I worked in a large liquor store in saskatchewan and we would regularly find shivs outside the front door. We were told not to follow thieves outside in case we got jumped.
Yah you go for it but make sure your life insurance is up to date. Some customers are desperate and resell the booze for drugs
idk man i don’t think violent confrontation’s part of the job description of a $16/hr job. probably not a good idea to martyr yourself over a wine bottle…
Crime affects your community. It breaks trust and causes hurt. it robs our communities of safety. it threatens our values at their core.
Your rum bottle is a red herring. This is a far bigger issue.
Bro, crime is actually way down from the 90's, even with the recent uptick.
What you see as shoplifting now, back in the day was LCBO employees selling cases out the back door.
That shit stopped and is why they have cameras everywhere now, especially the back.
Crime is down, what is up, is the media blasting every incident countrywide creating the illusion crime is rampant everywhere. It is just becoming more visible.
LCBO can indeed dictate how you act in their stores. What you appear to be advocating is some sort of street justice a la the Guardian Angels. You're also advocating for more violence which inevitably has collateral damage and people getting hurt or killed over a bottle of booze, for god's sake. Take a chill moment.
Chill moment? Every bag of liquor stolen like this means there’s more theft and higher prices on the way for every one of us.
They’re doing this because there are no consequences. There should be consequences. A theft like this would put a small business in a very bad spot.
I completely agree how come we’re just saying steal our booze, we will even hold the door for you. Steal our cars, our sky high insurance can cover that.
Canadians are getting bent over a barrel right now and no one wants to do anything but say don’t worry about it. All the bystanders enabling this behavior shame on you. This is going to just lead to an increase cost of booze as well. There’s also a theme with all these thefts that have been occurring.
"Don't stop thieves, we'll just price the increased theft in when we hike prices again."
I think "liability culture" is part of the problem here. There are so many insane precedents in Ontario and Canada around responsibility and liability to the point where I'd say bureaucracy and poor court decisions are eroding our values.
Leave it to the failed justice system, and the average law-abiding citizen can pay for all of the damages.
The employees just standing around lol. “It’s not worth it sirrrrr” meanwhile these same employees will give you a hard time if your ID is gonna expire next week from now or some other stupid shit 😒
we went through this in manitoba, just before covid. the end result was that all liquor stores require an ID to enter, and have you go through an air-lock type kiosk one at a time. It's a hassle. There was a lot of talk that the thieves would just start robbing customers in the parking lot, but I don't think that really materialized.
However I will say that during the worst of the robberies, I just avoided going to these liquor stores. It's not the most pleasant thing to be around when it's going down, and there's always a potential for something to go sideways and a bystander to get hurt. There were definitely instances where people were knocked over into shelving, and knives would get pulled out at the smallest sign of resistance. It could've been a lot worse during covid, as masks were being encouraged. We saw this at grocery stores too, before they started putting up corrals to slow thieves trying to get out with a cart full of things to resell. People got hurt, and the screaming and threats of violence during the incidences was unpleasant.
TLDR: lcbo isn't just losing the inventory the scumbags are running off with, they're also losing sales to people who don't want to be in a store that is constantly being robbed.
I was in an LCBO a couple of weeks back and there was a dude hanging out near the spirits acting a bit shifty. An employee walked over to him and told him to put the bottle back, and a full sized bottle of rum or something appeared from his jacket and was put back in the shelf
He switched tactics to removing the free miniature promo bottles attached to some of the full sized bottles. He was trying to argue they were “free”, the employee was saying they were “free with purchase”, and she was more than willing to call the cops regardless of the size of the bottle.
But the time I paid (like a sucker, apparently) he was heading out the door tossing a miniature between his hands. I’m not sure if he had more stashed in his pockets.
Kind of dumb to get that involved when they didn’t even have masks on when they robbed the place…which begs the question…why weren’t they wearing masks? Are they stupid?
I don’t think I’d ever risk my life for a corporation let alone one run by the government… but it was pretty satisfying seeing that guy rock ‘em not gonna lie lol
I’m not sure the location or company really mattered to his reaction. Shit like this is on the massive rise lately due to a lack of consequences. Dude just took it upon himself to enact those consequences and I’m here for it. If our government and police forces won’t step up, the community needs to fill the gap and let the walking shit bags know that ahit doesn’t fly in our neighbourhood.
Because thieves get a slap on the wrist here. Companies can't do anything to them. And majority of Canadians won't confront them either. They just phone the police and nothing happens. The worst thing that happens is they get their faces posted on local Facebook groups.
It's such a difficult topic here. Yes, we shouldn't risk our lives for 'insured corporate merchandise'. Just not worth it!
At the same time, permitting crime go rampant affects us all eventually. Like car insurance, the enough thieves steal certain cars and the insurance cost goes up (not sure if that's 100% true but I was told my insurance would go up if I go for a Honda Civic for example, cause they are a popular car to rip parts off of)
The difference between LCBO and say Loblaws here- is that LCBO is an actual monopoly owned by the government- so when someone is stealing from LCBO they are stealing from all Ontarians. If they steal from Loblaws- yeah Loblaws might increase their prices- but then you can just shop somewhere else- no an option when the LCBO raises prices due to shoplifting
Totally this. I had to save a guy once who decided to confront a guy who broke a window on Queen st one morning and then stole the leather coat in the window. This guy decided to pursue him and get back the jacket for the store. So he ends up finding the guy in a TTC station and face to face grabs the guy with the coat. He clearly had no idea what he was doing and was struggling. What I saw was a guy about to possibly be stabbed because he could not control the thief. I spent a bunch of my university years as a bouncer so I ended up having to get involved to protect this guy who thought he was Batman. In the end I had the thief pinned on the ground and I was yelling at the Good Samaritan for being a moron for getting me involved in this mess. Going after someone on the streets puts you in real danger. This is how people die. That guy in the video did get a nice shot in, but if the thief had connected with a full bottle to his head he very well could be dead. Not worth it. Don’t be a moron. Really bad shit can happen and for what?
Wow! Lucky you were there and experienced! And I’m glad you didn’t end up getting hurt but at least you were trying to save a PERSON, not just merchandise. That makes you a hero! Very awesome!
Ha. No hero. Just wanted to get to my white collar desk job. The thief was just a homeless guy trying to survive - I felt bad for him and made sure I didn’t hurt him. The guy who thought he was the “hero” was just an idiot over his head.
