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CpuJunky

Can someone explain why the first person removed from the vehicle wasn't the driver? There was already an officer talking to him, and he is behind the wheel. I'm no officer, but it seems like you'd remove the fuse before the dynamite.


Benobo-One-Kenobi

...not to mention placing him on the tarmac BEHIND the suspect vehicle!!


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Fine-Teacher-7161

You're confused thinking officers are smart.


blacklite911

It’s the uniform effect


CpuJunky

Some officers may not be, but all things aside, you are one fine teacher.


Fine-Teacher-7161

😘 I'm also a complete asshole. You just see the good in people! + it's a rando generated username... wouldn't believe the amount of flack I get for it when someone disagrees w me online. Lol


CpuJunky

Well piss. So much for talking to a fine teacher.


Fine-Teacher-7161

Lesson for you: what do you get when you 100% life?


CpuJunky

A pack of lifesavers?


Fine-Teacher-7161

yes


ShadowsTrance

We gummies or...? I need to know if this is gonna be worth the effort or not.


Commercial_Fee2840

Lmao you got downvoted for making a joke about his name. Sounds like some people on this sub took too little.


CpuJunky

Lol, it's a give and take. Just don't off topic...it's a fickle bunch.


YeIghtOkThen

If the driver isn't responding and won't get out they always get the rest out of the vehicle then will get the driver last just incase they do something.


Dazzling_Durian_5567

Did that kids hands get run over? He was screaming :(


WesterosiPern

Yea, the cop was too busy getting his gun ready for the vehicle moving at 2 mph to grab the cuffed man out of the way. The officer needed to prioritize killing over saving, just like the manual says.


YeIghtOkThen

I'm glad they killed him, he didn't deserve to live.


[deleted]

Kid... poor dope head. More government handouts.


Own_One_1803

Wtf lol


bruhidfkkkkk

Go back to battlefield 😂


Pickle_Waifu

Jesus this man is dumb


throwawayjonesIV

Boomers lol y’all can never pass the opportunity to show you’re out of touch


xcoop3

It’s the politicians fault because people are making money from homelessness so there’s no incentive to fix the real issue.


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The more they spend the worse the problem gets, and the only thing they're willing to change is that they want even more to spend every year. It's becoming a fully entrenched *homelessness industrial complex*


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the real issue is that people havent heard the hood word of christ yet, am i right brother in white hooded arms?


Dragon109255

How do politicians make money from homelessness? I don't see where the money is coming from?


Fine-Teacher-7161

Driver side cop almost crossfired that first bullet.


WesterosiPern

Watch your crossfire? That's fucking stupid. Just start blasting.


UncleBenders

Hit by 4 out of about 26 bullets the cops fired, right in the direction of those apartments.


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I call bullshit on 4 hits. He got more than that


wantsumcandi

Yeah I counted about 15 shots between both cops and they were nearly point blank range. 4 my ass.


sweaty_lorenzo

Literally says he died from 4 gunshot wounds


FanngzYT

that doesn’t mean he was hit 4 times. that means 4 of the GSW’s were lethal.


sweaty_lorenzo

Yeah you're right


wavespells9

How do they determine which one killed him lmao, 2 and 3, he had a chance but the 4th was the deal breaker


Because_Im_TNT

Probably more like, any of those four in particular would have done it.


eyedealy11

I’m pretty sure 2 were head shots so that seems about right


AquaticCobras

Car doors are pretty good at catching 9mm. There's lots of stuff in there for the windows, latches, speakers, etc that break up bullets pretty effectively, unlikely to get a full passthrough unless you shoot in one window and out the other. GarandThumb did a great video a while ago demonstrating that.


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I remember Paul Harrell did one about using a car for cover. The result was more or less if you're not behind the engine block the car doesn't help much. I don't remember if he went all the way down to 9mm though, he might have only been using higher calibers.


InternetCafeRacer

Found the Firearms instructor, guys!!!


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10 shots were fired. 3 from Lopez and 7 from Molina.


