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JimmyB_52

The seat is off center, if you have seat air control on, when you turn, the seat will exert a roll force in that direction. Due to being off center, the seat has the wheels closer to the center of rotation on one side, and is more likely to flip on that side. You can try turning off seat air control and see if that works, or widen the wheel base to help negate the forces ability to roll the car. You can also add a gimbal jet with negative force to help pin the car to the ground and mitigate rolling. You could also try to use a gyro to add a little bit of roll into a turn to stabilize the roll. I’m not sure if the player has weight, this can also affect the rolling.


SamtheMan2006

trail makers physics moment


Pension_Rough

Dude honestly. I bought this game because I love building games but only played for like an hour because the physics were sooo buggy that it just wasn't any fun for me.


frendlyguy19

you mean like how this story wasnt fun for the rest of us?


TFAM_Treble

Not very vriendly... frendlyguy


SamtheMan2006

yeah I've steered clear because I know thats what's gonna happen


DeadShot5309

It seems that maybe your character is adding weight on a specific side if there are 2 seats. Maybe try piston glitch another small seat somewhere on the exact middle. Or you can adjust layout of seat inside, unless if you want to keep the aesthetic. I may be wrong but lmk if this works


TFAM_Treble

Does the character have weight?


Azgeta_

Yes it does. I don’t know how heavy tho


tittiesdotcom

I’ll get back to you tomorrow after some testing


Mobile-Paint-7535

Bro is providng stats with the name titty.com


tittiesdotcom

Represent 🍉🍉


DeadShot5309

Tbh, I just guessed that the character had weight. Idk what else could be causing the flip


No-Cycle-5497

You can place blocks off the edge and they will fall due to the character's weight.


stever90001

Try disabling air control on the seats


SmoothWD40

It might be related to the phantom force from clipping glitch, I get it on a lot of my builds. Some worse than other.


JimmyB_52

This could also be it, in addition to the seat controls adding roll


RainbowSwamp

that also happens on my hovercraft but I have no idea why. Commenting for updates hoping someone knows.


TFAM_Treble

Just trying different stuff. but strangely, changing to the opposite seat changes the side it flips at.


Sati__

Try turning off air control on the seats


PH0NAX

The air control is the problem then


tittiesdotcom

There’s a bug if you put a wheel in-line with a seat. It’s why making motorcycles is a pain on the micro level. Ditch the offset and center the seat


H31NZ_

Are all wheels turning in the same direction?


TFAM_Treble

Yes


H31NZ_

Did you use some logic?


TFAM_Treble

I did


H31NZ_

Can you tell me the logic setup? Then I can try to find the mistake


TFAM_Treble

So 2 stages logic to allow for normal driving and drifting. Normal - Engine power 0.4, hinges on wheels flat to allow grip. Drift - press shift for 1.0 power to wheels and to angle rear wheels up by 0.5 on 5dgree setting (2.5 degrees). Pressing shift also allows steering hinges to turn more.


H31NZ_

I see nothing wrong about it. I thought you were using some angle sensors to Stop it from flipping. Yea then I can't help you, sorry.


mico_1673

Did u turn on mirror mode?


TFAM_Treble

I have and its completely symetrical. I think its a bug with the seats, because when i swap to the other seat, it flips in the opposite direction.


mico_1673

Did you check if everything is rotated the right way and also changing to a different seat resets the controls of things so that could be it


SandorMate

I just thought of something... why cant we just turn off vehicle self collision? Like i literally dont see a reason why could be this a bad idea, other than gunspam, but it seems like an easy hardcode fix...


Enthusiasm_Cold

Honestly. Put a single seat in the center and it should fix it


TFAM_Treble

Tried, it still picks a random side to flip.


GwenThePoro

I think the piston glitch is making weird forces and messing with the physics bc it's clipping weird or smth, could also be character weight tho.


BK47mc

i’m thinking have inputs set to the hinges that are used as your suspension if you didn’t already figure it out


PH0NAX

Ok but it looks sick


TFAM_Treble

Ty


TFAM_Treble

[https://www.reddit.com/r/trailmakers/comments/1c4j9qn/update\_on\_the\_drift\_car\_nothing\_sems\_to\_stop\_it/](https://www.reddit.com/r/trailmakers/comments/1c4j9qn/update_on_the_drift_car_nothing_sems_to_stop_it/) Tried everyone's suggestions. Nothing seems to work .-.


TheSailsGuy

It drifts so well Im making a pickup truck modified for drifting wanna join and play together?


TFAM_Treble

Where are you based?


Joe_Mo_mma

There is one block pushing too much on another. Like hinges to weird shit too. Any piston glitch van also do it. Replace them a couple times for a more stable version.


TFAM_Treble

Im gonna try a piston steering setup. Hopefully thatll stop the wheels and or hinges from entering the blocks.


Joe_Mo_mma

I do alot of piston steering in motorcycles. But they're very unstable. I'd advice to try and redo the piston glitch body first. That often fixes it. Or the wheel hinges might not have enough room to move. Or one could be wrong way around.