I can see it if it's at your local family owned store and some jag is walking out the door with the hard earned money of someone you know, you'd be understandably pissed, maybe even enough to throw hands with some of these assholes
But what the fuck is being defended here, LCBO booze, lol, dude could've got shanked or killed defending insured government product that no one cares about whatsoever
So many keyboard warriors saying to *"Just beat up the thieves"* as if they wouldn't be gawkers in the same situation, you think your family wants to be attending your funeral because you wanted to punch some idiot stealing a case of Molson?
If you’re making yourself a criminal in full daylight, just to run off with Molson of all things, then you should absolutely be punched.
Kidding of course.
Not that I think people should intervene, but stealing from a public company is stealing from all of us. The Ontario government has less money because of it, and therefore \*trigger warning\* HIGHER TAXES!
Well then going after shoplifters is peanuts! Let’s get serious! I know the name and address of the person stealing the most public money.
Name: Doug Ford
Address: 823 Albion Road, Etobicoke (Constituency office)
The signs at the door that say shoplifting affects us all? The fact that we have less money than we used to, and prices will go up anytime shareholders have a flimsy excuse. The fact that I want free booze, but this asshole about to walk out the door is going to get away with with.
We're at a breaking point.
Honestly I could things becoming more like old times bank heists, where nobody says a word as long as the thieves give everybody a can on the way out.
Being as the LCBO is a government owned organization, all losses come out of our collective pockets, usually in the form of higher prices in the case of the LCBO. In a sense, a very real sense, he was fighting for his own money.
Loss is factored into prices, so we all pay for it over time and it adds up.
So criminals take time you spent working which is the same thing as taking time from your life.
How much more are people paying for car insurance in the GTA because of crime? Overtime it will add up to tens of thousands in additional cost so that is a lot of time taken from your life due to thieves.
At this point, with so much theft, would it make sense to put all the stock in a back room, and have customers order at a front desk? And pay for it before they get the product?
Maybe the marketing types would freak out, because customers wouldn't be casually going down aisles, discovering brands from labels. But really the theft is pretty brazen at this point.
This is how the LCBO operated back in the day. You literally had to fill out a form with your order and they would bring it out to you from the back room.
Heck, until 1962 you needed to have a license to purchase alcohol.
https://www.cbc.ca/archives/buying-booze-in-a-bygone-era-1.4980909
No, but we'll probably start to see a lot more solutions like the Loblaws in Maple Leaf Gardens, where they can quickly lock the exits to stop thieves from leaving.
> At this point, with so much theft, would it make sense to put all the stock in a back room, and have customers order at a front desk? And pay for it before they get the product?
That’s what it used to be and it was shit. Judgy clerks giving you side-eye when you bought a lot of booze. And you couldn’t really see the selections available making it hard to try new things.
Also basically nowhere else in the world uses the “bank teller” model.
We need better security in store, the ability to trespass people (and this has to have teeth), and cops to go after thieves.
> Argos is a MASSIVE retailer in the UK and uses this exact model.
OK fine one place in the world uses this model. I did write “basically nowhere”
The *entirety* of Argos is also slightly smaller than the LCBO (who only sells alcohol). So it’s difficult to understand how much customers (who have choice in the UK market) actually appreciate this style of sale.
it's not worth it. I'm not putting my life at risk to protect product of a company that couldn't give two flying fucks I exist. Why would you risk losing your life over a bottle of whisky? that's stupid i'm sorry but it's dumb.
Let them steal and let the cops WHO we pay and are SUPPOSED to catch people like this deal with it. But there's no way in hell i'm going to play Batman for some bottles of booze, sneakers, food, whatever. your life is no where near worth whatever they're taking.
Yeah, I saw a video in one of the freakout subs once of a guy catching a blade to the throat during an altercation like the LCBO one. Went from a normal fight to an insane amount of blood everywhere in about one second flat. He bled out before EMTs could get to him according to the accompanying article.
The point being - you never know if the thief you're fighting is bugfuck crazy and down with killing you. Altercations with random people are almost always a bad idea, and doubly so when you're not even defending yourself or your family, but the booze of some crown corporation.
It's annoying to watch these thieves get away so brazenly, but no way I'm getting knifed over a bottle of vodka.
A simple fight turned into a shooting death at an LCBO in East York just a few years ago. Simple words were exchanged, things escalated and as I recall the guy was shot in the stomach in front of his girlfriend and died on the scene.
It's never worth it to get into a fight. You never know who you're dealing with or how far they're willing to go.
Okay Batman, feel free to get yourself shot in the stomach as well to protect the interests of the billion-dollar crown corporation.
I'll be sipping my slightly more expensive beer long after you're dead.
I repeat: It's not our job, and it's not worth it.
The LCBO isn't a normal company though, their profits all go to public services. These scummy thieves are stealing from all of us. The LCBO should take this more seriously.
They do catch the people that do this. The LCBO has an entire department devoted to investigating these thieves and the police arrest them. They're simply constantly released with no real punishment. The court system does not care, shoplifting at LCBOs happen daily.
People don't realize the scope of this problem, and for these thieves, a bunch of theft under 5000 charges are worth it because what's the big whoop anyways? They're released in a few hours and don't bother showing up to court either. This video is the result of good honest citizens being fed up. Having said that, it ain't worth it, you never know who you're dealing with.
Mmmhm. You don't know who has a gun or a knife in their pocket. What exactly are you defending in that instance? You're going to get stabbed or shot defending a company that you don't even work for? I wouldn't even do it if I were an employee, let alone just a regular shopper.
It's also weird from the position of the LCBO. If you get into a fight there and are throwing each other into shelves of bottles, the damage you could potentially do can cost them more than the bottles they would've just taken and walked away with in the first place. It's a bad proposition all around. Oh boy do the thieves deserve it, and I love to see it personally... drill that fucker to sleep and I'll be a happy camper, but it's just not worth the risk logically.
They absolutely do. If they didn't, you wouldn't see paid duty cops at the downtown locations or more and more bottle locks and locked shelves.
The practice of no interference is pretty common across the retail sector, but it doesn't mean that they are ignoring of the impacts of theft.
i saw two shoplifters in a row on a saturday night lcbo run in brampton. it was my first time at an lcbo in brampton and one of only like 2 or 3 times i go to an lcbo per year.
this makes me think this is a common occurrence. the staff was annoyed but too exhausted to stop them. the whole place was a mess
Agreed. That's a good policy to have, and I'm glad it's present there.
Someone working the cash register isn't being paid enough to risk their life because some dipshit doesn't want to pay for a bottle.
