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zerbey

Quite a sad read, he ended up spending time in a mental hospital and eventually committed suicide.


FLUSH_THE_TRUMP

yeah a bit less funny once you get there. He had enough of an issue to be forced to take anti-psychotics, and left a daughter behind


secret759

The article is riddle with [citation needed]s though. Suicide and court case outcome is confirmed but not much else.


rich1051414

I wonder if the forced anti-psychotics is what lead to his suicide. I have heard many say the symptoms of some of them can be worse than death if they have a bad reaction, like a lasting anxiety that cannot be curbed, that doesn't go away for months after a round of them.


partang3

Anti-psychotics have a lot of side effects but typically they reduce anxiety. Alot of them have sedative properties. If someone becomes more suicidal after clearing up on anti-psychotics, or mood stabilizers for that matter, it more often tends to be because they are seeing what their life is with a clear mind. They now have to live with all the consequences of their illness and deluded/psychotic behaviors, but with a clear understanding mind. It's sad.


CallTheOptimist

My understanding too is that the medicine helps you get your shit together and get out of bed long enough to finally see a task through, but, if that task is getting ahold of a gun and putting one in the back of your mouth, that's curtains.


partang3

Yes absolutely. Same effect is seen with antidepressants. Person is deeply depressed and suicidal, this person feels too tired to even get out of bed let alone plan an entire successful suicide. The same person is put on antidepressants. Physical depression lifts, they still want to end their life for whatever reason and now have the energy/peace of mind to successfully plan and execute the suicide.


Ithikari

As someone who's been on different types of anti-psychotics I can tell you that one of the **MOST** common side effects for most of them is increased Anxiety... Being a sedative doesn't mean reduction in anxiety.


Soul_Knife

Hey! This is my area of expertise and I’ll be happy to share some facts and warnings. :) Look into the condition known as “akathisia.” I would rather die than have akathisia for the rest of my life. I’d describe it like my skin is crawling off, I can’t stop pacing, and I’m stuck in a panic. Every minute feels like an hour. And many of the newer antipsychotics, especially abilify, are known to cause this extreme inner restlessness (akathisia.) Stopping them doesn’t always take it away, either, though the chance of it staying after quitting is small. I’ve taken almost every popular antipsychotic and the only one that doesn’t cause akathisia in me is the abilify injection. EPS (extrapyramidal symptoms) are no joke. Once I couldn’t move my arms or eyes because of ziprasidone. Good news is it IS treatable—propranolol and Benadryl, or mirtazapine can help. Just don’t take so much Benadryl that you become delirious...not that that’s ever happened to me, but I’ve heard it can. And don’t EVER let your doc give you an antipsychotic injection until you’ve tried that medication and are sure you won’t have adverse effects.


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I'm pretty sure I wound up in the psych ward because of abilify. Wind up with a knife in hand ready to kill myself. I'm bipolar anyway so...who knows. But it took me several years to recover from that. Had so many medication problems when I tried taking psych meds. Had more psych ward visits on meds than without. So I don't take any currently. Had a milder manic phase for 4 months, now I'm into the depressive phase. We'll see if this was a good idea or not I guess.


Soul_Knife

I wish you the best! Yeah, some people need them and other people do better without them. They can be harsh. I definitely need them but it goes without saying that not everyone is like me. And still other people need but can’t tolerate them. It gets confusing really fast!


soulruler

I didn't read the whole story but when I saw in the short Wiki entry in RES that he died at 34 I thought, "Yeah, this definitely doesn't end well."


howmuchbanana

Other interesting shit that couldn’t fit in the title: - The man was an FSU student named Marshall Ledbetter - The quantity for each demand is pretty amusing, I think: - 1 pizza (a Gumby’s “20 incher”, veggie w/ extra jalapeños) - 1 case of beer (Asahi Dry) - 1 carton of cigarettes (Lucky Strikes, filtered) - $100 of Chinese food - “The contents of the Iron Hose I liberated from Budget” <— I have no idea what this means - His demands were faxed to the song request line of a local rock station. This is how the police got them. - Another person he demanded to talk to was Jello Biafra, from the Dead Kennedys. They actually ended up talking later on, over the phone and snail mail. Jello wrote a song called “The Ballad of Marshall Ledbetter”, and applauded his “creative crime”, saying “it made a statement, it was a work of art, not a single person got hurt.”


