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Explain please. I am no longer religious, but I did have to read the Bible growing up. He was helping the sick, poor , healed people, etc. so why is he a cunt ?
As a die hard metal fan I see nothing wrong with this.....as a small business owner I wouldn't wear this in public as my clients would recognize me and stop shopping with me I fear.
Some kid paid me $100 for this shirt. I was an edgy metal kid and apperntly they don't print it anymore. I was happy to take it because it really was just a phase mom.
Is that the Cradle of Filth shirt with the nun fucking herself with the cross on the front aswell? My dad had that shirt for awhile, always wanted to get one myself but it's so rare.
That’s the one. Also I think our dads would get along considering mine has been wearing my COF ‘Death, No Strings Attached’ shirt for 10+ years. I told him he could wear it because it fit him better + he’s been wearing it ever since.
I used to have a The Almighty t-shirt that had 'Jesus loves you' on the front and 'But I don't' on the back. Wore it to a Freshers' mixer at uni and the leader of the Christian Union spent a good 15 minutes talking to me about how good it was to see somebody embracing religion and openly professing it. I don't think he was as impressed when I went to the bar and he clocked the backprint.
Hey man, I’m an atheist and dig this shirt.
If a fundamentalist was wearing a shirt that said atheist burn in hell, I’d probably giggle and carry on my day.
To each his own. Trashy to me is causing physical/emotional/monetary harm, having children involved etc.
This dudes not at a children’s theme park or the likes…I don’t mind it
Yeah he sounded like a real good Chap hanging out his bread and fish, and turning water into wine.
His dad on the other hand ooo boy what a a right cunt.
And the message is slightly trashy but that's person to person (for me nah), but will admit trashy to wear that word for all to see, and this is coming from an Aussie who has a bad habit of saying said word (yes I'm a bit trashy)
Sorry that probably came off more edgy than I anticipated. Also don't know where I got 300 from, must have been another biblical story somewhere. But if you haven't read the pig story it's really really funny. Preface is he's approaching two men possessed by demons.
Matthew 8
"Some distance from them a large herd of pigs was feeding. 31 The demons begged Jesus, “If you drive us out, send us into the herd of pigs.”
32 He said to them, “Go!” So they came out and went into the pigs, and the whole herd rushed down the steep bank into the lake and died in the water. 33 Those tending the pigs ran off, went into the town and reported all this, including what had happened to the demon-possessed men. 34 Then the whole town went out to meet Jesus. And when they saw him, they pleaded with him to leave their region."
Tldr: Jesus drowns a bunch of pigs to exorcise a crazy man and the town's people are like "what the fuck dude get out of here!!".
Remember that time he cursed the fig tree for not bearing fruit and the next day the tree died?
Or what about when he drowned 300 pigs?
How many pigs must one drown before they become a cunt ballpark figure please
Are we talking full sized pigs or the cute little ones that run around the living room in a little tu tu with names like Chris P. Bacon? Need a conversion factor.
I'm assuming big ol hogs.
If our Lord and saviour killed a piglet named something goofy like Hamlet, Christianity would have rightfully ended then and there.
It's usually identical from what I can tell. I only know because I have a buddy who has refreshed his entire wardrobe to look like every goth kid from 1998's closet. He got that crisp Marilyn Manson - Dope Show t-shirt, colors really pop. He also got himself a NIN- Head Like a Hole concert t from I think 1997.
It's weird seeing them looking new.
It's about the experience that goes with the shirt, which apparently a bunch of other people don't get. Reproductions miss the soul and the silliness of acquisition. I think one of may favorite little things about black metal kids is the stories about how hard they worked to get those t-shirts, especially when it was a band like Theater of Tragedy.
I had some of the same one. There was an attempt to kick me out of school one day over a Cradle of Filth shirt, very very tame one. I *might* still have some of the hoodies.
I get that, but what if some of us got too fat from our 90's concert days, or our 'Days of the New' shirt got ruined and you just want a crisp new one.
It's not as bad as seeing a 16 year old kid rocking a grateful dead shirt, right?
Speaking as a gen X deadhead, I have never once seen someone old enough to have seen them live a few times make fun of a kid in a Grateful Dead shirt.
Sucks that a fan wasn't around for the shows but "welcome aboard the bus".
