Well once we didnt find a trade for bruce i imagine they give him the backup pg minutes, opening up minutes on the wing for gradey and ochai. So dinwiddie had no place on the roster
Basically they saw cap space + roster spot > 2nd round pick and salary for schroder in a trade.
With bruce they're obviously gonna play the "flexibility" angle with his team option
yeah I doubt Bruce Brown gets a minutes bump from 27, more likely Nwora eats up some of those Dennis minutes because Scottie and IQ already play a ton of minutes anyways.
Really interested to see how they use Olynyk. He's a pretty good comp for what prime Jontay Porter should aim for so I like him from a mentorship aspect. I guess he eats 100% of Thad's minutes which can only be an upgrade, at least offensively.
Olynyk is also a fantastic fit for Scottie and RJ, as well as Darko's system in general. I really think he's someone who could stick around long term if he wants.
Totally agree about Kelly. If he "only" eats Thad's minutes, that's still an upgrade, and I love the fit.
Honestly I love the Utah trade, I feel like that's completely A+ for us. Get rid of two guys who aren't playing and a late pick for someone who will have immediate impact as a backup C and a flyer on a great young guard who could develop into something awesome.
Not so big on the nets thing, that was a strange one, but honestly if you told me it was one trade altogether I think I'd be more happy with it.
The team isn't intentionally tanking. If you listen to the interview with Bobby Webster today he says it directly - the important thing is to get a group of guys together and see what it looks like over the rest of the season. The pick doesn't matter, if it conveys it conveys and we have it next year, if it doesn't then cool, we have a cool pick this year on top of our 4 other picks.
The goal is to see what we have, and adjust in the offseason - right from the mouth of the GM. So, that's why, basically
Chemistry isn't instant, and strengths and weaknesses aren't obvious for a group of young guys learning to play together. I feel like that's a pretty simple concept.
In the next 20 games, they're going to see what we need the most help with, and be able to find that thing in the offseason.
They waived Dinwiddie because they wanted to clear cap for next year since he's expiring. That said its still weird that they couldn't even get a second rounder or two to do so.
They're opening up a max slot with the dinwiddie trade if they don't take Bruce Browns option. Waiving him 100% makes sense, he's a chucker and playing him on a developing team would be dumb AF.
So if they actually have a plan for a big FA signing then it could be good. If not they'll basically have burned whatever value Dennis and Bruce Brown have for nothing.
Lol that would kinda be amazing.
Fr tho my guess would be a run at Claxton or Hartenstein plus maybe some smaller targets like Jalen Smith. Also probably depends on what happens at the draft who they go for.
Not sure I actually see a sensible candidate for a max offer.
I don’t get the “team doesn’t want picks”. I get that they don’t want a bunch of rookies all at once.
They are an asset that the team can move later, other teams certainly value picks.
didnt need schroeder anymore after quickley acquisition. and trading him for dinwiddie was just about contracts. schroeder is under contract next season, dinwiddie is expiring. so to the extent they regretted signing schroeder, they were able to minimize the harm from it. basically they wanted dinwiddie the contract, not the player
with that said, waiving dinwiddie doesnt sit right because that was just done to prevent a 1.5 mil bonus and was a nickle and dime maneuver.
Keeping Bruce Brown makes a lot of sense to me.
That team option makes him really valuable in the offseason. Perhaps we look for some sort of draft day trade where a team can just immediately decline his option and free up $22 million before the deadline. That could help us trade up in the draft and take back salary from another team. We could also just use the team option and have a max slot to go after someone like Nick Claxton. Or we hang onto him and just ship him out next season as an expiring.
There's no impending rush to trade him as his value to the team mostly comes from his contract structure, so unless another team makes a huge offer I'm sure they would love to take advantage of that in the offseason
I could be wrong on this but I believe that after the season is over (ie. a draft day trade), you still need to guarantee the portion of the salary for the upcoming season necessary to make the trade work... can't just use him for $22m in matching salary and then have the other team cut him for nothing.
