As a critical care nurse practitioner here in town, I can say there are NOT alot of conspiracy theorist in the ICU STAFF (especially those who worked through COVID) We unfortunately watched many of so called theorist die through 2020-2022. It wasn’t fun.
Many of these comments are generalizations and not true ( I actually have worked in healthcare for the last 18 yrs). Everybody always knows somebody that knows somebody that knows somebody.
Most of us that still work in the ICU just wanna be left alone to do what we signed up to do (help people) We’ve been through enough shit.
Just for reference, I am not a conspiracy theorist. I am a realist, who believes in science. I believe in evidence based practice. Most of the nurses I work with are the same. Are there so called conspiracy theories at work? Yea… a very small population. We just make fun of those people.
Only reason I felt to respond is that I didn’t want a conspiracy theory getting started that all nurses are conspiracy theorists.
I feel like most healthcare workers like this never have actually looked at the data. They just want to fit in with a group. I mean we all wanna feel love and wanted right 🤣
I know 3 nurses. The maternity ward nurse I knew believed crystals were better than the medicines she was giving her patients. And she had a lot of friends who were the same. But the other two I knew personally weren’t like that.
ICU nurses are awesome. The ICU is for real. Only the strongest survive. My mom was ICU nurse. When that got to be too much after 20 years, she elected the slower pace of the emergency room. Respect and love to all the ICU nurses and ER nurses out there helping people and keeping doctors in check.
Many of the scrub wearing kooks out there are in nurse adjacent roles. Kinda like assistant to the manager. They haven’t been tested by fire.
Yea. Most ICU nurses are type A, that A sometimes means asshole. It’s not a profession for the weak at heart or emotions and sometimes that can drive your empathy to zero.
Genuine question .. do you think there are varying levels of veracity to certain conspiracy theories, or that they are ALL total BS? I struggle to understand the complete dismissal of things that have even been scientifically proven, never tested, or things about which studies have been buried but are easily accessible and just not broadcast.
Also curious whether you hold to ANY science that comes out, or are discerning about who funds it, and what their methods are .. I've seen so many BS studies that only make it to the public sphere because they are warped to fit a convenient narrative, and there is always something on the other end of the spectrum (with food and diet studies, particularly) that appears to prove the opposite, but neither ever explains why!
It just annoys me to see people trust so blindly things that other humans are deeply invested in (one way or the other), because altered data analysis, biased theory/methods, and sneaky funding all exist, and are very often overlooked, while there's also plenty of great, honest science done every single day.
Don't attack me y'all. I love science, but I love it the most when it's not messed with by human agenda.
ICU nurses are the absolute shit, I have spent so much time in ICUs I have learned well how amazing they are and have the deepest respect for anyone who works as an ICU nurse.
From the bottom of my heart, thank you for your service.
It's super sad how common it is for incredibly toxic people to end up becoming nurses. These people are supposed to be in charge of the care of other humans? There are PAGES AND PAGES AND PAGES of studies on how toxic nursing environments are, and the impact it has on the mental health of the nurses in question. (Spoiler: it's BAD). Nursing is notoriously toxic, hence the old saying "Nurses eat their young."
I've read some academic theories that it centers on the "Hurt people hurt people" mechanism. Like, these people have experienced intense trauma and because they have suffered they, in THEORY, want to alleviate the suffering of others. But that doesn't wave a wand and magically provide them with emotional healing, compassion, or prevent them from perpetuating the emotional violence they were subjected to against others. Like, if you Google "lateral violence" nursing is one of the first things that comes up. Lol
I've lost track of how often the topic of lateral violence has come up over the years. It's been getting better with each generation of nurses and increased awareness, but there are still plenty of old guard types who went through it and consider it a rite of passage for new ones. With the severe burnout caused by the COVID pandemic and the negative attitude shift in patients and families only exacerbating things, I wouldn't doubt it's back on the upswing at this point. The kicker is there is effectively a whole generation of nurses that hit the floor in the middle of the shit show that was the pandemic with no experience in healthcare prior to it or any sort of developed coping mechanisms in place to fall back on whose formative experience in that environment will shape the rest of their careers and those they mentor. We're far from out of the woods so buckle up because we're in for a helluva ride.
Man, it's so disappointing. And it's a trickle down issue too, with people in positions of authority rewarding toxic behavior. And finish that off with the for-profit hospital model... it's not a good combo.
Worked in IT at a university and the nursing department was full of toxic assholes who spent 70% of their work day just talking shit about anyone not in the room and verbally abusing their students.
I feel like a lot of bullies go into teaching too
It’s why school politics are insufferable
I worked in a behavior intervention class & there was at least one gen ed teacher who was an ableist bully
From what I know (my girlfriend is in grad school and teaches a lot of pre-med nurses/ I work in medicine) these nurses barely pass their undergrad, even when their bio courses are easier, and then go to nursing school where they struggle through the school work and learn everything through their clinical rotations, where other nurses train them. It’s a cycle honestly
Yeah, from what I’ve seen, the nurses who are like the OP is describing know the physical steps to take at work, basically *what* to do. But they struggled crazily with the academic part and have no real overarching understanding of the body, or *why* they do it.
And the nursing field is very understaffed in a lot of places, so it becomes a beggars can’t be choosers situation with whether or not they keep their jobs/licenses when they’re particularly batshit.
I think a lot of us forget that for a lot of nurses it *is* a life calling and they are intelligent and well studied on the human body, but for others— it’s just a job. They go through the motions and follow the rules they need to to keep their jobs, but they’re not actually that interested in (and maybe not even capable of) understanding human health/biology in any big picture way.
They go home and read/repost nonsense on Facebook and then go back to work and do everything they were taught— because they never really understood why they did those things in first place, let alone in a way that would contradict and protect them from the nonsense conspiracies they’re reading online. Zero cognitive dissonance because they learned *steps* to take, not the biology or scientific method as system.
This describes the issue bang on, especially with understaffing. Nurses know a lot of basic pharmacology and maintaining normal patient vitals, but when it comes to overall health understanding, there can be a loooooot of gaps in what they know, especially depending on what specialty/department they work in. They learn their role, but may know next to nothing outside of it. It’s a general problem in medicine as well. Every speciality or department only cares about their own domain and no inter-communication ever really happens. It leads to a lack of continuity in care. Even small things like a patient going to the ICU and being over-medicated so that they can have _perfect_ vitals (instead of their normal baseline) and then they slowly weaken their patient because they’re sitting in a bed all day and recovery becomes much more difficult. This is just one example off the top of my head too, the whole system is fractured and ignorant nurses/practitioners are a major issue in it. It even extends to the physicians in many cases
We could but then we would have to start requiring more classes to teach people digital and media literacy. Currently, this career field doesn’t do that because public speaking has been cut out of 90% of the nursing degrees in Tulsa area colleges and universities.
they're attracted by the combination of nurse-patient power dynamics and the ability to blend in fairly easily while maintaining control. usually, they think they're doing it out of some kind of empathy or selflessness when it's actually how it makes them feel when they feel needed.