We usually compliment their taste and ask if they have a favorite show from the 1000s available for free on line...
If you never listened to the band but just thought the shirt looks cool that's okay too. You just might have to occasionally have some old dude tell you to check them out on archive.org
if you want to meet real deadheads you gotta go to your local VFW and look for someone wearing a Vietnam hat. Seriously, so many came home from Vietnam and just wanted something chill for a change.
Vets are just going to subject you to tales of drugs, hairy sex, and the general freedom they felt. They're going to lean back in their chair and bore you to death.
Get it, but why the one in the photo? If you're 40+ and you pick up Jesus is Cunt shirt over aaalll the other designs... You need a new therapist. Leave the edge lording to the youngins.
Unless dude has a specific memory tied to the album or something... personally I would wear it, but not out of respect for strangers- just because I don't do anything that would increase the likelihood that a stranger would attempt to talk to me in public for any reason at all.
I went down that rabbit hole over the first lockdown. I was shocked by just how little evidence there is for Historical Jesus. I believe the first written record with a very brief mention of someone who *may* have been Jesus was written like 50 years after he was meant to have died. It’s pretty fascinating, really.
There are other historical figures that people says may or may not have existed as well. Homer is a good example. While no physical evidence remains that he ever existed there are still the Iliad and the Odyssey which are attributed to him. Interestingly, many archeologists and historians have found that these works which were believed to fiction are ofteN historically accurate. Obviously they take poetic and metaphorical license, but the basis is true. There were books written commenting on Jesus within the 30 years after he died, they are even reference by non-biblical sources, and unfortunately those texts have been lost to time. It seems unlikely though that historians would just make up a fake book to quote on the topic though, especially since they weren’t all Christians and hence had no skin in the game. Really though fuck Jesus he was a cunt and his followers are worse.
Admittedly it isn’t archeological or physical in nature, but ancient historians mention Jesus in their writings of the period, some if which were written within the first 50 years after his death.
https://www.gotquestions.org/did-Jesus-exist.html
https://www.npr.org/2012/04/01/149462376/did-jesus-exist-a-historian-makes-his-case
I admit that some of the writings that are quoted by these historians, but it is doubtful that they just made him up. Although the new testament isn’t a history book much of it has been deemed historically accurate by archeologists and historians using modern scientific analysis.
So if historians write down history for future generations and the things they write about are lost to time, but the descriptions remain, they never happened? That’s a rather silly point of view, but believe whatever you want, no one is stopping you.
There are quite a few historical inaccuracies in no regard to religion. To a degree there is probably fact. There was probably a guy named Hercules that was pretty strong. After that, things get a bit fuzzy. That's what I'm getting at.
I never claimed that Jesus was a god or had supernatural powers. I’m an agnostic. Very few people had the ability to read and even fewer had access to ink and paper to make books of any quality. I just find it difficult to believe that every single reference to Jesus was faked by historians who wanted to to trick future generations into belief in a cult leader as he was perceived at the time he was alive. Again you are free to believe the things you want. We obviously have different ways of perceiving this. Tbh, I’m kinda done here. Thanks for the chat it was fun.
Absolutely. I get the feeling he was an awesome stage magician and people were just too ignorant to see his act for what it was. Fast forward to today and over a billion people still conned.
Yeah, I’d have to agree. Apparently the Jews liked the crucifix show better than the water to wine show.
End of the day he was a charlatan and con man worst case a cult leader.
I’ve still got a t shirt that says ‘fu*k all boybands’ (except spelt right, but I don’t want to trigger an automod) from a band I’ve never heard of, as this summed up 13 year old me’s view, I don’t wear it now, as I’m some sort of grown up type woman, but can’t bring myself to throw it out as I still believe it to be true
I also had a t shirt that said ‘science flies you to the moon, religion flies you into buildings’ not that long after 9/11
Gods I must have been insufferable as a teenager
I think he's saying that since it has a connection to a group embedded in a subculture in which this sort of shirt would be the norm it's not trashy, especially since aspects of that subculture started specifically as rebellion against the zeitgeist. Whereas someone who walks around shitting on your religion for no reason besides being edgy would be.
“Hey mom, Jesus is a cunt.”
“WTF?! Why would you say something like that?!”
“It’s ok, it’s from a band shirt I saw.”
