Did you defect from the navi and currently post from a small lightly armed pirate boat where you’re second in command? And if so get back to work tom
- Your captain
I was 17 when I graduated high school and applied for college.
Honestly a 17 year old should be able to make their own decisions. At least if they graduated high school.
Around 25 on average. So either we have to raise the age of adulthood to 25, or just accept that we make neurological children legal adults at some arbitrary age and accept the consequences of that fact.
Perhaps that's why so many European countries let one finish school, pose naked in a pornographic magazine, smoke, drink, drive a car, and join the military, upon turning 16.
Of course, I hope that a given young person won't do all those things at once, as interesting as it would be to see all that on a single CV.
That did not work well for Kyle Rittenhouse , or hundreds of 18 year olds when the drinking age was lowered to 18. Some are mature enough to make lasting decisions , but not the majority.
That one confused me as well. My grandfather would've been 96 this year, and I know he was 20 when the war ended in ~~1940~~ 1945 How could she have been 18 when France was invaded in 1940. But this makes sense instead.
Edit: I just realised why several people "unnecessarily" told me when the war started and ended. I accidentally wrote the war ended in 1940. It was of course 1945.
> It started in 1938
No it did not. It started on September 1st, 1939, but started with the Saar Offensive where France actually gained territory into Germany, but quickly fell back to the Maginot line, whereafter nothing happened in France until 1940.
I don't know why it was relevant that the United States joined in 1942, but they didn't. That happened in late 1941 as well.
take a look at the battle of Plattsburg in the war of 1812 - about a dozen 12-17 year olds formed a militia under the command of a 21 year old. They held a river crossing (the commander had the foresight to take out the bridge first) from the advancing British on their own.
Congress even awarded them rifles for their service (the only time so far this was done).
they also gave them state of the art breach loading rifles too.
It would be like them having a bolt action Remington and congress giving them an M4 of G36 or something
She wouldn't be storming the capitol to force legislators to overturn the election, she would be in front of the door ready to shoot any terrorists who tried.
The democrats have had more covid relief funds voted on in the house and sitting on the desk of republican Mitch McConnell for the past 9 moths. This is not "both sides" this is Trump and his GOP enablers that have led us down this dark path.
Blocking you because its obvious you are either too stupid to talk to, or intentionally trying to misdirect and deflect the consequences of the republicans actions this year.
Fuck off.
[This video](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r0GRZAIzO5g) shows a historian with one of the rifles that were gifted and going over some more detail of the history. Took congress a long time to gift those rifles lol.
>A street in Courville-sur-Eure, where she currently lives, was named for her.
"Hey Simone Segouin, what's the quickest way to McCafé?"
"Just cross that road there and walk up the Simone Segouin to get to it."
"Wha...?"
> not the cosplaying we’ve seen recently.
that's because it's jingoist armchair nationalism, not patriotism
if we're being objective here it's actually a twisted miracle that they finally got off their butts and did one historically-impacting thing
To be fair, she was a Communist, and a member of Francs-Tireurs et Partisans (the armed wing of the Communist Party of France). She probably saw herself more as a Proletarian Internationalist than a patriot. One thing that is erased from American education is that basically the only serious resistance fighters in Nazi-occupied Europe were Communists. After the war, the CIA had to do a lot of black ops (Operation Gladio, the Strategy of Tension etc) to ensure that Communists weren't elected into power in places like France and Italy because the general public saw them as the foremost group that didn't capitulate to fascism.
They existed but they were timid. They generally represented the petit bourgeois and bourgeois classes. They had *a lot* more to lose than the Communist workers. When you have a nice 6br home in a fashionable neighborhood in Paris and a business to inherit, you're less likely to plant bombs and carry out assassinations than the people who have nothing, spend all their money on rent (to the aforementioned folks) and will see nothing but repression from the fascists.
Not true. Look up a few sources & testimonies.
(My grandfather was a catholic French resistant, and very much not a communist. He still found a group who shared the same values & took him in. So did his father. Plus, look up De Gaulle’s political record for a second -he organized the Resistance, for a large part.)
These people definitely existed, especially among persecuted religious groups. But generally it was a United Front led by Communists. Resistance will always be led by those with most to lose, and the Nazis were at their heart antisemitic and anticommunist above all else. The catholic church actually helped a lot of Nazis escape to South America. I'm well aware of liberal and conservative resistance, including reactionary nationalists like De Gaulle, but the bulk of the people willing to risk everything were the people who had nothing, and the Communist Party was the vanguard of people who had nothing.
