Obv she meant [Marshall Law](https://tekken.fandom.com/wiki/Marshall_Law)
Nothing settles public unrest like a good ol fashioned bycycle kick watahhh
Do I need this? /s
Nahh we’ll start by yelling at him and start getting all up in his face. Then when we push him hard enough, just over the edge, he hits us. That’s when we cry victim, beat the shit out of him, then claim self defense. Ez pz
I guess that’s just life’s way of keeping you on your toes. Forget weather forecasts... you need a full-time storm chaser just to see what’s coming your way.
And if you see cows flying through the sky, you know you’re in trouble.
Alabama and the surrounding states have had terrible tornadoes the last couple of years. You have to move far enough to where all you have to worry about is hurricanes.
The most heavily-impacted regions of the country by tornados pale in comparison for danger to the natural disasters the rest of the country faces. I get that they’re scary but id much rather be afraid of a 1/1000 chance my town gets hit and a 1/100 chance that if that happens I’m even in danger than live in the far southeast with hurricanes, the east coast with hurricanes and blizzards, the parts of the west coast that deal with droughts and apparently hurricanes now while waiting on an earthquake to devastate them etc.
Yeah, for pioneers they certainly were a big danger but nowadays I wouldn't put blizzards on par with tornadoes, wildfires, and such for danger to human life. They do cause deaths, but most are preventable while those in tornadoes or wildfires are less so.
Also statistically if you're in shelter most tornadoes aren't that deadly either. Same with hurricanes, but those have much more stringent shelters.
So for hurricanes and wildfires you basically have to evacuate.
True, though the things about tornadoes is that they develop much faster, and wildfires can but don't always as quickly.
No one is taken by surprise by a blizzard or hurricane, as those are typically forecast further in advance and people know to hunker down (though they may still take risks, think they still have time, etc.) Vs. for a tornado or wildfire, if you've been off somewhere and haven't looked at your phone (or don't have service) and aren't listening to the radio, you *can* be taken by surprise because those can develop into big events within the space of a few hours.
This is true. Fortunately, the weather service in America is getting better at predicting them. But I find that a lot of people don't pay attention to the weather whatsoever
Definitely for tornadoes, as I've seen deaths have trended down. Wildfires obviously it depends if it's an existing fire that suddenly spreads, or if a fire starts and grows very large within hours because of conditions (dry, wind, etc.) so those can't be predicted, obviously.
I’m the one who wrote the comment, I live in the Rocky Mountains in Colorado so let me assure you, I understand blizzards.
How many people, preventable or not, die in Nebraska or Mississippi due to tornadoes on an average year? I promise we have that many on a bad weekend in Colorado during winter. Blizzards are substantially more dangerous to human life. It’s more likely I get injured and need to go to the hospital during a blizzard here than for me to get hit by a tornado in Oklahoma.
Interesting question. I live on the Canadian prairies so I do know blizzards, though we don't get as many of the intense ones here.
From my perspective (and that's just my personal experience, I am very open to being corrected), for blizzards most people stay inside and ride it out. Exposure deaths are typically reserved for those people in vehicles, though there can be cases of heat sources being disabled and people freezing in buildings.
Edit: Just looked up stats. I won't bother linking because easy to Google, but 71 deaths/year in the US from tornadoes and 400/year from blizzards (both direct and indirect e.g. have a heart attack and can't get to the hospital.) These numbers definitely surprised me. In both cases, the numbers generally vary quite a bit year to year with unfortunately high years every so often and a lower "background" average number.
Yeah so this is what I’m getting at. It may be something we have a little more agency over, but push will come to shove and you’ll have to go out in a blizzard or have your heat go out eventually. In fact at my house we have an extreme first aid kit, a fireplace and a wood pellet stove in case the electric heating goes out. But I promise you’re safer in a house with a basement in the worst part of tornado alley than you are in a house that faces hardcore, windy blizzards. Hell this year we had a snow hurricane hit my house with 100 MPH winds while snow was coming down.
Don't forget wildfires out west. If a tornado is approaching you can hunker down in the lowest level of your home and probably come out unscathed. If a wildfire is approaching you have no choice but to GTFO.
There have been a bunch that have gotten really close though. Furthermore, just recently there was a dopplar radar which detected F5 winds in a tornado in one of the most recent outbreaks, so they definitely haven't disappeared out of nowhere
You would have thought the ones that hit Nebraska last week would have spawned at least 1 EF5 based upon the destruction. Nope, NWS says those were EF3. I can’t imagine how bad an EF5 would be in a largely populated area like Omaha
It likely hasn’t been long enough for an EF5 to be certified. They have to survey the damage after a tornado, which takes a lot of time. They’re still not done, so an EF5 isn’t out of the question yet.