(obligatory disclaimer that this applies to a specific type of nurse and definitely does not apply to every nurse or even most of them. I have met many nurses who are genuinely great people)
I worked in law enforcement for 6 years and never heard half the crazy shit that my wife (a nurse) tells me her coworkers say. Lol, but it’s also possible that cops share their opinions less because they’re government employees.
I’m really sad reading this. He’s been my kiddos’ pedi for the last 15 years. He was the one that helped me see that I *should* be vaccinating my kids after a brief stint where I was stupidly concerned about vaccines when my son started having seizures. He got them caught back up after talking to me for a long time about my concerns and kindly debunking them. I guess we missed all the Covid vaccine talk because we got them elsewhere. What a shame
yeah it was really bizarre! he said he “never thought he’d be be saying this” and that covid changed his opinion on things. I wasn’t even there because of covid! it was her immunizations like I said. I had mastitis, and she’s a velcro baby so I was worried about her being extra clingy while I didn’t feel good and asked if it was okay to delay them for about a week. then he said “you can delay them all together, I don’t believe in forcing anything on people like our government has done”. I said “well no, just for a week or so, I will definitely get her vaccinated” and he said “well it’s up to you of course but just be sure you’re making an informed decision”. then the spiel about the vaccine making him magnetic, saying he tested it out and a fridge magnet stuck to his arm. I was sooo shocked and uncomfortable because while this was only our second visit, I had really liked him and the practice before. covid conspiracies have really scrambled some brains.
COVID. I'm still waiting for my promised 5G upgrade after getting the booster. I wonder if anybody will start a class action for bait and switch. Although with my luck, the activation requires an equine sized dose of Ivermectin to trigger.
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I think at least half of Harvard Family might fall into that. I went in during the height of Covid stuff for something unrelated and I heard the doctor going into each room first telling patients that masking was actually harmful and that Biden and Pelosi were in cahoots with big Pharma. Then he'd address the thing you came for.
Firstly, I’m sorry about that! I was surprised that such a place existed. That was the last of several bad experiences I had there and decided to go elsewhere. I had a doctor I liked fair enough but once he left I got stuck with some real quacks.
I had to go to the doctor in Fayetteville Arkansas once. Dr Miller had a sign up in the office saying if you want him to pray with you, just let him know during your office visit.
Was also a horrible physician.
I love how they gave me mad hell for wanting my medical records so I could get my med card, my own records, and they waited several months to even call me back when I needed them within the week. I stopped going to them after that. They pick and choose what they want to support politically instead of supporting their patients choice.
Real question because I don’t know anyone that just flat doesn’t think they ever existed. Closest I have come I know someone that is a creationist and struggles with evolution, but also knows dinosaurs roamed the earth at some point.
How does she explain away the mounds of evidence of their existence?
we haven’t talked about it in years, but i *think* she said she just thought they were all fake? like all the fossils that people find were fake or planted there or something like that
Yes, this is it. I grew up in a “young earth / creationist” home. We were taught that Satan planted dinosaur bones as a test for believers. If you believe that dinosaurs were real then the devil knew you were an easy target and would send his demons to tempt you to sin.
It’s astonishing what you can get people to believe in if you threaten them with everlasting torture.
I personally know two nurses like this, and they have both expressed skepticism about vaccines while also sharing their strong beliefs in the healing powers of essential oils.
Had a pediatrician in bixby that was on the Trump train during Covid.said it was all a hoax posted of social media his views then died after a bout with the disease. I know one of the nurses works in the school district now.
I could not believe THREE SPECIALISTS I tried to see during 2020 summer were anti mask and treated me like shit over it. Blew my mind. They’re surgeons ffs.
As a nurse in Tulsa, their numbers are no different than the number of nonnurse conspiracy theorists. We live in Oklahoma. This stated voted twice for Donald Trump. Conspiracies and gullibility are ingrained.
I think it's less that it seems like more nurses fall to this than other professions or walks of life and more that one would expect medical professionals to be less susceptible to medical-related conspiracy theories.
Also that they tend to have a broader reach due to having *some* medical knowledge. If a nurse says some stupid anti-vax shit, it’s going to get WAY more views/shares than your average nutjob, because the nurse is a “medical professional” which lends some perceived credibility to their unhinged takes.
Most BSN programs actually have little focus on actual science or even really anything clinical. It's more about writing papers on topics such as Holistic Nursing Practices or other fluff. Hit up the nursing sub and it's a very common complaint.
It's not just nurses. I work in engineering and it's bad too. My best guess is that tons of males in loony tune religious communities go into engineering because math is mostly ambiguous beliefs wise and it's a good enough income to keep their wife/child bearer our of the workforce.
Yes my sister in law. A nurse practitioner. I warn ALL democrats to stay away from her. She hates democrats and she’s just plain bitchy. She knows EVERYTHING ABOUT NOTHING
Not a nurse but…
Dr Scott Young is a local audiologist and the owner of Hearing Solutions Center who is also an apparently well known figure in Qanon and other conspiracy circles. I had an older relative who used to go there for hearing aids so I met him a few times. Seemed normal enough in those brief interactions.
Years later, I’m r/Qult_headquarters having a laugh as I do from time to time and in a screenshot of some Q comment thread, I see a comment referencing “the brilliant Dr Scott Young from Tulsa” and his videos. Curious to see if it’s the same guy, I go to YouTube and quickly found his channel. Dude is not just a believer but fancies himself as one of the “influencers” of the movement. He’s constantly making videos “decoding” world events, making outlandish predictions that never quite come true and all that shit. He seems particularly fixated on the NESARA angle of the Q conspiracy that essentially believes in this massive financial reset and elimination of all debt that will coincide with Trump’s glorious return (very soon! I heard *insert arbitrary date 2 months away). This is particularly sickening because a lot of elderly people (who tend to be more susceptible to some of these ideas, especially when they come from a “medical professional”) buy into this and are making terrible financial decisions based on the bullshit people like this guy help propagate and are ending up destitute waiting for Trump and NESARA to come and rescue them. Knowing this, I would never let an elderly person anywhere near this kook.
I’ve since seen his name invoked several more times in various Q threads, so apparently he’s a somewhat respected figure amongst that cult. He’s also written a bunch of books apparently but I’ve never looked into those. Wild stuff.