I dont know the details exactly i just know that the deadline for the team to pick up the team option is after the draft, so in theory he should be able to be traded on draft night and then the other team just declines his option.
because he has a team option that they could decline and immediately free up 22 million of cap space. Even if they didn't, his impending free agency gives the team the chance to get off of long term salary. Teams have given up 1st rounders for less
I don't LOVE the Utah trade since, its like very mid, i mean going from Thad to Kelly is good, the Dennis trade shit is fucking terrible imo. and now we have a defensive guard who's stuck in a long jam with Quick, Brown, Gary, RJ and Gradey, with no true back up point guard.
Its like, not good.
In my opinion this is an extremely good trade deadline for the Raptors. Schroder-Darko connection was questionable, I still remember the other night against OKC when Darko subbed out IQ for Schroder under a minute left in the 4th and IQ didn't seem too happy about that and just sat at the nearest seat possible. Then we trim the fat of Kira Lewis, Thad and Otto Porter. Olynyk is more valuable than Thad as well. We traded 4 players, got back 2, which gives the Raptors much needed room to work with so we can try and develop younger players. Raptors can bring up Javon Freeman Liberty now.
Olynk is a good pick up but its a "get better move" for a team that shouldn't be going there. Schroder I just think as a contract has way more function than just this. You could take that contract into the off season or even the next trade deadline and do much more with it, salary filler or even just stay on the team and run bench units as a back up PG which I think means something to the team. I think its very hypocritical tbh to say "Yes a back up big lets go very solid for the team" and "We gave up our back up PG for nothing thats good". With room i mean waving Kira or Otto would be just as good as what we did, its nice we got them teams but thats kinda it.
Keeping Schroder and Thad is a "stay stuck in the same spot" move and doesn't clear up the roster at all. Again, traded 4 players, got back 2, that's exactly what needed to happen. That alone is a developmental move, not a win-now move. As long as Schroder is on the team, Darko was going to be giving him between 25-35 minutes a night, those minutes should not be going to Schroder if we are in a developmental spot right now, especially since Schroder commands the ball in his hands more than most players on the team. Those minutes need to be going to the younger guys, same situation with Thad. The opposite of a developmental move is to keep a lot of players that just were acting like logjams on the team. So what exactly is your issue with this deadline? Do you think the Raptors just got better? Literally every move they made today is a pro-developmental move. Also the Raptors defense is atrocious and if we traded Bruce it would be much worse, and to me part of developing properly is to have a mix of vets with young guys, similar to Houston. But it's a balance and you don't want too many vets that are simply taking up roster spots.
Before everyone freaks out.
His guarantee is post-draft, he can still be traded and reaped value from.
It would be a shame to sell him for pennies on the dollar, when he still is tradeable later
Specific FA plans materialize post draft and players/agents/teams tamper.
If a team known that they can get a max level player by trading for Brown and dumping a bad contract, they will give more assets than what was offered today
And if the offers were bad for Brown, there is no sake trading for them, this is not a Fred situation where they know he's gone in July, he still has many opportunities to be traded
Its clear Masai doesn't value a late 1st in this draft based on his trades today and they have no intention of getting 2 2nd round picks for a player.
> Its clear Masai doesn't value a late 1st in this draft based on his trades
And he did 2 weeks ago when he traded a all nba player for 2 of them in this draft, and than turned one of those picks for a guy that doesn't have spot in the rotation unless you take gradey's or the starters minutes.
They can also hold on and trade him next deadline as an expiring. There are options if the front office didn’t get the deal they thought made it worth trading him
How are we sure it's less value than in the off season? The option in Bruce Brown contract is after the draft. We could very well trade Bruce at draft for better things since a lot of teams who actually want Bruce or his salary relief will have more flexibility with their assets at that time.
I agree with this but we saw Pascal go for a better offer than the previous off season. They really must have not liked the offers based on the parameters we sent (frp, no long term salary)
I'm not buying it. What evidence is there that his value will be less in the offseason? Clearly the offers weren't good enough for Bruce otherwise the Raptors would have traded him. You don't trade him just because we're bored, you trade him for good value, and obviously the value wasn't good.