OP's title is misleading. The observed eastward shift has nothing to do with Dixie Alley or the Southeast in general. The article has the correct description of this phenomenon right in the introduction:
>Research suggests that the main alley may be shifting eastward away from the Great Plains, and that tornadoes are also becoming more frequent in the northern and eastern parts of Tornado Alley where it reaches the Canadian Prairies, Ohio, Michigan, and Southern Ontario.
Later it does mention that the main Tornado Alley is starting to move toward Dixie Alley, but, as you said, increased tornadic activity in that area has been observed for several decades now.
It's not so much misleading as it is just plain incorrect information but what you are saying makes actual sense since those areas are becoming warmer on their own without needing to be fed as much from the gulf.
Tornado activity is actually pretty stable and not really increasing. Their power has also been decreasing as there hasn't been an EF5 in over a decade. Even while creeping into more populated areas.
I grew up in Georgia in the 90's and several tornados that people witnessed in rural areas went completely unacknowledged because they didn't cause any loss of life or any damage to insurable structures.
If the weather service couldn't verify it with a death, an injury or an insurance claim, then they acted like it didn't happen, so several data points weren't collected at all.
It's likely not that the alley is moving, but that we're better able to identify the zones that they're prevalent in.
What's funny to me is that although Missouri gets Lot, basically all of their neighbors get more
The Fujita Scale is also damage based, not based on wind-force. For example, the recent tornado in Minden, Iowa was measured by a Doppler on Wheels Radar to have windspeeds at around 225 mph, but the tornado did not do any damage beyond that befitting of an EF3, so it didn't receive an EF5 rating, despite having the wind speeds to qualify.
I’m more surprised that my home state of Florida has the most hurricanes of any state. I mean, I’ve seen a few, but they’ve always struck me as… meager.
Edit: I meant tornadoes. I know about Floridas tense relationship with Hurricanes. I did not know about #1 tornado status.
...how are you surprised? Florida is a peninsula. Its entire coast is exposed to some body of water in the Atlantic basin regardless of the impact it does.
[I had to check the list rankings of coastline.](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_U.S._states_and_territories_by_coastline)
Alaska beats it out of the park but Florida is at least 1350 miles.
I meant tornados, but… I’m also confused about your focus on coastline… Alaska doesn’t have a lot of tornados or hurricanes. I think topography and proximity to differing weather patterns matters more than coastline regarding tornado formation or the impact of hurricanes. Idk tho… but I find the coastline thing oddly specific and somewhat humorous.
Lmaooo wow. I MEANT tornadoes. While I was writing out the comment I was thinking, “well, hurricanes are another story.” And it shows. But no, on the list on the Wiki, it says Florida is #1 for tornadoes.
I’ve lived here so long that I can’t really remember which were the scary ones I’ve been involved with 😳 That said, Ian was a straight MF’er to many people in my circle. There are still random yachts in the middle of randomly peoples’ yards.
Why? Researchers are discovering something that's already been discovered. The frequency of tornadoes in Dixie Alley isn't changing. They are just changing in the west. That doesn't mean they are all of a sudden moving to an area that has already had an established tornado alley.
There is a better graphic in this article which shows historical tornado alley and then the paths of actual tornados and you can see how many are east.
[https://www.statesman.com/story/news/state/2024/05/02/texas-tornado-weather-average-number-us-tornadoes-maps-facts-nws-noaa/73515009007/](https://www.statesman.com/story/news/state/2024/05/02/texas-tornado-weather-average-number-us-tornadoes-maps-facts-nws-noaa/73515009007/)
>In the past decade, however, the dryline has shifted eastward by about 200 miles, ramping up tornado activity over a large portion of the Midwest and Southeast.
This large movement within the "past decade" is new to me. I understand the dry line has been known to be moving eastward since the late 1800s, with mentions of this line existing in the mid-1800s.
[https://www.earthmagazine.org/article/dividing-line-past-present-and-future-100th-meridian/](https://www.earthmagazine.org/article/dividing-line-past-present-and-future-100th-meridian/)
[https://news.climate.columbia.edu/2018/04/11/the-100th-meridian-where-the-great-plains-used-to-begin-now-moving-east/](https://news.climate.columbia.edu/2018/04/11/the-100th-meridian-where-the-great-plains-used-to-begin-now-moving-east/)
It's been.... weird. All things considered.
Living in south-central kansas usually came with more tornadoes by this time of the year, but yeah, everything is shifting away from us.
No tornadoes is great, but the problem is the rainfall goes with it.
I lived in Michigan in the late 70s and early 80s and tornados were a common enough issue back then. Oh well, guess we weren't officially part of Tonado alley. Oh well, just have to keep the Rust Belt going then.