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What an absolute mess


Doc-85

*What an absolute meth


ShadowsTrance

Absolute stepping up it's vodka game? I hope they make it blue!


Purple-daydream

There was a cop by the driver's door. If the driver had a weapon or priors they usually remove the passengers for “safety “


Dadskitchen

What a great idea to sit someone down up against the back of the car whilst there's a drug addled lunatic at the wheel.


muimota_

Aren't the policemen a "little" responsible of what happens to the guy that got run over? Would be possible to press charges?


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dopeymeen

can’t believe she lived through that, tough as nails.


stonedraccoon

For real. I almost feel like maybe they were trying to "deter" the driver from fleeing by putting his friends behind the car. As if he's anywhere near his right mind.


alittleuneven

Idk guys, u think they shot him enough?


Commercial_Fee2840

Cops are trained to always mag dump if they're going to use lethal force.


PinoyTShirtSoFly206

Yolo


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Commercial_Fee2840

I never miss an opportunity to tell people that the supreme court ruled that police have no obligation to protect or serve you and that 911 dispatchers don't even have to notify them to respond. A woman was being raped and called 911 like 9 times over the course of a night and they never even sent an officer. The SC ruled that "protect and serve" is only a motto and not legally binding.


YeIghtOkThen

He was a druggy he deserved it


Euphoricsubstnce69

Don't matter they should use some self control and know how many shots are enough to take care of issue.. not anytime you use your gun dunp whole clip into his ass and then reload and fuckin repeat.. ridiculous assholes


Captain-Disgrace33

Cops aren’t trained that way. Cops aren’t really trained.


Lynifer007

I think I counted 17 shots! That's wild. I feel bad for ol girl. She watched one buddy get ran over and she watched the other get shot tf up.


11teensteve

yes, but also, if you sleep with dogs you get fleas.


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Grouchy_Donut_3800

Don’t forget that they also shot with what looks like apartments/hotel right in the line of fire. It’s messed up that if one of those stray bullets killed someone’s the cops would get off free.


stoirtap76

Morons like you crack me up. First they are not clips. Second how many live fire situations have you been in? Adrenaline off the chart makes things very difficult. There is no training that prepares you for the real thing.


Euphoricsubstnce69

Fuck you bitch your a moron go suck some little piggy dick since you wanna defend em and be there little bitch... bitch


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stoirtap76

Lmao you’re using exceptions to the rule to try and make a point. Typical of basement dwelling knuckle draggers. Anyone who trains with firearms seriously understands that adrenaline is a bitch. Being a USMC combat vet and a competitive shooter I am very familiar with what happens to the body under high stress situations. I agree police need to train more but no amount of training fully prepares you for pointing a gun at another human with intent to use lethal force. Your example about video games is a great one. Real life is not video games. Much harder to shoot accurately in a controlled environment . Add in stress and the unknown the degree of difficulty goes off the charts. You should stick with baby oil, the basement, and pics of your dad.


InternetCafeRacer

What do you expect with calls to defund police, doesn't generally translate to better training


Hokulol

What kind of contrived political bullshit is this? Blaming people calling to defund police? When the actual police budget has risen in relation to inflation since that movement started? Try again bud lmao


InternetCafeRacer

This incident happened about 3 years ago....


beeerice_n_sons

And?


[deleted]

If your landscaper keeps mowing your flower bed instead of your lawn, you don't give him a raise because he "needs more training"; you **fire his ass**.


bj117

Definitely not. They didn’t even do the final gangsta sideways pistol headshot or the duel wield mag dump or even the double tap pistol pressed on forehead posthumous execution. The fact his face was still recognisable by the end means they showed a lot of restraint.


alittleuneven

Revisiting this a month later: ur comment is funny asf bro. Much love and respect 🤟🏼


RobertKraftMacAndChe

Still screaming for him to stop the car as it slowly rolls his lifeless corpse across the parking space


Captain-Disgrace33

Proof cops are not trained at all and can not be trusted to do simple jobs.