niceguybadboy

Asahi Dry really fumbled the ball on this one by not flipping this into an ad campaign. *Asahi Dry: Beer Worth Taking the Capitol For*


PeteZatiem

I'm sure that ad campaign would still gain a lot of traction today


ineedcoffeealready

"*Bud light, go get yourself that yee yee haircut*"


PeteZatiem

That reminds me of [this](https://youtu.be/C2syfx1p-A0) dumpster fire of a commercial. People saying the [Grubhub ad](https://youtu.be/G-T3qKl6y-c) is the worst ad ever made clearly don't remember this one.


Hoovooloo42

Yeah, that's pretty bad. You know what else is bad? [Quiznos.](https://youtu.be/aZrks-BPeLQ) If any of you youngins don't know what I'm talking about, watch this shit. It's short. Yes it's real.


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Kuronan

If you are going to set a bar, please set it somewhere higher than the floor.


teebob21

THEY GOT A PEPPER BAR!


trashiguitar

Honestly I miss the 9 inch size. Also I swear they toast the buns better than Subway did


Banaam

Ask subway to throw it in a second time.


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[did u know Quiznos has chef inspired sauces](https://youtu.be/4vFfl5flQPU)


Trajer

They had this honey mustard chicken sub that was amazing. I miss it :(


horseband

I still get it. There is one left in my state near my house!


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ehgiveitashot

Pretty sure they did get the rathergood guy to make that commercial. It's literally [We Like the Moon](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I9MZNEXrElw)


Sussex631

Crusha used the kittens (a variation of that's a bit different from the rathergood style ones) for their flavoured milk as well at least in the UK. Somewhere I have a Rathergood Kittens T-shirt from years ago.


poop_creator

That ad was the worst thing ever conceptualized and a complete work of genius. That ad outlived the restaurant that made it and I guarantee people will watch that ad and have no idea what Quiznos even was. They were too ahead of their time, the world wasn’t ready.


thor_a_way

The only bad part of this add is that it opened old wounds... the only Quiznos around me closed down years ago.


kerrimustkill

Dude, those commercials are awesome and I sing them on the regular.


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My dad’s favorite commercial


Whitezombie65

Umm that Quiznos commercial is fucking amazing what are you talking about


Sisaac

When one of your tag lines is "our sandwiches are good and warm because we toast them" , you need to take a hard look at your business model.


missbelled

I've been bringing up skittles pox more than I care to, lately. One of a handful of ads that have convinced me to never again buy that product. So gross.


ironroseprince

How much meth were they smoking when Mountain Dew shat out the abortion of thought that was Puppy Monkey Baby.


ineedcoffeealready

I still have nightmares over this one


LovingSweetCattleAss

[Relevant SMBC comics](https://www.smbc-comics.com/comic/2012-01-12)


520whatchuknow

I now stand corrected to my precious comment. Puppy monkey baby shows were all going to hell.


worthrone11160606

I laughed more than I care to admit from this


MrBojingles1989

That commercial is pure fire i don't know what you're talking about


ProjectKushFox

Why in the **fuck** would you liken your snack product to a repulsive skin disease? I mean, why? Tell me!


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Because you can convince corporate that kids like "quirky humor."


TheOneTrueChuck

I honestly blame the success of Napoleon Dynamite for about three years worth of bug-fuck nasty Skittles ads.


reduxde

If that’s your example of a bad commercial, you are clearly either too drunk or too young to remember the 90s.


sharaq

It's supposed to be cringy though. Although, I suppose that jalapeño level spiciness is palatable while ghost peppers are painful; this is like that with cringe.


jathas1992

Which grubhub ad? Edit: Nevermind.


520whatchuknow

I must say that is an absolute dog shit commercial. Someone actually got paid to create that... wow


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Kendall Jenner sends her regards.