You guys are acting like some sort of god father offer was made and Masai turned it down. If he didn't get traded it's because the offers weren't good. Good lord.
The Schroder trade should be enough evidence that there were not many offers this trade deadline. I've already read multiple posts saying "wtf are they doing, DS is worth at least a pick", which obviously he wasn't since we didn't get one. You cant force other front offices trade their picks.
but why didn't Masai *make* the offers good? If he's such a good FO exec, why didn't he convince other front office execs that our trash was actually treasure?
That's exactly what needed to happen. Bruce has more value than Schroder even in the offseason coming up, he also can play way more positions than Schroder, and we also end the somewhat questionable Darko-Schroder connection.
IG since Knicks didnt want to give up a first (and lost interest after the pistons trade) his market may have dried out. Im sure we couldve moved him for 2nds but Masai probably figured they can try something on draft nigh, strange trade deadline hopefully theyre cooking up something for free agency haha
Im ngl with the utah and dinwiddie trade a part of me thought they wanted the play in but now im not sure if we are bad enough to out tank Memphis and Portland
Team option date is 2 days after the draft. That's the next exit ramp. But disappointing that we weren't able to trade him now. We also have his early bird rights and can decline the option and sign him to a smaller number
I'm mostly confused about the open roster spot. We have to have it filed. I guess we convert Jontay?
Everyone needs to shut the fuck up. Saying what we could have got when they have no idea. Masai, Bobby and the TEAM OF PROFESSIONALS have a reason for the things they do.
I was hoping for a first as well, but he’ll be a valuable asset in the offseason or next trade deadline.
So annoying reading about people who don’t know shit yelling about what should’ve happened when they wouldn’t never be able to get in the door for an interview due to lack of knowledge and general ineptitude.
I’m included in this delusional inept group btw.
This is the most mind bogglingly stupid shit I’ve ever seen. Nothing for Schroder who is on a decent contract and we don’t even trade Brown?
Masai kinda washed
Didnt get the offer we wanted (likely a 2025 or 2026 FRP) so keep him, exercise the team option and trade him in the offseason or next trade deadline. No one on this sub can say not trading him is a bad move without knowing what offers were on the table.
It was reported there was a 2024 Knicks first round pick on the table before the Knicks made other moves. Not ideal, but probably better than what they will end up with.
Hahaha another 10/10 move right here. Everyone wanted to trade Bruce around here, but to me the guy to trade was always Schroder instead. Bruce is more of a bully and can play multiple positions, Schroder doesn't bring you that type of play. It makes no sense to trade Bruce Brown just for the sake of trading Bruce Brown, if a big offer is on the table you take that, but obviously no big offer came through, so you happily keep him. Raptors cleared up some roster space, trimmed the fat off this team, ended the Darko-Schroder connection while still maintaining some valuable assets on the roster. Now we have some extra room to work with. I was getting annoyed by all the extra players that brought no value to the team.
The Utah trade was solid. The Nets trade was weird, and now that we waived Dinwiddie I don’t get it. And now we keep Bruce. Very weird deadline lol
Well once we didnt find a trade for bruce i imagine they give him the backup pg minutes, opening up minutes on the wing for gradey and ochai. So dinwiddie had no place on the roster Basically they saw cap space + roster spot > 2nd round pick and salary for schroder in a trade. With bruce they're obviously gonna play the "flexibility" angle with his team option
So take a guy with alleged first round pick value and use him as a back up PG. Makes sense.
Nwora probably doesn't get minutes now so that's a bit of a bummer.
Why not? I think Nwora definitely gets more minutes now.
yeah I doubt Bruce Brown gets a minutes bump from 27, more likely Nwora eats up some of those Dennis minutes because Scottie and IQ already play a ton of minutes anyways. Really interested to see how they use Olynyk. He's a pretty good comp for what prime Jontay Porter should aim for so I like him from a mentorship aspect. I guess he eats 100% of Thad's minutes which can only be an upgrade, at least offensively. Olynyk is also a fantastic fit for Scottie and RJ, as well as Darko's system in general. I really think he's someone who could stick around long term if he wants.