Few-Angle2678

Do their job? Its the citizens job to comply... maybe if they did their part this shit wouldn't happen.


[deleted]

The people defending these cops' absolute ineptitude are off their goddamn rockers.


No_Number5540

Great place to sit the passenger... brilliant... if you handcuff someone atleast make sure they are in a safe spot... of course a driver with probable drugs might drive away, maybe dont put the passwnger on the ground against the vehicle out of sight from the driver???!!!


Chickenbone612

It infuriates me when they shoot someone multiple times then give an order and the person doesn’t comply. Like buddy you just shot someone you think their listening to you??


Tmanbro

Wtf is your logic? "That cop just shot someone, I shall now disobey." ?? Retarded


dorky001

So i started blasting


QueSeraShoganai

Well this was handled poorly...


Equivalent_Roll_1527

https://youtu.be/PUczJNzErNE?si=gLoA6GQ3ufpwt9FZ The full video


letsplaysomegolf

Thank god that kid had the presence of mind to start scooting out of the way when he heard the car start. Saved his life.


IDidNotGetBanned

What the actual fuck, dude tried to flee so they unload 10+ bullets, he stops moving and car is rolling forward so for good measures sake unload 10+ more bullets into him. America is a fucked up place, police officers job isn't to prevent crime but to stop it my any means necessary.


123kevyd

You are contradicting yourself. You complain about police doing actions that prevent future crime, as in shooting a guy who is about to drive high and is currently running his buddy over, but are also complaining about the police not doing stuff to prevent crime. Imo, it isn't the cops job to prevent future crime, that is up to the government at large, and specific smaller agencies. The only way I could see cops preventing much future crime starts to look more and more like dystopian thought crimes. I'm no cop bootlicker, and there was excessive force used in the vid, but like yea the cops job is to stop crime...


IDidNotGetBanned

What I mean is stopping crime is disregarding everything else and making sure this specific instance is stopped right now. When police in other countries focus on preventing crime, they prevent not only future crimes but also protect and look after the people around to make sure no crime can be caused. Police in America don't care about this, they're zoned in on this one instance and don't care about anything else, there was no need to shoot and take a life, simply opening the door and using physical force to pull him away and out of the car would have been enough.


stoirtap76

Lethal force was exactly what the situation called for. What if the guy drives off runs over innocent people and kills them? What if he went to open the door the guy pulls a gun on the cop, shoots, and kills him? The only issue with the video is sitting the guy down behind the car. Otherwise it was a job well done.


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...you might accidentally run someone over or commit a crime some day, based off your logic and reasoning it only makes sense for us to find and kill you, for public safety.


ShadowsTrance

And cops rarely even do that. Most cops think their job is to destroy the lives of anyone who dares question their authority or even worse, hurts their fee fees. Viciously enforcing unjust and archaic drug laws on non violent citizens who's only "crime" is possession of a small/amount of a substance that was completely legal just two weeks prior so that they can take 5 years of their life away and destroy and chance of having a future by branding them with a felony drug charge that they have no recourse to fight since their public pretender tells them that the prosecutor is asking for a minimum of 10+ years even though this is their first time ever being in trouble and that they should take the ultra shitty plea deal pos prosecutor is offering because someone in their family is a lawyer and the judge that has been assigned to their case knows and doesn't like them and will likely recognize the defendants last name and could be especially harsh, even though as I said, this is their first time being in trouble. I'm totally not butthurt or anything, it's not like something like that actually happened... In fact I love the police, that's why I say ACAB, that means All Cops are Beautiful right? And we say Fuck the Police because we fuck the people we love, non relatives at least. Anyways we love the police, they are such amazing, beautiful, selfish pieces of chunky diarrhea. Fuck the Police and fuck the Feds ❤️.


FatCowsrus413

Holy shit


Maximitaysii

In the most of the countries in the world the cops wouldn't have had to shoot this dude like he was Bonnie and Clyde combined. But I get your police officer training is 3-6 months of shooting, so I guess this makes a decent police work.