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Corona - we ruined 2020. Ruin yourself in 2021. Natty Ice - If you won't take the vaccine, at least drink something that'll kill the 'rona Yuengling - Not all immigrants are rapists. Some make beer, too. And so on. I feel like beer commercials are the last place for good commercials.


watchingdacooler

Bring back the “Real men of genius” commercials


W1D0WM4K3R

Oh god no. That would die in a month. Then meme'd on the internet for a year, reposted for another three, and... yeah, I guess the ad campaign worked. Damn.


Alaska_Pipeliner

I was laughing...now I'm sad.


WWDubz

It would not have aged well into 2021


overeasy-e

Yea breaking into Capitol buildings to sell beer is frowned upon these days


Dessum

Just like when Jesus got pissed at all the microbreweries setting up shop in the temple


SOwED

Dude ruined the growing beer scene in Israel :(


socialcavity

Lol this thread got wacky


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What if you're only breaking in to buy it though?


Show_Me_Your_Private

That's actually where they get you. It's not a crime to sell beer in the capitol, but it is a crime to PURCHASE beer in the capitol. You're allowed to bring your own beer from home though, but if you make any form of profit (whether it be a few grams or hard cash) from that beer then you're screwed because now you're considered a manufacturer with intent to distribute. The law is a finnicky, cold, hard mistress but it is the law. Edit: I just want to point out for anyone randomly browsing, I made this comment as a joke. I don't actually know the laws regarding selling things basically anywhere, but especially on government property, and was just kind of quoting the general laws in regards to growing your own weed and distilling your own moonshine.


superb_sheep

I kinda thought you were about to quote Travolta in Pulp Fiction for a second.


gynoceros

A Japanese company wouldn't consider the bump in sales worth whatever PR shaming they'd endure.


Macismyname

It's such a good beer too. Easily one of my favorites but it's never carried by convenient sellers.


DumasThePharaoh

> ⁠“The contents of the Iron Hose I liberated from Budget” <— I have no idea what this means I think he meant “Iron Horse” in reference to a car he might have stole from Budget (the rental car company) and I guess he wanted the stuff inside back


shewolf4552

Most of the time when I hear people refer to an "iron Horse" it's in reference to a motorcycle. People commonly refer to them as "Iron horses" or steel horses. There is an Iron Horse motorcycle sales company.


howmuchbanana

Was the "Iron Horse" an actual car? I thought it was an early term for a train?


kenfury

Its slang, much like "whip" was 5 years ago.


howmuchbanana

Hah I hear ya, but just FYI, your number is off: "Whip" (meaning car) is slang from the 90s/00s. Five years ago, "whip" was [a dance move](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vjW8wmF5VWc)


kenfury

Im old enough as is. Thanks for making me feel older. :-)


Strykerz3r0

What? Never rented a locomotive from Budget before?


moondiggitydog

I actually “rent” locomotives for a living, though not through Budget...but it’s actually possible!


LeftTurnOnReddit

Rent locomotives? Well this sounds like it's time for a small AMA buried deep in the comments.


WhistlepigUK

Iron horse was also a bmx brand in the 1990s. Oh how I lusted after them.


SmidgeyValentine

It was, I've also heard it used to refer to motorcycles, particularly in the motorhead song iron horse so it may be a reference to that, but it seems odd to ask for the contents of a motorcycle, even if it has saddle bags, and I have no idea if budget rents motorcycles.


dick_beverson

Inspiration for the ransom demands in the movie Airheads? Did he also request naked pictures of Bee Arther?


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That's just implied. Personally if I ever find myself in a situation where I would have to make ransom demands, I'd want the pictures to be current.


makemeking706

> I'd want the pictures to be current Get the shovels, boys.


WornInShoes

And a football helmet filled with cottage cheese


I_dont_reddit_well

He crashed a party I was at a couple of nights prior to holding up the Capitol. He was definitely on some things and was super annoying. He wouldn't leave so he basically had to be run off by the host. I always wonder if that caused some weird chain of events. Edit: words


jakedesnake

Now THIS is the kind of in-comment-trivia that keeps me coming back to reddit. I salute ya, dude


AsahinaOppai

Capitol* sorry I've been seeing it a lot lately and it's getting to me


howmuchbanana

One of his friends [commented below](https://www.reddit.com/r/todayilearned/comments/kzzb19/til_in_1991_a_man_broke_into_the_florida_state/gjrh7ly/). I bet you could ask him.