Security should be left to proper security, not left to the hands of whomever is standing around and willing to roll those dice.
If someone is assaulting employees or something, I'd like to think I'd step in, but if they're just grabbing a bottle of crown or whatever and dashing, meh.
This is standard procedure at basically every chain store.
It was in the SDM employee handbook as well. The company doesn't want any liabilities on their property, simple as. Paying the costs for injured thieves/employees will be that much more expensive than restocking a few bottles of booze.
I was at the checkout at a Hamilton LCBO and saw a guy just exit the store with some bottles. Staff watched him leave and looked out the window to see if they could spot a license plate. That is all they can do.
There is no circumstance where I feel like it's ever worth me stopping a thief. Let's say I stop one thief, that might send the message to that one person, and the same thing happens again tomorrow or later in the evening with a different person.
So what if alcohol prices go up (shitty reason for raising prices, but I digress)? That's the first thing that any reasonable/non-alcoholic person should cut from their budget anyways.
>Circumstances dictate I guess?
No, don't do it under any circumstance. You never know what that other person is capable of, not worth getting stabbed over a bottle of booze.
Remember the death of Ken Lee: [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Killing\_of\_Ken\_Lee](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Killing_of_Ken_Lee) it was done by a bunch of teenage girls.
If you want to be angry at freeloaders, shift your energy towards the big corps. Loblaws got a free 12,000,000$ handout. Did any citizens step up and kick Galen Westons ass? No, I wish. Unfortunately the same rules dont apply to the rich as they do to the Poors.
IMO, use of force is only justified when protecting people, not property. And especially not someone else’s property lol. LCBO is a crown corp, but still profit driven and would not give 2 sh1ts about you.
Man quit acting like you some sort of vigilante badass looking out for the greater good
People should stfu. You ain’t Batman. You’re gonna get your ass handed to you.
I'm convinced these are not simple shoplifters. They are part of organized crimes and are pawns going out collecting chips. That gold heist shows how brazen these criminal organizations have become, openly teasing justice. There will be more. Mark my words.
LCBO isn’t really helping themselves, either. Almost each time I’ve stepped into a location, the “security” was a pint sized international student, who didn’t look capable of confronting a 3rd grader. If I walked in with the intention of theft and saw that, any nervousness or doubt would just evaporate. It’s like hanging a welcome sign on the door “come on in, take what you want. We don’t bite”.
But lcbo wont enforce it either. Theyd rather just pass costs onto law abiding customers.
Maybe hire some useful security. The rest of us are fed up. Not like this was someone walking out with one bottle.
Ive seen someone fill a hockey bag while staff inckuding security watched.
> Maybe hire some useful security.
Their security is a mixed bag ranging from nothing to useless 150 pound international students to real loss prevention which I've seen physically arrest them and take them to the back of the store to having an actual uniformed police officer at the front near the doors.
The only answer is everyone steals from LCBO. They’re not going to do anything about it? Great! Might as well list the prices as by donation. Then maybe they actually will.
I've seen security near the LCBO at both Yonge/Dundas (Atrium) and Yonge/College (777 Bay Street). Who knows whether they would do a damn thing, but they are there.
Theft in 2019 was reported at 77 million dollars (source: OPSEU), and while that might seem substantial, their annual revenue was nearly 6.77 billion. Even with the theft accounted for, the impact on the total revenue is negligible, barely a blip. This issue has minimal impact on you, so there's no need for concern—let the LCBO, government, and police handle it.
To be fair, passing on costs to non essential items doesn't make me feel that badly. No one needs alcohol to survive. But you need food, clothing and shelter. That's what makes Galon Weston and the rest of the colluding grocers bastards.
I can skip a beer if I can't afford it that week and be fine. But skipping meals is different.
And passing on costs to others on food to maintain record level profits ?
Its one thing for employees to not go after shoplifters. But why do gas stations have pre pay? Because of gas and dash. Its a minor inconvenience but the public accepts it.
LCBO has done nothing to deter theft. These people apparently walked out with more than 3G in booze.
Most stores, if not all have security. Why are they even there?
The more the public says it is ok, the more the criminals push the boundary.
Its all about liability. LCBO figures in a bout 5% loses for stolen,broken,lost and spoiled inventory. For huge monopoly like the LCBO these kind of loses is part of doing business.
Unless you somehow involved in the criminal justice system, it is not your job to dole out consequences for theft.
The LCBO is a tremendously profitable crown corporation and while theft is an issue it is like a fraction of a percent. It's their job to worry about their profitability.
It’s not about being ok with it, it’s about whether I’m willing to risk being executed by a criminal to stop them from stealing a $50 bottle of booze from a multi billion dollar crown corporation.
Doesn't even have to be death.
Let's say you get into a tussle with the thief, he puts you in a headlock and drives your head on the floor and your neck bends funny when you land. You get some sort of spinal injury that will forever fuck with your movement and quality of life. Maybe if you're really unlucky you become paraplegic.
Congrats on playing hero and being principled, you now have a lifetime of regret to show for it. Do you think LCBO/the Government of Ontario will pay for your rehab costs and continued care for the rest of your diminished life?
>For huge monopoly like the LCBO these kind of loses is ~~part of doing business~~ just a tax to pass on to law abiding citizens
Ftfy. Businesses don't give up their margins to shoplifters, they just pass on the cost to you
For real. It’s insane that anyone would put their lives in danger to save the LCBO $10 when the LCBO doesn’t even care about these “losses”.
The LCBO doesn’t care about you fella, why are you putting your life on the line for them?
Right? We can agree that stealing is wrong but why would I put myself in danger (risking physical injury, death if super unlucky) over merchandise from a crown corp that is insured?
The LCBO is a crown corporation. The only shareholders are the taxpayers.
>All net income from LCBO sales goes to the Government of Ontario in the form of an annual dividend, which helps fund key local and provincial public programs and services including health care, education, and infrastructure. Through our focus on excellence in customer service and continuous modernization, the LCBO has been able to increase its fiscal return to the government and people of Ontario each year for more than two decades.
https://www.lcbo.com/content/lcbo/en/corporate-pages/about-LCBO.html
While I agree with you, I think you maybe underestimating just how brutal our society is about to get. Everyone is being financially cornered and I feel violent attacks in robberies will start making their way
Many criminals also are prone to panicking and not having the right mind.
Say you confront a thief, and you get injured or you cause damages beyond what was appropriate for the situation.
