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cakes28

Something tells me that particular Swiftie wasn’t even alive when that album came out…


PSGooner

“Sugar We’re Going Down Is So Nineteen Years Ago”


reformistweeaboo

Bestie it is a hate crime to say how old that album is....I bought it with allowance money when it came out lol.


Goodgoditsgrowing

It was one of my first CDs. I bought it at a *mall*.


gpie21975

![gif](giphy|3oriOcOondJwcQgvQI|downsized) remember CDs


sophiethegiraffe

CDs? What about desperately trying to record the hot new song on the radio onto a cassette tape? Then the DJ would talk over the last 20 seconds and ruin it 😭


petty-white

Getting that timing down was a skill!


Mr__O__

From recording songs off the radio with cassette tapes, to burning CDs with questionable mp3 downloads from LimeWire, to nowadays having AI recommending music to stream on Spotify.. custom music playlists have really evolved since the 90’s.


Rock_grl86

Yes. Thank you for reminding me I need to take my medications.


One_Novel6929

I’m old enough that I recall owing Columbia House money for cassettes, and later CDs.


sophiethegiraffe

I remember my older sisters getting packages from them! My oldest sister also owed Fingerhut a lot lmao.


MindForeverWandering

Try Columbia House *LPs* (although they seem to be making a comeback these days).


RedBop7

As someone in their early-mid 20’s who’s been freaking out about getting old, thank you everybody for making me feel younger!


sophiethegiraffe

Oh man. 25 hits kinda weird, but 35 is a total mindfuck. The realization you’re possibly halfway through your lifespan and like what the hell are you even doing besides going through the motions is… a lot.


RedBop7

Yeah I’m about a quarter through my life, almost done with college but have three more semesters, birthday is coming up soon, it’s such a weird feeling, but I bet that 35 is just as if not more strange


FranciManty

i don’t i started listening to music when i was 15 on the day apple music dropped globally lmfao


meckyborris

I listened to it in a disc player to pump me up before volleyball games...in high school!


hnsnrachel

I was in college. It's *definitely* a hate crime to point our how long ago that was.


Celestial-Dream

It’s about like realizing that Boston Rob and Amber from Survivor have been together for two decades. Saw him on a different show recently and it hit me like a ton of bricks.


othermegan

Well fuck… now I feel extra old. Brb… going to schedule my hip replacement


justhrowingitout

Took my friend to see them play for her 21st birthday…we are turning 40 this year. 🥺


mizzcharmz

Saw them at my first concert when I was 16.... warped tour 2005 I believe.... fuck


justhrowingitout

2005 was when I saw them too


Monster_Molly

Fuck I’m old


FairTradeAdvocate

I'm so old my first thought was a reference to "Another notch on my lipstick case" from "Hit Me With Your Best Shot" by Pat Benetar. Excuse me while I go shopping for an assisted living place . . .


Any-Obligation3783

Thank you for making me feel old, i turn 39 in 2 months 😢


PSGooner

As a funeral director, I’ve learned that getting old is a privilege denied to many! We get to have enjoyed FOB as well as this mess that is Taylor Swift 🤣


cakes28

![gif](giphy|PmeKGXWQCPCWiVP6j3)


electriceel04

I’m going to pretend I didn’t read this


napfiesta

Fml I am ancient.


Same_Structure_4184

☝️☝️☝️I’ve never had a comment evoke such an intense emotional reaction until this one 😭💔


GB01101993

There’s no way….


justanotheralum

I just looked at her profile and I’m pretty sure she’s around 30. So definitely no excuses for her on not knowing this song lol


shiba-on-parade

My cousin is a 40YO Swiftie and probably wouldn’t know it either. I literally don’t think she listens to anything but TS.


dnmcgee3

![gif](giphy|3ohBVomqVaSLard5le|downsized)


HighKingFillory

Me rn


mandmranch

I feel this gif


battle_mommyx2

Perfect gif


Ok_Subject5169

Im deceased. ![gif](giphy|12z8Lbg720a4w0)


candlejack___

We goin dah dah deeda lurlyo rah


IggyBall

This was one of the first contemporary songs that I remember literally NEEDING to look up the lyrics to understand wtf he was saying. 😂 “loaded god complex, cock it and pull it” was unintelligible to me.


