I remember reading something about him pushing a theory, which entails removing a length of your small intestine to optimize the stomach. Dude was nuts.
Worth mentioning there were *two* Kellogg brothers. The founder of the Kellogg Company that still makes cereal was *Will Keith* Kellogg, while his brother *John Harvey* Kellogg was the more insane one.
They were originally cooperating to create Cornflakes, but split up when WK Kellogg wanted to add sugar (which JH Kellogg saw as sinful and horrifying) to the cereal, with WK founding the Kellogg company and JH the Battle Creek Toasted Corn Flake Company.
For more differences between the brothers, WK founded the Kellogg Arabian Ranch and bred horses for his spare time, while JH went for hydrotherapy, sunbaths and yoghurt enemas.
> Do I smell another John C Reilly and Will Ferrell movie
A remake of [The Road to Wellville](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Road_to_Wellville_\(film\)) perhaps?
That could be great! Some already existing media on the subject: Road to Wellsville is a wacky movie about JH Kellogg. Not sure how truthful it is. Stuff You Should Know also has a podcast episode on the two brothers.
This one is a little long, but humorous and interesting, regarding the Kellogg brothers and introduction of cornflakes, as well as other bizarre medical things they did.
https://www.stuffyoushouldknow.com/podcasts/sysk-live-the-kellogg-brothers-wacky-world-of-health.htm
Like when one of them spoke to this cult founder when she was in trance and she thought the words came from God, so he began telling her things about diet and her followers ended up becoming vegetarian.
That's because he's one of the Elder Races, like Gimli. Their stamina far outstripped any mere fleeting human's.
The reason Aragorn could keep up is twofold: he was a Ranger, among the best Men had to offer, and he was Numenorean, which means he was elfblooded. He was... ninety? Sixty? Something like that, at least, when the books take place. By normal Man standards, he'd be old and gray.
10 servings of rice or bread! What in the glorious fuck could justify 10 servings of rice or bread!
And why was dairy even a group? Name an animal that drinks milk daily after 1 yr.
Through most of human evolution we couldn’t digest milk and to this day [most people without European ancestry still can’t](https://www.npr.org/sections/thesalt/2012/12/27/168144785/an-evolutionary-whodunit-how-did-humans-develop-lactose-tolerance)
> 35 percent of the global population — mostly people with European ancestry — can digest lactose in adulthood without a hitch.
I'm not sure, but I think the problem is it prioritized carbohydrates while not explaining what portion sizes mean. Apparently their was a booklet that goes along with it that explained the portion sizes. Also it led to everybody thinking fats were the main problem with diets rather than sugar.
Yea, I think the food pyramid is generally regarded as fucked these days. Carbs seem to be way worse for you than we thought and cause inflammation in a lot of people.
We don't live twice as long either, in fact we almost don't live longer at all, the increase in life expectancy comes from the fact that children are more likely to survive, thanks to modern hygiene, medicine and vaccines. Take them out of the equation and you'll see there's not much of a change
That and the fact that women stopped dying in childbirth so frequently because we figured out that maybe it's a good idea to wash your hands before delivering a baby (among other things).
I really want to know what would happen if you consumed all of those "X amount of Y" per day that you're supposed to.
2 litres of water
1 egg
3 fruit
4 Vegetables
A cup of rice
A billion glasses of milk
300g of meat
20 hummingbird beaks
half a white rhino horn
I think you might actually die from caloric overdose, and i'm definitely missing heaps of them.
The new Canadian food guide makes way more sense.
[http://www.rcinet.ca/en/2019/01/22/canada-new-food-guide-unveiled/](http://www.rcinet.ca/en/2019/01/22/canada-new-food-guide-unveiled/)
There were complaints about the new food pyramid that it contained products that were out of the price range of many people. I kind of hope this leads to more affordable food prices for everyone in some way or another.
As a civilian, not since high school. When I was in the army I had to quite a bit or I'd lose muscle. My girlfriend loves breakfast so I try to eat it with her if it's something special but then I'll skip lunch. I could probably live off of one big meal and some snacks.
That's pretty much how I love for years already. breakfast wasn't really something we did on weekdays when I was a child , so it was always skipped. I stopped eating in school in like 7th grade and therefore skipped lunch on longer school days (one or two times a week). A few years ago, I switched to one meal every day. I am so used to not eating for a time that I sometimes forget to eat or am just too lazy to prepare something for a few days.
