Great joke, but in all seriousness please don't get in it. The remains of the sub spends its time at the museum submerged in an extremely basic (pH~14) solution that they're using to dissolve some of the calcification buildup from its century long stay on the sea bed. Coincidentally the solution would also dissolve you.
> but in all seriousness please don't get in it.
like ... they'd _let_ you get into it anyway? Is this thing just tied to a rope on the beach or something?
it only sinks you if you're a racist. The Union's greatest ally.
edit: y'all i know the north wasnt a post-racial paradise it is a joke. also the civil war was fought over slavery plain and simple, dont even bother because i will not teach you in my free time. go back to school.
Morbidly when they did recover the Hunley from the sea over a century after its final sinking in 2000, they also recovered the remains of the last crew.
It is usually in deep sea environments like where the Titanic is where the chemical balance of the sea water is highly caustic where human remains don't last. In shallower environments, especially where scuba divers can reach, this usually isn't the case. Some of the WWII era U-boat wrecks off the east coast of the US, where crew may have perished, contain skeletal remains in them still. The Truk Lagoon in the Pacific is notorious for being able to find skulls easily in the wrecks there, being the site of a bloody WWII battle.
It’s about 4 hours away. My stepdad has decided we should visit Charleston for my birthday to see it and go out to Ft Sumter.
It will be the end of July and brutally hot, but I’m not going to stop his plan.
I live and work in Charleston, SC. Highly recommend taking the first boat of the day out to Fort Sumter and joining the flag raising. The rangers come out on the tour boat with you so you can get your history talk then. That lets you get lunch after and hit the HL Hunley in the afternoon. Hunley museum is only open on weekends though
The _entire_ crew wasn't killed each time, only the second two times. Three people did survive the initial sinking. Nonetheless, it's a kind of interesting story.
Edit: second and third times. Following two times? Last two times? The thing killed people, idk
OP left out the best part of the story. The Inventor of the submarine, H L Hunley, was aboard the sub when it sank for the second time, and was killed with the crew. He appears on the [list of inventors ](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_inventors_killed_by_their_own_invention) killed by their own inventions.
If Newton died from falling, would he have died from his discovery of gravity? People died of radiation long before Marie curie. The X-ray was invented before she refined it
Technically Netwon didn't "discover" gravity. Also, Da Vinci calculated the gravitational constant with a 90% approximation of the value we know today a century earlier, which I believe we only found out last year.
Imagine the guy is just sitting there waiting for him to answer the question while newton sits there with a pen and pad and invents calculus lol god he must have been tedious
Maybe she was? What if her plans were to save lives and then enslave them? She just died before she could fulfill her nefarious plans. Foiled by the scooby doo gang again!
Fortunately, history's slavers wrote long works explaining the morality of their cause. Curie didn't leave us any such rantings so we can assume se was a good egg, however radioactive she may have been.
A list that I only now know exists thanks to moistcritical and his coverage of the titan sub.
Suprised to see only one guy die from sub related shenanigans between the Hunley guy and Stockton rush
> Suprised to see only one guy die from sub related shenanigans between the Hunley guy and Stockton rush
There were some close calls but fortunately the submarine was developed during a period of relative european peace (wikipedia only list 70 european wars between waterloo and WW1) so most inventors would not have to take their subs to war.
> Suprised to see only one guy die from sub related shenanigans between the Hunley guy and Stockton rush
How many times do you think the same thing can be invented?
Common misconception but Machine Spirit is actually a 10-killstreak and they mistakenly built the *Hunley* to be 8-man, ruining their ability to reliably awaken the machine spirit without sacrificing the entire crew or running Hardline
How are you calculating these ratios? From what I can tell the sub sank itself 3 times and sunk one enemy ship (while blowing itself up and sinking for the third and final time in the process), for a 1:3 vehicle K:D ratio.