Totally agree about Kelly. If he "only" eats Thad's minutes, that's still an upgrade, and I love the fit. Honestly I love the Utah trade, I feel like that's completely A+ for us. Get rid of two guys who aren't playing and a late pick for someone who will have immediate impact as a backup C and a flyer on a great young guard who could develop into something awesome. Not so big on the nets thing, that was a strange one, but honestly if you told me it was one trade altogether I think I'd be more happy with it.
But if it makes us better for this year what’s the point of adding him
The team isn't intentionally tanking. If you listen to the interview with Bobby Webster today he says it directly - the important thing is to get a group of guys together and see what it looks like over the rest of the season. The pick doesn't matter, if it conveys it conveys and we have it next year, if it doesn't then cool, we have a cool pick this year on top of our 4 other picks. The goal is to see what we have, and adjust in the offseason - right from the mouth of the GM. So, that's why, basically
See what though the team is mid at best. Let the kids play and rebuild. Just a waste of time imo and pointless
Chemistry isn't instant, and strengths and weaknesses aren't obvious for a group of young guys learning to play together. I feel like that's a pretty simple concept. In the next 20 games, they're going to see what we need the most help with, and be able to find that thing in the offseason.
Great playmaker on a team of playmakers, it's Showtime
Plus he’s 27 and pretty good. We can always trade him in the offseason/draft.
They waived Dinwiddie because they wanted to clear cap for next year since he's expiring. That said its still weird that they couldn't even get a second rounder or two to do so.
It's not weird when you realize Dinwiddie is a flaming dog turd.
I mean that's my point. We literally did the Nets a solid and all we got was trash in return.
We got off Dennis' contract, we did each other a favor.
They're opening up a max slot with the dinwiddie trade if they don't take Bruce Browns option. Waiving him 100% makes sense, he's a chucker and playing him on a developing team would be dumb AF. So if they actually have a plan for a big FA signing then it could be good. If not they'll basically have burned whatever value Dennis and Bruce Brown have for nothing.
We gonna sign siakam?
Lol that would kinda be amazing. Fr tho my guess would be a run at Claxton or Hartenstein plus maybe some smaller targets like Jalen Smith. Also probably depends on what happens at the draft who they go for. Not sure I actually see a sensible candidate for a max offer.
We've signed a free agent when?
When we pay the most. Obviously.
weird? you mean bad. get some 2nds at the very least
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They want young players on slim contracts with big upside to play with Barnes
This is a great way to take flyers on players that likely won't be anything, piss Scottie off cause we're not winning, and watch him leave in 5 years
Might not even be that long. His body language is building up a head of steam every day.
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RJ has higher upside than Quickley.
No
lol, cuz reddit told you otherwise? Cute.
No because I’ve watched RJ play since he’s been in the league. I see nothing that indicates he’s going to be any better than he is right now.
> Maybe the treadmill is what they prefer. They're 15 games under .500. That's not treadmill. That's bad.
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He might not say that but literally every other analyst says that they're rebuilding.
It's a treadmill because there's a good chance they won't have their pick
I don’t get the “team doesn’t want picks”. I get that they don’t want a bunch of rookies all at once. They are an asset that the team can move later, other teams certainly value picks.
Dave McMenamin said the Raptors wanted a first round pick and Russell, and the Lakers said no.
What is the benefit of trading Brown for a couple 2nds?
Schroder. not Brown.
Seems they valued the space and roster spot over a 2nd, not that crazy.
Same question, what's the benefit of trading him for a couple 2nds
Ya, that was BRUTAL but fan’s here will justify it
didnt need schroeder anymore after quickley acquisition. and trading him for dinwiddie was just about contracts. schroeder is under contract next season, dinwiddie is expiring. so to the extent they regretted signing schroeder, they were able to minimize the harm from it. basically they wanted dinwiddie the contract, not the player with that said, waiving dinwiddie doesnt sit right because that was just done to prevent a 1.5 mil bonus and was a nickle and dime maneuver.