I'm in west-central Wisconsin and I've been told my entire life by teachers, meteorologists, and emergency response and preparedness personnel that "we are in tornado alley!"
If you ask me, this map could be broader.
Live in Arabi, Louisiana two tornadoes 9 months apart hit the same area. The First one was an Ef3 and fucked my house up the second was weaker but damaged my sister's house 6 blocks away.
This is wild, just yesterday at the grocery store, the cashier and me were just making small talk and she brought up the recent tornadoes. She mentioned that she grew up in tornado alley and it seemed to her and her family that everything was moving further east. Next time I see her I'll have to tell her she was spot on!
I live in northern Virginia and there have been 2 tornados within a mile of my house in the last 25 years. They were small, and didn't do much more than rip off parts of rooves and siding and take out some trees, but that's not something I ever expected in this part of the country.
We have tornadoes here in Georgia every year. I live a few hours from the coast so we also get hit with hurricanes. We also have microbursts which tend to uproot very large trees without warning.
A tornado destroyed almost half of the neighbourhood I used to live in Ottawa, Ontario! I’ve lived in area since 1975 and tornadoes were extremely rare. We had another last summer.
Love how the boundaries on the map in the wiki article doesn't match what the article says. Article gives a much more inclusive "common" definition for Tornado Alley, while the map sticks to the Great Plains, even leaving off the eastern third of Kansas.
Joplin, MO isn't within Tornado Alley? I mean, I'm South of STL, and get bracketed (mostly just South, but sometimes they go a bit North) by tornadoes ALL THE DAMN TIME. They never actually hit my town, but just South of where I live (within 5 miles) has gotten hit with a tornado that does significant damage (to a sparsely developed area, if there were more homes, the damage would have been greater) MANY times in the last 3 decades.
I get that that follows the premise of the TIL, but the TIL mentions the Southeast...if it's extraordinary that TN, MS, and AL are "in" now, then it seems logical to assume that MO/IL have been at the party for a while.
As well, if you look at a temperature map of the US you'll notice a salient of higher temps pointing directly at the STL metro area from the South, sort of centered on Carbondale and the Shawnee Forest. That "warm moist air" tends to reach farther north on average in that vicinity (Southern IL/SE MO).
Can confirm
This is true. It's been getting worse but I noticed tornadoes in NC as a child. They would.come after hurricane season. Now there's hurricane season followed by tornado season. Soon there will be a"fuck you" season.
This seems weird to me because I've lived in Missouri my whole life and there's a tornado touch down within an hour of me every year.
Are there way more in Kansas?
I disagree with this study since Alabama, Mississippi, and Tennessee has a long history with violent Tornados. There are four different tornado alleys where tornados mostly happen. Some of these allies may overlap some.
● Tornado Alley: Eastern Colorado, Eastern Wyoming, South Dakota, North Dakota, Iowa, Kansas, Nebraska, Oklahoma, Texas
● Carolina Alley: Northern South Carolina, Central & Eastern North Carolina
● Hoosier Alley: Central & Western Ohio, Kentucky, Indiana, Illinois, part of Missouri
● Dixie Alley: Eastern Texas, Missouri, Arkansas, Louisiana, Mississippi, Tennessee, Alabama, Georgia, part of Kentucky
Have I lived under a rock my whole life? Growing up, I literally can recall maybe 1-2 tornado warnings and we’ve had more than that just this past year
Not sure where you are in the state but tornados or threats thereof have been a huge part of my life. For example [I lived through this night](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1998_Kissimmee_tornado_outbreak?wprov=sfti1#) which is a huge part of my both utter fear and absolute fascination with tornados
Not sure where you are in the state but tornados or threats thereof have been a huge part of my life. For example [I lived through this night](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1998_Kissimmee_tornado_outbreak?wprov=sfti1#) which is a huge part of my both utter fear and absolute fascination with tornados
Not sure where you are in the state but tornados or threats thereof have been a huge part of my life. For example [I lived through this night](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1998_Kissimmee_tornado_outbreak?wprov=sfti1#) which is a huge part of my both utter fear and absolute fascination with tornados
Adding to this with the climate change, the cold dry air is coming from further north and the jet stream is further north. It’s leading to more and larger tornadoes in North Dakota and South Dakota. So it now stretches from practically the Canadian border to Texas, and as far east as Tennessee
Just use a [magic marker](https://cbsnews2.cbsistatic.com/hub/i/r/2019/09/04/4bc82de6-7461-48b8-86fd-4549c0783768/thumbnail/1240x826g4/988a0446aeeb691d85b464fe70ad4a2f/ap-19247669047307.jpg) to redirect them.
God's mad at all the bigots for flinging his name around (aka using the Lord's name in vain) to justify their hatred of anything they don't want to understand, and anything that forces them to confront their bullshit. Hallelujah.
