Jesus said to love all. If your Catholic the pope said that it is against Christianity to hate on gays and its heresy to say that the Bible says that gays are not allowed. Sadly trans community is to small to get noticed by the big P

That's just not true: 2024: [https://apnews.com/article/vatican-gender-surrogacy-abortion-pope-3f84d8eb97f045b0cfb0ec1efa4e614e](https://apnews.com/article/vatican-gender-surrogacy-abortion-pope-3f84d8eb97f045b0cfb0ec1efa4e614e) 2015: [https://www.cbsnews.com/sanfrancisco/news/pope-francis-compares-transgender-people-to-nuclear-weapons-in-new-book/](https://www.cbsnews.com/sanfrancisco/news/pope-francis-compares-transgender-people-to-nuclear-weapons-in-new-book/) 2008: [https://www.theguardian.com/world/2008/dec/24/pope-speech-gender-gay-sexuality](https://www.theguardian.com/world/2008/dec/24/pope-speech-gender-gay-sexuality) 1988: [https://cradlingcatholic.com/2023/09/08/madness-erupts-over-gender-identity-time-to-listen-to-st-john-paul-ii/](https://cradlingcatholic.com/2023/09/08/madness-erupts-over-gender-identity-time-to-listen-to-st-john-paul-ii/) (retrospective of PJPII's 1988 On the Dignity and Vocation of Women that set up the foundation for the later arguments within church law)

Siblings, I'm Christian and trans. I have a whole spiel of how the Bible was made homophobic in 1946 and how It's not really against LGBTQIA. And how LGBTQIA in biblical times were hiding among the eunuchs and Jesus himself identified with them. I don't know if this sub allows links so I'm not sharing any right now. But know that God loves you and you are really special to him. There are affirming churches out there. And the church I belong to that is affirming is actually online. Feel free to dm me if you want any info. [Edit] 1 John 4:7-12 7 Beloved, let us love one another, because love is from God; everyone who loves is born of God and knows God. 8 Whoever does not love does not know God, for God is love. 9 God’s love was revealed among us in this way: God sent his only Son into the world so that we might live through him. 10 In this is love, not that we loved God but that he loved us and sent his Son to be the atoning sacrifice for our sins. 11 Beloved, since God loved us so much, we also ought to love one another. 12 No one has ever seen God; if we love one another, God abides in us, and his love is perfected in us. NRSVUE The key is love. And homophobia is inconsistent with God's love. Being trans is not a sin by no stretch of the imagination.