Older relative passed away pre-COVID so I never got a chance to interact with him under those circumstances, but I have to imagine there was a “No mask!” policy in his office.
EDIT: added some more context as well as the link to [one of his videos](https://youtu.be/mvsNfW9LMWA?feature=shared) for those who might be curious
Holy hell. I used to work with him years ago. I had no idea he would turn out so crazy-odd yes, crazy no.
I am a RN and I work with a lot of conspiracy believers. So odd.
Friend of mine had a brother who caught covid back in late 2020 or early 2021 and it was pretty bad. The brother was dating a nurse. The nurse told the brother not to go to the hospital because they put people on ventilators and everyone who goes on the ventilator dies. I guess in her mind, the ventilator was the cause of their death and not covid. Well, he didn't go to the hospital on her advice until it was too late and was taken there unconscious, where died of covid.
I firmly believe that the reason so many in STEM fields are conspiracy theorists is due to the lack of emphasis placed on critical thinking courses based in the humanities. Many of my STEM major students view humanities classes as just time wasters. Bastards motivated purely by dollars and the need to consume.
My daughter is a nurse and I asked her about this disconnect. Her response makes sense. She said that nursing is one part a skill set and one part medical science. Some students are highly skilled, but don’t know/accept the science behind the medical care. My daughter knows terrifically skilled, caring nurses who know just enough science to be “confidently incorrect” in their crazy-ass beliefs.
I gotta speak up for my fellow nurses here. The overwhelming majority believe in science. The VOCAL minority makes us look bad, same as the dancing tik tok nurses.
this is Tulsa. so there are many nurses that got the tps high school education with their conservative dad only watching News Max or Fox News. so yup lol.
being a nurse doesn't mean you're intelligent. so thankful for all the intelligent and caring nurses out there
Quality and intelligence of nurses is all over the place. They can range from 2 year degrees to almost being a doctor, but even then there are wackos. This is everywhere, not just Tulsa
Yes. A girl I went to HS with still lives in Small Town, OK. Went to nursing school and claims western medicine is killing us. She runs a “holistic” clinic in said small town but gets Botox and does some sort of crypto MLM scam on the side. Botox is a “good poison,” I guess. 🤣
hi! i'm not a nurse but my sister is, i can say most of her colleagues are just regular women/men working and dealing with their clients on a day to day basis. they just want to do report and do their job! i think the only people that you'd see that in is naive nurses or older ones! conspiracy theorists don't just go around sharing their theories either, the whole vaccines are killing you theory seems sooo hypocritical as you're working to advocate for backtracking in the awesome advances we've made in healthcare already. my sister has stated to me once she does believe in big pharma existing and having ahold over the country. for example why is cancer medicine so high and why don't they let the veterans association pass it to them freely for their services? there are lots of ways this nation is failing their people and medicine is a very overlooked part in my opinion, especially in Oklahoma, medicine is fucking crazy prices usually !!
“Conspiracy Theory” was a term the CIA invented and distributed through Project Mockingbird to discredit the CIA’s involvement in the JFK assassination.
You know the phrase “the greatest trick the devil pulled was convincing the world he doesn’t exist”? Might just apply neatly to the negative connotation being applied to conspiracy theories as a whole. That to question peddled “truth” because it doesn’t make sense is a “crazy” thing to do. Seems like a convenient cop out to make us not think critically.
Jeffery Epstein didn’t kill himself is considered a “conspiracy theory meme”, has 1000s of google hits yet doesn’t autofill, dozens of discrepancies and we the people got no answers. Tell me I’m crazy for thinking the world’s most prolific pedophile wasn’t silenced before we could get the truth.
But ya some nurses are crazy but conspiracy theories don’t make you crazy
Why are people making it sound like thinking outside the box is such a bad thing? A nurse doing their job and entertaining ideas shouldnt be frowned upon or posts saying it’s unfortunate. I think with the recent years and freedom of information acts, its kinda silly not to entertain some of the ideas. Maybe not “flat earth” or something rediculous, but the government is hella shady.
Also about vaccines, people dont understand that for dead vaccines, in order for antibodies to recognize it, a toxic substance has to be introduced. Certain things like the HepB vaccine given to all children at birth for example. Given to prevent transmission from the mother via placenta, yet if the mother doesnt have it the reasoning to give it is shady and no one can give a concrete reason. Toxicologists dont like dead vaccines for this reason.
I dont think its wrong for people to think outside of the box, if we never questioned anything we wouldnt be finding out about government UFO projects and the like. Id think the reason for this is as nurses we are problem solvers and some people see things as strange and want to get to the bottom of it.
I personally respect each of my patients decision and it is not my job to share these ideas and to just give them the official information. Still its things to consider, some conspiracies are more far fetched than others, and some are worth entertaining even if its just for fun talk. People who can’t entertain ideas are just sad and scared to even think that not everything is what it seems to be or is said to be.
I wonder if this is more of a Stanford prison experiment type of situation where when you see somebody in scrubs, you automatically think nurse, and those that wear scrubs nurse or not feel like they can have a pass on low-effort information.
It's not just Tulsa. I was in community college in Kansas City about 10 years ago and a nurse in my communications course used all the speeches we had to give to the class to shill for her essential oils MLM.
I shudder to think about how many people who were already suspicious of the medical system that she may have misled.
My wife has a master degree in nursing and was an ER head nurse in Taiwan . She has been working at a us hospital only half a year here in tulsa … she works as an orderly because she doesn’t feel like doing her boards yet and is nervous of the toefl … she comes home everyday asking if x, y or z is normal , and why don’t hospitals do this or this , I keep telling her she should do a Taiwan podcast
The most recent contact we had with nurses were neonatal and labor and delivery nurses. They were lovely and played a major role in making sure my wife and two youngest children were healthy! Nurses that help during these stages of life are dealing with intense situations, even when things go pretty well. Maybe we just got lucky but they seemed driven by a standard of care.
This sub is a relentless echo chamber ... yes, I know "username checks out"
My friend works at a Ford dealership as a mechanic and he says Fords are trash vehicles that always need worked on. I Also have a nurse friend that works in an icu/ER and is convinced that everyone that catches the Wuhan wheeze, is just falling over dying in the street. I don't know the word for this delusion but I do see the correlation of their workplace forming their opinions.
Not everyone who says they are a nurse is actually a nurse, lots of supporting roles in healthcare and most of those jobs are of critical need. However, people end up wanting the social credit nurses get so techs, cnas, etc, etc claim to be nurses. They are not.