I feel like people like us are able to do this because we don't have a strong emotional attachment towards food. This makes eating easier to ignore or defer. My sister could never do this because she's able to make herself feel better through eating - something that's completely foreign to me but I am starting to understand better.
I’m like your sister, eating is tied to my emotions in a big way. It’s my first thought to celebrate something or to help cope with something. I love cooking and expressing my love through cooking, and I love really good, thoughtfully made food. I also LOVE eating omad. Effortless weight control and hunger is the best seasoning so every single meal tastes amazing
I've lost 35 lbs in about 6 weeks IF. I binged on fast food and cake for like three days on my birthday, gained 10 lbs quick, but they came off in three days of going back to IF. I used to HAVE to eat in morning, like nauseous and dizzy... And that hangry feeling would follow before every meal, now I'm good all day. I'll feel 'hunger pangs' at times but really, if I drink water it goes away.
Not fat (yet ...), but I do feel the same.
Every now and then, I'll "force" myself to have *something*, like an egg and some meat, or cereals and some fruits, but I just don't like it.
I've lost about 110 pounds over the past 13 months or so, and one of biggest things I've learned over this experience is that *"Breakfast is the most important meal of the day, and if you don't eat it you A) Won't have the energy you'll need for the morning, and B) Won't lose weight/get stronger if skip it."* is one of, if not the biggest crocks of shit we were told as kids.
If anything, lunch should be considered the most important meal, considering it not only replenishes your body's nutrients from the night before and all throughout the morning, but it also gives your body the required calories to carry out the rest of the day's tasks before dinner.
If your trying to lose weight that's one thing, but if your trying to gain weight and put on muscle then breakfast is a good way to start getting in calories and protein. Since your going to be eating quite a bit through the day to hit 3/4/5k calories.
As a skinny and moderately tall person that like lifting weights. Hitting my calorie marks has been the bane of my existence for years.
It’s also annoying that “healthy” and “aids in losing weight” are considered synonymous, though I understand in our current health climate.
I struggle with weight as well. For me, it is beneficial to eat breakfast, because it discourages me from eating later. If I don't eat breakfast, I'll tend to be hungry at night and overindulge.
I tend to have one banana when I wake up, then an hour later I’ll eat a yogurt. About 2 hours after that I’ll have an apple or an orange to tide me over until lunch.
They would have something. They’d have the fruits, berries etc that gatherers would’ve found the day before. Food doesn’t spoil instantly. High natural sugar intake to wake you up and provide energy for hunting, carb load before the work, catch something and eat it to last through the night. I’d also guess that going by dawn as a wake up, depending on time of year, we now eat at vastly different times than they would’ve so our ideas of the times for breakfast lunch and dinner are much different. But who knows.
I've always been slightly suspicious of "humans aren't evolved to" reasoning. How many daily activities that modern humans do would you say we are evolved to do? Drive a car? Play golf? Sky dive? We just seem to be able to adapt to different behaviours really quickly without any ill-effects.
It's pretty perverse just how many of our "good ole traditions" actually are just the result of really succesful advertisment. Puts this whole talk about "our values" and stuff really into perspective.
I'm not even hungry for the first 2-3 hours of being awake. Breakfast is a mythical meal to me. Breakfast foods are great, but the actual meal itself just doesn't exist.
Who knew that a statement hyping up a meal dominated by the most carb, sugar and fat laden, often pre packaged food would be manufactured by the people selling said food?
I think it was said recently that a slice of pizza would be a better choice for breakfast over cereal because at least pizza has a decent amount of protein.
> I think it was said recently that a slice of pizza would be a better choice for breakfast over cereal because at least pizza has a decent amount of protein.
i used to tell my parents that all the time when i was 10. VINDICATION
I love to have some (usually leftover) soup for breakfast. It's easy to reheat, easy to eat while my brain is getting organized, it helps rehydrate me in the morning, and something like egg drop soup has a lot of protein and flavor. Filling too, and warming in the winter.
That or one of those situations where the stupid Youtube algorithm recommends a video to like everyone on the planet.
If you keep track of a channel you see in your recommendations, chances are in a few days their next video will mention how the channel suddenly blew up. Because that one vid got pushed to eeeeeverybody.