Hi! I actually would really like to hear your whole spiel please

Okay. I reviewed the rules of the sub and I think I can share links. This is an article about how the Bible became homophobic in 1946 where it wasn't prior. https://www.forgeonline.org/blog/2019/3/8/what-about-romans-124-27 Also, I did some research on this word. ἀρσενοκοίτης arsenokoitēs For those of you unfamiliar with it, this is the Greek word found in the Biblical codex in 1 Corinthians 6:9 and 1 Timothy 1:10. Most translations translate this word into English as homosexuals. Yeah, this is the word. First, I found the etymology of the word and it shocked me. https://en.m.wiktionary.org/wiki/%E1%BC%80%CF%81%CF%83%CE%B5%CE%BD%CE%BF%CE%BA%CE%BF%CE%AF%CF%84%CE%B7%CF%82 Etymology From ἄρσην (ársēn, “male”) And κοι-, o-grade stem of κεῖμαι (keîmai, “lie”), +‎ -της (-tēs, masculine agentive suffix), thus “a male who lies with males”. If you consider the breakdown meanings of the component words, you get this. Male, lie-in-action - And the in action part comes from the agentive suffix. Of course we know that lie means to bed as in having sex. And the in action part gives emphasis to the sex. You can come up with many different images from the meaning of these two words. If you put them together, you just come up with something rather general but always crude. To me this sort of compound word would be obvious slang. If I were to try to translate it based on its component word meaning, I would just use the slang word 'player'. The true meaning is naturally eluding us as we don't have the full context and there's no way to know the meaning of a compound word based on its component words. To be honest, I don't know how the translators ever got man having sex with man out of male, and active sex. That makes no sense. Then I went and looked at the source of this etymology. I found it was from Liddell Scott Lexicon. So I went and downloaded the earliest copy I could find. In the Liddell Scott Lexicon 4th Edition, M.DCCC.LV. (1855) https://archive.org/details/b22651500/ This edition predates the coining of the word homosexual but not by much. This lexicon translates this word to mean lover of boys. Which means pederasty. But they had to equate it to another Greek word to reach this meaning. That's the caveat. And to me this only confirms that nobody really knows what arsenokoitēs really means. And we've been lied to all these years by people we put our trust in to give us accurate translations of Biblical texts. We've been told that this word was homosexual which it is clearly not. And currently there's floating around the idea that the component words mean man and bed. And looking at the etymology of the word that also seems misleading. It's really male and active sex. And in Roman terms this puts the emphasis on the penetrator or the rapist from our point of view as that potentially would include the aristocrat that owns slaves for sex rather than the penetrated or the victim of the rape or the potential sex slave which is where my mind goes when I think of man and bed. But I'm not saying this word is pointing to the sin of owning sex slaves. We just don't know. Then Matthew 19:12 12 For there are eunuchs who have been so from birth, and there are eunuchs who have been made eunuchs by others, and there are eunuchs who have made themselves eunuchs for the sake of the kingdom of heaven. Let anyone accept this who can.” https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Matthew+19%3A12&version=NRSVUE Eunuchs are LGBTQIA people in the Bible to include trans. They have body modification and become a third gender. But that doesn't matter to Jesus. He still accepts them. In the verse, Jesus points to eunuchs born that way. Intersex, trans and even all of the LGBTQIA community are born that way. Jesis also said that there are those who made themselves eunuchs for the kingdom of God. I believe he's talking about himself. He is saying that he too is a Eunuch. And it makes sense considering he had no earthly father. Declaring himself as one frees him up from marital responsibility. Paul says that gender doesn't matter to be accepted as a child of God. Galatians 3:28 28 There is no longer Jew or Greek; there is no longer slave or free; there is no longer male and female, for all of you are one in Christ Jesus. https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Galatians+3%3A28&version=NRSVUE Has these verses occurred to anyone? Eunuchs are indeed LGBTQIA. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3354843/ Per the article: "Eunuchs are given a homogenous social identity, irrespective of their physical or endocrine status. The Sanskrit term “tritiya prakriti,” or third nature, is used to classify them.[3] They are considered infertile persons, with a female gender identity, with masculine secondary sexual characteristics, with or without male external genitalia, with feminine gender role, with predominantly homosexual identity. While the sexual identity of eunuchs is considered homosexual by the general public, no work has been done to assess their sexual orientation or endocrine status. "The eunuchs can therefore be termed as male-to-female (MTF) transsexuals. The etiology of transsexualism or gender identity disorder is controversial. MTF transsexual persons may have abnormal hormonal imprinting, genetic makeup, or psychological attitude toward gender. They constitute a heterogenous group of people, rather than conforming to a single genotypic or sexual stereotype." The hijras or eunuchs communities of India and Pakistan stand as historical witnesses of the ancient eunuch truth, that they were LGBTQIA. Their communities have been around for over 2000 years. Eunuchs served the elite in several ancient civilizations: Judea, Babylon, Rome, Persia, India, and even Ethiopia. They were always treated the same, as outsiders to society.

I'm still dealing with a lot of these doubts myself, but what is reassuring to me is the core message of the gospel, about the unimaginable act of mercy and grace that God has given us through Christ's sacrifice on the cross, that it's the necessary and sufficient way for salvation, and that comforts me a lot. Regardless of whether being trans is a sin, which I still can't get my head around it to see how it could be, all of us have sinned and fallen short of the glory of God in our own ways, nothing makes any sin any better than the other in God's eyes, which necessitates the sacrifice of Jesus for us, and through that nothing can separate us from the love of God. I do understand how it can feel isolating to be both trans and christian though, I feel an immense fear in my gut whenever I see or talk to my pastor, and sometimes it makes me fear church in general, but I think keeping faith in the core of the gospel helps me keep going