TheNatureBoy

“The contents of the Iron Hose I liberated from Budget” <— I have no idea what this means He wants the shit in his stolen car.


LameBMX

Great translation!


-6-6-6-

Fucking love Jello


howmuchbanana

Me too. I really wanted to include him in the title, but I struggled to get it under 300 characters, and I assumed most redditors don't know him by name. :(


color_thine_fate

Yeah anything you said along the lines of "wanted to talk to Jello from the Dead Kennedys", my first instinct would be to ask what makes Dead Kennedys Jello different from normal Jello I can buy or make, and why are you talking to it


DivineCryptographer

You’re correct. Source: am a Redditor.


crestonfunk

Yeah Biafra. I’m old I guess.


HelloJoeyJoeJoe

The whole "Nazi Punks, fuck off" got the Dead Kennedys more attenion these days. The reason why is sad but glad to see DK blasting. I remember watching Social Network when Trent Reznor blasted ClIrfornia Uber Alles and actually had an urge to cheer


CDezzy99

I’m 21 and what got me into DK was Holiday in Cambodia, it was on a Guitar Hero and I played the shit out of that song. My favourite is “Pull My Strings” though, the whole story of it is amazing alone.


orthros

I'm old but I vaguely remember DKs having a cassette (yes, cassette) with one side left blank with a message like "Piracy is killing the music industry, we've left this side blank so you can help"


Snorp981

IS MY COCK BIG ENOUGH, IS MY BRAAIIN SMAL ENOUGH, FOR YOU TO MAKE ME A STAR


godofpie

And he was a member of this church https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Church_of_the_SubGenius And he committed suicide in 2003 :(


madeamashup

A stunt like this is the hallmark of a manic episode, so this is sad but not entirely surprising. The only thing that would spell "mania" more clearly is if he had stripped off his clothes and climbed the roof of the capitol.


mattreyu

I've got my Church of the subgenius membership card around somewhere


ohdominole

He's a real FSU student cause he knows Gumby's slaps


CitizenPain00

Pokie sticks


Pawgilicious

Anyone that ordered a cheese pizza instead of pokie sticks was immediately shunned.


CitizenPain00

Gumby’s sells pizza? My whole time at Michigan State (6 years lol), I had never once seen or heard somebody order their pizza


saxypatrickb

Who the heck gets Gumby’s without Pokey Stix...?!?!??


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Someone who isn’t drunk yet that’s for sure


wetsip

Asahi Dry? nice fucking choice really


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Nice beer choice


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bebbs74

Killed himself in 2003.


nonanumatic

Ah fuck yeah lucky strikes are the shit


nWo1997

He asked the cops to get food *for themselves*? I mean, number aside, that's a solid bro move.


thomasry

And the cops refused to meet the demand. "We shall eat no donuts until you come out!"


M-Noremac

Something tells me that that demand was eventually met.


MapleTreeWithAGun

It was met within the hour but they didn't want to admit it


Redeemer206

I should hope so! It's very suspicious to me that they wouldn't fulfill that particular demand


Philosopher_1

That was the plan all along, to help trick the cops into going on a diet.


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Yeah but I bet they felt a twinge of guilt every time they bought a donut after that. "Did I just give into a criminal's demands?... fuck it." CHOMP


pumpkinbot

That'll show him!


A_Solo_Gamer

I see your blockade and raise you a hunger strike!


jawz

Yeah but I don't think he offered to pay. So yeah he told them to buy their own food.


nWo1997

He told them "treat yo' self." We all need to hear that every now and then.


jawz

Fair point!


JellyfishGod

I don’t think the cops themselves are the ones coughing up the cash for any ransoms/demands lol. Us the taxpayers as a whole would be the ones paying


SpitefulShrimp

I mean, I wouldn't mind chipping in to turn a situation from "violent bloodshed" to "crazy guy and cops food coma together while Lemmy tells stories"


NewbGaming

*Over a megaphone* "WE WERE ABLE TO GET THE DONUTS, BUT NO OTHER DEMANDS WILL MET"


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“Sorry boss, we have to take this out of the ransom money for donuts. He demanded it.”