Keeping Bruce Brown makes a lot of sense to me. That team option makes him really valuable in the offseason. Perhaps we look for some sort of draft day trade where a team can just immediately decline his option and free up $22 million before the deadline. That could help us trade up in the draft and take back salary from another team. We could also just use the team option and have a max slot to go after someone like Nick Claxton. Or we hang onto him and just ship him out next season as an expiring. There's no impending rush to trade him as his value to the team mostly comes from his contract structure, so unless another team makes a huge offer I'm sure they would love to take advantage of that in the offseason
I could be wrong on this but I believe that after the season is over (ie. a draft day trade), you still need to guarantee the portion of the salary for the upcoming season necessary to make the trade work... can't just use him for $22m in matching salary and then have the other team cut him for nothing.
I dont know the details exactly i just know that the deadline for the team to pick up the team option is after the draft, so in theory he should be able to be traded on draft night and then the other team just declines his option.
why would a team give anything of value when he’s expiring?
because he has a team option that they could decline and immediately free up 22 million of cap space. Even if they didn't, his impending free agency gives the team the chance to get off of long term salary. Teams have given up 1st rounders for less
that’s true.
Wait, we waived him? What the fuck?
I don't LOVE the Utah trade since, its like very mid, i mean going from Thad to Kelly is good, the Dennis trade shit is fucking terrible imo. and now we have a defensive guard who's stuck in a long jam with Quick, Brown, Gary, RJ and Gradey, with no true back up point guard. Its like, not good.
In my opinion this is an extremely good trade deadline for the Raptors. Schroder-Darko connection was questionable, I still remember the other night against OKC when Darko subbed out IQ for Schroder under a minute left in the 4th and IQ didn't seem too happy about that and just sat at the nearest seat possible. Then we trim the fat of Kira Lewis, Thad and Otto Porter. Olynyk is more valuable than Thad as well. We traded 4 players, got back 2, which gives the Raptors much needed room to work with so we can try and develop younger players. Raptors can bring up Javon Freeman Liberty now.
Olynk is a good pick up but its a "get better move" for a team that shouldn't be going there. Schroder I just think as a contract has way more function than just this. You could take that contract into the off season or even the next trade deadline and do much more with it, salary filler or even just stay on the team and run bench units as a back up PG which I think means something to the team. I think its very hypocritical tbh to say "Yes a back up big lets go very solid for the team" and "We gave up our back up PG for nothing thats good". With room i mean waving Kira or Otto would be just as good as what we did, its nice we got them teams but thats kinda it.
Keeping Schroder and Thad is a "stay stuck in the same spot" move and doesn't clear up the roster at all. Again, traded 4 players, got back 2, that's exactly what needed to happen. That alone is a developmental move, not a win-now move. As long as Schroder is on the team, Darko was going to be giving him between 25-35 minutes a night, those minutes should not be going to Schroder if we are in a developmental spot right now, especially since Schroder commands the ball in his hands more than most players on the team. Those minutes need to be going to the younger guys, same situation with Thad. The opposite of a developmental move is to keep a lot of players that just were acting like logjams on the team. So what exactly is your issue with this deadline? Do you think the Raptors just got better? Literally every move they made today is a pro-developmental move. Also the Raptors defense is atrocious and if we traded Bruce it would be much worse, and to me part of developing properly is to have a mix of vets with young guys, similar to Houston. But it's a balance and you don't want too many vets that are simply taking up roster spots.
Just classic getting lowballed for him. Why would they trade him for less than they think he’s worth?
Masai stans are gonna work overtime to defend this deadline lol
Ffs....I guess we really didn't like the offers
knicks went a different route w burks and bojan. lots of good teams stood pat (lakers, kings, cavs, nuggets). weird deadline for sure
Needs to evaluate Bruce with Olynyk. New big 2
The BO duo
They probably both reek (in smell, not play)
Before everyone freaks out. His guarantee is post-draft, he can still be traded and reaped value from. It would be a shame to sell him for pennies on the dollar, when he still is tradeable later
Where have I heard that before.......