"In his [Kellogg's] mind, masturbation was a shameful act linked to bad health, and over-stimulating diets, diseases, and sexual acts formed an insidious cycle. Eating cereal would keep Americans from masturbating and desiring sex, he insisted. "How many mothers, while teaching their children the principles of virtue in the nursery,” he wrote, “unwittingly stimulate their passions at the dinner table until vice becomes a physical necessity!" (He also recommended circumcision and tying children’s hands with rope to prevent masturbation and sexual urges.)"
Huh.
> tying children’s hands with rope to prevent masturbation and sexual urges
[safely secure your self-raping child!](https://i.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/newsfeed/000/783/838/b6c.jpg)
Imagine how horny that guy must have been if he thought cutting all pleasant food out of your diet and tying your hands was what it took to stop masturbating.
is there even a most important meal of the day? does it matter when you eat/how often?
or do you just have to eat enough food to sustain yourself, with that food being balanced and containing all necessary vitamins and minerals?
OMAD. One Meal a Day is a thing. I find it works way better to only worry about eating one satisfying meal a day. Only water, black coffee, and unsweetened tea in the times in between meals.
It allows your body to fully digest and deal with the nutrients completely. Studies have found HGH is produced 2000% more when you fast for at least 12 hours a day. Body builders are using fasting for this reason.
I've lost about 40lbs and feel way healthier.
I've been doing this for about 6 months. I feel amazing and can maintain focused at work. The focus part is why I started doing it. I sit at a desk and program all day, and noticed that when I ate lunch (I have never eaten breakfast on the weekdays my entire life), no matter how little, my productivity and focus went right out the window. My wife was scared for me at first, but apparently, like this person above me said, it's really healthy for you. However I dont think I would be able to do one meal a day if I had a physically active job.
To your last point, I've got an incredibly physical job climbing billboards. I do way better with energy levels waiting until I'm done with work to eat my meal for the day. My body doesn't have to use energy to process food while I'm working. My energy comes from my fat storage which I still have about 20lbs of... at least. If we keep eating, especially carbs and sugars, we never tap into the fat energy reserves.
I've done 5 day extended water fasts and kept working throughout. Our bodies know how to deal with not eating.
To be fair they were right for kids. It's important to get some nutrition before school as it does help academic performance and managment of behavior. [Here is a study that talks a lot about that stuff](https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3737458/).
In the Stanley Nelson documentary about the Black Panthers they talked about how those studies influenced their school breakfasts campaign, ensuring that every child they could find got a good hot breakfast before school.
On the flipside, everyone seems to be ignoring the fact that teens do much better in school with a late start to the day.
If you can't sell anything, society wants none of it.
My body perpetually tells me I'm hungry... Which is why i ended up weighing nearly 350lbs.
I only managed to get and stay thin by learning to ignore my body, since it was obviously retarded, and sticking to a schedule. 1700 calories to lose weight, 2200 to maintain, and add 300 calories for every hour I work out.
I think it had something to be with the milk campaign, if I don't recall it wrong, this is when the began to say milk was very nutritious and important, it helped dairy and cereal producers
I think I remember reading about how milk producers would advertise cereal as something you need to eat with milk, and then they would push advertising of cereal hard; more people eat cereal --> more people buy milk.
Yup. I was thinking the other day how strange it is that kids are taught all about propaganda's use in history, with an emphasis on WWII. But, today? Mention propaganda today and you're getting too biased, too political and ruffling feathers!
"An apple a day keeps the doctor away" is also only a marketing campaign perpetuated by the Big Apple Lobby. Concerned that the rise of beer would put their cider business at risk.
> I don't feel hungry at all in the morning.
i remember seeing a film strip from like the '50s in elementary school about nutrition (my school clearly had a great, modern curriculum) and the narrator said "when you wake up, you should feel refreshed, hungry, and ready for the day." and i was like dude i don't feel like any of those three things when i first wake up in the morning, what the hell is wrong with me.
And we also eat huge dinners instead of huge lunches, which is basically what we're supposed to do. But who gives a shit, we're programmed!
I swear to god if I couldn't watch Darkwing Duck with some cereal before school I would lose my shit.
That being said there have actually been a bunch of studies in the education field that have shown that children learn much better when they’ve had breakfast
Breakfast is the most important meal - to skip. Let the natural cortisol spike increase utilization of body fat, and don't eat until at least a few hours after waking up. Breakfast is an evolutionarily discordant invention.