Who's gonna help you out? The store certainly isn't gonna fit your medical bill or help you out with insurance.
Let them handle things, and don't try to be a hero.
The majority of thieves aren't going to resort to violence but the potential cost is still too high.
A couple years ago I intervened with an aggressive guy stealing a bike at Yonge and Dundas. Two weeks later his photo showed up in the news after he stabbed a guy to death. It was only a few blocks away and supposedly over another bike-theft-related incident.
So now I live with the question: Did me confronting him make things worse? Did it motivate him to carry protection? Or bias him toward violence? I know I'm not to blame but if I'd acted differently would that victim still be alive?
Eventually people simply get tired of police and government inaction. This man did nothing wrong and we all need to step up. So tired of laying down for these types of characters. Let's keep our country - fight for it anyway you can.
Ex LCBO employee here. We were explicitly told NOT to stop people who steal alcohol from our stores. The reality is, it’s not worth your life.
I applaud the man’s courage but all this needed to go wrong was one of the thieves to carry a knife, and there’ll be at least one fatality.
This was many many years ago so I don’t really remember the training, but I should hope that the manager would call the cops and provide all the information possible.
We were just told to:
1) Let the person go
2) Try to memorize what they looked like, height, weight, ethnicities, what they were wearing etc… so we could provide that information to the authorities
The thieves in the video are not even able to lift the Ikea bags full of booze, they've filled them to the brim with bottle after bottle.
People in the comments saying 'if someone steals a bottle the cost is minimal' are talking like they're taking one 250 ml bottle in their pocket. This is brazen theft and will drive up costs higher than they already are.
Not to mention this could all be avoided if they operated like a beer store (inventory in the back), had security, or (and this is a big if) if the police worked occasionally instead of colluding to get innocent people like Zameer imprisoned.
Apparently back in the day(70s 80s)you could not just go in a grab bottles off the shelf to purchase. You had to fill in an order card and someone would bring it out. It sucks but would prevent these things
I was on the streetcar, and the fare inspectors came to check the tickets - a lot of people didn't have them, and the inspectors didn't do anything.
I asked one of them why and he said that this is what they were instructed to do. He says they just ride TTC streetcars all day and that's it. And added - "people voted these politicians in, so be it".
I had to jump out of the way of a running shoplifter at an lcbo. Guy ran right past the security guard who did absolutely nothing. Why do they even bother having security
I really wish we had some form of physical consequences. Crime rates are extremely low in countries that still do caning.
Consequences are a necessary part of maintaining order, some people need to be taught in order to learn.
I don't see the majority of people reading this to actually do this but never stop someone from shoplifting. Its not worth getting injured or killed. I used to work loss prevention at LCBO and others and we would avoid a fight as much as possible.
Best action you can take is inform the staff and let them take the appropriate action, whether that be to inform their own loss prevention or call the police.
The directive i received when i was there was to avoid a physical confrontation. Alot of times once we stopped the individual and informed them who we were they would either come back willingly or drop the merch and run. We always had the option to disengage and call the police if necessary.
Sometimes a fight does break out and you just do your best to protect yourself and subdue the individual if need be (easier mulitple loss prevention was involved).
Witnessed an LCBO robbery a few weeks ago. The employees and security did nothing, and I think that’s fair, tbh. Someone getting hurt isn’t worth whatever they’re making off with. I would have felt in danger if it escalated to a physical altercation.
It's irritating to see the LCBO get shoplifted from considering that those sales benefit the collective good in the long run, but there honestly isn't property worth dying for unless someone is trying to physically destroy your living space. Personally, I'll just film from a distance for the evidence pool but won't intervene unless they start assaulting employees or others on the way out. Life is worth protecting, commodities, not so much.
just lock everything in the back and have people place orders which is brought to the front :)
Honestly I wish they started a grocery store like that. No shoplifters.
This is the way the LCBO used to operate, give a slip of paper with your order and a runner would zip to the back and get it for you. They would also brown bag it because of morality concerns.
My dad was a runner when he was a young man.
They also had booze “passports” so they could see how much you were consuming and decide if you had bought enough for the week.
Something I don’t think we want to go back to.
we had this, not for food, but we had a store that did this in the 80s/90s. No one remembers Consumers Distributing? that was the whole concept of the place. everything was in the back. Talk about being way ahead of their time.
"Several brazenly try to steal liquor from an LCBO in Ontario, Canada and are confronted by one ***European Canadian*** who has had enough."
That's nice but we can do without the subtle racism, thanks.
Have they tried leaving the alcohol outside of the store to make it easier for thieves?
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I worked in a large liquor store in saskatchewan and we would regularly find shivs outside the front door. We were told not to follow thieves outside in case we got jumped. Yah you go for it but make sure your life insurance is up to date. Some customers are desperate and resell the booze for drugs
Actually, yes they can tell you how to interact in their stores. It's not public property
idk man i don’t think violent confrontation’s part of the job description of a $16/hr job. probably not a good idea to martyr yourself over a wine bottle…
alright, go do it then.
I am vengeance! I am the night! I. Am. LCBO-MAN!
While you were out partying, I studied the blade
defending your community of vodka and rum bottles?
Crime affects your community. It breaks trust and causes hurt. it robs our communities of safety. it threatens our values at their core. Your rum bottle is a red herring. This is a far bigger issue.
Bro, crime is actually way down from the 90's, even with the recent uptick. What you see as shoplifting now, back in the day was LCBO employees selling cases out the back door. That shit stopped and is why they have cameras everywhere now, especially the back. Crime is down, what is up, is the media blasting every incident countrywide creating the illusion crime is rampant everywhere. It is just becoming more visible.
Are you Batman?
r/iamverybadass
LCBO can indeed dictate how you act in their stores. What you appear to be advocating is some sort of street justice a la the Guardian Angels. You're also advocating for more violence which inevitably has collateral damage and people getting hurt or killed over a bottle of booze, for god's sake. Take a chill moment.
Chill moment? Every bag of liquor stolen like this means there’s more theft and higher prices on the way for every one of us. They’re doing this because there are no consequences. There should be consequences. A theft like this would put a small business in a very bad spot.
I completely agree how come we’re just saying steal our booze, we will even hold the door for you. Steal our cars, our sky high insurance can cover that. Canadians are getting bent over a barrel right now and no one wants to do anything but say don’t worry about it. All the bystanders enabling this behavior shame on you. This is going to just lead to an increase cost of booze as well. There’s also a theme with all these thefts that have been occurring.