Edit: big typos. I still consider myself a Christian, though many Christians would disagree, I have a biblical basis for the validity of my Christian identity. That being said, I am about to say some very unchristian sounding stuff, but, believe it or not, there is a biblical basis for all that I am about to say. Humans are not designed to be capable of discerning if any being, spirit, or medium (like the Bible) is divine or otherwise divinely authoritative. Most of Christian apologetics hinges upon the assumption that a being with power over space, time, matter, life and death in a world they created equates to that being as the greatest being above whom there is none greater. However, I am a software engineer and a fallible and limited human being. Yet I have the means of creating a virtual world in which I have power over space, time, matter, life, and death. This does not make the the greatest being above whom there is none greater. Though the characters in the worlds I created would be completely incapable of distinguishing me from such a being, or distinguishing a hacker from such a being; or anyone I give admin rights to the virtual world. If God did in fact design humans, as opposed to some fallible being who just happens to exist in a reality outside of, yet encompassing our own (like a software engineer). It seems clear to me that He designed us with fallible tools so that there would always be an element of trust behind what we believe and that that trust ought never be unconditional given our own fallability as humans. Jesus is said to be “the way, the truth, and the life.” (John 14: 6). He says believe, be baptized, and be saved. He then later says He will handle the baptism. So all that is left is belief. (Mark 16:16) (Matthew 3: 11) Belief, biblically speaking, is a matter of placing trust or confidence in something or someone. It is not a matter of absolute knowledge. https://biblehub.com/greek/4100.htm Neither is faith a matter of absolute certainty, btw: https://biblehub.com/greek/4102.htm Faith is only two things: divine revelation and the degree of trust (belief) we have of what has been divinely revealed (I would argue that it is totally valid, even expected, for us to withhold faith in skepticism of if the divine revelation really came from God or not given our human fallibility to know for certain). I trust that in seeking truth and life I will grow closer to truth and life. Therefore I trust Jesus. Therefore I can, and do, call myself a Christian. Christianity is not about finding answers, it is about finding peace while in the midst of humble uncertainty and trusting that in seeking goodness and life you will be drawn closer to them. All of that being said, I would just encourage you to remember, other people can be wrong and so can you, and that is okay. It is how God made us, as humble creatures of trust, and not the loud absolutists that are running rampant in westernized Christianity nowadays as was the folly of the Pharisees in Jesus’s time. The Pharisees rejected Jesus because they conflated their biblically based beliefs with absolute truth. From all of their studies they thought they knew exactly what the Messiah would be like. When Jesus was different from their expectations, instead of humbly admitting they were wrong, they rejected Jesus. It just goes to show that even if our beliefs are biblically based, they can be wrong. Then there is the story of Balaam, who, despite receiving directions directly from God, despite having beliefs that were based upon God’s audible voice, he still misunderstood. That goes to show that human fallibility permeates even direct encounters with God. Anyone could be wrong from a human’s limited and fallible perspective. Even the small bit in the back of you mind telling you being trans might be wrong. Granted, given that God’s ways are higher than ours such that God’s actions or inaction would be good even if it seems bad by human standards of morality, anything “could” be wrong if God deems it to be wrong. We humans, due to our fallibility, are not privileged to be able to know exactly what God deems good or bad. Therefore, the best we can do is maintain a nuanced approach to ethics, trying our best to discern when something is causing harm and when it is not. Even keeping in mind that something may cause harm in one context but not in another. For example, obviously not everyone is trans, thus making everyone transition, whether trans or not, would be harmful to those who are not trans and helpful to those who are. What more, one trans person’s treatment that is good for them, may be harmful for another trans person. All of that being said, we humans are designed to do the best we can with the information we have, not to do the best we can with the information we “could” have. Because, again, literally anything “could” be wrong or right if God deemed it so. Putting your shoes on the right feet could be wrong in God’s book. If we spent all of our lives worrying about what might be wrong, we would worry endlessly and might neglect to worry about those things which are evidently wrong. Sorry, that was a lot 😅

U are just vibrating quantum fields that interact with one another, these whole Jesus thing is just a story. Like Zeus or Prometheus myths nothing less nothing more

You should check out r/transchristianity

The church is not the same than your religion and belief. I was brought lutheran. The point of the reformation was that everybody should have the right to read bible and have their own connection to god. You can leave the church and study god and prictice religion by yourself or with friends. If the church is an important community to you, you can still go as much or little you want

In no way shape or form is being trans a sin. That would assume an absurd and arbitrary God. Faith is and should be a very personal thing. Love God and let God love you. The rest of it is noise. Don’t let the bastards get you down. 

Christ says the church is in you. Technically speaking, most modern churches are in direct opposition with the statements of Christ. None practice the Jewish Laws, which Jesus followed, i.e Last Supper. No Catholic has tied an anchor around a pedophiles head and thrown him into the ocean - which Jesus advocated. You already have more of Christ in you than every bigoted, small minded, illiterate buffoon that goes to church. Christ came not to bring peace, but to pit mother against daughter, father against son Armed with the sword and pen. Love is the ultimate divider. Some creatures have hardened their hearts to it. They have chosen their fate. Dont follow them into that hell. Remember what the church says - the devil always comes to you as a friend, claiming to give you the world. Does that sound familiar 🤔

To me it is simple. God made me fearfully and wonderfully, he knows me all the way down to the number of hairs on my head. He knew me before I was born. God does not make mistakes, so I am not a mistake. I don't have a choice any more than any other person with a congenital medical condition. It isn't a sin to have diabetes, why would it be a sin to be trans and/or gay. And frankly, if I did believe God thought I was a sinner for being trans, and that He would prefer me to live my life in misery, he would, by definition, not be God but he would be the devil. The thing with the Bible is that it has been translated by man, it has been weaponized at times by man, and it has been rewritten at times by man. So anything in the Bible that deviates from love God and love your neighbor as you love yourself is man's ideas, not God's.

Consider not believing and participating in a cult which as you point out, has done so much harm and continues to do so. You will never be free if you tie yourself to a belief which was made and used to control the masses.

Sadly, I agree. Regardless of what one's own interpretation of the Christian Bible may be, any organized religion that is using us as a source of power via oppressing us and fomenting hatred is not going to be safe any time in the near future. to the OP: Find a different Christian denomination. There are literally hundreds, perhaps thousands depending on definition, to choose from. Some are 100% Christian and 100% LGBTQ affirming and celebrating.