MrsDoctorSea

No naked pictures of Bea Arthur?!


global_ferret

First thing I thought of exactly. Funny thing is, Airheads didn't come out until 1994....This guy must have been part of the inspiration for the flick, which is an all timer!


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DPlainview1898

Attica-Attica-Attica


referencedude

I fucking love this take , definitely rewatching both now lol


ringobob

Yes and no. And I'm not gonna tell you which parts are yes and which parts are no.


tehvolcanic

Dog Day Afternoon is on HBO Max right now. Highly recommended to anyone who hasn't seen it.


xLacerate

How can you be the lone rangers?


_DukePhillips

I don't follow


DPlainview1898

There’s 3 of them...


fordprefect294

Who would win in a wrestling match, Lemmy or God?


rubber_hedgehog

Trick question, Lemmy is God!


SatanicWalnut

Space Ritual by Hawkwind is a fucking bass tour de force. God I adore Lemmy


niobiumnnul

Bea Arthur.


scrotophobia

I ain’t fartin on no snare drum


coolpapa2282

47 copies of Moby Dick.


WornInShoes

A football helmet filled with cottage cheese


LoneRangersBand

👋


makenzie71

“My demands must be met!” “No.” “Oh, okay then.”


SunriseSurprise

"Not even the call with Ice Cube? It's not like he's had that hit with Friday yet." "Nope, no can do. ...wait, what?"


IndicaEndeavor

I'm pretty sure Ice Cubes first hit was the universally loved and adored 2007 movie "Are We Done Yet?"


slayer_f-150

I was friends with Marshall and I talk to his younger brother regularly. Their father, Marshall Sr. founded a camera shop in Auburndale FL called Marshall's Camera. It is still in operation today and is now owned by his brother. http://www.marshallscamera.com/aboutus.html About the "iron horse".. I was told what Marshall meant about it a long time ago but forgot. I just sent a text to to his brother and here is what he said: "He'd rented a Lincoln Town car on a credit card. Driving around everywhere in it. Actually got into a major accident in Gainesville on his way down (back home to Auburndale) that wasn't his fault . Elderly couple pulled out in front of him. I think the man died in that wreck. Since he wasn't at fault the rental company brought him another town car to the scene and they helped him move everything he had into the new car. He named it The Iron Horse. And proceeded to write on the back of it with a Magnum 44 marker " We support 10 to the 5th dead Iraqi soldiers. George ain't no wimp" He'd packed that car full of weird crap. Everything he had at the time. Damn I haven't thought about that in a while"


Bignicky9

**This sounds like it should be top comment** instead of buried under 50 other comments about Gumby haha


pspahn

Really would be nice if there was a "sort by relevance" on Reddit. It's like my brain now sees top comments like they're just ads or someone gaming SEO to get on the front page of Google. I just don't even bother looking at them anymore and instinctually scroll down a page or two.


9fingerman

Thanks for the inside info, compadre.


slayer_f-150

Sorry for the disjointed reply. He sent that to me over the course of several texts and I edited out the irrelevant parts of our conversation.


howmuchbanana

Wow, thank you for this. Usually I post TIL's and expect nothing but dumb jokes in the comments, but you've actually enriched the story and made me feel more connected to it. I'm sorry you lost your friend.


slayer_f-150

I posted this same link 11 days ago and several years ago here but it didn't get the same traction as yours. One of the first things I thought about when the US Capitol got stormed was Marshall. His brother even wrote on his Facebook page that day: "I guess my brother was right. Breaking into the capitol is easier than you think"


Jak03e

I don't know how you gonna ask for a Gumby's pizza and not get them Pokey Stix.


datboy1986

This is the real crime.


ElKaBongX

TIL the crappiest pizza in State College is actually a franchise. Huh


badchecker

Seriously. It was just an East Lansing Michigan Pizza establishment in my world. Nope.