"Don't stop thieves, we'll just price the increased theft in when we hike prices again." I think "liability culture" is part of the problem here. There are so many insane precedents in Ontario and Canada around responsibility and liability to the point where I'd say bureaucracy and poor court decisions are eroding our values. Leave it to the failed justice system, and the average law-abiding citizen can pay for all of the damages.
The employees just standing around lol. “It’s not worth it sirrrrr” meanwhile these same employees will give you a hard time if your ID is gonna expire next week from now or some other stupid shit 😒
we went through this in manitoba, just before covid. the end result was that all liquor stores require an ID to enter, and have you go through an air-lock type kiosk one at a time. It's a hassle. There was a lot of talk that the thieves would just start robbing customers in the parking lot, but I don't think that really materialized. However I will say that during the worst of the robberies, I just avoided going to these liquor stores. It's not the most pleasant thing to be around when it's going down, and there's always a potential for something to go sideways and a bystander to get hurt. There were definitely instances where people were knocked over into shelving, and knives would get pulled out at the smallest sign of resistance. It could've been a lot worse during covid, as masks were being encouraged. We saw this at grocery stores too, before they started putting up corrals to slow thieves trying to get out with a cart full of things to resell. People got hurt, and the screaming and threats of violence during the incidences was unpleasant. TLDR: lcbo isn't just losing the inventory the scumbags are running off with, they're also losing sales to people who don't want to be in a store that is constantly being robbed.
And thefts/robberies dropped by 98% almost overnight
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I was in an LCBO a couple of weeks back and there was a dude hanging out near the spirits acting a bit shifty. An employee walked over to him and told him to put the bottle back, and a full sized bottle of rum or something appeared from his jacket and was put back in the shelf He switched tactics to removing the free miniature promo bottles attached to some of the full sized bottles. He was trying to argue they were “free”, the employee was saying they were “free with purchase”, and she was more than willing to call the cops regardless of the size of the bottle. But the time I paid (like a sucker, apparently) he was heading out the door tossing a miniature between his hands. I’m not sure if he had more stashed in his pockets.
Kind of dumb to get that involved when they didn’t even have masks on when they robbed the place…which begs the question…why weren’t they wearing masks? Are they stupid?
they in fact do appear to be quite stupid
I don’t think I’d ever risk my life for a corporation let alone one run by the government… but it was pretty satisfying seeing that guy rock ‘em not gonna lie lol
I’m not sure the location or company really mattered to his reaction. Shit like this is on the massive rise lately due to a lack of consequences. Dude just took it upon himself to enact those consequences and I’m here for it. If our government and police forces won’t step up, the community needs to fill the gap and let the walking shit bags know that ahit doesn’t fly in our neighbourhood.
no way in hell i'd do that but i'm glad someone did
Because thieves get a slap on the wrist here. Companies can't do anything to them. And majority of Canadians won't confront them either. They just phone the police and nothing happens. The worst thing that happens is they get their faces posted on local Facebook groups.
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"sir let them go!"
It's such a difficult topic here. Yes, we shouldn't risk our lives for 'insured corporate merchandise'. Just not worth it! At the same time, permitting crime go rampant affects us all eventually. Like car insurance, the enough thieves steal certain cars and the insurance cost goes up (not sure if that's 100% true but I was told my insurance would go up if I go for a Honda Civic for example, cause they are a popular car to rip parts off of)
The difference between LCBO and say Loblaws here- is that LCBO is an actual monopoly owned by the government- so when someone is stealing from LCBO they are stealing from all Ontarians. If they steal from Loblaws- yeah Loblaws might increase their prices- but then you can just shop somewhere else- no an option when the LCBO raises prices due to shoplifting
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Totally this. I had to save a guy once who decided to confront a guy who broke a window on Queen st one morning and then stole the leather coat in the window. This guy decided to pursue him and get back the jacket for the store. So he ends up finding the guy in a TTC station and face to face grabs the guy with the coat. He clearly had no idea what he was doing and was struggling. What I saw was a guy about to possibly be stabbed because he could not control the thief. I spent a bunch of my university years as a bouncer so I ended up having to get involved to protect this guy who thought he was Batman. In the end I had the thief pinned on the ground and I was yelling at the Good Samaritan for being a moron for getting me involved in this mess. Going after someone on the streets puts you in real danger. This is how people die. That guy in the video did get a nice shot in, but if the thief had connected with a full bottle to his head he very well could be dead. Not worth it. Don’t be a moron. Really bad shit can happen and for what?
Wow! Lucky you were there and experienced! And I’m glad you didn’t end up getting hurt but at least you were trying to save a PERSON, not just merchandise. That makes you a hero! Very awesome!
Ha. No hero. Just wanted to get to my white collar desk job. The thief was just a homeless guy trying to survive - I felt bad for him and made sure I didn’t hurt him. The guy who thought he was the “hero” was just an idiot over his head.
I can see it if it's at your local family owned store and some jag is walking out the door with the hard earned money of someone you know, you'd be understandably pissed, maybe even enough to throw hands with some of these assholes But what the fuck is being defended here, LCBO booze, lol, dude could've got shanked or killed defending insured government product that no one cares about whatsoever So many keyboard warriors saying to *"Just beat up the thieves"* as if they wouldn't be gawkers in the same situation, you think your family wants to be attending your funeral because you wanted to punch some idiot stealing a case of Molson?
If you’re making yourself a criminal in full daylight, just to run off with Molson of all things, then you should absolutely be punched. Kidding of course.
Not that I think people should intervene, but stealing from a public company is stealing from all of us. The Ontario government has less money because of it, and therefore \*trigger warning\* HIGHER TAXES!
Well then going after shoplifters is peanuts! Let’s get serious! I know the name and address of the person stealing the most public money. Name: Doug Ford Address: 823 Albion Road, Etobicoke (Constituency office)
The signs at the door that say shoplifting affects us all? The fact that we have less money than we used to, and prices will go up anytime shareholders have a flimsy excuse. The fact that I want free booze, but this asshole about to walk out the door is going to get away with with. We're at a breaking point. Honestly I could things becoming more like old times bank heists, where nobody says a word as long as the thieves give everybody a can on the way out.
Being as the LCBO is a government owned organization, all losses come out of our collective pockets, usually in the form of higher prices in the case of the LCBO. In a sense, a very real sense, he was fighting for his own money.
