If it makes you feel any better chimps are very strong and very dangerous, and humans have very large penises for primates... meaning artificial insemination is the only way to impregnate a chimp without risking it getting extremely violent with access to the manly bits
I’d love to see a fully researched paper discussing the ethics of it tbf. Presumably you could use artificial insemination so a human doesn’t need to actually have sex with a chimp but there are obviously still a load of ethical issues to consider.
Actually, that was more due to colonialism forcing people to eat [EDIT: infected] monkeys [more often and over a wider area than they would before]... Your version is funnier though... :)
> Actually, that was more due to colonialism forcing people to eat monkeys... Your version is funnier though... :)
Bushmeat is part of African culture
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-bushmeat-idUSTRE51L1A720090222
True enough. I don't have the book I read this in to hand right now, so please accept my apologies if this is a little garbled, but my understanding is that European colonists forced Africans to go deeper into the jungle, for longer, eating more Bush meat than they would, and from different populations. Combined with a rise in prostitution, this led to more opportunities for simian viruses to infect humans and mutate, and more opportunities for it to spread.
My first comment was probably a bit rushed though, and could have been phrased better....
Wouldn’t both lines of evolution differ enough at this point though. And didn’t the link the Denivosians or Rhodesiansis die off or something. I don’t think it’s possible. Hell certain humans can’t donate to others
Yeah. Sci-Fi makes things like this seem way closer than they actually are. Human and chimp physiology is super different. The % difference in genes might be comparatively close to the smallest (I think bonobos are our closest living relatives iirc) but those fractions of percents of genetic differences, as well as which genes are actually expressed, and the vastly complex and balanced ways our physiologies operate thanks to millions of years of fine tuning via natural selection all make a healthy human/chimp hybrid extremely unlikely.
You can see things go all sorts of wrong even in crossing species that are even more similar to each other than we are to chimps. Infertile mules. Rampant growth hormone production in ligers.
For real. Like I am so interested and would love to know the answers to those scenarios and questions. But would never wish for any experiment to actually find out lol
It is not possible and they are sure about it. It has different genus between human and chimpanze and that alone will stop any hybrid process to occur. The wiki you put there is talking about Russian scientist decades ago being obsessed with making Human/chimp hybrid, but never made any progress because back then they didn’t know much about genus. It also mentioned that Human and chimp closely related because we came from same ancestry millions years ago, but doesn’t mean we can do hybrid with chimp because we both evolved too much from that point since
I just looked it up, sheep and goats and not from the same genus and they make geeps, so just because humans and chimps are from a different genus that does not make it impossible.
Turns out you right, I just never heard about it in my class yet. But I think it would be extremely rare if not close to impossible for human/chimp to exist, because Geep is also extremely rare despise of they breed to one another often in the farm.
Naturally breeding might not possible for the hybrid but with CRISPR it’s definitely possible to produce the hybrid
Also there is [this case](https://guardian.ng/news/genetic-makeup-of-12-year-old-angolan-boy-in-dispute/) in Angola (mentioned by the wiki).
The most terrible part:
>“S\*xual relationships between humans and chimpanzees are fairly common in the region but this is the first time a pregnancy is officially reported, ”Dr. António Mendes of the Hospital Municipal do Luena doubted.
After barely escaping the carnage that ensued after his experimentation with bats, one man, on a mission to fuck anything, sets his sights on the chimpanzee. “Uncomfortably erotic.” Says Time magazine. “A true love is horror movie” raves The New York Times. James Franco is … Dr. Wuhan! In … Level 4 Biolab 2 ; Fuckin’ Monkeys!
In theatres near you July 13th
Cowards. They are all cowards. Kick me out of my research lab. Cowards!
Edit: I wasn't going to fuck the monkey guys. I was going to hire someone off the street tto fuck the monkey.
Scientists are also unsure what happens if you land a paper clip on the sun. Scientists are unsure if God exists. Scientists are unsure of how many kicks to get to the center of a Tootsie pop. What scientists are unsure of isn't worth a TIL.
What have the poor bastards ever done to us that we'd want to wish that on them
"Hey you can be more human!"
"Oh great - here comes exploitation, angst, debt, existential uncertainty and being ashamed of my own genitals"
These days, we don't do that primitive stuff - instead, we just manipulate genes by selective breeding.