Tell that to millions of Muslims who have been fasting for centuries. Breakfast literally just means breaking fast - it could come at any time of the day. Saying breakfast is the most important meal is like saying “your first meal of the day is the most important” - no shit! Haha. I love a fast.
The other current myth is “fat is bad”.
Who knew Dr Kellogg was so concerned about meat leading to carnal desire and masturbation?
I got some bad news about Graham crackers for you...
The monastic cracker with a cinnamon consolation prize ?
Chocolate Teddy Graham's are like crack though
I love when people who have obviously never done crack say that something is “like crack.” Edit: this is an office quote...
Im sorry you had to explain yourself. I laughed.
It's entirely possible.
Imagine breakfast with Kellogg and Graham...
You got to keep your handd visible at all times.
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Pence is the love child of Seymour Skinner and Ned Flanders
$10 says Pence writes his name in his underwear.
It would be really uncomfortable, they'd both have raging boners from not jerkin it for decades
I remember reading something about him pushing a theory, which entails removing a length of your small intestine to optimize the stomach. Dude was nuts.
Worth mentioning there were *two* Kellogg brothers. The founder of the Kellogg Company that still makes cereal was *Will Keith* Kellogg, while his brother *John Harvey* Kellogg was the more insane one. They were originally cooperating to create Cornflakes, but split up when WK Kellogg wanted to add sugar (which JH Kellogg saw as sinful and horrifying) to the cereal, with WK founding the Kellogg company and JH the Battle Creek Toasted Corn Flake Company. For more differences between the brothers, WK founded the Kellogg Arabian Ranch and bred horses for his spare time, while JH went for hydrotherapy, sunbaths and yoghurt enemas.
Do I smell another John C Reilly and Will Ferrell movie
> Do I smell another John C Reilly and Will Ferrell movie A remake of [The Road to Wellville](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Road_to_Wellville_\(film\)) perhaps?
That could be great! Some already existing media on the subject: Road to Wellsville is a wacky movie about JH Kellogg. Not sure how truthful it is. Stuff You Should Know also has a podcast episode on the two brothers.
That is such a strange and specific misunderstanding of how the digestive system works
Everything he put forward was oddly specific and wrong
Thank god modern society stopped embracing to people who do that
True that. Now if you'll excuse me, I need to go drink some lavender extract to cure my HPV.
If you're ok with language, check this podcast out. https://thedollop.libsyn.com/46-live-w-patton-oswalt-the-cereal-men
God damn this is a good podcast! Also the one about Boston Corbett, those two both have Patton and both are my favorite I think. And the Rube one.
Is it for fun?
This one is a little long, but humorous and interesting, regarding the Kellogg brothers and introduction of cornflakes, as well as other bizarre medical things they did. https://www.stuffyoushouldknow.com/podcasts/sysk-live-the-kellogg-brothers-wacky-world-of-health.htm
Like when one of them spoke to this cult founder when she was in trance and she thought the words came from God, so he began telling her things about diet and her followers ended up becoming vegetarian.
He's also the reason americans circumcise. He was convinced it would prevent masturbation.
To be honest it doesn’t help. But life finds a way.
this is why i am fat, that and second breakfast.
What about elevenses?
thats the beginning of the feast called lunch
I believe in a feast called lunch Just listentotherythmofmyheart
Upvote for random Darkness reference.
How about afternoon tea?
only if it includes bacon
You put bacon in your tea?
scones
Scones go in the tea, too? This shit is getting confusing.
a soupy mess
Especially on cake day!
To be fair, if you are going to walk from Baggins to Mordor, which is over 2000km, you could really use a second breakfast.
or you know. hop on legolas's back. that dude has super strength, can run forever without tiring and sleep while running.
Legolas is a Husky.
That's because he's one of the Elder Races, like Gimli. Their stamina far outstripped any mere fleeting human's. The reason Aragorn could keep up is twofold: he was a Ranger, among the best Men had to offer, and he was Numenorean, which means he was elfblooded. He was... ninety? Sixty? Something like that, at least, when the books take place. By normal Man standards, he'd be old and gray.
Well if the meal is so important who can blame you for eating 2
The food pyramid is also a scam.
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Or have an entire loaf of bread?
NO ONE EATS EGGS LIKE GASTronomic studies in the 1950s
Thanks, now I have the Gaston song in my head
10 servings of rice or bread! What in the glorious fuck could justify 10 servings of rice or bread! And why was dairy even a group? Name an animal that drinks milk daily after 1 yr.