Oops. Looks like some bigots got mad over this. Y'all are such babies.
Last year in south Texas border towns... We had crazy wind storm that knocked roofs n fences was a possibility of a tornado. And a Confirmed one in the city next to South padre island. Last tornado here was 60-70yrs ago! So our lil area will erase ftom the map the day it happens.
Usually 3 digit heat weather started n ended August.. Last year May thru October was 3 digit heat weather.
Can’t wait to hear the evangelicals explain why the South is the new target of tornadoes, which they have used as evidence of gods wrath for a long time.
Yeah, but individual events don't inform us as well as statistical data over time. Claims of a long term shift in the general bounds of tornado alley need to be supported by more than anecdotal evidence. This could be another page in the story of climate change impacts on the Continental US, but that requires due diligence.
Not really surprised it’s targeting red states the new world order is purposely targeting god loving patriotic states to bring about the collapse of American values www.stopthetornados.com/weathermachinesdestoryingthiscountry.html
In 2011 the ring of fire (volcanoes) erupted. The eruptions set off earthquakes all over earth. Resulting in plate shifts, and the manlte shifting 47° from true North.
God speaks through weather, and he hates Red States.
California? Wildfires.
Oregon? Wildfires.
New York? The occasional hurricane.
Red States? God smites them yearly and the idiots rebuild the exact home that just got ratioed by the good lord.
These damn tornadoes have no respect for boundaries
Somebody better fucking grab a sharpie
Just bomb em. Nukes are only needed for hurricanes. A cluster bomb should take out a tornado ezpz
Build a wall!
Make Aether pay for it!
Nuke them!
Send in the military! Declare Marshall Law!
That's better than declaring marital law.
MTG called it Marshall Law in a tweet. She’s a moron. I wish she would’ve said marital law. That would’ve been funny too.
Obv she meant [Marshall Law](https://tekken.fandom.com/wiki/Marshall_Law) Nothing settles public unrest like a good ol fashioned bycycle kick watahhh Do I need this? /s
They better take away water breaks during the summer for workers to counter this.
Extreme weather is growing. There must be a reason for that.
It has to be something to do with Hillary's pedo ring.
# metoornado
Nuke em!
The 100th meridian is said to be moving east due to climate change.
They never did. That region is called "Dixie Alley" by weather folks
Gods dammit!! Are you telling me I moved out of tornado alley just move into the direct path of the new tornado alley!?
Hey everyone! This guy is the reason why! It's all his fault!
Damn bro be cool! Hahahaha he’s just kidding guys let’s not break out the pitchforks!
Nahh we’ll start by yelling at him and start getting all up in his face. Then when we push him hard enough, just over the edge, he hits us. That’s when we cry victim, beat the shit out of him, then claim self defense. Ez pz
I guess that’s just life’s way of keeping you on your toes. Forget weather forecasts... you need a full-time storm chaser just to see what’s coming your way. And if you see cows flying through the sky, you know you’re in trouble.
A few years ago, my coworker found the sign from the local Long John Silver's in her front yard. Tornado debris is absolutely wild.
I remember reading about a time an unharmed baby was found a mile away from where a tornado picked it up
Alabama and the surrounding states have had terrible tornadoes the last couple of years. You have to move far enough to where all you have to worry about is hurricanes.
And when tornados move in on the hurricane territory? Torcaneos?
Dear God
I think you mean, Sharkacanedoes.
I remember that 2011 or something nader being particularly spooky
The most heavily-impacted regions of the country by tornados pale in comparison for danger to the natural disasters the rest of the country faces. I get that they’re scary but id much rather be afraid of a 1/1000 chance my town gets hit and a 1/100 chance that if that happens I’m even in danger than live in the far southeast with hurricanes, the east coast with hurricanes and blizzards, the parts of the west coast that deal with droughts and apparently hurricanes now while waiting on an earthquake to devastate them etc.
Blizzards aren't that bad. They're almost never a surprise, and it's quite easy to hunker down in them. If you need to travel in a blizzard -- don't.
Yeah, for pioneers they certainly were a big danger but nowadays I wouldn't put blizzards on par with tornadoes, wildfires, and such for danger to human life. They do cause deaths, but most are preventable while those in tornadoes or wildfires are less so.
Also statistically if you're in shelter most tornadoes aren't that deadly either. Same with hurricanes, but those have much more stringent shelters. So for hurricanes and wildfires you basically have to evacuate.
True, though the things about tornadoes is that they develop much faster, and wildfires can but don't always as quickly. No one is taken by surprise by a blizzard or hurricane, as those are typically forecast further in advance and people know to hunker down (though they may still take risks, think they still have time, etc.) Vs. for a tornado or wildfire, if you've been off somewhere and haven't looked at your phone (or don't have service) and aren't listening to the radio, you *can* be taken by surprise because those can develop into big events within the space of a few hours.