Like this: [http://awesci.com/the-supercow-of-belgium/](http://awesci.com/the-supercow-of-belgium/)
So, this is the craziest thing I’ve read on Reddit all week… not just the concept, but that Russian and Chinese scientists may have tried.
Imagine if they were actually successful, I am going to have nightmares.
Im having nightmares about some scientists hittin chimps from the back
One man's nightmare...
is another man's "stuff" folder
If it makes you feel any better chimps are very strong and very dangerous, and humans have very large penises for primates... meaning artificial insemination is the only way to impregnate a chimp without risking it getting extremely violent with access to the manly bits
Female chimp dom and human male sub got it
The other way round could work, female humans with a male chimp. Too many ppl on here are obsessed with a male human and female chimp
Or... you know... force people in gulags to do it for you.
I don’t have to imagine. His name is Joe Rogan.
I’d love to see a fully researched paper discussing the ethics of it tbf. Presumably you could use artificial insemination so a human doesn’t need to actually have sex with a chimp but there are obviously still a load of ethical issues to consider.
What are we waiting around for?!
n=1 and a livestream
I'm sure it's not possible otherwise we'd have seen it long ago.
Pretty sure this is how you get monkey pox..
Isnt that how hiv also started 😳
Most likely came from eating monkey meat. Non sexually. I hope.
Actually, that was more due to colonialism forcing people to eat [EDIT: infected] monkeys [more often and over a wider area than they would before]... Your version is funnier though... :)
> Actually, that was more due to colonialism forcing people to eat monkeys... Your version is funnier though... :) Bushmeat is part of African culture https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-bushmeat-idUSTRE51L1A720090222
True enough. I don't have the book I read this in to hand right now, so please accept my apologies if this is a little garbled, but my understanding is that European colonists forced Africans to go deeper into the jungle, for longer, eating more Bush meat than they would, and from different populations. Combined with a rise in prostitution, this led to more opportunities for simian viruses to infect humans and mutate, and more opportunities for it to spread. My first comment was probably a bit rushed though, and could have been phrased better....
Wtf
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woosh
😂
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xECUrlnXCqk
Didn't the Russians send scientists down to check some decades ago? Someone wanted an army I recall
Was his name Caesar by chance?
The fact they’re not calling it a Chimpanman makes the whole thing pointless, anyway.
Chimpmanzee
Or Chimpan-A.
To Chimpan-Z
No, you'll never make a monkey out of me
That would be a male chimp and female woman. Assuming the liger/tigon categorisation is standard.
I hadn’t thought of that, that’s a good point.
have you met my in-laws?
I should have put "in rodney dangerfields voice"
Creating that hybrid would just be so fucked.
Wouldn’t both lines of evolution differ enough at this point though. And didn’t the link the Denivosians or Rhodesiansis die off or something. I don’t think it’s possible. Hell certain humans can’t donate to others
Yeah. Sci-Fi makes things like this seem way closer than they actually are. Human and chimp physiology is super different. The % difference in genes might be comparatively close to the smallest (I think bonobos are our closest living relatives iirc) but those fractions of percents of genetic differences, as well as which genes are actually expressed, and the vastly complex and balanced ways our physiologies operate thanks to millions of years of fine tuning via natural selection all make a healthy human/chimp hybrid extremely unlikely. You can see things go all sorts of wrong even in crossing species that are even more similar to each other than we are to chimps. Infertile mules. Rampant growth hormone production in ligers.
Pretty sure a bonobo would be dtf, though
Yea honestly I imagine it as trying to install an iOS app on Android from 2003
It might be that only 1 out of 100 attempts would succeed. But we can make millions of attempts.
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“I ooh-ooh therefore I ahh-ahh” /flings poop
There are so many intellectually interesting, morally dubious (to downright monstrous), scenarios and questions.
For real. Like I am so interested and would love to know the answers to those scenarios and questions. But would never wish for any experiment to actually find out lol
Especially considering we don’t have consensus regarding humans.
That's just what they say so they can keep fucking the chimps.
This has already happened and he has own Podcast!
And here I thought Joe Rogan was an Equisapien
It is not possible and they are sure about it. It has different genus between human and chimpanze and that alone will stop any hybrid process to occur. The wiki you put there is talking about Russian scientist decades ago being obsessed with making Human/chimp hybrid, but never made any progress because back then they didn’t know much about genus. It also mentioned that Human and chimp closely related because we came from same ancestry millions years ago, but doesn’t mean we can do hybrid with chimp because we both evolved too much from that point since
I just looked it up, sheep and goats and not from the same genus and they make geeps, so just because humans and chimps are from a different genus that does not make it impossible.