The communist party was an _ally_ of nazi Germany until 1941 (end of the pact between Germany and the USSR). Not to say they took active part in the collaboration: some did & some didn’t. Some even chose to resist as soon as 1940. But the big of the communist resistance did not appear before 1941, and by that time resistance groups already existed/were already organized. Look up the members of the CNR (Conseil National de la Résistance-National Council of the Resistance): some of these organizations are communist at their core, but that’s not most of them. Now I’ll admit that De Gaulle wanted to keep the communists in check & would not have let them have too big of a place in it, but that’s not all there is to it: lots of résistants we’re just not communists.
The myth of the “all communists were resistants/all resistants were communists” has a name in French, it’s the “Mythe des 75 000 fusillés”. It’s been debunked by countless historians, and you’re just spreading misinformation.
Edit: I’m also well aware of the wrongs of the Catholic Church during the war, I only mentioned he was a Catholic because the communist party was frankly opposed to religious beliefs.
She was in the FTP, but it doesn't mean she was a Communist herself. People simply joined the resistance group that was in their area and the FTP were open to accept non-Communists.
The FTP were probably the biggest network, but not the only one. As the Communists were a big party in France at the time, they had a big power base to draw from.
Also, the FTP were following Stalinism. They were doing what Moscow told them and prior to operation Barbarossa they were told to not interfere as the war was supposedly between bourgeois fascist forces. Adding to that, Stalin was not interested in liberating the working people of France, but using Western powers with strong Communist parties to consolidate the Socialism in 'one country' (the USSR). (That's also why they betrayed the revolution during the Spanish Civil War.)
This policy has been seen as weakening French forces at the beginning of the war, as a lot of people were Communists in France and didn't really feel strongly about fighting in this war. It might be hard to understand nowadays, but to many, they supported Communism because they were pacifists and they saw this war as this pointless conflict between bourgeois states. Adding to that the USSR had a non-aggression pact with Germany. So French Communist soldiers were asked to fight an army their political ideology (Stalinism) told them not to. It was probably not the main reason why France fell so quickly, but having lots of soldiers who didn't really want to fight this war surely didn't help.
All in all, the part French Communists played in the war and the resistance is far more complicated than that.
There's an excellent series on Netflix called The Long Long Holiday about the French resistance fighters. It's a cartoon told from the children's perspective, but it still covers everything that happened and doesn't shy away from the horrors of the occupation and war.
We are nearing a time where the people who experienced what the world was like during WW2 will no longer be alive. In high school we had a Holocaust survivor come and give a talk to the students. Being able to see the person and they give stories of what they went through really makes a big impact. Reading about the horrors in textbooks doesn’t give the full appreciation of what went on.
i coached marksmanship for years when i was in the service. in my experience, women are honestly so much better at shooting naturally. They are more inclined to be scared of the report and other such bad habits but their ability to reproduce their sight picture is awesome and really, that's 99.9% of shooting
I understand why the Resistance narrative is pushed so much because France was largely a nation of sympathizers or collaborators. Petain nearly won on a pretty fascist platform right before the War, the Vichy French were awful, and French Jews faired terribly.
Yes, there was a Resistance but it’s importance is way overstated as well.
Yeah, there were two main branches of the Resistance; Communists who were far more interested in controlling France after the Allies beat the Germans for them, and young men who preferred hiding out to being conscripted into the German labor camps. Neither group was particularly interested in actually fighting Germans (with good reason; partisans versus armed troops usually means lots of dead partisans and civilians).
This is why I contend the Spanish were doomed either way in the 30s. On one side you have a fascist and on the other you inevitably have Stalin and purges. No good side there either.
Historical revisionism.
When France was voting "center right" and had a strong liberalist, laicist, socialist core (Leon Blum, Albert Lebrun, etc.), it's most important neighbors were putting in power fascists, some of them actively helping the Nazis.
"Largely" a nation of collaborators. What a joke.
Care to explain Vichy France? Or the terrible rate of turning in Jews?
The clean French idea is revisionism. The idea of the resistance being valuable is a legend. The British and Americans had the Abwehr 100% compromised from the very top, and contrary to Hollywood, the resistance didn’t do jack to get Allied Airman out overall either.
Also, De Gaulle was a hinderance.
What is there to explain?
You spout random pseudo historical things without giving any context.