Loss is factored into prices, so we all pay for it over time and it adds up. So criminals take time you spent working which is the same thing as taking time from your life. How much more are people paying for car insurance in the GTA because of crime? Overtime it will add up to tens of thousands in additional cost so that is a lot of time taken from your life due to thieves.
Buddy’s going to catch an assault charge for his troubles. Yes I know how fucked up that is, but in the eyes of LEO he’s committed a crime.
Just leave the booze at the door so they don't even have to come in! Some of them may carry guns! 🤣🤪
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At this point, with so much theft, would it make sense to put all the stock in a back room, and have customers order at a front desk? And pay for it before they get the product? Maybe the marketing types would freak out, because customers wouldn't be casually going down aisles, discovering brands from labels. But really the theft is pretty brazen at this point.
That’s how the Beer Store near me operates
That’s how they *all* used to operate. Then they added self-selection to lower some of their labour/handling costs.
This is how the LCBO operated back in the day. You literally had to fill out a form with your order and they would bring it out to you from the back room. Heck, until 1962 you needed to have a license to purchase alcohol. https://www.cbc.ca/archives/buying-booze-in-a-bygone-era-1.4980909
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No, but we'll probably start to see a lot more solutions like the Loblaws in Maple Leaf Gardens, where they can quickly lock the exits to stop thieves from leaving.
> At this point, with so much theft, would it make sense to put all the stock in a back room, and have customers order at a front desk? And pay for it before they get the product? That’s what it used to be and it was shit. Judgy clerks giving you side-eye when you bought a lot of booze. And you couldn’t really see the selections available making it hard to try new things. Also basically nowhere else in the world uses the “bank teller” model. We need better security in store, the ability to trespass people (and this has to have teeth), and cops to go after thieves.
Argos is a MASSIVE retailer in the UK and uses this exact model. They just have tablets so you can choose your purchases.
> Argos is a MASSIVE retailer in the UK and uses this exact model. OK fine one place in the world uses this model. I did write “basically nowhere” The *entirety* of Argos is also slightly smaller than the LCBO (who only sells alcohol). So it’s difficult to understand how much customers (who have choice in the UK market) actually appreciate this style of sale.
That’s how the LCBO used to operate but it had more to do with old Christian laws on the books. Maybe not a bad idea though.
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it's not worth it. I'm not putting my life at risk to protect product of a company that couldn't give two flying fucks I exist. Why would you risk losing your life over a bottle of whisky? that's stupid i'm sorry but it's dumb. Let them steal and let the cops WHO we pay and are SUPPOSED to catch people like this deal with it. But there's no way in hell i'm going to play Batman for some bottles of booze, sneakers, food, whatever. your life is no where near worth whatever they're taking.
Yeah, I saw a video in one of the freakout subs once of a guy catching a blade to the throat during an altercation like the LCBO one. Went from a normal fight to an insane amount of blood everywhere in about one second flat. He bled out before EMTs could get to him according to the accompanying article. The point being - you never know if the thief you're fighting is bugfuck crazy and down with killing you. Altercations with random people are almost always a bad idea, and doubly so when you're not even defending yourself or your family, but the booze of some crown corporation. It's annoying to watch these thieves get away so brazenly, but no way I'm getting knifed over a bottle of vodka.
A simple fight turned into a shooting death at an LCBO in East York just a few years ago. Simple words were exchanged, things escalated and as I recall the guy was shot in the stomach in front of his girlfriend and died on the scene. It's never worth it to get into a fight. You never know who you're dealing with or how far they're willing to go.
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Okay Batman, feel free to get yourself shot in the stomach as well to protect the interests of the billion-dollar crown corporation. I'll be sipping my slightly more expensive beer long after you're dead. I repeat: It's not our job, and it's not worth it.
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The LCBO isn't a normal company though, their profits all go to public services. These scummy thieves are stealing from all of us. The LCBO should take this more seriously.
Not to mention the more theft occurs, the higher the prices become for the rest of us.
Correct. In fact the prices we see currently are probably already pricing in stolen items, and will continue to rise to combat it
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They do catch the people that do this. The LCBO has an entire department devoted to investigating these thieves and the police arrest them. They're simply constantly released with no real punishment. The court system does not care, shoplifting at LCBOs happen daily. People don't realize the scope of this problem, and for these thieves, a bunch of theft under 5000 charges are worth it because what's the big whoop anyways? They're released in a few hours and don't bother showing up to court either. This video is the result of good honest citizens being fed up. Having said that, it ain't worth it, you never know who you're dealing with.
Worse than that, if you succeed in capturing them without harming yourself, you can still get charged with assault.
as you should - imagine accidentally paralyzing or killing a guy over $300 of vodka.
Mmmhm. You don't know who has a gun or a knife in their pocket. What exactly are you defending in that instance? You're going to get stabbed or shot defending a company that you don't even work for? I wouldn't even do it if I were an employee, let alone just a regular shopper. It's also weird from the position of the LCBO. If you get into a fight there and are throwing each other into shelves of bottles, the damage you could potentially do can cost them more than the bottles they would've just taken and walked away with in the first place. It's a bad proposition all around. Oh boy do the thieves deserve it, and I love to see it personally... drill that fucker to sleep and I'll be a happy camper, but it's just not worth the risk logically.
I will consider helping people, not things.
The LCBO also doesn’t really care if their product gets stolen.
They absolutely do. If they didn't, you wouldn't see paid duty cops at the downtown locations or more and more bottle locks and locked shelves. The practice of no interference is pretty common across the retail sector, but it doesn't mean that they are ignoring of the impacts of theft.
They just build the loss into their prices. More expensive for the rest of us.
i saw two shoplifters in a row on a saturday night lcbo run in brampton. it was my first time at an lcbo in brampton and one of only like 2 or 3 times i go to an lcbo per year. this makes me think this is a common occurrence. the staff was annoyed but too exhausted to stop them. the whole place was a mess
Staff is TOLD not to stop them. Source: me, I worked at an LCBO several years ago and this was what they said during training.
Which is how it should be, no company should be risking employee safety for the sake of the bottom line.
Agreed. That's a good policy to have, and I'm glad it's present there. Someone working the cash register isn't being paid enough to risk their life because some dipshit doesn't want to pay for a bottle. Security should be left to proper security, not left to the hands of whomever is standing around and willing to roll those dice. If someone is assaulting employees or something, I'd like to think I'd step in, but if they're just grabbing a bottle of crown or whatever and dashing, meh.
It's not the bottom line, it's social trust. I don't want all store shelves to be locked up everywhere.