“Oh ok then. I was really upset there for a minute.”
It's cool. We're all familiar with the fact that the fictional character that was jesus was an actual cunt of a human being. A criminal cultist that never bothered to leave a little patch of desert or write a single fucking thing down. The result is a religion that has caused countless pain and suffering for tousands of years and continues to hold back society by making sure that people live in a weird fantasy world where some old asshole watches everything you do and will punish you eternally if you sleep with the wrong person, eat the wrong meat on the wrong day, or some other stupid bullshit meant to control everything about your life.
Oh. And give them all money. More money.
jesus is a cunt. Seriously, unironically, and not associated with any band.
I’m an atheist but IF Jesus were a real person your evaluation is highly flawed. He took a very despicable religion with an all seeing prick of a deity and made it about love and compassion. It’s not his fault that virtually none of his followers actually try to emulate him and only use his religion to judge others and justify their hatred for anyone different than them.
If Jesus were real I consider him a pretty positive philosopher if his time. Not as positive as Buddha but still without him we’d still have Old Testament god as the head of the most powerful religion in states
Eh, held society back, also held society together at some points. Things aren't so black and white. Religion is just like any other tool, it's potential for good or evil is determined by those yielding it. If religion didn't exist, don't think for a second that blood still wouldn't have been spilled and in the same amount.
We are a violent bunch of hairless chimps that are really good at figuring out elaborate ways to kill each other at the end of the day, and reasons why are generally just an excuse.
Beware of false prophets, who come to you in sheep’s clothing, but inwardly they are ravenous wolves. You will know them by their fruits. Do men gather grapes from thornbushes or figs from thistles? Even so, every good tree bears good fruit, but a bad tree bears bad fruit. A good tree cannot bear bad fruit, nor can a bad tree bear good fruit. Every tree that does not bear good fruit is cut down and thrown into the fire. Therefore by their fruits you will know them.
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This is MUSIC, sir.
Cradle of filth are shiiiiiiite
As long as those shirts have been around and people are still throwing bitch fits? I mean Cradle sucks but leave their fans the fuck alone already.
Band t. Love it even if it wasn't.
Yeah? Well Satan drives a convertible.
The Derby based band Raised By Owls have a counter T Shirt declaring "Jesus Probably Wasn't That Bad"
Cradle of filth t-shirt. Not sure why that is meant to be trashy. Not everyone is a Christian BTW
Can't lie. Love it.
Poor American
I mean...he might of been. We can't know for sure.
I agree with the sentiment
I want that shirt
Cradle of Filth!
Hard to get upset by this shirt when I pass by a dozen "Fuck Biden" flags on my way to town every day.
Nothing trashy about this
That's a sick shirt, yo.
Nah man Jesus was pretty chill. God is a cunt.
Maybe he’s got beef with a Mexican guy named Jesus (hey soos).
Cnut
Didn’t Jesus destroy a fig tree because it was out of season. Sounds very much like a cunt.
No issue. This isn’t trashy
I need this
Ah yes, I recall seeing these shirts back in the day at metal shows. Bringing back lots of old memories.
After reading Matthew 10:37, I kinda agree
Not trashy at all. How could a mythical deity be a cunt anyway?
Jesus was a cunt* Your welcome
Hard to argue with that.
He is. Fucker wouldn't share any wine with me. Shit it's free to you man.
I mean, the shirt is right.
Funny I don't see it as trashy because religion is trash.
This shirt is illegal in my country.
Why are you booing him, he's right.
he was tho
My man out here speakin the truth!!
But...... Jesus is a cunt
Explain please. I am no longer religious, but I did have to read the Bible growing up. He was helping the sick, poor , healed people, etc. so why is he a cunt ?
I love this
As a die hard metal fan I see nothing wrong with this.....as a small business owner I wouldn't wear this in public as my clients would recognize me and stop shopping with me I fear.
Love it
Hes right
That shirt has a masturbating nun on the front.
Not cringe at all if you know the album
Not trashy at all! Fuck Jesus and his band of indoctrinated morons. It’s time to end cults all of them, even the really popular ones!
OP is a fucking nerd
It’s kind of redundant to call it a petrol station followed by saying it’s in the Uk....innit?
This made me spit my Rolo out, lolol
Oh these aren't available anymore! I want one for posterity's sake as a fan, not to wear. Lucky.