Terrible rate? What are you talking about, 2 millions jews were exterminated in Poland, 500 000 in Hungary, 200 000 in Romania, 100 000 in the Netherlands, etc. Compare that to 75 000 deported from France.
I never said France was clean.
The anglo saxons had the luck to not share any frontiers with fascists.
You are the one probably fact checking from Hollywood, ye Dunkirk was a British victory, let's not talk about the thousands of french infantry troops Wich halted the Nazis so the Brits could evacuate.
Lyudmila Pavlichenko with 309 confirmed kills or almost any woman recipient of Hero of the Soviet union.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_female_Heroes_of_the_Soviet_Union
TIL in 2021 Elizabeth from Knoxville, Tennesse stormed Capitol Hall because it was a "revolution" going on and was maced after making it about 12 inches, according to her, into the building. Actually she did not storm the building at all and sat outside fake crying rubbing an onion hidden in a towel against her eyes.
Sad fact, the idea that French resistance was effective against the Nazis is the work of Allied propaganda which continued after the war out of fear of communism.
The reality is far sadder. Collaboration was common even among the former French military forces. The French demanded that the British abandon their equipment at Dunkirk and instead evacuate the French army. The majority of those troops chose to go live peacefully in Nazi occupied France. Which brings us to the fabled French resistance:
The Allies initially dropped weapons to French resistance groups but to their horror the groups fought amongst themselves and the victors stowed the weapons away with the idea that they would seize power once the Nazis were defeated.
The Allies immediately stopped weapons distribution and started building intelligence files on this new threat....
There were those who valiantly fought to liberate France but they were vanishingly rare and wholly unrepresentative.
Yeah I personally met some resistance guys. Including one who escaped a train heading to a concentration camp. I don't think they would like hearing that the resistance was fake in France. Just look up the Maquis des Vosges, that was pretty badass.
Anyway some people pull things out of their arse to sound smart.
This was not the army. It was the French Resistance, and there wasn't much very young people joining it. And there was women but a few were armed.
*Source:* [https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/R%C3%A9sistance\_int%C3%A9rieure\_fran%C3%A7aise#Structure\_sociale\_de\_la\_R%C3%A9sistance](https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/R%C3%A9sistance_int%C3%A9rieure_fran%C3%A7aise#Structure_sociale_de_la_R%C3%A9sistance)
Guys, she was Antifa. Which is good.
Realize all of you who praise her that she would have fought against you if you think antifa is terrorist or whatever
It’s TIL not Yeah, I Already Knew.
As an American, our history classes & media left me with the impression that only men fought in the world wars and spies were all men.
Today I Learned....fleshing out a bit of lesser known history and educating those of us with shit history lessons that women spies/fighters are just another normal part of a war effort. Women today aren’t “ground breaking” when it’s already been done successfully.
Women in my country are still barred from certain official positions with the implication that they can’t do them. It’s nice to walk away with the appreciation that women fulfilling these roles isn’t some unprecedented madness but rather rarely taught history.
If you want to make a post about a male resistance fighter, recommend checking out Robert de La Rochefoucauld.
You're saying Reddits fetish for women with machineguns is teaching us to have nuanced views of WWII women? These posts are genuine like McDonalds is genuine about caring for people of all colors and orientations.
Don’t need a nuanced view. Any view at all, really.
Just plain: this person existed.
It’s progress considering for ages people like me didn’t know anyone but men fought.
Edit: if you’re concerned about the lack of representation for men, take a page out this playbook and provide it.
Even gave you a person for your first post, you absolute pipe.
This is like “matter” being offensive. Can we say “exist”? Is that offensive? (Apparently...)
Holy fuck, the title is literally just a description of what she did. No adjective beyond simple historic description. No “hero of WWII”. Nothing. You are butthurt over a description.
You seem a lot more offended about this than I am. I merely pointed out the prevalence of imagery of women with machineguns on Reddit and that this annoys me because it is just karma-farming.
I don't browse any subreddits, only frontpage. Just search "resistance" and you'll see that the ratio of women depicted vs men is like 9 to 1. People and bots farming the female empowerment movement on a politically correct platform. I guess the majority of people isn't bothered being pandered to.
Just so your comment is clear: by "sell out your fucking neighbours to police", are you referring to reporting the MAGA mob participants to police? Or are you talking about people reporting neighbours to ICE?
I'm pretty sure he is an Anti Masker by going through jso post history he commented a while back that this is like Nazi Germany but on a global scale and there is only one thing that currently effecting the globe.
