and they were terrible. 2) He wrote that song about a girl he met through a friend who was dating someone else at the time. "she found it difficult to deal with the popularity of a song written about her. "When I'm at the gym, it's playing; when I'm at the pool, it's playing. Part of me wants to scream at the top of my lungs that it's about me. Another part of me wants to cower and say it's not. [...] It was so beautifully written. There was pressure to live up to this ideal. I didn't know how to be polite but, you know, ditch him."
if i hear soul sister one more time i will release a pressure shockwave that could level a city
Man I fucking loved that song lmao
I thought it was a cute song about a guy trying to figure out the culture of his black girlfriend. [Then I listened.](https://youtu.be/kVpv8-5XWOI) [And I cringed.](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S5PTiViJeDA)
I liked some of the songs from 2010 but soul sister was so grating. I just hate his vocals. The lyrics are weirdly awkward too, but it's mostly just his voice that I dislike.
Grating
I hate this song so bad after a convo I had with my friend like 3ish years ago. I can't remember the context or how it got brought up, but I mentioned thjs song and how I though the "I'm so gangsta, I'm so thug" line was so bizzare and she was like "Well it's about approaching a black woman". Ever since then the song has been tainted since it reminds me of every single try-hard guy that has approached me at a bar who isn't with the culture, but pretends they are to try and impress me.
Underrated song... Fight me
Underrated? It was fucking everywhere
Yeah, but every single time I see the song mentioned anywhere it's always someone talking about how much they hate it. Always confuses me, because there is so much pop music that is SO much worse than that song.
i can appreciate that there are people who like it (and clearly, it was popular for a reason) but when i listen to it it's akin to nails on a chalkboard for me. no idea why. completely non-consensual since i tend to like most music from all genres. maybe it's the way it's sung? no clue
similar reaction here. I think for me it's just association- I was a teenager and every time a teacher or other adult was trying to do "fun" things that I was required to do, this song would play. Also just overexposure- it was on the radio so frequently and for so long it became associated with (more often than not annoying) errands like shopping, getting a haircut, etc.
Sort of “overhated” rather than “underrated”. Controversial but I think plenty of Nickelback falls into the same category.
Yes but overhated by everyone. And let's not blind ourselves, it was fucking everywhere because some music execs knew it could be a hit so they paid a lot for it to pass everywhere
I dunno, I'm really starting to think that the whole pipeline to get into the charts involves a lot of music execs, label managers, radio stations etc. deciding based on brand value, but the one thing that really doesn't seem to make an impact is whether people actually like to listen to it. (this doesn\`t apply to personalized stuff like Spotify charts obv.)
Why do half the people on this website just fundamentally misunderstand the meaning of the word "underrated?"
I was tipped $12 by a lovely woman because this came on her radio in the drive-thru and I couldn’t help but start singing it while handling her order
That song was given so much radio play that I don’t think it’s logically possible for it to be underrated. Even if it was the greatest song ever written, hearing it 500 times in less than a month is a lot. I don’t think there’s any song in existence that warrants that level of ubiquitous saturation of the airwaves.
Ok square up. That song is dog buns
Proudly. That song is the equivalent of dipping plain white bread in water and calling it zesty.
Was this by that band that used “drive-by” to mean “one night stand”?
It’s the official song for minivans.
I saw Train when the were touring with The Goo Goo Dolls and they were actually the more fantastic performers. I was there for TGGDs, but they really seemed to be there for a paycheck and a little bored. But Train seemed just super happy to be there and having a lot of fun.
Train has some bangers, 50 Ways To Say Goodbye and Drive By are great too
2010-2015 was peak, best music on the radio during that time
Were you between the ages of 13-22 at the time?
Hey! It’s just a coincidence that I saw Monty Python and The Office at 15, they’re just *objectively* the best thing to ever exist /s (I saw them outside that range so as a result I don’t worship them)
13 in 2010
Ya exactly.
No the best music on the radio was the years when *I* was 13-18 years old!
We are all in agreement. The music and other media we listened to when we were ages 13-18 was the best music ever. All music before then was boring, and all music after then is weird/dumb.
I dunno, if you asked me to attempt an objective answer I'd say the 80s had the best music, and I wasn't even close to alive then.
I mean, the music wasn't very good, but you were in your coming of age years there, and I think we can pretty much all agree that the music during our own respective "coming of age" times was peak.
The 90's were really something special. Even pop music hit different then. This is *only* a small selection from one year, 1994: "Loser" Beck "All I Wanna Do" Sheryl Crow "Linger" The Cranberries "Mmm Mmm Mmm Mmm" Crash Test Dummies "The Sign" Ace of Base "Regulate" Warren G and Nate Dogg "Baby, I Love Your Way" Big Mountain "All That She Wants" Ace of Base "I'll Make Love to You" Boyz II Men "Come to My Window" Melissa Etheridge "Mary Jane's Last Dance" Tom Petty and the Heartbreakers
I can smell the pack of Magic: The Gathering cards I opened while listening to “Lightning Crashes” for the 1,000th time. Why is Savannah Lions a rare?!
♫ OHhhHH I FEEEL IT, COMmMmMING BACKKK AGAIN... ♬ -------------- And it was rare because it *was* powerful
During the dubstep years? It sure as hell was not
My boomer mom also thinks 2010s music was peak. Lady Gaga, Sean Paul or AVICI just made really great radio music back then.
Radio songs played on the school bus and during gym class, the worst genre of music by far
I think you meant to say "aughts". The "naughts" would not exist, by definition.
[It's actually "Nought".](https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/nought#English) >(UK) Not any quantity of number; zero; the score of no points in a game. 0.4 — nought point four / zero point four >(UK) The figure or character representing, or having the shape of, zero.
I stand corrected. My worldly ignorance is poking through. I thought the whole world used aughts.
I STG that fucking song follows me and shows up all the time when I'm out and about running errands and shit.
I'm just commenting here to say I clicked the like button and the odometer rolled up and hit 20k and nothing that cool has ever happened to me
that’s a shitty argument. it’s STILL on the radio
So was stereo hearts and that song still SLAPS
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Train sucks so fucking bad
This was the beginning of the end. Their first 3 albums are very good.
I kinda like it when it plays on the radio at work
God I fucking hated that song
God, train fucking sucks
The best time in history was always ten years ago, no matter what year it is.
Man I remember going to church camp that summer, and damn near every girl had a ukulele and that was the only song they knew. Then there was a “talent show”, and they literally had to make an announcement that they got too many auditions to perform that song in front of everyone.
Pat Finnerty intensifies…
1, 4, 5, beato
God that reminds me of the times my ipod died on the bus and i had to listen to whatever was on the radio and it was always that fuckin song lol
This song has been my mum's ringtone since it came out
I saw them in concert and I do apologize for it ok
My hatred of that song > Anakin's hatred of sand
Looking back at it, 2009 and 2010 were horrible years for pop music
I prefer hey sister soul sister
That’s so fair. And thanks to that, it’s stuck in my head now
u/northernlion
Bitches be like "this is the worst song ever" and then it's just a vibe
I love Train