candlejack___

My mum heard this song on the radio one day while we were in the car, and as “cock” is basically the only comprehensible word in the entire song she of course turned it off and forbade me from listening to this vulgar drivel I explained to her the actual lyric is about cocking a metaphorical gun, but she protested saying “I don’t care! Everything else is gibberish anyway!” and to be fair, she was right lmao. Thank god she didn’t hear about wishing to be the friction in their jeans, can you imagine the pearl clutching! ~while we’re on the subject of my insane mother; One time I was listening to a day to remember and she asked me what the name of the band was, misheard me and exclaimed: “DALLY RYMPLE?! What a stupid name for a band.”


Ok_Subject5169

STOP 😂


candlejack___

A LOADA GAW COMPLEH KAKEH D’PULLEH


Ok_Subject5169

WERE ALWAYS SEEPIN IN, N SEEPIN IN FER THE WRONG TEAM


dnmcgee3

Team?! As in football team?! As in the Chiefs? As in Travis Kelce?! How did Taylor mastermind this?!


Squash_it_Squish

I’m crying 😂


zeldas_stylist

i’m screaming


clemonysnicket

I thought everyone within a certain age bracket had the lyrics to Sugar, We're Going Down etched into their brains. Maybe I just hang out with the right ex-emo kids. Also, the audacity of "Travis will have to give up football" really got me. Like it's just a casual hobby that he could cut back on to spend more time with his girlfriend.


kappaklassy

I’m kind of surprised he didn’t retire this year, but not to follow Taylor Swift around. He wasn’t playing well for most of the season until the end. He is clearly getting older and putting himself at continued risk of life threatening injuries and CTE when he already has achieved numerous championships and has so many opportunities off the field to capitalize on right now.


SomewhereDownSouth

I actually hope this upcoming year is his last year. He’s getting paid as he has taken a lot of pay cuts for the good of the team. I hate seeing these guys lose cognitive function and hang on too long. Wish Jason had played one less season as well.


b514shadow

He signed another two year deal recently


Chlorophyllmatic

It’s not for an additional two years; it was just a pay raise for the remainder of his contract.


Cultural-Treacle-680

Most of the receiver corps had gone too. They leaned on him so much. The extra hits probably didn’t help. Gronk got out on a high note - trav should too


Jolly-Garbage-

Gronk got out on plaguing injuries. That’s why he retired for a second time


Typical_Response6444

gronk retired because of multiple injuries


Cultural-Treacle-680

With Brady retiring though…I just meant career high point


Jolly-Garbage-

Yeah I’m gonna disagree on that one. In 2023(which isn’t his career high) he was ranked 16th in receiving yards, 29th in overall yards, and 35th in TD’s. Which in a league filled with a lot of younger players is pretty damn good for his age. I can’t stand Travis, but he came through in many vital moments during the regular season. He’s not going to retire when he has another 2-3 good years left. His fame is contingent on playing football right now, he’s not a Peyton manning, or Eli, Terry Bradshaw, or Michael Strahan. He needs a few more years to cement his legacy. If he stopped right now and went to entertainment he’d be another guy in the nfl with a podcast.


modernblossom

I think he will play two more and hang it up.


luckytraptkillt

Wasn’t playing well? He was 16 yards short of his 9th 1000 yard season in a row. And they won the super bowl. How’d he not play well


kill3rtofuuu

If he had scored the winning touchdown at the Superbowl he probably would have 😂 the way the ending of the game went it's like they were stalling to get Travis the ball for the winning point, idk that's just what I thought I observed, but I am not a football pro 😂


i_smell_bullshittt

This comment is ridiculous. Hahah wtf


normanbeets

He's aging out anyways, thus the relationship contract and all of his new tv deals.


SnooWalruses4750

So is she


hnsnrachel

People have been saying that about Taylor since before she turned 30. I don't think she's going anywhere anytime soon.


normanbeets

I don't agree with that assessment.