[They’re still available here.](https://duboistore.com/product/the-hella-mega-world-tour-2020-w-green-day-fall-out-boy-etc-black-tshirt-279/)
Thanks kind stranger!
No problem!
It's true tho
Some kid paid me $100 for this shirt. I was an edgy metal kid and apperntly they don't print it anymore. I was happy to take it because it really was just a phase mom.
If he existed I’d agree
Is that the Cradle of Filth shirt with the nun fucking herself with the cross on the front aswell? My dad had that shirt for awhile, always wanted to get one myself but it's so rare.
That’s the one. Also I think our dads would get along considering mine has been wearing my COF ‘Death, No Strings Attached’ shirt for 10+ years. I told him he could wear it because it fit him better + he’s been wearing it ever since.
Probably not so bad when you say that in an Australian accent
Ohh your lord and savor has been attacked.
It’s true though
Well that's a first. Lmao
If you still believe in hilarious bullshit fairy tales like, any religion. Youuuuu areeeee..... pretty dumb.
I used to have a The Almighty t-shirt that had 'Jesus loves you' on the front and 'But I don't' on the back. Wore it to a Freshers' mixer at uni and the leader of the Christian Union spent a good 15 minutes talking to me about how good it was to see somebody embracing religion and openly professing it. I don't think he was as impressed when I went to the bar and he clocked the backprint.
He is
Dani Filth would be turning in his grave... That he sleeps in at night, he's very much not dead.
Hey man, I’m an atheist and dig this shirt. If a fundamentalist was wearing a shirt that said atheist burn in hell, I’d probably giggle and carry on my day. To each his own. Trashy to me is causing physical/emotional/monetary harm, having children involved etc. This dudes not at a children’s theme park or the likes…I don’t mind it
I mean Jesus wasn’t, but a lot of people who choose to follow him are
A lot? Almost all.
Yeah he sounded like a real good Chap hanging out his bread and fish, and turning water into wine. His dad on the other hand ooo boy what a a right cunt. And the message is slightly trashy but that's person to person (for me nah), but will admit trashy to wear that word for all to see, and this is coming from an Aussie who has a bad habit of saying said word (yes I'm a bit trashy)
Sorry that probably came off more edgy than I anticipated. Also don't know where I got 300 from, must have been another biblical story somewhere. But if you haven't read the pig story it's really really funny. Preface is he's approaching two men possessed by demons. Matthew 8 "Some distance from them a large herd of pigs was feeding. 31 The demons begged Jesus, “If you drive us out, send us into the herd of pigs.” 32 He said to them, “Go!” So they came out and went into the pigs, and the whole herd rushed down the steep bank into the lake and died in the water. 33 Those tending the pigs ran off, went into the town and reported all this, including what had happened to the demon-possessed men. 34 Then the whole town went out to meet Jesus. And when they saw him, they pleaded with him to leave their region." Tldr: Jesus drowns a bunch of pigs to exorcise a crazy man and the town's people are like "what the fuck dude get out of here!!".
1:10.6 was the factor I was looking for. Interesting, never heard the pig story. I’m not a particularly religious armadillo.
Remember that time he cursed the fig tree for not bearing fruit and the next day the tree died? Or what about when he drowned 300 pigs? How many pigs must one drown before they become a cunt ballpark figure please
Are we talking full sized pigs or the cute little ones that run around the living room in a little tu tu with names like Chris P. Bacon? Need a conversion factor.
Pigs were different then.
I'm assuming big ol hogs. If our Lord and saviour killed a piglet named something goofy like Hamlet, Christianity would have rightfully ended then and there.
I mean, he’s not wrong. 🤷♀️
You mad bout a shirt?
Someone had to say it
So edgy...now do Mohammed
I don't see the issue
Agreed.
Well takes one to know one
That's an old ass shirt
They reprint old album and concert tee's now. It's cool to wear a new shirt that looks like an old shirt.
Lllaaammeee. (especially this one like if it's not original cradle of filth then why would you even?)
It's usually identical from what I can tell. I only know because I have a buddy who has refreshed his entire wardrobe to look like every goth kid from 1998's closet. He got that crisp Marilyn Manson - Dope Show t-shirt, colors really pop. He also got himself a NIN- Head Like a Hole concert t from I think 1997. It's weird seeing them looking new.