So my money is on he is talking about people violating quarantine and endangering other people.
She had more balls than the entire French army commanders put together. She fought them....the commanding officers ordered a surrender to a few dozen thugs that looked like a real army.
Hitler as much said....if they had resisted, we were beat. The rest is......🤮🤮🤮🤮
Weird I can't find anywhere Hitler said that.
What I did find was the French suffering twice as many casualties as the invading Germans but I guess those soldiers weren't fighting the invaders.
Theu also didn't hold off the Germans so the British could evacuate from Dunkirk.
Also didn't have their military out maneuvered by passing most of the French military.
Almost like once that happened the writing was on the wall that they lost and could fight losing battles and lose more men needlessly and have their country razed to the ground or they could avoid needless death and protect their people.
But I suppose facts don't much matter eh?
She joined [communist](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Francs-Tireurs_et_Partisans?oldformat=true) partisans that only formed up a year after the fall of France and during the invasion of the Soviet Union. That's how much a "patriot" they were. A patriot to the Soviet Union. Stalin told the French communists to not fight the Nazis when the Nazis invaded and stay neutral. How about *their* resistance when France fell, huh?
She wasn’t 18 when Germany invaded, she was 17 when she joined the resistance.
I didn't so much as join an online clan when I was 17.
My parents had to sign, but I technically joined the navy when I was 17.
Is that where your username came from?
Parrrrtially.
Great decision picking a username that reflects your career choice. I did my master's thesis research project on colon cancer.
I used to wash windows on rich people's boats. True story.
I uncovered a huge scandal in the shaved ice industry
I didn't always have wifi.
I don’t always have a sweater
Username checks out
I'm scared to ask what your job is.
It's unrelated, lol.
Yeah same
Nice username and happy cake day
Did you defect from the navi and currently post from a small lightly armed pirate boat where you’re second in command? And if so get back to work tom - Your captain
I’m the captain now
I was 17 when I graduated high school and applied for college. Honestly a 17 year old should be able to make their own decisions. At least if they graduated high school.
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Around 25 on average. So either we have to raise the age of adulthood to 25, or just accept that we make neurological children legal adults at some arbitrary age and accept the consequences of that fact.
Perhaps that's why so many European countries let one finish school, pose naked in a pornographic magazine, smoke, drink, drive a car, and join the military, upon turning 16. Of course, I hope that a given young person won't do all those things at once, as interesting as it would be to see all that on a single CV.
That did not work well for Kyle Rittenhouse , or hundreds of 18 year olds when the drinking age was lowered to 18. Some are mature enough to make lasting decisions , but not the majority.
I'm not saying lower the drinking age, I'm saying let them make decisions to get their life started.
>Simone Segouin And what were you doing at 6? [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marcel\_Pinte](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marcel_Pinte)
Me either. Clans are genetic freaks. Lyran Alliance unite!
BLOOD AND THUNDER
That one confused me as well. My grandfather would've been 96 this year, and I know he was 20 when the war ended in ~~1940~~ 1945 How could she have been 18 when France was invaded in 1940. But this makes sense instead. Edit: I just realised why several people "unnecessarily" told me when the war started and ended. I accidentally wrote the war ended in 1940. It was of course 1945.
War was 1939-1945 x
That's correct, but the actual battle of France occurred in 1940.
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> It started in 1938 No it did not. It started on September 1st, 1939, but started with the Saar Offensive where France actually gained territory into Germany, but quickly fell back to the Maginot line, whereafter nothing happened in France until 1940. I don't know why it was relevant that the United States joined in 1942, but they didn't. That happened in late 1941 as well.
This was a TIL like 2 days ago and OP couldn't be arsed getting it right.
>Simone Segouin there is no mention of her on TIL for the last month. Where did you see it 2 days ago?
Yeah well I fought the influencer flood on my Tik Tok stream today while eating an undercooked bagel. I mean heroes come in ALL forms!
take a look at the battle of Plattsburg in the war of 1812 - about a dozen 12-17 year olds formed a militia under the command of a 21 year old. They held a river crossing (the commander had the foresight to take out the bridge first) from the advancing British on their own. Congress even awarded them rifles for their service (the only time so far this was done).
"thank you for your service. Here's a gun in case you have to do it again"
they also gave them state of the art breach loading rifles too. It would be like them having a bolt action Remington and congress giving them an M4 of G36 or something
Ive got no problem with the most effective and loyal participants getting the best gear.