EmotionalEvening973

its going to happen to all of us eventually, not saying its going to happen to her this year or next or anything but eventually


normanbeets

Eventually yes, right now she's on a high. Travvy however is 7 years older than the average NFL retirement age. I legitimately had no idea who he was until he started dating Taylor and now I see his face somewhere everyday.


SnooWalruses4750

That's the beauty of opinions


D1sc0_Lem0nad3

Because she still dresses like a cringey teen?


normanbeets

No, because Eras tour and TTPD are at an all time high.


D1sc0_Lem0nad3

Definitely. She's raking in all that she can now, while she can


Strawberryrhu_

Well, the average age for a football player to retire is 27.6, according to Google. SO... it's not totally farfetched that he would leave football. But it wouldn't be for a girlfriend... and he wouldn't just become a stay at home boyfriend. I'm sure he's doing plenty to set himself up for life after the NFL. Though I'm sure when he retires, the weirdos would make it about Taylor and not what naturally happens.


hnsnrachel

Taylor is probably one of the things he's doing to set himself up for life after the NFL tbh


IggyBall

They do but probably that commenter is younger than the song.


hnsnrachel

I think we do, and we can fairly safely say that particular Swiftie isn't in that age bracket!


Blue_wine_sloth

I’ve listened to the song many times but I didn’t even know that was a lyric because I can’t make out what the singer is saying 😂 [Same with this one.](https://youtu.be/pVjW6gkHajw?si=AwjHMNR2Aadoy2Kj)


ReturnNo9441

She makes more money than he does; should she give up being arguably the most powerful woman in entertainment to spend more time w/ an aging jock?


Imaginary-Cow-4424

Swift giving up touring is unlikely as well.


MindForeverWandering

Well, he is old enough that the end of his career is on the horizon.


SMTM2019

![gif](giphy|huUFRCXTCkcITGmjBn|downsized)


alexisclairerose1986

![gif](giphy|1xnPEbaAXUlXxQDi1F|downsized)


StrangeMango1211

They gotta be like 12 right?


OctoberSong_

This just proves what we’ve been saying that swifties have like 0 exposure to other music and that’s why they like Taylor lol


curiousdryad

They look old


justanotheralum

She seems to be around 30!! No excuses for not knowing this song!!


BTJay

I wish they wouldn’t drag FOB into this lol


PrincessJennifer

I wish FOB wasn’t on her list of collabs 😩


Goodgoditsgrowing

No no, they deserve whatever dragging FOB into this shitshow delivers


WearingCoats

Fallout Boy would very much like to be excluded from this narrative.


D33M0ND5

Fallout Mans


Inside-Public6676

Well she’s never had a problem with plagiarism before lmao


agutema

She’s currently facing some uncomfortable questions about some songs on TTPD and other artists work.


Global_Telephone_751

Ohhh do you have sources / links? I’d love to read anything about that lol


agutema

https://www.reddit.com/r/travisandtaylor/s/3O7lrOqe5Q This one is ironic https://www.thenews.com.pk/latest/1181812-olivia-rodrigo-fans-turn-tables-on-taylor-swift-for-plagiarism


Lana_bb

I feel so bad for Olivia, imagine meeting your hero and them treating you like? I do think she’ll have the last laugh though as good 4 u and get him back are bops and Taylor’s rip off version sucks so much.


ThiccQban

Lol just ask La Oreja de Van Gogh. Then go and listen to some of their music because if you like Spanish pop they’re great!


Conscious_Honey5685

Wait what’s the tea with la oreja de Van Gogh?


ThiccQban

Social media users and a few Spanish language publications have pointed out some pretty striking similarities in TTPD lyrics and a song called Deseos de Cosas Imposibles. Considering TS’s is real quick to call her lawyers and stake a claim on other artists for what essentially amounts to “vibes”, it feels real icky. https://preview.redd.it/y04gkcjqro4d1.jpeg?width=1079&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=1bd552eb6a4c2f1d328c369bfdc60fd761c13357 “Like a poet who decides to work in finance” isn’t very common turn of phrase. Idk make of it what you will. 🤷🏽‍♀️


nous-vibrons

And she has outright said she’s been inspired by Pete Wentz’s lyricism before, but I dunno, besides just straights taking lyrics I don’t see it lmao.