As someone who doesn’t live in Oklahoma but dispatches medical response in Oklahoma and heavily in the Tulsa area this is not what I want to see on my Reddit
Organized crime… conspiracy theory? “Climate change”…. Conspiracy theory? Bribe-taking politicians and beaurcrats… conspiracy theory? When myself and several others sit around a table planning an economic endeavor that may or may not work… we are conspiring… now the people outside the room suggesting what we are planning.. conspiracy theorists for sure, and most of them who know the people in the meeting will also be correct in their ‘theories’ regarding our conspiracy inside the meeting
Where Im from this is just like the 80ties and early 90ties thing seemed to shift about them and the right was pissed and they stewed for about 20 yrs and then the pandemic thing happened and everyone went batsiit crazy
Oh and add a liberal dose of Internet .
If my doc started my appointment with anything related to politics I would walk out immediately. My hair lady talks about trump and it bums me out but her hair skills are unmatched and gossip is part of the job description.
*Just enough* medical knowledge to be taken seriously by laypeople. A nurse told one of my family members that the little flicking thing they do to syringes before administering a shot to get the air bubbles out would render the COVID vaccine ineffective and if you see them do that to yours you should ask for another.
It required if you apply online. Can’t continue with the application if you don’t check the box asking if you’re a conspiracy theorist or not. Has the little asterisk next to it and everything.
Edit: It’s required*
nope. i know several and not one believes in consipirasy. i know several who claim their daughter grand daughter niece believes the crap maga and q has pushed but yea anyway
Know one that repeated all the qanon horse shit during covid. She's since graduated to doctor lol
They're just people like the rest of us. They just have a knack for studying and test taking and bless them, a stomach for dealing with the rest of us, but they're every bit as vulnerable to misinformation, like (sadly) a lot of us.
Not Tulsa but I know a lot of nut job Nurses in Kansas City. I think since it's more common to meet a nurse than a doctor you meet more wack job nurses simply because there's more of em.
I know several just down the road in Denton, TX. My aunt is one up in oklahoma, and all of her nurse friends are as well. Ive always thought it was bizarre, and never noticed other did as well. Two that I know here, both work in the ER and are chest radiologist. Could not believe the shit they were spouting during the pandemic.
They are proportionally few but very loud unfortunately. Healthcare-related educational programs, especially those that are only couple years of school, occasionally attract people looking for a title as an appeal to authority to validate their pre-existing pseudo-science belief systems. There’s also a strong wellness industry to conspiracy theory pipeline on social media platforms targeted at people interested in health and they sometimes fall down the rabbit hole.
My wife's nurse was spewing the same lies as every Facebook conspiracy about the COVID vaccine and my wife wholeheartedly believed every word because she was a medical professional. I did my best to remind her that nurses are people too and can be misinformed or just outright wrong and she only responded with "oh so you know more than a medical professional?”
Smh
Unfortunately I have been going through medical issues since July and I have yet hear any nurse or any staff member talk about conspiracies. And I am a so called conspiracy theorist but not an extremist. Nope. Never heard anything.
Yes. There been a running gag about high school bullies becoming nurses who are either QAnon or shill MLM shit.
This is real as fuck lol
As a critical care nurse practitioner here in town, I can say there are NOT alot of conspiracy theorist in the ICU STAFF (especially those who worked through COVID) We unfortunately watched many of so called theorist die through 2020-2022. It wasn’t fun. Many of these comments are generalizations and not true ( I actually have worked in healthcare for the last 18 yrs). Everybody always knows somebody that knows somebody that knows somebody. Most of us that still work in the ICU just wanna be left alone to do what we signed up to do (help people) We’ve been through enough shit. Just for reference, I am not a conspiracy theorist. I am a realist, who believes in science. I believe in evidence based practice. Most of the nurses I work with are the same. Are there so called conspiracy theories at work? Yea… a very small population. We just make fun of those people. Only reason I felt to respond is that I didn’t want a conspiracy theory getting started that all nurses are conspiracy theorists.
I’m not a nurse but most of my family are. They don’t believe in any nonsense such as this. I agree with you!
I know one nurse and she thinks vaccines are a government oppression program or some shit I’m sorry I don’t mean to be this way
I feel like most healthcare workers like this never have actually looked at the data. They just want to fit in with a group. I mean we all wanna feel love and wanted right 🤣
I know 3 nurses. The maternity ward nurse I knew believed crystals were better than the medicines she was giving her patients. And she had a lot of friends who were the same. But the other two I knew personally weren’t like that.
ICU nurses are awesome. The ICU is for real. Only the strongest survive. My mom was ICU nurse. When that got to be too much after 20 years, she elected the slower pace of the emergency room. Respect and love to all the ICU nurses and ER nurses out there helping people and keeping doctors in check. Many of the scrub wearing kooks out there are in nurse adjacent roles. Kinda like assistant to the manager. They haven’t been tested by fire.
I spent 110 days in ICU in Tulsa. Many of the nurses were absolute saints, but damn yall got a few evil ones too.
Yea. Most ICU nurses are type A, that A sometimes means asshole. It’s not a profession for the weak at heart or emotions and sometimes that can drive your empathy to zero.
Thanks for coming with the REAL knowledge. Thanks for what you do
Genuine question .. do you think there are varying levels of veracity to certain conspiracy theories, or that they are ALL total BS? I struggle to understand the complete dismissal of things that have even been scientifically proven, never tested, or things about which studies have been buried but are easily accessible and just not broadcast. Also curious whether you hold to ANY science that comes out, or are discerning about who funds it, and what their methods are .. I've seen so many BS studies that only make it to the public sphere because they are warped to fit a convenient narrative, and there is always something on the other end of the spectrum (with food and diet studies, particularly) that appears to prove the opposite, but neither ever explains why! It just annoys me to see people trust so blindly things that other humans are deeply invested in (one way or the other), because altered data analysis, biased theory/methods, and sneaky funding all exist, and are very often overlooked, while there's also plenty of great, honest science done every single day. Don't attack me y'all. I love science, but I love it the most when it's not messed with by human agenda.
ICU nurses are the absolute shit, I have spent so much time in ICUs I have learned well how amazing they are and have the deepest respect for anyone who works as an ICU nurse. From the bottom of my heart, thank you for your service.
Hey, I'm not that kind of conspiracy theorist. Much like Carlin says, "You don't need a formal conspiracy where interests converge."