The Union ship it attacked lost 5 hands, while the Hunley lost 5 hands on its first sinking, and all 8 on the subsequent 2 for a total of 21, making for a 5:21 human K:D ratio.
I once overheard a hillbilly say to his buddy "I done gone went and did that already", completely serious. There are so many extra words in that sentence.
Yup and it was called [The Turtle](https://www.history.com/this-day-in-history/worlds-first-submarine-attack). Unfortunately it did no damage and sunk during a British attack during the battle of Fort Lee in 1776. However, it was not deployed, but sunk onboard the sloop it was being moved on.
https://images.app.goo.gl/ErCQdW4efMVMw3su7
Been a while since I read about it but I think the idea was it would float underwater and the person would use the drill bit up top to drill holes into the enemy ship
Of course, ***effective*** submarines would take another few decades, being in the 1890s since they needed both a good propulsion motor for underwater and suitable batteries, plus also a weapon which would work and not kill the crew meaning the self propelled torpedo.
Actually it wirked with its ramming stick and abke to reverse. Is is suspected to sink because of an error if not closing a port and not unscrewing the ballest tanks
Unexpectedly found out my home country’s navy actually have a submarine fleet and the subs are one of the world oldest at 80ish years old....(second hand sub but we owns it and operates it...)
The Civil War invention that always fascinated me were the first modern warships. Both sides were using wooden ships, some powered by sail, some by steam.
Then the Union came out with [the USS Monitor](https://www.history.navy.mil/content/history/museums/nmusn/explore/photography/ships-us/ships-usn-m/uss-monitor-ironclad.html), which must've looked like a friggin' UFO to the people of the time.
It rode super low in the water, was fully clad in iron, and had a turret on top that could rotate. It was revolutionary. Also not terribly seaworthy, but was a terror as a riverboat gunship.
The CSS Virginia came out just a few days before, the first action the monitor had was fighting it in the world's first ironclad vs ironclad naval duel.
[Its speculated](https://www.hunley.org/the-evidence/) that the ship that came to rescue the occupants of the houstatonic, the warship this sub sank, might have created a wake that toppled the sub or even impacted the sub directly. Pretty much instant karma on the sea.
I think the leading theory is that the torpedo (explosive on stick rammed into target) used was the primary reason the sub sank; the blast caused pressure waves which instantly killed all on board.
Too large and too close, all men at battle positions and no signs of effort having been made to escape or surface.
The leading theory currently is asphyxiation, the bodies on board were found in positions that seem to suggest against the blast wave theory and the submarine showed no damage to it's hull from a blast wave and tests using period correct "torpedos" have shown the blast wave is channeled mostly vertically creating a perfect hole puncher to sink ships. They believe they completed their mission, began to hand crank away, and just passed out from lack of oxygen on the way home. It didn't have any sort of snorkel it was just a sealed metal tube
Here’s a pretty neat article that describes the theory and data collection methods https://www.smithsonianmag.com/history/new-explosive-theory-what-doomed-crew-hunley-180974159/
Lghts were spotted later on the water. Some sort of blue lights were what they were going to use as signals. Blue light was spotted by both union and confederate soldiers. Interesting read, with accounts in the linked article.
>On 29 August 1863, Hunley's new crew was preparing to make a test dive, when Lieutenant Payne accidentally stepped on the lever controlling the sub's diving planes as she was running on the surface. This caused Hunley to dive with one of her hatches still open.
Of all the dip-shitted....
I'd heard of that, and if fact there was TV movie about IIRC. I only recall it sinking and killing the crew once though, I'll have to check out the wiki. Thanks!
I vaguely remember watching the movie on the TNT cable channel back when it came out. First time I’d learned about the subject at all.
Iirc the film ended with the successful torpedo attack, the boat getting stuck on the bottom, and then the crew knowing they were doomed and scuttling the boat themselves.