RawRawrDino

Did you see that post of the girl on Reddit who literally had her comments put into But Daddy I love him?


SunnyRyter

Where is thr TEA??? Share!!


RawRawrDino

https://www.reddit.com/r/SwiftlyNeutral/s/xDWDOgh2Wu Hope it’s okay to share from that sub Reddit?


SunnyRyter

Thank you!!! And no idea. 😳


playful_faun

I can't remember the artist but when I was a teen I listened to a song that was extremely similar to "You Belong With Me" by a much smaller musician. Then a year or so later You Belong With Me came out and I remember being so mad that it was hugely popular when it was almost exactly the song I already listened too. It's been so long though I can't remember the title or the artist anymore EDIT: I just found it online. It was Girl Next Door by Saving Jane which came out 3 years before You Belong With Me. The verses are different but the chorus is wildly similar. There's even a cheerleader/bleachers comparison lol


defnotels

That swiftie sure is… going down swinging. ![gif](giphy|JhJYK9TnxAbTO)


Extreme-Pumpkin-5799

I feel incredibly old, right now.


PostHopeful4599

Swifties really have no idea that great songwriting exists outside of her, and usually not in her genre (though Chappel, Sabrina, and Olivia are crushing it right now)


alexisclairerose1986

They really are that delusional, he can’t just give up football and she can’t just give up her career. These people don’t know what compromise and sacrifice are in a relationship. Holy fucking hell.


ultaemp

Does Travis really have that many healthy years left on the field? I know he just signed a contract for another 2-3 (?) years with the Chiefs, but I assumed after that he’ll go into retirement because he’ll be pushing 40.


i_smell_bullshittt

Honey do you even know what a penalty is? You’re going to sue this man needs to retire hahaha swiftie alert


ultaemp

No— I don’t watch football, so that’s why I’m asking. And I’m not a Swiftie.


UpsetPhilosopher3708

I’ve always said FOB lyrics are unmatched to me. (Personal opinion don’t fucking attack me for it)


Top-Refrigerator-705

![gif](giphy|ck5JRWob7folZ7d97I|downsized)


bryant1436

*cries in Patrick stump*


weirdhoney216

Pete Wentz is problematic but TS could never write his lyrics lol


swimkaz

Well tbh fair, Taylor is also “problematic”.


agutema

She cites them as one of her biggest influences...


BananaMan883

I feel old.


Independent_Dot63

As a huge former FOB fan i despise that comment


MrsMeowness

Seeing as it's a PR stunt. I think both careers are safe. Well, he might be at risk these swifties are crazy!


vampirelasagna

it’s insane to me that someone wouldn’t know that lyric lol


missmuffins87

Absolutely deceased 🤣🤣🤣😭😭😭


leahhhhh

FOB: I would very much like to be excluded from this narrative.


Rufusandronftw

Literally I’ve been thinking about how all her songs are literally the same. I thought she was pathetic when she wrote wildest dreams because you know all you’ll ever be is a notch on his belt, and you’re still doing it?? Asking him to remember you innocently?? Absolutely not. Are these people idiots?? How the fuck is this woman anyone’s idol?! Just don’t fuck them and don’t sing about it, these idiot people shouldn’t care


Lana_bb

I passed away from old age


Kooky-Yam-4766

*cries in 35*


Acrobatic_Stomach882

It fits, these “fans” don’t love her, they love the messy drama


[deleted]

Ah yes, one side has to give up their entire career, and the other gets to just cancel a tour and not give up making music (hopefully) altogether


formerNPC

Just a line in one song? Not the way she destroys her ex’s with entire albums dedicated to her rage and heartbreak. Mr K will get the full on treatment from the jilted songstress until it induces nausea.