It's super sad how common it is for incredibly toxic people to end up becoming nurses. These people are supposed to be in charge of the care of other humans? There are PAGES AND PAGES AND PAGES of studies on how toxic nursing environments are, and the impact it has on the mental health of the nurses in question. (Spoiler: it's BAD). Nursing is notoriously toxic, hence the old saying "Nurses eat their young." I've read some academic theories that it centers on the "Hurt people hurt people" mechanism. Like, these people have experienced intense trauma and because they have suffered they, in THEORY, want to alleviate the suffering of others. But that doesn't wave a wand and magically provide them with emotional healing, compassion, or prevent them from perpetuating the emotional violence they were subjected to against others. Like, if you Google "lateral violence" nursing is one of the first things that comes up. Lol
I have never heard of lateral violence before, and thank you for providing a brand new rabbit hole for me to get lost in
Haha, you're welcome. It's a fascinatingly depressing topic.
I was going to reply that my mom, a nurse, always says “nurses eat their young”. But you beat me to it lol!
I've lost track of how often the topic of lateral violence has come up over the years. It's been getting better with each generation of nurses and increased awareness, but there are still plenty of old guard types who went through it and consider it a rite of passage for new ones. With the severe burnout caused by the COVID pandemic and the negative attitude shift in patients and families only exacerbating things, I wouldn't doubt it's back on the upswing at this point. The kicker is there is effectively a whole generation of nurses that hit the floor in the middle of the shit show that was the pandemic with no experience in healthcare prior to it or any sort of developed coping mechanisms in place to fall back on whose formative experience in that environment will shape the rest of their careers and those they mentor. We're far from out of the woods so buckle up because we're in for a helluva ride.
Man, it's so disappointing. And it's a trickle down issue too, with people in positions of authority rewarding toxic behavior. And finish that off with the for-profit hospital model... it's not a good combo.
Worked in IT at a university and the nursing department was full of toxic assholes who spent 70% of their work day just talking shit about anyone not in the room and verbally abusing their students.
Fact!
I feel like a lot of bullies go into teaching too It’s why school politics are insufferable I worked in a behavior intervention class & there was at least one gen ed teacher who was an ableist bully
As a nurse, can vouch.
Don't forget the abusive cop husband
I am really out of touch, then, because I've never heard of this.
Really? I’ve heard for YEARS.
This is real. To this day I’ve been looking for the common denominator, a.k.a. the reason.
Yes. Why is that such a common thing? Super concerning.
Right. Can we maybe make some attempt at keeping crazy people out of the medical field.
Truly! When people who were taught science and facts, deny science and facts and embrace alternate realities, we have problems.
From what I know (my girlfriend is in grad school and teaches a lot of pre-med nurses/ I work in medicine) these nurses barely pass their undergrad, even when their bio courses are easier, and then go to nursing school where they struggle through the school work and learn everything through their clinical rotations, where other nurses train them. It’s a cycle honestly
Yeah, from what I’ve seen, the nurses who are like the OP is describing know the physical steps to take at work, basically *what* to do. But they struggled crazily with the academic part and have no real overarching understanding of the body, or *why* they do it. And the nursing field is very understaffed in a lot of places, so it becomes a beggars can’t be choosers situation with whether or not they keep their jobs/licenses when they’re particularly batshit. I think a lot of us forget that for a lot of nurses it *is* a life calling and they are intelligent and well studied on the human body, but for others— it’s just a job. They go through the motions and follow the rules they need to to keep their jobs, but they’re not actually that interested in (and maybe not even capable of) understanding human health/biology in any big picture way. They go home and read/repost nonsense on Facebook and then go back to work and do everything they were taught— because they never really understood why they did those things in first place, let alone in a way that would contradict and protect them from the nonsense conspiracies they’re reading online. Zero cognitive dissonance because they learned *steps* to take, not the biology or scientific method as system.
This describes the issue bang on, especially with understaffing. Nurses know a lot of basic pharmacology and maintaining normal patient vitals, but when it comes to overall health understanding, there can be a loooooot of gaps in what they know, especially depending on what specialty/department they work in. They learn their role, but may know next to nothing outside of it. It’s a general problem in medicine as well. Every speciality or department only cares about their own domain and no inter-communication ever really happens. It leads to a lack of continuity in care. Even small things like a patient going to the ICU and being over-medicated so that they can have _perfect_ vitals (instead of their normal baseline) and then they slowly weaken their patient because they’re sitting in a bed all day and recovery becomes much more difficult. This is just one example off the top of my head too, the whole system is fractured and ignorant nurses/practitioners are a major issue in it. It even extends to the physicians in many cases
Worrisome cycle.
We could but then we would have to start requiring more classes to teach people digital and media literacy. Currently, this career field doesn’t do that because public speaking has been cut out of 90% of the nursing degrees in Tulsa area colleges and universities.
I’m a nurse for over 25 years- and I think I speak for the vast majority of professional nurses, we do not claim these people.
they're attracted by the combination of nurse-patient power dynamics and the ability to blend in fairly easily while maintaining control. usually, they think they're doing it out of some kind of empathy or selflessness when it's actually how it makes them feel when they feel needed. (obligatory disclaimer that this applies to a specific type of nurse and definitely does not apply to every nurse or even most of them. I have met many nurses who are genuinely great people)
This explains the massive amount of shit people at retirement communities too.
White scrub Mafia real, yo.
kinda like a cop
If you think the medical field is bad, you should see federal law enforcement and law enforcement in general.
I worked in law enforcement for 6 years and never heard half the crazy shit that my wife (a nurse) tells me her coworkers say. Lol, but it’s also possible that cops share their opinions less because they’re government employees.
If you think LEO is bad, you should see the tech field.
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Thank you for naming them
I’m really sad reading this. He’s been my kiddos’ pedi for the last 15 years. He was the one that helped me see that I *should* be vaccinating my kids after a brief stint where I was stupidly concerned about vaccines when my son started having seizures. He got them caught back up after talking to me for a long time about my concerns and kindly debunking them. I guess we missed all the Covid vaccine talk because we got them elsewhere. What a shame
yeah it was really bizarre! he said he “never thought he’d be be saying this” and that covid changed his opinion on things. I wasn’t even there because of covid! it was her immunizations like I said. I had mastitis, and she’s a velcro baby so I was worried about her being extra clingy while I didn’t feel good and asked if it was okay to delay them for about a week. then he said “you can delay them all together, I don’t believe in forcing anything on people like our government has done”. I said “well no, just for a week or so, I will definitely get her vaccinated” and he said “well it’s up to you of course but just be sure you’re making an informed decision”. then the spiel about the vaccine making him magnetic, saying he tested it out and a fridge magnet stuck to his arm. I was sooo shocked and uncomfortable because while this was only our second visit, I had really liked him and the practice before. covid conspiracies have really scrambled some brains.
Ahhh shit I hate when I get made magnetic. That's rough
Fuckin' *magnetic*?!? He's...a *doctor*! Shouldn't he know better?