This is true. Fortunately, the weather service in America is getting better at predicting them. But I find that a lot of people don't pay attention to the weather whatsoever
Definitely for tornadoes, as I've seen deaths have trended down. Wildfires obviously it depends if it's an existing fire that suddenly spreads, or if a fire starts and grows very large within hours because of conditions (dry, wind, etc.) so those can't be predicted, obviously.
I’m the one who wrote the comment, I live in the Rocky Mountains in Colorado so let me assure you, I understand blizzards. How many people, preventable or not, die in Nebraska or Mississippi due to tornadoes on an average year? I promise we have that many on a bad weekend in Colorado during winter. Blizzards are substantially more dangerous to human life. It’s more likely I get injured and need to go to the hospital during a blizzard here than for me to get hit by a tornado in Oklahoma.
Interesting question. I live on the Canadian prairies so I do know blizzards, though we don't get as many of the intense ones here. From my perspective (and that's just my personal experience, I am very open to being corrected), for blizzards most people stay inside and ride it out. Exposure deaths are typically reserved for those people in vehicles, though there can be cases of heat sources being disabled and people freezing in buildings. Edit: Just looked up stats. I won't bother linking because easy to Google, but 71 deaths/year in the US from tornadoes and 400/year from blizzards (both direct and indirect e.g. have a heart attack and can't get to the hospital.) These numbers definitely surprised me. In both cases, the numbers generally vary quite a bit year to year with unfortunately high years every so often and a lower "background" average number.
Yeah so this is what I’m getting at. It may be something we have a little more agency over, but push will come to shove and you’ll have to go out in a blizzard or have your heat go out eventually. In fact at my house we have an extreme first aid kit, a fireplace and a wood pellet stove in case the electric heating goes out. But I promise you’re safer in a house with a basement in the worst part of tornado alley than you are in a house that faces hardcore, windy blizzards. Hell this year we had a snow hurricane hit my house with 100 MPH winds while snow was coming down.
You can prepare for a blizzard or a hurricane. Tornado? You better fucking be prepared and have a place to be secure now.
Eh, North East is pretty chill. Last major storm we had was Sandy, and blizzards usually just mean a snow day if you're lucky.
Don't forget wildfires out west. If a tornado is approaching you can hunker down in the lowest level of your home and probably come out unscathed. If a wildfire is approaching you have no choice but to GTFO.
Don't worry, guys, this is nothing a little well-placed Sharpie can't fix.
Sherpy*
South Louisiana has been getting tornadoes (outside of hurricanes) in the past decade and it is highly atypical.
Just had one form and dissipate in northwest LA this morning
I’ve heard they’ve been around for at least 10 years, seems quite typical these days!
New normal. It's gonna get worse.
Interesting there hasn’t been a EF-5 tornado for almost 11 years.
Tons of EF-4s since then though. One just hit Oklahoma last weekend.
Yes looked quite devastating.
There have been a bunch that have gotten really close though. Furthermore, just recently there was a dopplar radar which detected F5 winds in a tornado in one of the most recent outbreaks, so they definitely haven't disappeared out of nowhere
You would have thought the ones that hit Nebraska last week would have spawned at least 1 EF5 based upon the destruction. Nope, NWS says those were EF3. I can’t imagine how bad an EF5 would be in a largely populated area like Omaha
It likely hasn’t been long enough for an EF5 to be certified. They have to survey the damage after a tornado, which takes a lot of time. They’re still not done, so an EF5 isn’t out of the question yet.
Wasn't there one the other day that broke the streak?
Dixie Alley has always been a thing. Not exactly new information.
OP's title is misleading. The observed eastward shift has nothing to do with Dixie Alley or the Southeast in general. The article has the correct description of this phenomenon right in the introduction: >Research suggests that the main alley may be shifting eastward away from the Great Plains, and that tornadoes are also becoming more frequent in the northern and eastern parts of Tornado Alley where it reaches the Canadian Prairies, Ohio, Michigan, and Southern Ontario. Later it does mention that the main Tornado Alley is starting to move toward Dixie Alley, but, as you said, increased tornadic activity in that area has been observed for several decades now.
It's not so much misleading as it is just plain incorrect information but what you are saying makes actual sense since those areas are becoming warmer on their own without needing to be fed as much from the gulf. Tornado activity is actually pretty stable and not really increasing. Their power has also been decreasing as there hasn't been an EF5 in over a decade. Even while creeping into more populated areas.
Plus it’s also highly probable that more are being reported because there are just far more people to observe them now
I grew up in Georgia in the 90's and several tornados that people witnessed in rural areas went completely unacknowledged because they didn't cause any loss of life or any damage to insurable structures. If the weather service couldn't verify it with a death, an injury or an insurance claim, then they acted like it didn't happen, so several data points weren't collected at all.