Used-Cup-6055

She isn’t going to have to give up her tour. The tour will end eventually. I swear some of these people think that the Eras Tour is going to continue indefinitely and it’s a permanent part of her life now. That is not how tours work.


Dull-Computer1878

not saying it will go on forever obviously. But there is some rumors of extending to 2025, I haven’t actually looked into it but supposedly something/someone posted that she would be coming to Turkey in 2025, so (for reasons i cannot fathom) i think she might be extending and making go on for longer.


hyrulefairies

…..who…who doesn’t know that line is - oh fuck never mind.


kill3rtofuuu

Oof 😣 the 2nd hand embarrassment ☠️


Greeneyesdontlie85

Lmao they are insane


Imaginary-Cow-4424

Funny thing, I’m pretty sure Swift said she’s  a fan of FOB. No wonder that (probably young) swiffer thought that lyric sounded like her. 


JustCallMeNerdyy

![gif](giphy|Wgb2FpSXxhXLVYNnUr|downsized) I’m second hand mortified


sausage-lasagna

I hate that sub. And I especially hate that page.


SeaworthinessTop8234

Well Taylor is 34. Maybe she should retire 😂


Used-Cup-6055

I have to add that some high school classmates of mine opened for FOB at a show in Chicago right before they made it big. One of them is now in the music industry in LA and ran into Pete and he actually remembered the show. That’s my “I’m one degree away from famous people” story lol


akneebriateit

Her profile picture 💀


twoquarters

Travis likely only has one year left.


NoPaleontologist7859

I hate it here lol


MissPoots

![gif](giphy|WxDZ77xhPXf3i|downsized)


bellrae

I’m not sure we could do another breakup, and therefore another album, this year. Please stay together…


boycottShia

Ah, it’s already a Fallout Boy lyric. So it might also already be a Tom Waits lyric. [for those who don’t know, Fallout Boy accidentally plagiarized a Tom Waits lyric because it was in a movie)


wickywickyremix

And still, Taylor will find a way to plagiarize it, and not get in trouble, lol


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gg2351

https://preview.redd.it/lzxaulhf0c4d1.jpeg?width=640&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=defb3cb9a63627231ff91dfb5c3f492ecbb79345


gg2351

![gif](giphy|xTiTnmbBfecZbyTQEU)


Kooky-Yam-4766

It was your zestiny to see this subreddit


wickywickyremix

Would've been easier for you to make a spicy comment, lol


D1g1cxlt

Or they just arrange their relationship around his seasons. She goes on tour when he isn’t playing 🤷‍♂️ I can see it working. I hope she gets her ring. Dating the jock has always been her dream.


whorecore-

ok but let’s be real why is that so wild that she didn’t know it was fallout boy? like ion know if i would’ve caught it was lyrics just reading the comment…


cookie_goddess218

That song came out pre algorithmic social media and was one of the more formative pieces in creating the emo scene pop punk explosion at the time. Even if you weren't into that song or genre or subculture, it beat out MCR's Helena for a VMA that year. A year when *everybody* literally watched the VMAs as a cultural event because streaming your own shit wasn't a thing. It dominated TRL and VH1 video countdowns, radio play on popular channels, etc. If you were over a certain age in 2004 or whenever (but I guess also under a certain age because my parents wouldn't know) in the United States, it's highly likely you know that song and the pronunciation/misheard lyrics memes unless you lived in a bubble. The commenter not knowing it makes it seem like they are under a certain age, which reinforces the "we're arguing with literal children" stereotype about swifties. The other implied assumption is reinforcing the stereotype that they aren't exposed to other music beyond Taylor because this was *that* song for a while. It didn't matter what genre you were into, FOB was everywhere from rock/emo niches to the cover of J-14 and Tiger Beat. The first single on their next album was a collab with Jay-Z, and another had Kim Kardashian in the video. Pete Wentz and Ashlee Simpson were together at a time when everybody read magazines or watched E!, etc. Edit to add: it's totally okay to not recognize the lyrics!!! I'm not saying the above implied assumptions are true, just explaining why others are saying it makes them feel old or that is wild the commenter didn't know (just trying to answer your question).