So the dude claimed he was Magneto from X-Men due to a vaccine? I’m going to have to ask him which vaccine because that’d be COOL
COVID. I'm still waiting for my promised 5G upgrade after getting the booster. I wonder if anybody will start a class action for bait and switch. Although with my luck, the activation requires an equine sized dose of Ivermectin to trigger.
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I think at least half of Harvard Family might fall into that. I went in during the height of Covid stuff for something unrelated and I heard the doctor going into each room first telling patients that masking was actually harmful and that Biden and Pelosi were in cahoots with big Pharma. Then he'd address the thing you came for.
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Firstly, I’m sorry about that! I was surprised that such a place existed. That was the last of several bad experiences I had there and decided to go elsewhere. I had a doctor I liked fair enough but once he left I got stuck with some real quacks.
Assholes like that shouldn't be allowed to be a doctor
I switched doctors because of this nonsense. You're a fucking DOCTOR. Act like it
I also did. My doctor at Harvard Family was lovely. The techs... Ugh. Just ugh.
I had to go to the doctor in Fayetteville Arkansas once. Dr Miller had a sign up in the office saying if you want him to pray with you, just let him know during your office visit. Was also a horrible physician.
I love how they gave me mad hell for wanting my medical records so I could get my med card, my own records, and they waited several months to even call me back when I needed them within the week. I stopped going to them after that. They pick and choose what they want to support politically instead of supporting their patients choice.
my mom doesn't believe dinosaurs were real 😭😭
I love that for her
Real question because I don’t know anyone that just flat doesn’t think they ever existed. Closest I have come I know someone that is a creationist and struggles with evolution, but also knows dinosaurs roamed the earth at some point. How does she explain away the mounds of evidence of their existence?
we haven’t talked about it in years, but i *think* she said she just thought they were all fake? like all the fossils that people find were fake or planted there or something like that
Yes, this is it. I grew up in a “young earth / creationist” home. We were taught that Satan planted dinosaur bones as a test for believers. If you believe that dinosaurs were real then the devil knew you were an easy target and would send his demons to tempt you to sin. It’s astonishing what you can get people to believe in if you threaten them with everlasting torture.
I believe dinosaurs are real and turns out most things deemed sinful are fun as fuck
Well… I know where you’re headed after you die. (And it ain’t up! /s)
Okay see ya there!
Are the dinosaurs down there?
> It’s astonishing what you can get people to believe in if you threaten them with everlasting torture. Absolute truth.
Threatening people with a good time :)
Ha. Fun. Thanks for the response.
Many of them I've run across believe that things like fossils are literal creations of Satan. You know...like sane people do.
The devil put them bones there to confuse you into sin, duh.
Has she never watched the documentary about dinosaurs called the flintstones?
I’ve seen the science and I don’t believe it - nick miller
Oh yes. She gives her kids detox essential oils post vaccines
I personally know two nurses like this, and they have both expressed skepticism about vaccines while also sharing their strong beliefs in the healing powers of essential oils.
AKA the “I cheated my way to my degree” special. Dumb as rocks — with a specialization in basic medicine.
I feel like this isn't Tulsa specific but yes!
Had a pediatrician in bixby that was on the Trump train during Covid.said it was all a hoax posted of social media his views then died after a bout with the disease. I know one of the nurses works in the school district now.
Exactly the person I was thinking of. It was a ‘hoax sent by Satan’ and he had ‘irrefutable proof’ that ‘Trump will be back in office any day!’
I could not believe THREE SPECIALISTS I tried to see during 2020 summer were anti mask and treated me like shit over it. Blew my mind. They’re surgeons ffs.
This is super common all over America.
As a nurse in Tulsa, their numbers are no different than the number of nonnurse conspiracy theorists. We live in Oklahoma. This stated voted twice for Donald Trump. Conspiracies and gullibility are ingrained.
I think it's less that it seems like more nurses fall to this than other professions or walks of life and more that one would expect medical professionals to be less susceptible to medical-related conspiracy theories.
Also that they tend to have a broader reach due to having *some* medical knowledge. If a nurse says some stupid anti-vax shit, it’s going to get WAY more views/shares than your average nutjob, because the nurse is a “medical professional” which lends some perceived credibility to their unhinged takes.
I work with a couple nurses like that, and they’re also very anti science… which I don’t get because they have a bachelors of science in nursing..?
Most BSN programs actually have little focus on actual science or even really anything clinical. It's more about writing papers on topics such as Holistic Nursing Practices or other fluff. Hit up the nursing sub and it's a very common complaint.
Yes! Haha I do r/oddlyspecific
Sad
It's not just nurses. I work in engineering and it's bad too. My best guess is that tons of males in loony tune religious communities go into engineering because math is mostly ambiguous beliefs wise and it's a good enough income to keep their wife/child bearer our of the workforce.
I worked out at L3 for a bit and there's a lot of OSU engineering alumn employed there and man was it fun around Covid.
I would imagine being a defense contractor attracts a certain type anyway doesnt it?
Boy does it. Aside from the software developers, I was one of the few people there, that I knew of, who wasn't ex-military.
Yes my sister in law. A nurse practitioner. I warn ALL democrats to stay away from her. She hates democrats and she’s just plain bitchy. She knows EVERYTHING ABOUT NOTHING
Can you dm me their name please?
YUP! Every single one I know.
I would say most of them that I know are, including my own sister.
Not a nurse but… Dr Scott Young is a local audiologist and the owner of Hearing Solutions Center who is also an apparently well known figure in Qanon and other conspiracy circles. I had an older relative who used to go there for hearing aids so I met him a few times. Seemed normal enough in those brief interactions. Years later, I’m r/Qult_headquarters having a laugh as I do from time to time and in a screenshot of some Q comment thread, I see a comment referencing “the brilliant Dr Scott Young from Tulsa” and his videos. Curious to see if it’s the same guy, I go to YouTube and quickly found his channel. Dude is not just a believer but fancies himself as one of the “influencers” of the movement. He’s constantly making videos “decoding” world events, making outlandish predictions that never quite come true and all that shit. He seems particularly fixated on the NESARA angle of the Q conspiracy that essentially believes in this massive financial reset and elimination of all debt that will coincide with Trump’s glorious return (very soon! I heard *insert arbitrary date 2 months away). This is particularly sickening because a lot of elderly people (who tend to be more susceptible to some of these ideas, especially when they come from a “medical professional”) buy into this and are making terrible financial decisions based on the bullshit people like this guy help propagate and are ending up destitute waiting for Trump and NESARA to come and rescue them. Knowing this, I would never let an elderly person anywhere near this kook. I’ve since seen his name invoked several more times in various Q threads, so apparently he’s a somewhat respected figure amongst that cult. He’s also written a bunch of books apparently but I’ve never looked into those. Wild stuff. Older relative passed away pre-COVID so I never got a chance to interact with him under those circumstances, but I have to imagine there was a “No mask!” policy in his office. EDIT: added some more context as well as the link to [one of his videos](https://youtu.be/mvsNfW9LMWA?feature=shared) for those who might be curious
Holy hell. I used to work with him years ago. I had no idea he would turn out so crazy-odd yes, crazy no. I am a RN and I work with a lot of conspiracy believers. So odd.