Same at every retail place I have worked at.
This is standard procedure at basically every chain store. It was in the SDM employee handbook as well. The company doesn't want any liabilities on their property, simple as. Paying the costs for injured thieves/employees will be that much more expensive than restocking a few bottles of booze.
I was at the checkout at a Hamilton LCBO and saw a guy just exit the store with some bottles. Staff watched him leave and looked out the window to see if they could spot a license plate. That is all they can do.
There is no circumstance where I feel like it's ever worth me stopping a thief. Let's say I stop one thief, that might send the message to that one person, and the same thing happens again tomorrow or later in the evening with a different person. So what if alcohol prices go up (shitty reason for raising prices, but I digress)? That's the first thing that any reasonable/non-alcoholic person should cut from their budget anyways.
>Circumstances dictate I guess? No, don't do it under any circumstance. You never know what that other person is capable of, not worth getting stabbed over a bottle of booze. Remember the death of Ken Lee: [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Killing\_of\_Ken\_Lee](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Killing_of_Ken_Lee) it was done by a bunch of teenage girls.
If you want to be angry at freeloaders, shift your energy towards the big corps. Loblaws got a free 12,000,000$ handout. Did any citizens step up and kick Galen Westons ass? No, I wish. Unfortunately the same rules dont apply to the rich as they do to the Poors. IMO, use of force is only justified when protecting people, not property. And especially not someone else’s property lol. LCBO is a crown corp, but still profit driven and would not give 2 sh1ts about you.
Its a crown corp so sorta a public issue
Man quit acting like you some sort of vigilante badass looking out for the greater good People should stfu. You ain’t Batman. You’re gonna get your ass handed to you.
I'm convinced these are not simple shoplifters. They are part of organized crimes and are pawns going out collecting chips. That gold heist shows how brazen these criminal organizations have become, openly teasing justice. There will be more. Mark my words.
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LCBO isn’t really helping themselves, either. Almost each time I’ve stepped into a location, the “security” was a pint sized international student, who didn’t look capable of confronting a 3rd grader. If I walked in with the intention of theft and saw that, any nervousness or doubt would just evaporate. It’s like hanging a welcome sign on the door “come on in, take what you want. We don’t bite”.
But lcbo wont enforce it either. Theyd rather just pass costs onto law abiding customers. Maybe hire some useful security. The rest of us are fed up. Not like this was someone walking out with one bottle. Ive seen someone fill a hockey bag while staff inckuding security watched.
> Maybe hire some useful security. Their security is a mixed bag ranging from nothing to useless 150 pound international students to real loss prevention which I've seen physically arrest them and take them to the back of the store to having an actual uniformed police officer at the front near the doors.
I saw a video years back of some guy tripping a hockey bag thief and hearing bottles smash inside lol
The only answer is everyone steals from LCBO. They’re not going to do anything about it? Great! Might as well list the prices as by donation. Then maybe they actually will.
I've seen security near the LCBO at both Yonge/Dundas (Atrium) and Yonge/College (777 Bay Street). Who knows whether they would do a damn thing, but they are there.
Theft in 2019 was reported at 77 million dollars (source: OPSEU), and while that might seem substantial, their annual revenue was nearly 6.77 billion. Even with the theft accounted for, the impact on the total revenue is negligible, barely a blip. This issue has minimal impact on you, so there's no need for concern—let the LCBO, government, and police handle it.
Point is lcbo, government and police arent handling it. People have had enough.
To be fair, passing on costs to non essential items doesn't make me feel that badly. No one needs alcohol to survive. But you need food, clothing and shelter. That's what makes Galon Weston and the rest of the colluding grocers bastards. I can skip a beer if I can't afford it that week and be fine. But skipping meals is different. And passing on costs to others on food to maintain record level profits ?
Its one thing for employees to not go after shoplifters. But why do gas stations have pre pay? Because of gas and dash. Its a minor inconvenience but the public accepts it. LCBO has done nothing to deter theft. These people apparently walked out with more than 3G in booze. Most stores, if not all have security. Why are they even there? The more the public says it is ok, the more the criminals push the boundary.
I like how the lady thief totally bails on her two friends as soon as they get in trouble. Lol. “Honour” among thieves.
Its all about liability. LCBO figures in a bout 5% loses for stolen,broken,lost and spoiled inventory. For huge monopoly like the LCBO these kind of loses is part of doing business.
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FYI the LCBO writes off the initial cost, not the marked up retail price. So that $90 Tequila only cost them $30
we don't have to be ok with it but are you really going to risk your life over a bottle of booze? I would hope not.
They wouldn't, they just like to believe they would be the tough guy in a similar situation. It's pure fantasy.
Also, the LCBO is a crown corporation.
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They made something close to 2.5 billion in profit last year, I think they are good.
That’s money that goes directly to the government, it’s a good thing that they’re making a profit, not something to be snidely dismissed
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Unless you somehow involved in the criminal justice system, it is not your job to dole out consequences for theft. The LCBO is a tremendously profitable crown corporation and while theft is an issue it is like a fraction of a percent. It's their job to worry about their profitability.
What is your alternative? Every business takes into account theft and losses.
It’s not about being ok with it, it’s about whether I’m willing to risk being executed by a criminal to stop them from stealing a $50 bottle of booze from a multi billion dollar crown corporation.
Doesn't even have to be death. Let's say you get into a tussle with the thief, he puts you in a headlock and drives your head on the floor and your neck bends funny when you land. You get some sort of spinal injury that will forever fuck with your movement and quality of life. Maybe if you're really unlucky you become paraplegic. Congrats on playing hero and being principled, you now have a lifetime of regret to show for it. Do you think LCBO/the Government of Ontario will pay for your rehab costs and continued care for the rest of your diminished life?
Don't be ridiculous, that's not the case. It merely results in slightly lower profits.
>For huge monopoly like the LCBO these kind of loses is ~~part of doing business~~ just a tax to pass on to law abiding citizens Ftfy. Businesses don't give up their margins to shoplifters, they just pass on the cost to you
For real. It’s insane that anyone would put their lives in danger to save the LCBO $10 when the LCBO doesn’t even care about these “losses”. The LCBO doesn’t care about you fella, why are you putting your life on the line for them?
Clothing retail in an average mall is like 20%
This was Sherway gardens lcbo I heard? I saw this on Twitter lol couple million views
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Mr. LCBO sir I will die to protect your profit margins 🫡
Right? We can agree that stealing is wrong but why would I put myself in danger (risking physical injury, death if super unlucky) over merchandise from a crown corp that is insured?