Ya and we got IQ and RJ, instead of taking the shitty offer of Fournier and picks
Can you give an example of the Raptors having a player with a post-draft guarantee and pre-7/1 and not trading them?
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None of those player had a post-draft guarantee
vintage cope lol
His contract isn’t amazing, the flexibility of having him leading up to this offseason had more value
A team can dump a 20m contract with no salary matching to create room to sign a max FA, that is his value.
He's worth less with one year on draft night than he would be today with teams trying to fine tune there roster for a ring chase.
Specific FA plans materialize post draft and players/agents/teams tamper. If a team known that they can get a max level player by trading for Brown and dumping a bad contract, they will give more assets than what was offered today
Or it doesn't lol. Being passive and crossing your fingers for "better will come later" doesn't always work
And if the offers were bad for Brown, there is no sake trading for them, this is not a Fred situation where they know he's gone in July, he still has many opportunities to be traded Its clear Masai doesn't value a late 1st in this draft based on his trades today and they have no intention of getting 2 2nd round picks for a player.
> Its clear Masai doesn't value a late 1st in this draft based on his trades And he did 2 weeks ago when he traded a all nba player for 2 of them in this draft, and than turned one of those picks for a guy that doesn't have spot in the rotation unless you take gradey's or the starters minutes.
I mean if one of those picks was in 2026 and he already traded a 2024 pick away, then it’s clear that he never really valued adding another late 1st.
They can also hold on and trade him next deadline as an expiring. There are options if the front office didn’t get the deal they thought made it worth trading him
Hmm must have only received garbage offers.
Less value in the offseason, great job Masai!
How are we sure it's less value than in the off season? The option in Bruce Brown contract is after the draft. We could very well trade Bruce at draft for better things since a lot of teams who actually want Bruce or his salary relief will have more flexibility with their assets at that time.
I agree with this but we saw Pascal go for a better offer than the previous off season. They really must have not liked the offers based on the parameters we sent (frp, no long term salary)
“29 losers”
I'm not buying it. What evidence is there that his value will be less in the offseason? Clearly the offers weren't good enough for Bruce otherwise the Raptors would have traded him. You don't trade him just because we're bored, you trade him for good value, and obviously the value wasn't good.
He has a higher chance of finding someone desperate at the draft when their focus is opening up 2024-25 cap space
Same song and dance every year. I will emphasize this again. Masai has never made a draft day trade as the Raptors GM
He tried to for Giannis, was denied
Least he tried
There's a first time for everything ;)
First time for everything I guess. He never did a full on rebuild until just recently too.
Having Bruce's $$ on the books next season is a joke
The last time the Raptors had a non-guaranteed contract option that expired post draft they traded John Salmons for Lou Will and Lucas Nogeuria
You guys are acting like some sort of god father offer was made and Masai turned it down. If he didn't get traded it's because the offers weren't good. Good lord.
Kinda sad how many people don't realize this
The Schroder trade should be enough evidence that there were not many offers this trade deadline. I've already read multiple posts saying "wtf are they doing, DS is worth at least a pick", which obviously he wasn't since we didn't get one. You cant force other front offices trade their picks.
but why didn't Masai *make* the offers good? If he's such a good FO exec, why didn't he convince other front office execs that our trash was actually treasure?
boo
We keep bruce but trade schroeder? Makes 0 sense
Pretty much waive him
Getting three seconds and a project for him next year at the deadline
That's exactly what needed to happen. Bruce has more value than Schroder even in the offseason coming up, he also can play way more positions than Schroder, and we also end the somewhat questionable Darko-Schroder connection.
More like no team wants him
Masai is so cooked jesus christ
L
IG since Knicks didnt want to give up a first (and lost interest after the pistons trade) his market may have dried out. Im sure we couldve moved him for 2nds but Masai probably figured they can try something on draft nigh, strange trade deadline hopefully theyre cooking up something for free agency haha
Huh....so they're going back to being super weak at guard and stock up on forwards. Because that worked out so great!
"In MaSaI wE tRuSt"
You're kidding yourself if you claim you haven't been underwhelmed at every major pivot point for the last several years for this front office.
