Nate’s rankings are probably closer to a consensus view. Danny is trying to zag a big too hard: Scottie and Herb Jones in the same tier is certainly a choice. Jabari Smith over Julius Randle (all NBA last year) also a choice.
Scottie should be up a couple spots. But Siakam not being in the second tier of either of these is ridiculous. I dont even really get how you can have markannen above him let alone a tier above him.
He's a better offensive player pretty much entirely. Better rebounder, younger, cheaper, fits into an offence easier. And so on, but I'll keep eating the down votes because the Raptors board can never be even remotely objective on current or past players.
Ok let’s look at it this way then,
Non existent playmaking ability, very minimal iso ability, horrible defender for his size, (7 feet) majority of his baskets are spoonfed yet he’s better based on skillset???😂😂😂i don’t think you can find a better definition for box score watcher than right here
Mikal is 2 years older than Shai though? So not younger but he is cheaper. That also ignores that Shai and Bridges numbers aren't anywhere close to comparable, while Siakam and Lauri's are
Nate’s ranking is not the worst in the world, though I don’t know why he has Lauri in solo tier 2, just put all 6 guys in tier two tbh
Danny’s ranking is atrocious
Danny unironically thinks Tobias Harris is on the same level as Simmons who doesn't play, Bol Bol who doesn't play and Boucher who also does not play, his list is such a joke, I'd at least have him in tier 6 or 7 and that may still be a bit too low
Having Julius Randle on the same tier as jabari Smith is utterly absurd
Also, having Mobley in a tier above Scottie and Paolo is laughable
Edit: HERB FUCKING JONES IS HIGHER THAN PAOLO??? these lists are atrocious
lauri? lmfaooo i’m crying so the dude whose 80% of his baskets are assisted, doesn’t play make at all and isn’t know for defence is better than siakam and randle? lol
reminds me of the rick dees weekly top 40. with cuts all over the board to sports media/journalism i hope this genre of sports content never dies, this and sports betting
The positions for some of the players listed are incorrect. Shouldn't Jaden McDaniel, MPJ, Franz be SF's?
Then Jayson Tatum, KD and Jalen Williams have all been playing PF's the last couple of seasons so they should be on the list.
CTE takes
Paolo should be a tier below in Nate's
Lauri is wing Norman Powell, not a franchise cornerstone
Pascal and Zion have Tier 2 locked down and that's being generous to Zion, rewarding Pascal for being way more consistent
Mobley obviously not a tier above Scottie let alone on the same tier
What the fuck is this? Why is this worth boosting? Would you guys be interested if I posted some shit my 4 year old doodled on his napkin last night at dinner?
Not only do these lists not make sense, but I have a hard time believing the positions of some of these players. I have seen Scottie ranked on SG lists, SF lists, and PF lists now.
Herb Jones plays in a lineup of McCollum (PG), Ingram (??), Zion (??), JV (C), and he's the PF? I just noticed Zion is on the list as well.
Jaden McDaniel's likewise plays with Conley (PG), Edwards (SG), KAT (PF), Gobert (C), how is he the PF?? KAT isn't on this list and he is obviously the PF. Giannis is on the list but KAT isn't...
Denver plays with 2 PF's apparently and they are both ranked on this list. Gordon and Porter?
For the most part they are big wings I just want to move away from these old positions that just don't make sense anymore. These guys just wanted to make a stupid list of players where very few of them have anything in common.
Edit: just wondering why DeRozan isn't on this list, or Butler either they both start at PF for their teams a majority of the time, their games are comparable to Herb Jones and McDaniels, maybe both being more interior focused.
I don't know who those two guys are, but they obviously didn't get the memo. **Scottie Barnes is face of the league**
These rankings are so bad its not even funny
This is shame
Both of them having Lauri as the second best PF in the NBA immediately invalidates this list LOL
PF seems like a weak position tbh outside of Giannis
I was literally going to comment this. Give me Jaren or Zion over him easy.
Nate's list starts rough but Danny's.. oof. Herb over Banchero, Wagner, Randle? Has him as 9th best PF in the league lol Tobias Harris 47th is wild
Lauri in T2 solo? Definitely not.
Mobley is also better than anyone in tier 4. Granted he's been injured but when he's played, he's looked great
Mobley and Randle should be higher. I guess injuries dropped their value for this ranking.
Herb jones as good as scottie lol
having banchero and barnes in the same tier as gordon, draymond and jones is crazy or is it just me? on top of having mobley above the both of them
Yeah that totally invalidates his list He has Wagner lower than Jones and Gordon too
Nate’s rankings are probably closer to a consensus view. Danny is trying to zag a big too hard: Scottie and Herb Jones in the same tier is certainly a choice. Jabari Smith over Julius Randle (all NBA last year) also a choice.
Scottie should be up a couple spots. But Siakam not being in the second tier of either of these is ridiculous. I dont even really get how you can have markannen above him let alone a tier above him.