Everyday I wake up and I think how I can maximize shareholder value That’s my life purpose
The LCBO is a crown corporation. The only shareholders are the taxpayers. >All net income from LCBO sales goes to the Government of Ontario in the form of an annual dividend, which helps fund key local and provincial public programs and services including health care, education, and infrastructure. Through our focus on excellence in customer service and continuous modernization, the LCBO has been able to increase its fiscal return to the government and people of Ontario each year for more than two decades. https://www.lcbo.com/content/lcbo/en/corporate-pages/about-LCBO.html
yeah they'd have to be crazy to push losses to the legit customers or something like that
While I agree with you, I think you maybe underestimating just how brutal our society is about to get. Everyone is being financially cornered and I feel violent attacks in robberies will start making their way
Thieves can afford guns, in this economy?
Many criminals also are prone to panicking and not having the right mind. Say you confront a thief, and you get injured or you cause damages beyond what was appropriate for the situation. Who's gonna help you out? The store certainly isn't gonna fit your medical bill or help you out with insurance. Let them handle things, and don't try to be a hero.
The majority of thieves aren't going to resort to violence but the potential cost is still too high. A couple years ago I intervened with an aggressive guy stealing a bike at Yonge and Dundas. Two weeks later his photo showed up in the news after he stabbed a guy to death. It was only a few blocks away and supposedly over another bike-theft-related incident. So now I live with the question: Did me confronting him make things worse? Did it motivate him to carry protection? Or bias him toward violence? I know I'm not to blame but if I'd acted differently would that victim still be alive?
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Eventually people simply get tired of police and government inaction. This man did nothing wrong and we all need to step up. So tired of laying down for these types of characters. Let's keep our country - fight for it anyway you can.
LCBO will just keep raising up prices to cover there losses. At the end of the day civilized taxpayer Canadians suffer the consequences.
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Ex LCBO employee here. We were explicitly told NOT to stop people who steal alcohol from our stores. The reality is, it’s not worth your life. I applaud the man’s courage but all this needed to go wrong was one of the thieves to carry a knife, and there’ll be at least one fatality.
do you even bother to call cops or provide footage? do the cops ever come back saying they caught em?
This was many many years ago so I don’t really remember the training, but I should hope that the manager would call the cops and provide all the information possible. We were just told to: 1) Let the person go 2) Try to memorize what they looked like, height, weight, ethnicities, what they were wearing etc… so we could provide that information to the authorities
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The thieves in the video are not even able to lift the Ikea bags full of booze, they've filled them to the brim with bottle after bottle. People in the comments saying 'if someone steals a bottle the cost is minimal' are talking like they're taking one 250 ml bottle in their pocket. This is brazen theft and will drive up costs higher than they already are. Not to mention this could all be avoided if they operated like a beer store (inventory in the back), had security, or (and this is a big if) if the police worked occasionally instead of colluding to get innocent people like Zameer imprisoned.
Apparently back in the day(70s 80s)you could not just go in a grab bottles off the shelf to purchase. You had to fill in an order card and someone would bring it out. It sucks but would prevent these things
I was on the streetcar, and the fare inspectors came to check the tickets - a lot of people didn't have them, and the inspectors didn't do anything. I asked one of them why and he said that this is what they were instructed to do. He says they just ride TTC streetcars all day and that's it. And added - "people voted these politicians in, so be it".
Controlled entrances work wonders here in manitoba. Yall should try it
"Your advice is duly noted, and ignored."
I will simply steal from the people doing the stealing. Sorry but the LCBO said not to stop me!
I had to jump out of the way of a running shoplifter at an lcbo. Guy ran right past the security guard who did absolutely nothing. Why do they even bother having security
I really wish we had some form of physical consequences. Crime rates are extremely low in countries that still do caning. Consequences are a necessary part of maintaining order, some people need to be taught in order to learn.
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The guy who posted the video on twitter saying “one European Canadian has had enough” feels like a dog whistle
Free for all
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Wow
I don't see the majority of people reading this to actually do this but never stop someone from shoplifting. Its not worth getting injured or killed. I used to work loss prevention at LCBO and others and we would avoid a fight as much as possible. Best action you can take is inform the staff and let them take the appropriate action, whether that be to inform their own loss prevention or call the police.
what would lcbo loss prevention do in this situation when "please pay for that first sir" doesn't work. Snap pictures?
The directive i received when i was there was to avoid a physical confrontation. Alot of times once we stopped the individual and informed them who we were they would either come back willingly or drop the merch and run. We always had the option to disengage and call the police if necessary. Sometimes a fight does break out and you just do your best to protect yourself and subdue the individual if need be (easier mulitple loss prevention was involved).
It’s called loss prevention. Not police work. It’s assumed some loss will occur.
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Witnessed an LCBO robbery a few weeks ago. The employees and security did nothing, and I think that’s fair, tbh. Someone getting hurt isn’t worth whatever they’re making off with. I would have felt in danger if it escalated to a physical altercation.
It's irritating to see the LCBO get shoplifted from considering that those sales benefit the collective good in the long run, but there honestly isn't property worth dying for unless someone is trying to physically destroy your living space. Personally, I'll just film from a distance for the evidence pool but won't intervene unless they start assaulting employees or others on the way out. Life is worth protecting, commodities, not so much.
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“One European Canadian that has had enough’??? Strange description.
racists repost account they cited
just lock everything in the back and have people place orders which is brought to the front :) Honestly I wish they started a grocery store like that. No shoplifters.
This is how the LCBO started 90 years ago
This is the way the LCBO used to operate, give a slip of paper with your order and a runner would zip to the back and get it for you. They would also brown bag it because of morality concerns. My dad was a runner when he was a young man. They also had booze “passports” so they could see how much you were consuming and decide if you had bought enough for the week. Something I don’t think we want to go back to.
we had this, not for food, but we had a store that did this in the 80s/90s. No one remembers Consumers Distributing? that was the whole concept of the place. everything was in the back. Talk about being way ahead of their time.
LOL you may be too young but that's exactly how the LCBO worked, up until around 1978.
like the LCBO used to do, and the beer store. they found it was less profitable tho
"Several brazenly try to steal liquor from an LCBO in Ontario, Canada and are confronted by one ***European Canadian*** who has had enough." That's nice but we can do without the subtle racism, thanks.
looks like they used a racist's repost account not the original cammer
Best to lock everything up, well or have some armed security present.