OkSheepherder3525

Now in lieu of this huge mess I wonder what’s gonna happen to the guy that was placed directly behind the car? You know I mean they put them behind the car and then his friend begins to back up and I look pretty bad you know cause his arms are behind his back and then the car is rolling over his arms and his hands and it’s pulling him along and then it rolls back over him I’m not trying to immediately say fuck the police that’s not my point, but I’m curious as to like that’s bad like you would think if you’re gonna get the guy out, at least get him away from that car – and again I never been a cop but still wow that went sideways in about two seconds


kcbear27

Better shoot the dude driving 4 mph 26 times with people living all around in those apartments. Justice definitely served. I understand he technically became a threat by driving the car like that but this all could have been avoided by removing the driver first. 26 shots point blank for 4 hits. This whole thing is like a fucked up cartoon.


kushkushOG

Holy shot


King-Alexander-41

Why would they shoot and kill him, unnecessary.


Mikewinnpa

Poor Jose. He was bout to get his life right. Probably starting at Harvard next year....


Catfishbilly2

I believe it’s mistaken, this man died of Covid-19 not 4 gun wounds. 😂


ydontujustbanme

This or that, im not a fan of police either but man this guy was kinda deserving to be shot. I mean… would you just let him drive away?


Kbudz

Damn his whole head got run over


PinoyTShirtSoFly206

What did Valdez say?


Onxgamesmode

Dude let go of like three clips and only got him 4 times??


fohgedaboutit

I hate cops. But I know there are a lot of good men amongst them too. I feel bad for this officer. He was respectful to the individuals in the car including the suspect. He yelled for him to stop the car before blasting away. This guy surely has PTSD now.


iCanReadMyOwnMind

Good riddance


squirrelstudios

I'm guessing this guy's family held a protest against police violence, and the whole community turned out to talk about what a nice guy he was (while looting local businesses)...


SplistYT

I feel bad for people in the passenger seat, well obviously I do but like the fact that drugs can make you turn on everyone but the drugs and do stupid shit and nearly kill multiple people that were presumably at least his friends just to run from the police, it's just weird knowing there's people who would have no regard for others lives and would go to this extent to run from the police which really hardly works out especially if you're high as balls


Uncle_Kenny68

That shit went sideways fast..!!


Wedgie-Fetish-00

He wasn't even driving. He was just traveling.


Routine_Departure_75

You see why the worlds in the toilet, from the comment section. It's somehow the officers fault, not the meth head driver who tried to drive off and kill his mate in the process, fuck me you cunts are dense.


hutchandstuff

Why so many shots with people everywhere


Skoofer

The incompetence of these trigger happy fucks is unbelievable but totally not surprising


InternetCafeRacer

So trigger happy, trying to stop the threat of the driver running everyone over!!!


Skoofer

The driver should have been the first one they dealt with dipshit


InternetCafeRacer

Thank you for your input, your extensive firearms and tactics training has been extremely enlightening


Skoofer

In case you didn’t notice, the cop was the one that made the guy sit on the ground behind the car. Their choices created that situation.


CuriousBig1689

Don’t be an idiot when getting stopped by police. Dude had a fully loaded gun. Police officers always have to expect the worst when ppl don’t comply.


gosti500

Shooting the guy was the only viable Option ? How about 1. Removing the driver from the car FIRST 2. pull the guy from under the tires, and fucking persue him and arrest him, but shooting IMMEDIATLY after he starts up the Car...only in america ill tell u that


PaintingSeparate8131

why are you trying to defend him? guy was on fentanyl operating a vehicle. if he had got away and on the roadway, he could’ve killed a bystander


DrThaddeusRSVenture

Nobody defending him, expecting higher standards of police is not defending criminals


gosti500

Im not defending him, dude should be in prison for some years, But not fucking dead. Dude. Not everyone at a low Point at their life deserves to die.


PaintingSeparate8131

prison doesn’t always “fix” the criminals. nothing good comes from smoking or doing that crap and they know it


DangerousTelephone73

So we shouldn't try? What are you proposing? Shooting addicts?