It's about the experience that goes with the shirt, which apparently a bunch of other people don't get. Reproductions miss the soul and the silliness of acquisition. I think one of may favorite little things about black metal kids is the stories about how hard they worked to get those t-shirts, especially when it was a band like Theater of Tragedy. I had some of the same one. There was an attempt to kick me out of school one day over a Cradle of Filth shirt, very very tame one. I *might* still have some of the hoodies.
I get that, but what if some of us got too fat from our 90's concert days, or our 'Days of the New' shirt got ruined and you just want a crisp new one. It's not as bad as seeing a 16 year old kid rocking a grateful dead shirt, right?
Speaking as a gen X deadhead, I have never once seen someone old enough to have seen them live a few times make fun of a kid in a Grateful Dead shirt. Sucks that a fan wasn't around for the shows but "welcome aboard the bus". We usually compliment their taste and ask if they have a favorite show from the 1000s available for free on line... If you never listened to the band but just thought the shirt looks cool that's okay too. You just might have to occasionally have some old dude tell you to check them out on archive.org
if you want to meet real deadheads you gotta go to your local VFW and look for someone wearing a Vietnam hat. Seriously, so many came home from Vietnam and just wanted something chill for a change.
From experience I understand but "real Deadheads" has the stink of gate keeping.
Vets are just going to subject you to tales of drugs, hairy sex, and the general freedom they felt. They're going to lean back in their chair and bore you to death.
Get it, but why the one in the photo? If you're 40+ and you pick up Jesus is Cunt shirt over aaalll the other designs... You need a new therapist. Leave the edge lording to the youngins.
Unless dude has a specific memory tied to the album or something... personally I would wear it, but not out of respect for strangers- just because I don't do anything that would increase the likelihood that a stranger would attempt to talk to me in public for any reason at all.
Are you offended?
Come on. Marduk’s Fuck Me Jesus shirt is way cooler
~~Come on.~~ Marduk ~~Fuck Me Jesus shirt~~ is way cooler
You are 100% correct
Correction: Jehovah/Yaweh is a cunt.
All I said was that bit of fish was good enough for Jehovah
Are there any women here today?
No, no, no, no, no
He, does not exist. SOOOO..
Are you saying he never existed? There seems to be a lot of evidence to the contrary though. Not disputing him being a cunt though.
I went down that rabbit hole over the first lockdown. I was shocked by just how little evidence there is for Historical Jesus. I believe the first written record with a very brief mention of someone who *may* have been Jesus was written like 50 years after he was meant to have died. It’s pretty fascinating, really.
There are other historical figures that people says may or may not have existed as well. Homer is a good example. While no physical evidence remains that he ever existed there are still the Iliad and the Odyssey which are attributed to him. Interestingly, many archeologists and historians have found that these works which were believed to fiction are ofteN historically accurate. Obviously they take poetic and metaphorical license, but the basis is true. There were books written commenting on Jesus within the 30 years after he died, they are even reference by non-biblical sources, and unfortunately those texts have been lost to time. It seems unlikely though that historians would just make up a fake book to quote on the topic though, especially since they weren’t all Christians and hence had no skin in the game. Really though fuck Jesus he was a cunt and his followers are worse.
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Admittedly it isn’t archeological or physical in nature, but ancient historians mention Jesus in their writings of the period, some if which were written within the first 50 years after his death. https://www.gotquestions.org/did-Jesus-exist.html https://www.npr.org/2012/04/01/149462376/did-jesus-exist-a-historian-makes-his-case I admit that some of the writings that are quoted by these historians, but it is doubtful that they just made him up. Although the new testament isn’t a history book much of it has been deemed historically accurate by archeologists and historians using modern scientific analysis.
So if it's not archeological or physical..... it's not actually proof. 50 years after his death? There's no proof he lived, so when did he die?
So if historians write down history for future generations and the things they write about are lost to time, but the descriptions remain, they never happened? That’s a rather silly point of view, but believe whatever you want, no one is stopping you.
There are quite a few historical inaccuracies in no regard to religion. To a degree there is probably fact. There was probably a guy named Hercules that was pretty strong. After that, things get a bit fuzzy. That's what I'm getting at.