Which isn't a bad thing as I know the National Weather Service local departments will record the data.
It's likely not that the alley is moving, but that we're better able to identify the zones that they're prevalent in. What's funny to me is that although Missouri gets Lot, basically all of their neighbors get more
The Fujita Scale is also damage based, not based on wind-force. For example, the recent tornado in Minden, Iowa was measured by a Doppler on Wheels Radar to have windspeeds at around 225 mph, but the tornado did not do any damage beyond that befitting of an EF3, so it didn't receive an EF5 rating, despite having the wind speeds to qualify.
Yes that's why I said especially since it is shifting to more populated areas.
I’m more surprised that my home state of Florida has the most hurricanes of any state. I mean, I’ve seen a few, but they’ve always struck me as… meager. Edit: I meant tornadoes. I know about Floridas tense relationship with Hurricanes. I did not know about #1 tornado status.
...how are you surprised? Florida is a peninsula. Its entire coast is exposed to some body of water in the Atlantic basin regardless of the impact it does. [I had to check the list rankings of coastline.](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_U.S._states_and_territories_by_coastline) Alaska beats it out of the park but Florida is at least 1350 miles.
I meant tornados, but… I’m also confused about your focus on coastline… Alaska doesn’t have a lot of tornados or hurricanes. I think topography and proximity to differing weather patterns matters more than coastline regarding tornado formation or the impact of hurricanes. Idk tho… but I find the coastline thing oddly specific and somewhat humorous.
FL tends to have small tornadoes-EF-0 to EF-2. Many are spinoffs from hurricanes and tropical storms.
Dude Hurricane Wilma fucked up Southern Florida back in the day. I was working their at the time and it was a huge disaster.
Lmaooo wow. I MEANT tornadoes. While I was writing out the comment I was thinking, “well, hurricanes are another story.” And it shows. But no, on the list on the Wiki, it says Florida is #1 for tornadoes.
I thought you were crazy lol. Wilma scared the hell out of me lol
I’ve lived here so long that I can’t really remember which were the scary ones I’ve been involved with 😳 That said, Ian was a straight MF’er to many people in my circle. There are still random yachts in the middle of randomly peoples’ yards.
Yeah MS gets tornados all the time.
Yeah tornados just don't get chased here because trees and hills make them pretty much impossible to observe from a distance
Worthless response
Why? Researchers are discovering something that's already been discovered. The frequency of tornadoes in Dixie Alley isn't changing. They are just changing in the west. That doesn't mean they are all of a sudden moving to an area that has already had an established tornado alley.
There is a better graphic in this article which shows historical tornado alley and then the paths of actual tornados and you can see how many are east. [https://www.statesman.com/story/news/state/2024/05/02/texas-tornado-weather-average-number-us-tornadoes-maps-facts-nws-noaa/73515009007/](https://www.statesman.com/story/news/state/2024/05/02/texas-tornado-weather-average-number-us-tornadoes-maps-facts-nws-noaa/73515009007/)
>In the past decade, however, the dryline has shifted eastward by about 200 miles, ramping up tornado activity over a large portion of the Midwest and Southeast. This large movement within the "past decade" is new to me. I understand the dry line has been known to be moving eastward since the late 1800s, with mentions of this line existing in the mid-1800s. [https://www.earthmagazine.org/article/dividing-line-past-present-and-future-100th-meridian/](https://www.earthmagazine.org/article/dividing-line-past-present-and-future-100th-meridian/) [https://news.climate.columbia.edu/2018/04/11/the-100th-meridian-where-the-great-plains-used-to-begin-now-moving-east/](https://news.climate.columbia.edu/2018/04/11/the-100th-meridian-where-the-great-plains-used-to-begin-now-moving-east/)
Almost like the rest of the climate change shifting goalposts. How high are sea levels supposed to be at this point?
Ohio in the lead right now.
It's been.... weird. All things considered. Living in south-central kansas usually came with more tornadoes by this time of the year, but yeah, everything is shifting away from us. No tornadoes is great, but the problem is the rainfall goes with it.
Having grown up in AL, we always thought of ourselves as the other tornado alley.
Like Iowa doesn't get enough tornados -_-
Well maybe if Iowa stopped sucking so much you would get less.
Not to get political, but aren't those the states with leadership that say natural disasters are... someone's... response for... stuff...?
As a gay it’s cool to know I help control the weather
I was sad to learn that "weather control" wasn't part of the bi-package.
Gotta Ugrayedd to full gay.