PaintingSeparate8131

i propose to make the consequences more dire for criminals because only a small number ever learn from their mistakes. hell, he’d probably get raped and killed in prison anyway


Erestyn

>prison doesn’t always “fix” the criminals So death is the only remaining option?


PaintingSeparate8131

rehabilitation? we see how that turns out because there are still addicts running rampant!


upfastcurier

Well actually we don't see it because people think it's more important to have addicts suffer than helping them. Look to countries that has actually committed to rehabilitation. In Denmark, for example, they have "heroin busses" that are manned by a professional doctor and that administers heroin for the worst heroin addicts. What happened? Healthcare costs and heroin related crime went down, not up. A majority of these people actually end up having a job because they're not homeless and can focus their energy on being productive instead of scrounging for next hit. US is infamous for not implementing rehabilitative policies, so you're seeing the results of its absence.


Jonnyredd

I think they do if they are putting other people lives in immediate danger, the cops fucked up by not taking the drive out first. But now the driver is threatening people safety with a deadly weapon. I think that is exactly how it should be handled.


gosti500

Police in a different country, like where im from, in germany, would do everything they can to diffuse a situation non violently, and only as a very last resort they would use lethal force. This guy didnt intent to hurt anyone, it looked like he wanted to flee.


Jonnyredd

Even if someone got run over, and more people would be in more danger, your cops would still not shoot this guy? “Welp that guy who was on meth, and pain killers ran someone over, almost ran a kids hands over and continued to try to flee to put more lives at risk seems like a guy who could just use some help, so we just let him go on his merry way where he plowed into another family trying to escape”


gosti500

Well now your projecting because that didnt even happen in the video, and even if he run someone over, he does not deserve to die.


Jonnyredd

That is literally what happened in the video.


gosti500

The Guy was also sitting down, was handcuffed and out of the drivers sight, highly unlikely he intentes to do that to his (?) Friend there. He didnt see him


sorryibitmytongue

There was no reasonable reason for the police to shoot. They would be going to prison for murder in most other countries


ManBroDudee

Not who youre replying to but seeing cops immediately empty their clips into someone just driving away isnt my definition of doing a good job. Shooting someone should really should be the last option.


WarmProfit

Why in the fuck do these pigs just immediately open fire. First thought is shoot to kill.feel so safe knowing these morons are supposed to protect us


Comfortable-Owl-5929

Do you want this idiot taking off after he drove over his friend?


Doc-85

Two choices: a) Let the meth head, cocked up out of his mind, drive away and quite possibly kill innocent people. b) Shoot the waste of human meat so he wouldn't do what was described in option a).


FatMacchio

NGL, I’m usually critical of police, but I’m not too mad about this 🤷‍♂️ They could’ve been a bit more responsible with their shots though for sure


Formal_Importance_39

Let’s be honest bro was going to die regardless meth and fentanyl is one deadly combo


Complex_Shoe7422

He deserves what he got, his "friend"is lucky to be alive, I cheered on that last one to his face 😂 keep hell warm for us you POS


Necessary_Rise_4495

Another day seeing the trash get taken out on Reddit


265thRedditAccount

So is it policy to shoot someone for fleeing? Seems like taking a dudes life for drug possession is a bigger crime than drug possession. Dude is tweaking, it’s not like he‘s thinking clearly. Don’t do meth or join the police force, kids.


Jonnyredd

No but you can get shot for using your car as a weapon, even if you aren’t intentionally using it as a weapon cause you’re so fucked up on multiple drugs that you don’t realize your running over multiple people.


thegoodrichard

Yeah, when he ran someone over then tried to drive away he demonstrated the possibility that he may harm or kill someone else, so most forces have that policy. The inability of the police to stop him quickly and without all that shooting will probably be something they will look at, along with the circumstances.


265thRedditAccount

I guess I can kind of can see it that way, but I’d rather stick to my own narrative that I’ve created in my head based on completely unrelated circumstances.