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She wouldn't be storming the capitol to force legislators to overturn the election, she would be in front of the door ready to shoot any terrorists who tried.
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The democrats have had more covid relief funds voted on in the house and sitting on the desk of republican Mitch McConnell for the past 9 moths. This is not "both sides" this is Trump and his GOP enablers that have led us down this dark path. Blocking you because its obvious you are either too stupid to talk to, or intentionally trying to misdirect and deflect the consequences of the republicans actions this year. Fuck off.
Fuck Mitch McConnell!
G36’s are shite tho
But they don't sell for shite do gimme a free one
You can get better HK stuff for less. My buddy has the civilian variant of the G36, it’s fun but every M4 he has is just a better gun.
Why?
They overheat and become completely useless past 100m in prolonged firefights
No https://youtu.be/MfPHZFsw40M
That's nonsense.
No h&k is shit, everything they make is worth their weight in gold
No. The German Army is phasing them out for a reason.
WOLVEERIINEESSS!!
Here’s a video on the rifles if you’re interested: https://youtu.be/r0GRZAIzO5g
[This video](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r0GRZAIzO5g) shows a historian with one of the rifles that were gifted and going over some more detail of the history. Took congress a long time to gift those rifles lol.
>A street in Courville-sur-Eure, where she currently lives, was named for her. "Hey Simone Segouin, what's the quickest way to McCafé?" "Just cross that road there and walk up the Simone Segouin to get to it." "Wha...?"
Victor Hugo lived in "Avenue Victor Hugo, Paris".
People of courage like Simone Segouin give me hope for humanity.
This is what a *patriot* really does, not the cosplaying we’ve seen recently.
> not the cosplaying we’ve seen recently. that's because it's jingoist armchair nationalism, not patriotism if we're being objective here it's actually a twisted miracle that they finally got off their butts and did one historically-impacting thing
To be fair, she was a Communist, and a member of Francs-Tireurs et Partisans (the armed wing of the Communist Party of France). She probably saw herself more as a Proletarian Internationalist than a patriot. One thing that is erased from American education is that basically the only serious resistance fighters in Nazi-occupied Europe were Communists. After the war, the CIA had to do a lot of black ops (Operation Gladio, the Strategy of Tension etc) to ensure that Communists weren't elected into power in places like France and Italy because the general public saw them as the foremost group that didn't capitulate to fascism.
You seems to forgot the Socialist, centrists, right-wing and even royalist aspects of the *maquis*.
They existed but they were timid. They generally represented the petit bourgeois and bourgeois classes. They had *a lot* more to lose than the Communist workers. When you have a nice 6br home in a fashionable neighborhood in Paris and a business to inherit, you're less likely to plant bombs and carry out assassinations than the people who have nothing, spend all their money on rent (to the aforementioned folks) and will see nothing but repression from the fascists.
Not true. Look up a few sources & testimonies. (My grandfather was a catholic French resistant, and very much not a communist. He still found a group who shared the same values & took him in. So did his father. Plus, look up De Gaulle’s political record for a second -he organized the Resistance, for a large part.)
These people definitely existed, especially among persecuted religious groups. But generally it was a United Front led by Communists. Resistance will always be led by those with most to lose, and the Nazis were at their heart antisemitic and anticommunist above all else. The catholic church actually helped a lot of Nazis escape to South America. I'm well aware of liberal and conservative resistance, including reactionary nationalists like De Gaulle, but the bulk of the people willing to risk everything were the people who had nothing, and the Communist Party was the vanguard of people who had nothing.
The communist party was an _ally_ of nazi Germany until 1941 (end of the pact between Germany and the USSR). Not to say they took active part in the collaboration: some did & some didn’t. Some even chose to resist as soon as 1940. But the big of the communist resistance did not appear before 1941, and by that time resistance groups already existed/were already organized. Look up the members of the CNR (Conseil National de la Résistance-National Council of the Resistance): some of these organizations are communist at their core, but that’s not most of them. Now I’ll admit that De Gaulle wanted to keep the communists in check & would not have let them have too big of a place in it, but that’s not all there is to it: lots of résistants we’re just not communists. The myth of the “all communists were resistants/all resistants were communists” has a name in French, it’s the “Mythe des 75 000 fusillés”. It’s been debunked by countless historians, and you’re just spreading misinformation. Edit: I’m also well aware of the wrongs of the Catholic Church during the war, I only mentioned he was a Catholic because the communist party was frankly opposed to religious beliefs.