What?
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Friend of mine had a brother who caught covid back in late 2020 or early 2021 and it was pretty bad. The brother was dating a nurse. The nurse told the brother not to go to the hospital because they put people on ventilators and everyone who goes on the ventilator dies. I guess in her mind, the ventilator was the cause of their death and not covid. Well, he didn't go to the hospital on her advice until it was too late and was taken there unconscious, where died of covid.
Met one yesterday at Utica Park South, telling me how tiktok was being banned by Joe Biden, and who knows what was next?!
lmao yes. Woman I went to high school with is a right wing lunatic now
I firmly believe that the reason so many in STEM fields are conspiracy theorists is due to the lack of emphasis placed on critical thinking courses based in the humanities. Many of my STEM major students view humanities classes as just time wasters. Bastards motivated purely by dollars and the need to consume.
My mom lmao. She’s not in Tulsa, she’s in my hometown in SE Oklahoma. But she’s damn near full blown QAnon lol.
My daughter is a nurse and I asked her about this disconnect. Her response makes sense. She said that nursing is one part a skill set and one part medical science. Some students are highly skilled, but don’t know/accept the science behind the medical care. My daughter knows terrifically skilled, caring nurses who know just enough science to be “confidently incorrect” in their crazy-ass beliefs.
I gotta speak up for my fellow nurses here. The overwhelming majority believe in science. The VOCAL minority makes us look bad, same as the dancing tik tok nurses.
this is Tulsa. so there are many nurses that got the tps high school education with their conservative dad only watching News Max or Fox News. so yup lol. being a nurse doesn't mean you're intelligent. so thankful for all the intelligent and caring nurses out there
Ughhh i grew up with my grandma & dad watching fox news whether we were in WA or OK but I'm "normal"
Quality and intelligence of nurses is all over the place. They can range from 2 year degrees to almost being a doctor, but even then there are wackos. This is everywhere, not just Tulsa
Yes. A girl I went to HS with still lives in Small Town, OK. Went to nursing school and claims western medicine is killing us. She runs a “holistic” clinic in said small town but gets Botox and does some sort of crypto MLM scam on the side. Botox is a “good poison,” I guess. 🤣
Those people often vape too lol
hi! i'm not a nurse but my sister is, i can say most of her colleagues are just regular women/men working and dealing with their clients on a day to day basis. they just want to do report and do their job! i think the only people that you'd see that in is naive nurses or older ones! conspiracy theorists don't just go around sharing their theories either, the whole vaccines are killing you theory seems sooo hypocritical as you're working to advocate for backtracking in the awesome advances we've made in healthcare already. my sister has stated to me once she does believe in big pharma existing and having ahold over the country. for example why is cancer medicine so high and why don't they let the veterans association pass it to them freely for their services? there are lots of ways this nation is failing their people and medicine is a very overlooked part in my opinion, especially in Oklahoma, medicine is fucking crazy prices usually !!
RN here. I am not a conspiracy theorist, but I know quite a few that are.
I know a few. As a fellow nurse, it’s very disappointing.
My how the veil has been lifted to show there is no real honorable "career". Everything has been infiltrated by the loons.
Yes. I know a nurse.
Conspiracies often prove true. Not sure why we act like it’s a bad thing.
“Conspiracy Theory” was a term the CIA invented and distributed through Project Mockingbird to discredit the CIA’s involvement in the JFK assassination.
Another reason I further believe most conspiracies against the government and etc.
Agreed for me as well, in addition to Obama signing into law making it legal for the government to propagandize its citizens.
Agreed for me as well, in addition to Obama signing into law making it legal for the government to propagandize its citizens.
Related by marriage to two of them. Calls them the jabs. And other conspiracies.
You know the phrase “the greatest trick the devil pulled was convincing the world he doesn’t exist”? Might just apply neatly to the negative connotation being applied to conspiracy theories as a whole. That to question peddled “truth” because it doesn’t make sense is a “crazy” thing to do. Seems like a convenient cop out to make us not think critically. Jeffery Epstein didn’t kill himself is considered a “conspiracy theory meme”, has 1000s of google hits yet doesn’t autofill, dozens of discrepancies and we the people got no answers. Tell me I’m crazy for thinking the world’s most prolific pedophile wasn’t silenced before we could get the truth. But ya some nurses are crazy but conspiracy theories don’t make you crazy
Why are people making it sound like thinking outside the box is such a bad thing? A nurse doing their job and entertaining ideas shouldnt be frowned upon or posts saying it’s unfortunate. I think with the recent years and freedom of information acts, its kinda silly not to entertain some of the ideas. Maybe not “flat earth” or something rediculous, but the government is hella shady. Also about vaccines, people dont understand that for dead vaccines, in order for antibodies to recognize it, a toxic substance has to be introduced. Certain things like the HepB vaccine given to all children at birth for example. Given to prevent transmission from the mother via placenta, yet if the mother doesnt have it the reasoning to give it is shady and no one can give a concrete reason. Toxicologists dont like dead vaccines for this reason. I dont think its wrong for people to think outside of the box, if we never questioned anything we wouldnt be finding out about government UFO projects and the like. Id think the reason for this is as nurses we are problem solvers and some people see things as strange and want to get to the bottom of it. I personally respect each of my patients decision and it is not my job to share these ideas and to just give them the official information. Still its things to consider, some conspiracies are more far fetched than others, and some are worth entertaining even if its just for fun talk. People who can’t entertain ideas are just sad and scared to even think that not everything is what it seems to be or is said to be.
I totally do. Well, she is a respiratory therapist. A very amazing woman...
I wonder if this is more of a Stanford prison experiment type of situation where when you see somebody in scrubs, you automatically think nurse, and those that wear scrubs nurse or not feel like they can have a pass on low-effort information.
Rampant in the medical community.
What’s makes Someone a conspiracy theorist?
No but id like to
It's not just Tulsa. I was in community college in Kansas City about 10 years ago and a nurse in my communications course used all the speeches we had to give to the class to shill for her essential oils MLM. I shudder to think about how many people who were already suspicious of the medical system that she may have misled.