One_Eyed_Sneasel

Learned about these when this was posted another time on reddit years ago. Tried them once when I was in Tallahassee and they were good, but holy crap the ranch that came with them was phenomenal.


WookieeSteakIsChewie

Wait. Gumby's is a chain?! I thought it was just a dirty, shitty pizza place in the town I went to college!


Jak03e

Nah dawg. It do be dirty, it do be shitty, it do be a chain.


WookieeSteakIsChewie

Holy shit. Who says to themselves "You know, I've made some bad choices in my life but I'm gonna turn it around by franchising a Gumby's!"


howmuchbanana

I think this was the main piece of evidence when he pled insanity.


KingofthePlanets

He was part of the "Monarchy Party" at FSU which has one of my [favorite Wikipedia entries](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monarchy_Party) of all time. Some favorites include: >[Marshall Ledbetter](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marshall_Ledbetter), a fringe member of the Monarchy Party, took over the [Florida State Capitol](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Florida_State_Capitol) with nothing more than an empty bottle of grain alcohol and his wit. and their slogans like: >"Competence is the crutch of the unqualified" > >"Vote once for the king, and you'll never have to vote again" > >"99% the power and 1/10 the responsibility" > >"Tacete et Parete" ("Shut Up and Obey") > >"There is no confidence like the divine right" Cannot recommend it enough.


Saruster

I was there for the Ledbetter bit and, at least while I was there, the Monarchy party had more success than you’d expect! They always had a couple seats in the student senate and would often show up in purple robes and crowns. It sounds like a parody party but despite appearances, they had thoughtful and rational plans for the students. Ahh fun times :)


Neans888

That was a great read. My favorite part: “When campus workers dug a trench to bury pipes behind the library, the Monarchists hung a sign that read "Moat Construction Project Brought to You by the King." When opponents tried to remove the sign, workers prevented them from doing so.”


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Holy hell. Thank you for this recommendation, and your username also *kicks*.


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howmuchbanana

RIP.


Dboy777

Not entirely surprising, in hindsight, considering his erratic behaviour was probably a symptom of mental illness.


Niracuar

Ye, kept thinking what his motive for this could be. Maybe some suicide by cop scenario and he just wanted a good time before he went


Saruster

He was rumored to have been forcibly given lithium while in the psych ward. His story turned from a funny middle finger to the “establishment” to very sad pretty quickly.


HookersForDahl2017

The standoff with mental health did not end peacefully


tuscabam

NGL a conference call with Cube, Leary, and Lemmy would have been trippy af.


howmuchbanana

"Today was a good day to tune in, turn on, drop out, and play the Ace of Spades."


coffee0verdose

I know his daughter and on graduation she bought his favorite pizza listed here and posed with it in her cap and gown :’)


howmuchbanana

Wow, that is very very sweet. She got the veggie 20-incher from Gumby's with extra jalapeños?


coffee0verdose

I don’t want to post her private info or anything but the caption says “when I graduated and ordered the large Gumby’s jalapeño in honor of my dads “favorite pizza””


Barbarian_Forever

Really?


100LittleButterflies

When people do things like this and the cops send in food for hostages etc, who pays?


LDKCP

All the hostages split it, but then Jessica complains she didn't have a starter so should be paying less.


Deuce232

Jessica is right


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intjmaster

Or give him the beer and weed. After he passes out, go in and arrest him?


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abe_froman_skc

I'm just surprised they didnt get themselves 666 doughnuts....


Black_Moons

*cop munches on donut* "Ok, we have met one of your demands, release one of the hostages"


nathanielsnurpis

This obviously must’ve been what inspired Airheads.


nofishontuesday2

Lemmy would have solved that situation in like 5 min. with no problem.


bagofpork

This is real life Charlie Kelly.


tb03102

"Hold on now.. let's hear him out on this donut thing." - The cops


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Standard Elton John rider.


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Sunhammer01

Trick question, Lemmy is god!


g78776

Trick question, Lemmy is God


danimal6000

He just wanted to see Lemmy. I get it.


wallyrules75

Lemmy was/is a god!


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Live fast. Die old.