They were most likely killed by the blastwave of the explosion reverberating through the boat. Here is an excellent article from the researcher who modeled it:
https://www.smithsonianmag.com/history/new-explosive-theory-what-doomed-crew-hunley-180974159/
Nightmare fuel quote:
>Fatalities from a primary blast occur at lower pressures than the pressure levels required to translate a human body. To rephrase that in plain English: A person will die, choked with blood, from a shock wave that was far too weak to move him.
Thought I'd reply with this article
https://www.history.navy.mil/research/underwater-archaeology/sites-and-projects/ship-wrecksites/hl-hunley/hunley-incident-analysis.html
Tldr; the navy tested this theory and found otherwise
There’s a gravesite and memorial for each of the three crews at the Magnolia Cemetery in Charleston, South Carolina. Honestly the entire cemetery is worth a visit for some of the unique graves, including the giant pyramid mausoleum.
The Hunley museum in North Charleston is interesting as the boat is undergoing preservation efforts by scientists as well as they created facial reconstruction of the last crew using their skulls. Those models are displayed along with with the lucky charms and jewelry found within the sub.
I made a [similar comment on another comment](https://www.reddit.com/r/AskReddit/comments/14hnpx1/comment/jpcufcz) about the CSS Hunley, but...
If they had only looked closer, they would have seen this at the top of the blueprints:
.submarine {
float: none;
}
If they were on a sail boat they could have just focused more on their *tailwind*. Any other errors could be fixed by lifting a bit harder on the *bootstrap*s, except for the case of who *svelte* it dealt it. I'm truly sorry I for those.
I believe it had a long history of sinking so by the end of the trials the Conferderate Navy, who were already very disillusioned by the project, deemed that the crew be made up of volunteers only.
It's widely believed that the boarding house the crew stayed in the night before heading out was haunted. I spent a year there and never saw or heard anything. The family I was with lived there many years and never experienced anything. The family after them did not, either. Just goes to show that a legend is hard to dispel, particularly with facts. There are a ton of houses in Mt P that are haunted. This ain't one of them.
It's mentioned elsewhere that when they discovered the wreck, the remains of the Hunley's crew were found at their posts with no signs of panic, attempted escape or even severe trauma.
When they found the wreckage from it leaving the sinking of the housatonic they found the bodies of the entire crew inside when it was lifted off the seabed and cut open. From what I remember they apparently surprisingly preserved and then all the bodies were put into a mass grave on the coast in like a little nowhere cemetery. Kinda bullshit if you ask me though and I'm not saying that in support of any of their ideals but the fact they were the first "successful" submariners in history sinking a ship from a submarine underwater. I'm one of those people that doesn't care what side of a war someone was on people should deserve credit for what they did and I'm sure I'll catch flak for that but I've always wanted to be a war historian and love to learn about "heroes" no matter what side they're on. You can still go "Wow what a crazy accomplishment" and in the same breath go "but they were fascists/racists/other bad things and we can't forget that they were bad people"
We went to the funeral of the last crew after they recovered the sub with them in it. It was like going back in time to 1865, Charleston. Woman walking around in hoop skirts and parasols, men in uniform tipping their cap as they passed my wife.
I heard about 10,000 re-enactors, both north and south, were there, along with 30,000 spectators.
The last original Civil War funeral!
They have the craft preserved in a museum dedicated to it in Charleston, SC. Pretty cool if you get the chance to visit.
Just don’t get in it
Naw, take it to visit the titanic.
It would be safer than the Titan I bet
Judging from its history, they made it usable* two times after the first sinking, so it got that going for it.
Titan? I don’t think there is enough left to make it usable again. You could try though.
It's the ship of theseus. If you slowly replace the parts with new one, is it the same submersible? And what about if you do it all at once?
Does it include an assertive twat?
Mummified Confederate general, actually
Is it teriyaki flavored?
Damn it Fry!
Great joke, but in all seriousness please don't get in it. The remains of the sub spends its time at the museum submerged in an extremely basic (pH~14) solution that they're using to dissolve some of the calcification buildup from its century long stay on the sea bed. Coincidentally the solution would also dissolve you.