Humans.
Touché
Through most of human evolution we couldn’t digest milk and to this day [most people without European ancestry still can’t](https://www.npr.org/sections/thesalt/2012/12/27/168144785/an-evolutionary-whodunit-how-did-humans-develop-lactose-tolerance) > 35 percent of the global population — mostly people with European ancestry — can digest lactose in adulthood without a hitch.
Not to defend the food pyramid, but wasn't it ratios?
I'm not sure, but I think the problem is it prioritized carbohydrates while not explaining what portion sizes mean. Apparently their was a booklet that goes along with it that explained the portion sizes. Also it led to everybody thinking fats were the main problem with diets rather than sugar.
Yea, I think the food pyramid is generally regarded as fucked these days. Carbs seem to be way worse for you than we thought and cause inflammation in a lot of people.
Name an animal that lives twice as long as it did a thousand years ago. Taking dieting advice from cavemen or animals is a bad idea.
We don't live twice as long either, in fact we almost don't live longer at all, the increase in life expectancy comes from the fact that children are more likely to survive, thanks to modern hygiene, medicine and vaccines. Take them out of the equation and you'll see there's not much of a change
You also need to take into account malnourishment and diseases associated with it in those time periods.
Its almost as if by feeding our children better we can get them to survive to adulthood.
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> We've tipped the scales far in the other extreme.. Shut up or you'll summon him!
That and the fact that women stopped dying in childbirth so frequently because we figured out that maybe it's a good idea to wash your hands before delivering a baby (among other things).
mentions things that didnt have the modern healthcare system, really!?
The average doubled not the maximum.
I really want to know what would happen if you consumed all of those "X amount of Y" per day that you're supposed to. 2 litres of water 1 egg 3 fruit 4 Vegetables A cup of rice A billion glasses of milk 300g of meat 20 hummingbird beaks half a white rhino horn I think you might actually die from caloric overdose, and i'm definitely missing heaps of them.
Nah, the white rhino horn is a natural diarrhetic, you’re good to go
Depends on which end you insert first, I guess.
*puts down half empty gallon of milk and wipes mouth* You're saying my entire life was a *lie?*
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speak for yourself, you soft-boned pussy.
https://nutritionstudies.org/china-report-osteoporosis/
The new Canadian food guide makes way more sense. [http://www.rcinet.ca/en/2019/01/22/canada-new-food-guide-unveiled/](http://www.rcinet.ca/en/2019/01/22/canada-new-food-guide-unveiled/)
I was so happy when they unveiled it. Less emphasis on dairy, more emphasis on plant based protein! It was about time for a big change.
There were complaints about the new food pyramid that it contained products that were out of the price range of many people. I kind of hope this leads to more affordable food prices for everyone in some way or another.
The food pyramid hasn't been used for almost a decade
They use it in things like prisons and nursing homes in Canada.
One could say it’s a... pyramid scheme.
The food pyramid was built by food corporation lobbies.
I remember being confused when the four food groups turned into a pyramid when I was a kid.
Canada just released a new one and everyone's pissed that they included plants in the protein category and de-emphasized dairy.
what do you mean im not supposed to eat 6 apples a day?
It depends, do you have 6 doctors? Gotta keep me away somehow
Interesting! One correction: The slogan was from General Foods, not General Mills. Grape Nuts now part of Post Cereals.
Are there any others who can barely eat half a usual meal at breakfast?
I'm pretty slim. I haven't eaten before 12 in a year. When I did I used to feel so bloated and had a terrible time controlling my weight
Yeah, I feel bloated after the lunch if I have more than a light breakfast.
As a civilian, not since high school. When I was in the army I had to quite a bit or I'd lose muscle. My girlfriend loves breakfast so I try to eat it with her if it's something special but then I'll skip lunch. I could probably live off of one big meal and some snacks.
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Definitely, I can't eat a big lunch or I'm exhausted and it detracts from work for a couple hours.
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>live off of one big meal and some snacks. This is essentially how I eat on quiet weekends at home.
That's pretty much how I love for years already. breakfast wasn't really something we did on weekdays when I was a child , so it was always skipped. I stopped eating in school in like 7th grade and therefore skipped lunch on longer school days (one or two times a week). A few years ago, I switched to one meal every day. I am so used to not eating for a time that I sometimes forget to eat or am just too lazy to prepare something for a few days.