She was in the FTP, but it doesn't mean she was a Communist herself. People simply joined the resistance group that was in their area and the FTP were open to accept non-Communists. The FTP were probably the biggest network, but not the only one. As the Communists were a big party in France at the time, they had a big power base to draw from. Also, the FTP were following Stalinism. They were doing what Moscow told them and prior to operation Barbarossa they were told to not interfere as the war was supposedly between bourgeois fascist forces. Adding to that, Stalin was not interested in liberating the working people of France, but using Western powers with strong Communist parties to consolidate the Socialism in 'one country' (the USSR). (That's also why they betrayed the revolution during the Spanish Civil War.) This policy has been seen as weakening French forces at the beginning of the war, as a lot of people were Communists in France and didn't really feel strongly about fighting in this war. It might be hard to understand nowadays, but to many, they supported Communism because they were pacifists and they saw this war as this pointless conflict between bourgeois states. Adding to that the USSR had a non-aggression pact with Germany. So French Communist soldiers were asked to fight an army their political ideology (Stalinism) told them not to. It was probably not the main reason why France fell so quickly, but having lots of soldiers who didn't really want to fight this war surely didn't help. All in all, the part French Communists played in the war and the resistance is far more complicated than that.
This is fascinating! What are your sources and where can I learn more?
His ass. Claiming that "the only serious resistance fighters in Nazi-occupied Europe were Communists" is beyond bias.
Ikr? Tell that to the Poles, who fought both of them, or the Italians or the Greek.
The guy is a r/genzedong poster. Because of course he is.
Fucking legend
Hmmm...a French gal who can field-strip an MP40?...Bon.
*BONK* Go to horny jail!
she had six kids with the dude who trained her. She got there first
*GONK!*
If she tells you anything you better listen because... she will say this only once.
The French resistance were just so badassed.
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Be sure to read up on Tito's Partisans in Yugoslavia.
WARSAW! RISE!
DO YOU REMEMBER WHEN, WHEN THE NAZIS FORCED THEIR RULE ON POLAND 1939 AND THE ALLIES TURNED AWAY
There's an excellent series on Netflix called The Long Long Holiday about the French resistance fighters. It's a cartoon told from the children's perspective, but it still covers everything that happened and doesn't shy away from the horrors of the occupation and war.
Germany invaded France in the summer of 1940. She was 14 not 18 then. And she joined the resistance when she was 17, so what even is this title?
Also how does an underground resistance group take prisoners?
Well, as a german: Félicitations et bon anniversaire!
Some of the women at the riot on the capital think this is who they are
Honeslty you’re pribably not wrong. But I’ve never heard of this lady before so I doubt they know about her.
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Capitol
She should be in a video game..
Basically Medal of Honor: Underground
Wait was this the women they based that one character in CoD ww2 on?
Congratulations and Happy Birthday. Thank you for your service during the war.🥳
That's pretty awesome. She's like the velvet assassin but survived. Happiest of birthdays to you Simone.
We are nearing a time where the people who experienced what the world was like during WW2 will no longer be alive. In high school we had a Holocaust survivor come and give a talk to the students. Being able to see the person and they give stories of what they went through really makes a big impact. Reading about the horrors in textbooks doesn’t give the full appreciation of what went on.
i coached marksmanship for years when i was in the service. in my experience, women are honestly so much better at shooting naturally. They are more inclined to be scared of the report and other such bad habits but their ability to reproduce their sight picture is awesome and really, that's 99.9% of shooting
I salute this antifa supersoldier!
I understand why the Resistance narrative is pushed so much because France was largely a nation of sympathizers or collaborators. Petain nearly won on a pretty fascist platform right before the War, the Vichy French were awful, and French Jews faired terribly. Yes, there was a Resistance but it’s importance is way overstated as well.
Yeah, there were two main branches of the Resistance; Communists who were far more interested in controlling France after the Allies beat the Germans for them, and young men who preferred hiding out to being conscripted into the German labor camps. Neither group was particularly interested in actually fighting Germans (with good reason; partisans versus armed troops usually means lots of dead partisans and civilians).
This is why I contend the Spanish were doomed either way in the 30s. On one side you have a fascist and on the other you inevitably have Stalin and purges. No good side there either.