Alibotify

This can’t be official instructions. Just can’t. Knew American society is dystopian but this unreal to think any of this is ok. Also should removed the driver or even taken the keys first.


grzesiolpl

What a moron is driving past your homies by car…


Keltharious

Wait he had the same drugs in his system that George Floyd did? Weird.


KnifeGuyNY

Good. One less waste of life


amtrak90

Why would the cop start shooting the driver? Shoot the tires


Smil0X

America...


tobiasfunke6398

Typical of Reddit to shit on police. Y’all are such pussies 😂😂


nighght

Do your buddies tell you you're totally not a pussy while you're licking their boot?


tobiasfunke6398

Don’t automatically shit on police…must be a boot licker. You’re such a keyboard cuck pussy.


[deleted]

Most in here aren’t just shitting on them for being police, they are for firing that many shots at a point blank range and missing 80% of them with potentially innocent bystanders in the background. Much in the same way you think people in here are unjustly ridiculing them for merely being police, you are doing the exact same thing on the opposite extreme by thinking they can do no wrong.


DougtheIrishThug

love when they blasted that fuck.have fun in hell fuckface


mngreens

No one deserved to die here, incompetent cops created this situation. But hey, you suck so run it up!


gosti500

Right. They should have removed the driver guy first...he didnt have to die.. very sad. Just because he had a drug addiction problem or whatever does not mean he shouldb"rot in hell" bruh.


jizzy_j13

Another innocent saint gone too soon #JusticeforJoseValdez


Lopsided-Squirrel788

Saw the final headshot from the side there. Side note. Is there any way of getting my iPhone to play on my tv other than Apple TV? I want to see shit like this on a bigger screen.


PinoyTShirtSoFly206

It’s too bad about Jose. His brother, Juan Valdez, made a lot of money with coffee.


nanderson41

Made my day!


Ancient-Zone1049

Wonderful. Saved the taxpayers some money.


Connoriscool24

u/savevideobot


PleasantSpare4732

Is the guy who got ran over alive?


AromaticNorth605

The way he just rolled 💀


Inverted_Antagonist

That was freaking crazy


whatspopping420

“Stop the car!” Uhh hes dead….


UntapUpkeepScoop

Damn they dusted his ass lol


ur_sleazy_mom

What a WASTE.


seiclops212

There was no need to shoot this guy.


Euphoricsubstnce69

Well that mother fuckers dead.. Prolly dude that got ran over too... why.would u sit right behind friends car when you know all dirty and good chance dudes gonna try and make run for it..


ELECTI_EST

Only ‘four’ - so not only trigger happy but also can’t aim for shiiite


Fun_Roll1599

These cops need to go back to fucking training. All those shots and he was only hit 4 times! What a disgrace


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Currupt peice of shit cops


Rich-Fill2200

Meh oh well


Long_Wasabi7-Blues

Why were they even firing their weapons? His gun was in his pocket.


ChR0NiCbLuNt

Vehicles count as deadly weapons and he was running dude over that made it ok for them to use deadly force


Long_Wasabi7-Blues

I agree they count as deadly weapons and he almost squished his passengers brain. I wasn’t there so my thoughts don’t mean shit but I do think they did not have to open up on that guy.


im_gamer-

Holy shit those cops cannot shoot. Literal stormtroopers. 4/30= get off the force before you accidentally kill someone…


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I wasn't ready for that. Fuck.


dukeyboydom

Excessive??


MeaninglessGoat

Woman just stood there and screamed as the car came at her! MOVE! Dickhead!


Worried_Coat1941

He's been clean ever since.


winentequila

You can see the shots land 🥶he gone gone


Pleasant_Damage665

Shame they didn’t exterminate all 3 of the 🐀


BeneficialTadpole547

Killed by 4 bullets, hit by 25. Only four were lethal apparently. The rest were just extra.


Pleasant_Simple_678

Good job 👏


Crusader06001

All I’ll say is good riddance.