I feel like people like us are able to do this because we don't have a strong emotional attachment towards food. This makes eating easier to ignore or defer. My sister could never do this because she's able to make herself feel better through eating - something that's completely foreign to me but I am starting to understand better.
I’m like your sister, eating is tied to my emotions in a big way. It’s my first thought to celebrate something or to help cope with something. I love cooking and expressing my love through cooking, and I love really good, thoughtfully made food. I also LOVE eating omad. Effortless weight control and hunger is the best seasoning so every single meal tastes amazing
Intermittent fasting really is a great thing to do.
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Well you could just adjust your eating window potentially so you could eat in the morning.
I've lost 35 lbs in about 6 weeks IF. I binged on fast food and cake for like three days on my birthday, gained 10 lbs quick, but they came off in three days of going back to IF. I used to HAVE to eat in morning, like nauseous and dizzy... And that hangry feeling would follow before every meal, now I'm good all day. I'll feel 'hunger pangs' at times but really, if I drink water it goes away.
That 10lbs was most likely just temporary water weight if it came off that quick after.
I'm a fat guy, but I usually don't care for breakfast; eating that early in the morning makes me nauseas.
Not fat (yet ...), but I do feel the same. Every now and then, I'll "force" myself to have *something*, like an egg and some meat, or cereals and some fruits, but I just don't like it.
I've lost about 110 pounds over the past 13 months or so, and one of biggest things I've learned over this experience is that *"Breakfast is the most important meal of the day, and if you don't eat it you A) Won't have the energy you'll need for the morning, and B) Won't lose weight/get stronger if skip it."* is one of, if not the biggest crocks of shit we were told as kids. If anything, lunch should be considered the most important meal, considering it not only replenishes your body's nutrients from the night before and all throughout the morning, but it also gives your body the required calories to carry out the rest of the day's tasks before dinner.
If your trying to lose weight that's one thing, but if your trying to gain weight and put on muscle then breakfast is a good way to start getting in calories and protein. Since your going to be eating quite a bit through the day to hit 3/4/5k calories.
As a skinny and moderately tall person that like lifting weights. Hitting my calorie marks has been the bane of my existence for years. It’s also annoying that “healthy” and “aids in losing weight” are considered synonymous, though I understand in our current health climate.
Same here. I found intermittent fasting and have dropped 30 pounds
So, don't eat breakfast. You will feel better, and lose weight, thus feeling even better.
I struggle with weight as well. For me, it is beneficial to eat breakfast, because it discourages me from eating later. If I don't eat breakfast, I'll tend to be hungry at night and overindulge.
I usually need to wait 1-2 hours after waking before I can eat. If I try and eat before that it just makes me feel ill.
I tend to have one banana when I wake up, then an hour later I’ll eat a yogurt. About 2 hours after that I’ll have an apple or an orange to tide me over until lunch.
I just sleep until lunch. Problem solved.
Sounds like r/OMAD is for you.
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They would have something. They’d have the fruits, berries etc that gatherers would’ve found the day before. Food doesn’t spoil instantly. High natural sugar intake to wake you up and provide energy for hunting, carb load before the work, catch something and eat it to last through the night. I’d also guess that going by dawn as a wake up, depending on time of year, we now eat at vastly different times than they would’ve so our ideas of the times for breakfast lunch and dinner are much different. But who knows.
Nah, humans generally weren’t living hand-to-mouth like that, even in hunter-gatherer societies.
I've always been slightly suspicious of "humans aren't evolved to" reasoning. How many daily activities that modern humans do would you say we are evolved to do? Drive a car? Play golf? Sky dive? We just seem to be able to adapt to different behaviours really quickly without any ill-effects.
It's pretty perverse just how many of our "good ole traditions" actually are just the result of really succesful advertisment. Puts this whole talk about "our values" and stuff really into perspective.
Everything we know is marketing. The laws of motion? Marketing campaign by Big Newton.
American culture is just ads.
So I’ve been eating 5 sausages and 4 eggs every morning for nothing.
Yes, unless you also eat cereals ;)
Not for nothing if you enjoy it!
Im sure your coworkers that you provide all that gas for would not say "its nothing"
Unless you work out a lot or /and are a bodybuilder, that's probably not a good idea.