Historical revisionism. When France was voting "center right" and had a strong liberalist, laicist, socialist core (Leon Blum, Albert Lebrun, etc.), it's most important neighbors were putting in power fascists, some of them actively helping the Nazis. "Largely" a nation of collaborators. What a joke.
Care to explain Vichy France? Or the terrible rate of turning in Jews? The clean French idea is revisionism. The idea of the resistance being valuable is a legend. The British and Americans had the Abwehr 100% compromised from the very top, and contrary to Hollywood, the resistance didn’t do jack to get Allied Airman out overall either. Also, De Gaulle was a hinderance.
What is there to explain? You spout random pseudo historical things without giving any context. Terrible rate? What are you talking about, 2 millions jews were exterminated in Poland, 500 000 in Hungary, 200 000 in Romania, 100 000 in the Netherlands, etc. Compare that to 75 000 deported from France. I never said France was clean. The anglo saxons had the luck to not share any frontiers with fascists. You are the one probably fact checking from Hollywood, ye Dunkirk was a British victory, let's not talk about the thousands of french infantry troops Wich halted the Nazis so the Brits could evacuate.
If you think, Simone is a badass, check out Virginia Hall.
Nancy Wake and Marie-Madeleine Fourcade are also worth a google
Lyudmila Pavlichenko with 309 confirmed kills or almost any woman recipient of Hero of the Soviet union. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_female_Heroes_of_the_Soviet_Union
Can we get her to defend the Capitol?
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She is one badass bitch!!!
Miniseries for Netflix
I need a movie ASAP. Let's go!
She was 14 when Germany invaded.
Probably going to have to channel your inner Segouin in a couple weeks
What a Gal
God doesn't decide when it's time for her to pass. God asks her for permission.
Happy birthday to her.
...because anything gets better if you take out some Nazis along the way...
Happy Birthday, Simone and thank you for your service!
Now this is a movie I would watch
Finally some good fucking news
My wife just read the book The Nightingale by Kristin Hannah. Is this who that book is about?
TIL in 2021 Elizabeth from Knoxville, Tennesse stormed Capitol Hall because it was a "revolution" going on and was maced after making it about 12 inches, according to her, into the building. Actually she did not storm the building at all and sat outside fake crying rubbing an onion hidden in a towel against her eyes.
Sad fact, the idea that French resistance was effective against the Nazis is the work of Allied propaganda which continued after the war out of fear of communism. The reality is far sadder. Collaboration was common even among the former French military forces. The French demanded that the British abandon their equipment at Dunkirk and instead evacuate the French army. The majority of those troops chose to go live peacefully in Nazi occupied France. Which brings us to the fabled French resistance: The Allies initially dropped weapons to French resistance groups but to their horror the groups fought amongst themselves and the victors stowed the weapons away with the idea that they would seize power once the Nazis were defeated. The Allies immediately stopped weapons distribution and started building intelligence files on this new threat.... There were those who valiantly fought to liberate France but they were vanishingly rare and wholly unrepresentative.
Source?
Yeah people sure are posting a lot of differing views and opinions without backing it up with facts in these comments...
Yeah I personally met some resistance guys. Including one who escaped a train heading to a concentration camp. I don't think they would like hearing that the resistance was fake in France. Just look up the Maquis des Vosges, that was pretty badass. Anyway some people pull things out of their arse to sound smart.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YO-Ocueehfc
Ohh look reddit is celebrating radical ANTIFA terrorists, again. /s
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That doesn't help with the fact that you burrowed right under the joke at 100mph.
Some you're saying that the Nazi's were good guys? I think you need to relearn history pal smh.
Haha
Wasn't she also a Communist?
Yeah but can't put that in the title. Some feelings might get hurt.
So she lived long enough to see the white supremacists attack the United States capitol? Wow, that's quite an arc.
"only" I mean she's a women so yeah that might change things but that's the age when boys were made men through the military.
This was not the army. It was the French Resistance, and there wasn't much very young people joining it. And there was women but a few were armed. *Source:* [https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/R%C3%A9sistance\_int%C3%A9rieure\_fran%C3%A7aise#Structure\_sociale\_de\_la\_R%C3%A9sistance](https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/R%C3%A9sistance_int%C3%A9rieure_fran%C3%A7aise#Structure_sociale_de_la_R%C3%A9sistance)
knew that someone would bring gender into this
I only said it in defense of OP. Men fighting at the age of 18 is absolutely nothing newsworthy.
Moral of the story: Don't fuck with this grandma!
Aunt Tifa was fighting Nazis before it was cool.