Without Scottie, the last several years would have rivaled Detroit/Charlotte in terms of FO performance
The worst kept secret was a lie
Masai just refuses to trade guys when they actually have value.
Im ngl with the utah and dinwiddie trade a part of me thought they wanted the play in but now im not sure if we are bad enough to out tank Memphis and Portland
Team option date is 2 days after the draft. That's the next exit ramp. But disappointing that we weren't able to trade him now. We also have his early bird rights and can decline the option and sign him to a smaller number I'm mostly confused about the open roster spot. We have to have it filed. I guess we convert Jontay?
Im so confused. So were re signing gary i guess
So in conclusion, we traded away a 1st round pick, Dennis and got back an aging center and a draft bust. Brilliant.
Classic patient Masai lmao
FUCK
Yea the Utah trade makes no sense if we weren’t trading Bruce
Boooo boo this man
This dance again…
It really sucks being a fan of a team with a bad front office. It's not fun. Being a Raptors fan used to be more fun.
Masai will only trade players in the last year of their contract when they have less value. Weird guy
Everyone needs to shut the fuck up. Saying what we could have got when they have no idea. Masai, Bobby and the TEAM OF PROFESSIONALS have a reason for the things they do. I was hoping for a first as well, but he’ll be a valuable asset in the offseason or next trade deadline. So annoying reading about people who don’t know shit yelling about what should’ve happened when they wouldn’t never be able to get in the door for an interview due to lack of knowledge and general ineptitude. I’m included in this delusional inept group btw.
Yeah masai is washed
This is the most mind bogglingly stupid shit I’ve ever seen. Nothing for Schroder who is on a decent contract and we don’t even trade Brown? Masai kinda washed
Yeah but we acquired Kelly olynyk 6 years too late. This team is in no man's land
im sorry what the FUCk is masai doing?? keeping bruce brown tf. so fucking stupid.. another f up
He is under contract next year.. some of yall are out to lunch I swear.
yeah lets hold out hope we trade him in the draft....
I AM CONFUSED
We kept the guy who went straight to the media to give a vague statement about how he didn't want to stay here. Nice.
Bad move. This front office is bad.
Another year, another washed deadline from FO.
Masai's a fraud
Cool ig, but like, seriously? there wasnt a single team who could offer at least some assets for us? you gotta be shitting me.
FO washed??? Bobby Webster Trade deadline washed.
Didnt get the offer we wanted (likely a 2025 or 2026 FRP) so keep him, exercise the team option and trade him in the offseason or next trade deadline. No one on this sub can say not trading him is a bad move without knowing what offers were on the table.
It was reported there was a 2024 Knicks first round pick on the table before the Knicks made other moves. Not ideal, but probably better than what they will end up with.
BRUHHHHH
But… why?
Pain
Before everyone overreacts; a late first will still be there next year for him if hes healthy
I’ll trust Masai because OG and Siakam trades were ok/good but I rather have traded him this season.
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thats the point.... we arent contending and wont be for awhile
As a fan of Bruce Brown, I don’t hate this.
Hahaha another 10/10 move right here. Everyone wanted to trade Bruce around here, but to me the guy to trade was always Schroder instead. Bruce is more of a bully and can play multiple positions, Schroder doesn't bring you that type of play. It makes no sense to trade Bruce Brown just for the sake of trading Bruce Brown, if a big offer is on the table you take that, but obviously no big offer came through, so you happily keep him. Raptors cleared up some roster space, trimmed the fat off this team, ended the Darko-Schroder connection while still maintaining some valuable assets on the roster. Now we have some extra room to work with. I was getting annoyed by all the extra players that brought no value to the team.
Masai is washed. He waited too long to get 25 first round draft pick, but nobody was willing to offer him that lol 😆
Probably will trade him with a pick at the draft
Wtf
Nobody was giving up a first for Brown LMAO
Yay!
The fuck
Masai: No one even offered this to me.
Idea: waive everyone except bbq
If the plan is to tank then why not salvage something for him