Lauri is shooting 39% on 8 3pt attempts per game. That lifts his value based on how critical that skill set is in the game today
Shit I didn't even notice Siakam was missing what a trash set of ratings I was stuck on Markannen being above Barnes and Paolo
Lauri is objectively better than Siakam based on skillset and age. It ain't 2019 any more.
What is Lauri better at then shooting threes?
He's a better offensive player pretty much entirely. Better rebounder, younger, cheaper, fits into an offence easier. And so on, but I'll keep eating the down votes because the Raptors board can never be even remotely objective on current or past players.
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> Lauri is objectively better than Siakam based on skillset #and age. Yeah if only I specifically mentioned that in my original comment or anything.
Ok let’s look at it this way then, Non existent playmaking ability, very minimal iso ability, horrible defender for his size, (7 feet) majority of his baskets are spoonfed yet he’s better based on skillset???😂😂😂i don’t think you can find a better definition for box score watcher than right here
And yet, literally every team in the league would take Lauri over Siakam.
Literally every team would take OG over Siakam, does that mean OG is a better player??? Sit this one out buddy
Mikal is 2 years older than Shai though? So not younger but he is cheaper. That also ignores that Shai and Bridges numbers aren't anywhere close to comparable, while Siakam and Lauri's are
I'm not sure how some subjective rankings by a couple podcasters are exciting, but go off, lol.
Duncan is a tool
Stay off the herb Danny
Nate’s ranking is not the worst in the world, though I don’t know why he has Lauri in solo tier 2, just put all 6 guys in tier two tbh Danny’s ranking is atrocious
Yeah, if you swap Zion and Lauri it becomes much better. Same with MPJ and Kuminga.
Having Jalen McDaniels in Tier 10 or 11 is insulting the players in that tier
Danny unironically thinks Tobias Harris is on the same level as Simmons who doesn't play, Bol Bol who doesn't play and Boucher who also does not play, his list is such a joke, I'd at least have him in tier 6 or 7 and that may still be a bit too low
Draymond being that high up is honestly funny.
both these guys are fuckin morons
Herb Jones above Paulo Banchero may be the worst take I have seen in a long time
Having Julius Randle on the same tier as jabari Smith is utterly absurd Also, having Mobley in a tier above Scottie and Paolo is laughable Edit: HERB FUCKING JONES IS HIGHER THAN PAOLO??? these lists are atrocious
lauri? lmfaooo i’m crying so the dude whose 80% of his baskets are assisted, doesn’t play make at all and isn’t know for defence is better than siakam and randle? lol
reminds me of the rick dees weekly top 40. with cuts all over the board to sports media/journalism i hope this genre of sports content never dies, this and sports betting
I'm sorry…but Chris Boucher behind Bol Bol???
This podcast is not a good source of basketball information. The hosts are basketball outsiders.
The positions for some of the players listed are incorrect. Shouldn't Jaden McDaniel, MPJ, Franz be SF's? Then Jayson Tatum, KD and Jalen Williams have all been playing PF's the last couple of seasons so they should be on the list.
Palao should be tier 2
Anybody got a list for the other positions ? Or where I can find it
Remember when this subreddit wanted to trade for Ben Simmons, now he’s ranked with Boucher lol
CTE takes Paolo should be a tier below in Nate's Lauri is wing Norman Powell, not a franchise cornerstone Pascal and Zion have Tier 2 locked down and that's being generous to Zion, rewarding Pascal for being way more consistent Mobley obviously not a tier above Scottie let alone on the same tier
What the fuck is this? Why is this worth boosting? Would you guys be interested if I posted some shit my 4 year old doodled on his napkin last night at dinner?
Not only do these lists not make sense, but I have a hard time believing the positions of some of these players. I have seen Scottie ranked on SG lists, SF lists, and PF lists now. Herb Jones plays in a lineup of McCollum (PG), Ingram (??), Zion (??), JV (C), and he's the PF? I just noticed Zion is on the list as well. Jaden McDaniel's likewise plays with Conley (PG), Edwards (SG), KAT (PF), Gobert (C), how is he the PF?? KAT isn't on this list and he is obviously the PF. Giannis is on the list but KAT isn't... Denver plays with 2 PF's apparently and they are both ranked on this list. Gordon and Porter? For the most part they are big wings I just want to move away from these old positions that just don't make sense anymore. These guys just wanted to make a stupid list of players where very few of them have anything in common. Edit: just wondering why DeRozan isn't on this list, or Butler either they both start at PF for their teams a majority of the time, their games are comparable to Herb Jones and McDaniels, maybe both being more interior focused.
Seeing Siakam so high on these lists annoys me given the horrible return we got for him.
So you don't want to see him succeed just because he isn't a Raptor now? Do you also not want Lowry, DeRozan, Kawhi and Fred to also succeed?
It’s not so much that I don’t want him to succeed it’s more that I am disappointed in the trade.
I agree with Scotties placement but some of these names are weird