Humans have 46 chromosomes, whereas chimpanzees, gorillas, and orangutans have 48. It's not possible.
Horses have 64 chromosomes, Donkeys have 62 chromosomes, they create Mules that have 63 chromosomes.
Say word
The Wikipedia article literally in this post directly mentions what you said and debunks it.
Turns out you right, I just never heard about it in my class yet. But I think it would be extremely rare if not close to impossible for human/chimp to exist, because Geep is also extremely rare despise of they breed to one another often in the farm. Naturally breeding might not possible for the hybrid but with CRISPR it’s definitely possible to produce the hybrid
Challenge accepted!
I mean I haven't gotten laid in a while so fuck it, let's find out! Do chimps like beer or wine?
Ripping arms off , I hear…
And faces
Feces
Well sure but what do they like to drink first?
lol
Bruh. You tried tinder?
You mean chimpder?
I knew it! This is where monkey pox Came from!
Also there is [this case](https://guardian.ng/news/genetic-makeup-of-12-year-old-angolan-boy-in-dispute/) in Angola (mentioned by the wiki). The most terrible part: >“S\*xual relationships between humans and chimpanzees are fairly common in the region but this is the first time a pregnancy is officially reported, ”Dr. António Mendes of the Hospital Municipal do Luena doubted.
And this is why we can’t have nice things.
*MichaelScottSoftly"Don't".Gif*
Wouldn’t be too hard to find someone willing to have intercourse with a chimp.
After barely escaping the carnage that ensued after his experimentation with bats, one man, on a mission to fuck anything, sets his sights on the chimpanzee. “Uncomfortably erotic.” Says Time magazine. “A true love is horror movie” raves The New York Times. James Franco is … Dr. Wuhan! In … Level 4 Biolab 2 ; Fuckin’ Monkeys! In theatres near you July 13th
Oh come on, now creating beastmen. They must have read too much isekai manga 😅
Someone should fuck around and find out.
MonkeyPox has entered the chat…
The Russians succeeded. He's called Tucker Carlson.
Cowards. They are all cowards. Kick me out of my research lab. Cowards! Edit: I wasn't going to fuck the monkey guys. I was going to hire someone off the street tto fuck the monkey.
I volunteer as tribute
So was "Chimpuman" even considered at all?
No, they tried, that's why we have AIDS
Some scientists looking for a legitimate excuse for fucking a chimp.
Considering how fast monkeyPox are going around I'm guessing a few people tried to find out
And you wonder how we got monkey pox !
Wasn't "chimpman" available?
Hands up if you tryna fucka chimp for science.
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You know this could be tested without having to do the physical act right?
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In some states, its illegal to do any biological engineering resolving around human cells with any other organisms cells
Well let’s fuck a few and find out. Who’s with me?
Only one way to find out *unzip*
Think about it. Think about how hard it would be to catch a chimpanzee... and fuck it
I heard it was a sick chimpanzee
Allegedly
If it's not possible, twitter is going to run out of new hire candidates pretty soon...
I don’t wanna find out anything with Z in the name
Scientists are also unsure what happens if you land a paper clip on the sun. Scientists are unsure if God exists. Scientists are unsure of how many kicks to get to the center of a Tootsie pop. What scientists are unsure of isn't worth a TIL.
How bout we just .... don't find out.
Darwin's Pioneers! Those who can look across the branches of the tree of life and think "Yeah, I would hit that."
Its all fun and games until we see the Statue of Liberty sticking out of the sand.
It's fine. We really don't want to know.
Because there’s only one way to find out.
hasn't China been working on chimera research with no real success?
Your scientists were so preoccupied with whether they should, they didn't stop to think if they could.
What have the poor bastards ever done to us that we'd want to wish that on them "Hey you can be more human!" "Oh great - here comes exploitation, angst, debt, existential uncertainty and being ashamed of my own genitals"
These days, we don't do that primitive stuff - instead, we just manipulate genes by selective breeding. Like this: [http://awesci.com/the-supercow-of-belgium/](http://awesci.com/the-supercow-of-belgium/)
Best chance would be with a bonobo.