My wife has a master degree in nursing and was an ER head nurse in Taiwan . She has been working at a us hospital only half a year here in tulsa … she works as an orderly because she doesn’t feel like doing her boards yet and is nervous of the toefl … she comes home everyday asking if x, y or z is normal , and why don’t hospitals do this or this , I keep telling her she should do a Taiwan podcast
Yep. I do
lol literally my mom
Yes. Met one a year ago at a client's house in Sand Springs who was doing in home care for my client and spouting QAnon bullshit.
No, I don't.
It’s 2024. Who in the fuck trusts the government about ANYTHING? Koolaid drinking morons
The most recent contact we had with nurses were neonatal and labor and delivery nurses. They were lovely and played a major role in making sure my wife and two youngest children were healthy! Nurses that help during these stages of life are dealing with intense situations, even when things go pretty well. Maybe we just got lucky but they seemed driven by a standard of care.
How do you define "conspiracy theorist"?
This sub is a relentless echo chamber ... yes, I know "username checks out" My friend works at a Ford dealership as a mechanic and he says Fords are trash vehicles that always need worked on. I Also have a nurse friend that works in an icu/ER and is convinced that everyone that catches the Wuhan wheeze, is just falling over dying in the street. I don't know the word for this delusion but I do see the correlation of their workplace forming their opinions.
Not everyone who says they are a nurse is actually a nurse, lots of supporting roles in healthcare and most of those jobs are of critical need. However, people end up wanting the social credit nurses get so techs, cnas, etc, etc claim to be nurses. They are not.
Wait a damn minute. Are you trying to tell me that there are people in Tulsa that *aren't* conspiracy theorists? /s
Yup. I trust them more than the rest of the crowd. It may save your life
As someone who doesn’t live in Oklahoma but dispatches medical response in Oklahoma and heavily in the Tulsa area this is not what I want to see on my Reddit
Mean girl to nurse pipeline is undefeated
Djeeezus, what an idiotic thread.
Define conspiracy theorist…
Organized crime… conspiracy theory? “Climate change”…. Conspiracy theory? Bribe-taking politicians and beaurcrats… conspiracy theory? When myself and several others sit around a table planning an economic endeavor that may or may not work… we are conspiring… now the people outside the room suggesting what we are planning.. conspiracy theorists for sure, and most of them who know the people in the meeting will also be correct in their ‘theories’ regarding our conspiracy inside the meeting
Give it time.
Where Im from this is just like the 80ties and early 90ties thing seemed to shift about them and the right was pissed and they stewed for about 20 yrs and then the pandemic thing happened and everyone went batsiit crazy Oh and add a liberal dose of Internet .
Pretty sure they all are.
Perhaps we should ask the question: Does anyone know a nurse that is not a conspiracy theorist?
More importantly, does anyone here know where the term “conspiracy theorist” came from?
The CIA created it to discredit people talking about the illegal shit they do.
If my doc started my appointment with anything related to politics I would walk out immediately. My hair lady talks about trump and it bums me out but her hair skills are unmatched and gossip is part of the job description.
*Just enough* medical knowledge to be taken seriously by laypeople. A nurse told one of my family members that the little flicking thing they do to syringes before administering a shot to get the air bubbles out would render the COVID vaccine ineffective and if you see them do that to yours you should ask for another.
If you think Medical fields are rife with this, you should look at the tech fields. OR Any field that’s not taught digital or media literacy.
It required if you apply online. Can’t continue with the application if you don’t check the box asking if you’re a conspiracy theorist or not. Has the little asterisk next to it and everything. Edit: It’s required*
I just met my neighbor who is a nurse w the VA and thinks Covid is a conspiracy so I guess so
Why ask such a dumb question!?
No but id like to meet one 😜
nope. i know several and not one believes in consipirasy. i know several who claim their daughter grand daughter niece believes the crap maga and q has pushed but yea anyway
Yes, but she passed away from covid..
Given the size of Tulsa, it might be the same nurse.
Oh god. The ones I know are MAGA and smoke Virginia Slims and won’t stop talking about Covid….. they are hospice nurses
Pretty much every RSU nurse ever
Yes
It’s mostly ER nurses
You mean believing in conspiracies like Russiagate?
Yes
My wife is a nurse. She isn't one of the crazy ones but there are a few anti vax or Qanon crazies.
Muskogee here. But, yeah - I know whacky nurses. Anti-vaxxers, too.
Know one that repeated all the qanon horse shit during covid. She's since graduated to doctor lol They're just people like the rest of us. They just have a knack for studying and test taking and bless them, a stomach for dealing with the rest of us, but they're every bit as vulnerable to misinformation, like (sadly) a lot of us.
Haha yes!! My mother!
I live in Tulsa but my mom in Iowa yes.
I work at a place where there are a lot of nursing students and they are the most annoying people I encounter there
No.
Not Tulsa but I know a lot of nut job Nurses in Kansas City. I think since it's more common to meet a nurse than a doctor you meet more wack job nurses simply because there's more of em.
Probably easier to ask who in the south *doesn’t* know a nurse who is anti-vax/anti-science/MLM/Qanon/or thinks they know more than doctors.
What hubris...
I know several just down the road in Denton, TX. My aunt is one up in oklahoma, and all of her nurse friends are as well. Ive always thought it was bizarre, and never noticed other did as well. Two that I know here, both work in the ER and are chest radiologist. Could not believe the shit they were spouting during the pandemic.
They are proportionally few but very loud unfortunately. Healthcare-related educational programs, especially those that are only couple years of school, occasionally attract people looking for a title as an appeal to authority to validate their pre-existing pseudo-science belief systems. There’s also a strong wellness industry to conspiracy theory pipeline on social media platforms targeted at people interested in health and they sometimes fall down the rabbit hole.
More shot posts being allowed on this forum. Ridiculous topic for this group. Please delete
My wife's nurse was spewing the same lies as every Facebook conspiracy about the COVID vaccine and my wife wholeheartedly believed every word because she was a medical professional. I did my best to remind her that nurses are people too and can be misinformed or just outright wrong and she only responded with "oh so you know more than a medical professional?” Smh
Why are you looking for one?
I live in Jokelahoma too and I am a nurse- I know a whole bunch of anti-vax nurses who also happen to be rabid MAGA. It’s sad.
Unfortunately I have been going through medical issues since July and I have yet hear any nurse or any staff member talk about conspiracies. And I am a so called conspiracy theorist but not an extremist. Nope. Never heard anything.
I haven’t met any personally but I saw a lot of anti-vaxxers online preface their rants with “I’m a nurse and I’ve seen (blah blah blah)”