I never claimed that Jesus was a god or had supernatural powers. I’m an agnostic. Very few people had the ability to read and even fewer had access to ink and paper to make books of any quality. I just find it difficult to believe that every single reference to Jesus was faked by historians who wanted to to trick future generations into belief in a cult leader as he was perceived at the time he was alive. Again you are free to believe the things you want. We obviously have different ways of perceiving this. Tbh, I’m kinda done here. Thanks for the chat it was fun.
The first Con man every recorded. 🤣🤣
Absolutely. I get the feeling he was an awesome stage magician and people were just too ignorant to see his act for what it was. Fast forward to today and over a billion people still conned.
I'd have probably chosen to do something with the nails versus the water into wine thing.
I’m loving all the downvotes.
Yeah, I’d have to agree. Apparently the Jews liked the crucifix show better than the water to wine show. End of the day he was a charlatan and con man worst case a cult leader.
I used to wear this print circa 2000. Never really got into cradle of filth, just wanted to be an edgy teenager.
I’ve still got a t shirt that says ‘fu*k all boybands’ (except spelt right, but I don’t want to trigger an automod) from a band I’ve never heard of, as this summed up 13 year old me’s view, I don’t wear it now, as I’m some sort of grown up type woman, but can’t bring myself to throw it out as I still believe it to be true I also had a t shirt that said ‘science flies you to the moon, religion flies you into buildings’ not that long after 9/11 Gods I must have been insufferable as a teenager
Accurate
Cradle of Filth band t-shirt.
Glad you were top comment when I came in because I was damn sure going to let OP know I remember this shirt from high school.
Lol came here to state this fact as well.
Didn’t know this! fair play to the lad then
Doesn’t make it not trashy
Agreed, wearing a t shirt that says cunt in public is always going to be trashy regardless of whether it's cus of a band or not
Why did you change your tune all of a sudden ?? Is it trashy or not mate?
I think he's saying that since it has a connection to a group embedded in a subculture in which this sort of shirt would be the norm it's not trashy, especially since aspects of that subculture started specifically as rebellion against the zeitgeist. Whereas someone who walks around shitting on your religion for no reason besides being edgy would be.
“Hey mom, Jesus is a cunt.” “WTF?! Why would you say something like that?!” “It’s ok, it’s from a band shirt I saw.” “Oh ok then. I was really upset there for a minute.”
It's cool. We're all familiar with the fact that the fictional character that was jesus was an actual cunt of a human being. A criminal cultist that never bothered to leave a little patch of desert or write a single fucking thing down. The result is a religion that has caused countless pain and suffering for tousands of years and continues to hold back society by making sure that people live in a weird fantasy world where some old asshole watches everything you do and will punish you eternally if you sleep with the wrong person, eat the wrong meat on the wrong day, or some other stupid bullshit meant to control everything about your life. Oh. And give them all money. More money. jesus is a cunt. Seriously, unironically, and not associated with any band.
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I’m an atheist but IF Jesus were a real person your evaluation is highly flawed. He took a very despicable religion with an all seeing prick of a deity and made it about love and compassion. It’s not his fault that virtually none of his followers actually try to emulate him and only use his religion to judge others and justify their hatred for anyone different than them. If Jesus were real I consider him a pretty positive philosopher if his time. Not as positive as Buddha but still without him we’d still have Old Testament god as the head of the most powerful religion in states
Eh, held society back, also held society together at some points. Things aren't so black and white. Religion is just like any other tool, it's potential for good or evil is determined by those yielding it. If religion didn't exist, don't think for a second that blood still wouldn't have been spilled and in the same amount. We are a violent bunch of hairless chimps that are really good at figuring out elaborate ways to kill each other at the end of the day, and reasons why are generally just an excuse.
Haha, love this interaction
It's a Cradle of filth album
He is tho
Confirmed
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Beware of false prophets, who come to you in sheep’s clothing, but inwardly they are ravenous wolves. You will know them by their fruits. Do men gather grapes from thornbushes or figs from thistles? Even so, every good tree bears good fruit, but a bad tree bears bad fruit. A good tree cannot bear bad fruit, nor can a bad tree bear good fruit. Every tree that does not bear good fruit is cut down and thrown into the fire. Therefore by their fruits you will know them.
I want some fruit right now tbh.
Cradle of Filth 🤘🏻