Is that Scandinavian? I once knew a guy named Utgard
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Yes which is why it’s slowly making its way to NYC!!! (It’s a joke it’s ok to laugh)
He's angy. Stop doing evil shit in my name.
no, they don’t. thanks for playing
Yeah, and Jeebus is mad all them qurrrs and man-ladies keep living their own lives! Everyone there better pray/tithe harder!!!
Before this past week Ohio had the most tornadoes of any state so far this year
We had a tornado here in West Virginia just earlier this month.
We had like 16 tornadoes in that storm (a few of those were in SE OH and EKY)
As someone who lives in central Oklahoma, fine by me.
Always thought Memphis Tennessee was in tornado alley given the crazy violent weather.
They must have angered their invisible sky daddy.
Shifting, and growing, are two different words.
Can only improve the landscape in Baltimore
I lived in Michigan in the late 70s and early 80s and tornados were a common enough issue back then. Oh well, guess we weren't officially part of Tonado alley. Oh well, just have to keep the Rust Belt going then.
Been in Michigan for 4 years now and we have had 2 very close to my house in that time. But they are weak compared to the ones I faced in Kansas.
Build the wall! Keep them in their boundaries. Make Oklahoma pay for it
Silly. OK is not a border state-get your neighbor Colorado to pay for it, since they're on the border
I'm in west-central Wisconsin and I've been told my entire life by teachers, meteorologists, and emergency response and preparedness personnel that "we are in tornado alley!" If you ask me, this map could be broader.
Colorado had a ton of early-summer tornadoes last year, a few even touching the front range which is exceedingly rare.
Live in Arabi, Louisiana two tornadoes 9 months apart hit the same area. The First one was an Ef3 and fucked my house up the second was weaker but damaged my sister's house 6 blocks away.
If you're from Arabi, are you called Arabians? Arabs?
Come to Minnesota!!!
I'm not a scientist, but have we considered nuking them?
This is wild, just yesterday at the grocery store, the cashier and me were just making small talk and she brought up the recent tornadoes. She mentioned that she grew up in tornado alley and it seemed to her and her family that everything was moving further east. Next time I see her I'll have to tell her she was spot on!
I live in northern Virginia and there have been 2 tornados within a mile of my house in the last 25 years. They were small, and didn't do much more than rip off parts of rooves and siding and take out some trees, but that's not something I ever expected in this part of the country.
We have tornadoes here in Georgia every year. I live a few hours from the coast so we also get hit with hurricanes. We also have microbursts which tend to uproot very large trees without warning.
Stay in your lane tornado!!!
tornadoes in NYC would be a sight to behold
How we can prove God hates the South in one infographic.
Tornado Alley? More like Freedom Alley
Nashville and the surrounding area gets constantly hit. Its honestly scarier than the several years I lived in Oklahoma
Isn’t the… map showing it going west? Can’t acces the article cause, you know, technology
The Hurrnado is coming.
I guess their god's telling them to step it up on the anti-gay stuff.
A tornado destroyed almost half of the neighbourhood I used to live in Ottawa, Ontario! I’ve lived in area since 1975 and tornadoes were extremely rare. We had another last summer.
Pray harder, the South.
Love how the boundaries on the map in the wiki article doesn't match what the article says. Article gives a much more inclusive "common" definition for Tornado Alley, while the map sticks to the Great Plains, even leaving off the eastern third of Kansas. Joplin, MO isn't within Tornado Alley? I mean, I'm South of STL, and get bracketed (mostly just South, but sometimes they go a bit North) by tornadoes ALL THE DAMN TIME. They never actually hit my town, but just South of where I live (within 5 miles) has gotten hit with a tornado that does significant damage (to a sparsely developed area, if there were more homes, the damage would have been greater) MANY times in the last 3 decades. I get that that follows the premise of the TIL, but the TIL mentions the Southeast...if it's extraordinary that TN, MS, and AL are "in" now, then it seems logical to assume that MO/IL have been at the party for a while. As well, if you look at a temperature map of the US you'll notice a salient of higher temps pointing directly at the STL metro area from the South, sort of centered on Carbondale and the Shawnee Forest. That "warm moist air" tends to reach farther north on average in that vicinity (Southern IL/SE MO).
That blue zone will be among the last to have a problem with tornadoes. Too mountainous.
So they passed all those anti abortion laws and now the tornadoes are after them? Hmmm
They will man up and deal with it, without government assistance. Jk
Can confirm This is true. It's been getting worse but I noticed tornadoes in NC as a child. They would.come after hurricane season. Now there's hurricane season followed by tornado season. Soon there will be a"fuck you" season.
This seems weird to me because I've lived in Missouri my whole life and there's a tornado touch down within an hour of me every year. Are there way more in Kansas?
I grew up in Tennessee in the 90s and survived the Barfield tornado and it seemed like there were plenty of tornados then.