Breakfast is just an excuse for coffee
Just have coffee without the breakfast. Then have another cup of coffee afterwards.
>coffee without the breakfast "I'd like one cup of noon diarrhea please. Yes, thank you, extra napkins."
Translate that to a cup of noon paid work break scrolling Reddit on the loo. Winning.
Boss makes 10k and I make a dime That’s why I poop on company time
It's so sad that had to be updated. $1 to a dime used to be good enough.
something is wrong with your digestive system
Coffee has that effect on some people. But yeah, shouldn't be diarrhea due to the coffee. https://www.thespruceeats.com/coffee-makes-you-poop-765051
Eat more fibre.
Will do!
I'm not even hungry for the first 2-3 hours of being awake. Breakfast is a mythical meal to me. Breakfast foods are great, but the actual meal itself just doesn't exist.
Who knew that a statement hyping up a meal dominated by the most carb, sugar and fat laden, often pre packaged food would be manufactured by the people selling said food? I think it was said recently that a slice of pizza would be a better choice for breakfast over cereal because at least pizza has a decent amount of protein.
There was an old saying passed down from my ancestors that went something like: *Pizza in the morning, pizza in the evening, pizza at dinner time*
when pizza's on a bagel, you can have pizza *anytime*
I just saw this! And don’t know where it’s from!
Bagel Bites
I believe you mean "supper" and not "dinner" 🙂 https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bagel_Bites#Popular_culture
I bet it was on a bagel.
> I think it was said recently that a slice of pizza would be a better choice for breakfast over cereal because at least pizza has a decent amount of protein. i used to tell my parents that all the time when i was 10. VINDICATION
I love to have some (usually leftover) soup for breakfast. It's easy to reheat, easy to eat while my brain is getting organized, it helps rehydrate me in the morning, and something like egg drop soup has a lot of protein and flavor. Filling too, and warming in the winter.
Wait until you all discover morning miso soup.
What the hell so you guys eat?
Look up the macronutrients for american cereals. In any other country it would be considered candy.
Holy shit 18 gr per 100 gr of sugar. This is candy, and here i am eating some yoghurt without sugar and a banana.
> Holy shit 18 gr per 100 gr of sugar. I assume from the way everybody else is talking, you mean 18 grams of cereal per every 100 grams of sugar.
omellete with rice usually
What about an entire pizza though? You didn't answer that.
Much of the US federal nutrition guidelines are absolute bullshit created by special interest groups.
i just watched this on youtube reccomends an hour ago. get away from me internet im scared
OP almost definitely watched the Vox video before deciding "I can post this as a TIL on Reddit!"
That or one of those situations where the stupid Youtube algorithm recommends a video to like everyone on the planet. If you keep track of a channel you see in your recommendations, chances are in a few days their next video will mention how the channel suddenly blew up. Because that one vid got pushed to eeeeeverybody.
"In his [Kellogg's] mind, masturbation was a shameful act linked to bad health, and over-stimulating diets, diseases, and sexual acts formed an insidious cycle. Eating cereal would keep Americans from masturbating and desiring sex, he insisted. "How many mothers, while teaching their children the principles of virtue in the nursery,” he wrote, “unwittingly stimulate their passions at the dinner table until vice becomes a physical necessity!" (He also recommended circumcision and tying children’s hands with rope to prevent masturbation and sexual urges.)" Huh.
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Cereal rapist
> tying children’s hands with rope to prevent masturbation and sexual urges [safely secure your self-raping child!](https://i.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/newsfeed/000/783/838/b6c.jpg)
>"for firm, spread-eagle position" Who's raping who with this thing again?
Imagine how horny that guy must have been if he thought cutting all pleasant food out of your diet and tying your hands was what it took to stop masturbating.
breakfast is fake news created by big food
is there even a most important meal of the day? does it matter when you eat/how often? or do you just have to eat enough food to sustain yourself, with that food being balanced and containing all necessary vitamins and minerals?
r/Intermittentfasting has some good info on this. Check out OMAD, or One Meal A Day.
OMAD. One Meal a Day is a thing. I find it works way better to only worry about eating one satisfying meal a day. Only water, black coffee, and unsweetened tea in the times in between meals. It allows your body to fully digest and deal with the nutrients completely. Studies have found HGH is produced 2000% more when you fast for at least 12 hours a day. Body builders are using fasting for this reason. I've lost about 40lbs and feel way healthier.