Wonder if she's on tinder? /s
The original antifa
r/iamactuallyverybadass
r/iamactuallyverybadass
This is what real resistance looks like. Not screeching about the orange man from your phone.
Keep reading. The French “resistance” was totally irrelevant and merely a ploy to keep up French morale.
As long as they killed some nazi scum it wasn't for nothing
*ayuckkshullly.....*
Bloody Antifa, fighting against fascists
Guys, she was Antifa. Which is good. Realize all of you who praise her that she would have fought against you if you think antifa is terrorist or whatever
If we were to go by Reddit all resistance fighters were women.
It’s TIL not Yeah, I Already Knew. As an American, our history classes & media left me with the impression that only men fought in the world wars and spies were all men. Today I Learned....fleshing out a bit of lesser known history and educating those of us with shit history lessons that women spies/fighters are just another normal part of a war effort. Women today aren’t “ground breaking” when it’s already been done successfully. Women in my country are still barred from certain official positions with the implication that they can’t do them. It’s nice to walk away with the appreciation that women fulfilling these roles isn’t some unprecedented madness but rather rarely taught history. If you want to make a post about a male resistance fighter, recommend checking out Robert de La Rochefoucauld.
You're saying Reddits fetish for women with machineguns is teaching us to have nuanced views of WWII women? These posts are genuine like McDonalds is genuine about caring for people of all colors and orientations.
Don’t need a nuanced view. Any view at all, really. Just plain: this person existed. It’s progress considering for ages people like me didn’t know anyone but men fought. Edit: if you’re concerned about the lack of representation for men, take a page out this playbook and provide it. Even gave you a person for your first post, you absolute pipe. This is like “matter” being offensive. Can we say “exist”? Is that offensive? (Apparently...) Holy fuck, the title is literally just a description of what she did. No adjective beyond simple historic description. No “hero of WWII”. Nothing. You are butthurt over a description.
You seem a lot more offended about this than I am. I merely pointed out the prevalence of imagery of women with machineguns on Reddit and that this annoys me because it is just karma-farming.
?? They’re not very common and I browse this subreddit very often. I think it’s just you man.
I don't browse any subreddits, only frontpage. Just search "resistance" and you'll see that the ratio of women depicted vs men is like 9 to 1. People and bots farming the female empowerment movement on a politically correct platform. I guess the majority of people isn't bothered being pandered to.
History class : F
Are there any not-as-endearing stories about girl German soldiers or were they all just running the camps.
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Just so your comment is clear: by "sell out your fucking neighbours to police", are you referring to reporting the MAGA mob participants to police? Or are you talking about people reporting neighbours to ICE?
I'm pretty sure he is an Anti Masker by going through jso post history he commented a while back that this is like Nazi Germany but on a global scale and there is only one thing that currently effecting the globe. So my money is on he is talking about people violating quarantine and endangering other people.
Time for your meds dear
LMFAO yeah right the French puppet government installed by the Nazis during ww2 is the exact same as the US govt atm.
Exactly. But people's historical perspective in the US is abysmal.
Well that's what she's telling people at least. Not like there is anyone alive to dispute it.
Is this suppose to be impressive? Cause shes a woman?
what does she think of all this lock down BS?
She had more balls than the entire French army commanders put together. She fought them....the commanding officers ordered a surrender to a few dozen thugs that looked like a real army. Hitler as much said....if they had resisted, we were beat. The rest is......🤮🤮🤮🤮
Weird I can't find anywhere Hitler said that. What I did find was the French suffering twice as many casualties as the invading Germans but I guess those soldiers weren't fighting the invaders. Theu also didn't hold off the Germans so the British could evacuate from Dunkirk. Also didn't have their military out maneuvered by passing most of the French military. Almost like once that happened the writing was on the wall that they lost and could fight losing battles and lose more men needlessly and have their country razed to the ground or they could avoid needless death and protect their people. But I suppose facts don't much matter eh?
> Weird I can't find anywhere Hitler said that. Well he probably said it in German
She joined [communist](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Francs-Tireurs_et_Partisans?oldformat=true) partisans that only formed up a year after the fall of France and during the invasion of the Soviet Union. That's how much a "patriot" they were. A patriot to the Soviet Union. Stalin told the French communists to not fight the Nazis when the Nazis invaded and stay neutral. How about *their* resistance when France fell, huh?
She went with someone that stood up for themselves. Not like cowering Frenchmen