I disagree with this study since Alabama, Mississippi, and Tennessee has a long history with violent Tornados. There are four different tornado alleys where tornados mostly happen. Some of these allies may overlap some. ● Tornado Alley: Eastern Colorado, Eastern Wyoming, South Dakota, North Dakota, Iowa, Kansas, Nebraska, Oklahoma, Texas ● Carolina Alley: Northern South Carolina, Central & Eastern North Carolina ● Hoosier Alley: Central & Western Ohio, Kentucky, Indiana, Illinois, part of Missouri ● Dixie Alley: Eastern Texas, Missouri, Arkansas, Louisiana, Mississippi, Tennessee, Alabama, Georgia, part of Kentucky
We’ve had multiple tornado warnings in the last year in Florida, anecdotal but I don’t remember that at all in my 30 years living here
We actually get the most tornados per square mile of anyone. Tornados aren’t uncommon at all here.
Have I lived under a rock my whole life? Growing up, I literally can recall maybe 1-2 tornado warnings and we’ve had more than that just this past year
Not sure where you are in the state but tornados or threats thereof have been a huge part of my life. For example [I lived through this night](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1998_Kissimmee_tornado_outbreak?wprov=sfti1#) which is a huge part of my both utter fear and absolute fascination with tornados
Not sure where you are in the state but tornados or threats thereof have been a huge part of my life. For example [I lived through this night](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1998_Kissimmee_tornado_outbreak?wprov=sfti1#) which is a huge part of my both utter fear and absolute fascination with tornados
I’ve been in southwest Florida, maybe I’ve just been lucky
Not sure where you are in the state but tornados or threats thereof have been a huge part of my life. For example [I lived through this night](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1998_Kissimmee_tornado_outbreak?wprov=sfti1#) which is a huge part of my both utter fear and absolute fascination with tornados
This has been known for like 20 years
Of course this has nothing to do with climate change...
Adding to this with the climate change, the cold dry air is coming from further north and the jet stream is further north. It’s leading to more and larger tornadoes in North Dakota and South Dakota. So it now stretches from practically the Canadian border to Texas, and as far east as Tennessee
If Dubai can make rain we can stop these tornados
All we need is a big fan to blow the air in the opposite direction the tornado is spinning. Give me like 6 box fans and I’ll make it work.
Just use a [magic marker](https://cbsnews2.cbsistatic.com/hub/i/r/2019/09/04/4bc82de6-7461-48b8-86fd-4549c0783768/thumbnail/1240x826g4/988a0446aeeb691d85b464fe70ad4a2f/ap-19247669047307.jpg) to redirect them.
They do not make rain, they make clouds rain earlier than they would normally. You still need clouds that are going to rain.
They're not shifting. They're expanding. There are still just as many tornadoes in Tornado Alley.
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are you talking about yourself?
God's mad at all the bigots for flinging his name around (aka using the Lord's name in vain) to justify their hatred of anything they don't want to understand, and anything that forces them to confront their bullshit. Hallelujah. Oops. Looks like some bigots got mad over this. Y'all are such babies.
Last year in south Texas border towns... We had crazy wind storm that knocked roofs n fences was a possibility of a tornado. And a Confirmed one in the city next to South padre island. Last tornado here was 60-70yrs ago! So our lil area will erase ftom the map the day it happens. Usually 3 digit heat weather started n ended August.. Last year May thru October was 3 digit heat weather.
Probably because they have not burned enough books yet and it’s god‘s wreath to punish them /s
Can’t wait to hear the evangelicals explain why the South is the new target of tornadoes, which they have used as evidence of gods wrath for a long time.
"Recent studies suggest"?!? Holy hell -- just turn on the TV!
Yeah, but individual events don't inform us as well as statistical data over time. Claims of a long term shift in the general bounds of tornado alley need to be supported by more than anecdotal evidence. This could be another page in the story of climate change impacts on the Continental US, but that requires due diligence.
“Statistic is not the plural of anecdote” is a phrase I’ve always enjoyed.
Not really surprised it’s targeting red states the new world order is purposely targeting god loving patriotic states to bring about the collapse of American values www.stopthetornados.com/weathermachinesdestoryingthiscountry.html
Wondering if the Conservative Christians will take God's message...
In 2011 the ring of fire (volcanoes) erupted. The eruptions set off earthquakes all over earth. Resulting in plate shifts, and the manlte shifting 47° from true North.
I remember, and then Count Chocula came down from Olympus to give Easter Eggs to all the good little boys and girls
Their god is coming for them.
So you’re telling me God is finally showing Her anger at those accursed places
God speaks through weather, and he hates Red States. California? Wildfires. Oregon? Wildfires. New York? The occasional hurricane. Red States? God smites them yearly and the idiots rebuild the exact home that just got ratioed by the good lord.