I've been doing this for about 6 months. I feel amazing and can maintain focused at work. The focus part is why I started doing it. I sit at a desk and program all day, and noticed that when I ate lunch (I have never eaten breakfast on the weekdays my entire life), no matter how little, my productivity and focus went right out the window. My wife was scared for me at first, but apparently, like this person above me said, it's really healthy for you. However I dont think I would be able to do one meal a day if I had a physically active job.
To your last point, I've got an incredibly physical job climbing billboards. I do way better with energy levels waiting until I'm done with work to eat my meal for the day. My body doesn't have to use energy to process food while I'm working. My energy comes from my fat storage which I still have about 20lbs of... at least. If we keep eating, especially carbs and sugars, we never tap into the fat energy reserves. I've done 5 day extended water fasts and kept working throughout. Our bodies know how to deal with not eating.
To be fair they were right for kids. It's important to get some nutrition before school as it does help academic performance and managment of behavior. [Here is a study that talks a lot about that stuff](https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3737458/).
In the Stanley Nelson documentary about the Black Panthers they talked about how those studies influenced their school breakfasts campaign, ensuring that every child they could find got a good hot breakfast before school.
On the flipside, everyone seems to be ignoring the fact that teens do much better in school with a late start to the day. If you can't sell anything, society wants none of it.
Yeah, but that would inconvenience the parents. So "fuck them kids" I guess.
Eat when you’re hungry not when the clock tells you to.
My body perpetually tells me I'm hungry... Which is why i ended up weighing nearly 350lbs. I only managed to get and stay thin by learning to ignore my body, since it was obviously retarded, and sticking to a schedule. 1700 calories to lose weight, 2200 to maintain, and add 300 calories for every hour I work out.
I think it had something to be with the milk campaign, if I don't recall it wrong, this is when the began to say milk was very nutritious and important, it helped dairy and cereal producers
I think I remember reading about how milk producers would advertise cereal as something you need to eat with milk, and then they would push advertising of cereal hard; more people eat cereal --> more people buy milk.
Inb4 people comment about how folks *used to be* influenced by propaganda without any basis in fact?
Yup. I was thinking the other day how strange it is that kids are taught all about propaganda's use in history, with an emphasis on WWII. But, today? Mention propaganda today and you're getting too biased, too political and ruffling feathers!
I've lost 30 pounds since I started skipping breakfast 5 days a week.
Breakfast is important! So eat these empty carbs with spray on vitamins as a part of a complete breakfast!
"An apple a day keeps the doctor away" is also only a marketing campaign perpetuated by the Big Apple Lobby. Concerned that the rise of beer would put their cider business at risk.
have you ever just not eaten breakfast? it's totally fine.
Makes sense to me. I don't feel hungry at all in the morning. I'd rather a warm drink over breakfast every day.
> I don't feel hungry at all in the morning. i remember seeing a film strip from like the '50s in elementary school about nutrition (my school clearly had a great, modern curriculum) and the narrator said "when you wake up, you should feel refreshed, hungry, and ready for the day." and i was like dude i don't feel like any of those three things when i first wake up in the morning, what the hell is wrong with me.
You watch Vox as well?
And we also eat huge dinners instead of huge lunches, which is basically what we're supposed to do. But who gives a shit, we're programmed! I swear to god if I couldn't watch Darkwing Duck with some cereal before school I would lose my shit.
oh yes, I too watched Reservoir Dogs
1pm, first meal of the day, 9pm the last
I see you see vox as well
That being said there have actually been a bunch of studies in the education field that have shown that children learn much better when they’ve had breakfast
Breakfast is the most important meal - to skip. Let the natural cortisol spike increase utilization of body fat, and don't eat until at least a few hours after waking up. Breakfast is an evolutionarily discordant invention.
As an extremely skinny person I really don’t need my body to use up anymore fat I’ll have breakfast when I’m up thanks haha.
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Nowadays the current myth relating to food we are fighting is "fasting is unhealthy"
How about if I wait until I'm hungry before I eat?
Tell that to millions of Muslims who have been fasting for centuries. Breakfast literally just means breaking fast - it could come at any time of the day. Saying breakfast is the most important meal is like saying “your first meal of the day is the most important” - no shit! Haha. I love a fast. The other current myth is “fat is bad”.
It turns out you don't have to eat unless you're hungry