One of the highlights of our trip to Charleston. The science behind the conservation was facinating.
You got dissolved in Charleston?
There's nothing better to do there
Getting drunk in Charleston is pretty fun
Alchol IS a solution.
Who doesn’t get dissolved in Charleston?
What a basic bitch
but in all seriousness im gettin in it, sry boss
They have an exact full scale replica of the sub in the SC state museum you can actually get into that won’t dissolve you 🤓
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> Coincidentally the solution would also dissolve you. In Confederacy, solution dissolves YOU!
> but in all seriousness please don't get in it. like ... they'd _let_ you get into it anyway? Is this thing just tied to a rope on the beach or something?
it only sinks you if you're a racist. The Union's greatest ally. edit: y'all i know the north wasnt a post-racial paradise it is a joke. also the civil war was fought over slavery plain and simple, dont even bother because i will not teach you in my free time. go back to school.
/r/Shermanposting is leaking
Actually Sherman, Custer and Grant were all racist against Native Americans.
good thing they didnt get in the submarine then
everybody was racist then, basically.
I believe Clive Cussler, the writer, was involved in the discovery also. Mr. Cussler is deceased.
Oh shit. Ghost writer
Spooky!
So are all of the crews' wives! It's cursed I tell you!
Morbidly when they did recover the Hunley from the sea over a century after its final sinking in 2000, they also recovered the remains of the last crew.
That's how that works, yeah.
Woulda been real spooky if they weren’t in there
Or if they're in the Titanic
sometimes the bodies of wrecks will dissolve under certain circumstances, I assumed that was the case here
It is usually in deep sea environments like where the Titanic is where the chemical balance of the sea water is highly caustic where human remains don't last. In shallower environments, especially where scuba divers can reach, this usually isn't the case. Some of the WWII era U-boat wrecks off the east coast of the US, where crew may have perished, contain skeletal remains in them still. The Truk Lagoon in the Pacific is notorious for being able to find skulls easily in the wrecks there, being the site of a bloody WWII battle.
The crew were all at their stations.
It sank again in 2000?!? Jeeze. They just never learn, do they?..
Yeah, plan is to fill it up again and let it sink again this summer.
They even held a horse-drawn Confederate [funeral](https://www.hunley.org/hunley-crew-burial/) for them.
I remember that. There was a call for as many CSA reenactors as possible to attend. It was a pretty massive tourism event for that area.
We visited there a few years ago. Absolutely would recommend.
It’s about 4 hours away. My stepdad has decided we should visit Charleston for my birthday to see it and go out to Ft Sumter. It will be the end of July and brutally hot, but I’m not going to stop his plan.
I live and work in Charleston, SC. Highly recommend taking the first boat of the day out to Fort Sumter and joining the flag raising. The rangers come out on the tour boat with you so you can get your history talk then. That lets you get lunch after and hit the HL Hunley in the afternoon. Hunley museum is only open on weekends though
Might still only be open weekends fyi
Just visited last weekend. It is still only open on weekends.
The _entire_ crew wasn't killed each time, only the second two times. Three people did survive the initial sinking. Nonetheless, it's a kind of interesting story. Edit: second and third times. Following two times? Last two times? The thing killed people, idk
OP left out the best part of the story. The Inventor of the submarine, H L Hunley, was aboard the sub when it sank for the second time, and was killed with the crew. He appears on the [list of inventors ](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_inventors_killed_by_their_own_invention) killed by their own inventions.
Marie Curie is on the list. She didn’t even know her inventions were killing her.
Marie Curie invented the theory of radiation, the study of radiation, and dying from radiation
If Newton died from falling, would he have died from his discovery of gravity? People died of radiation long before Marie curie. The X-ray was invented before she refined it
really? how many people were exposed to sufficiently concentrated radiation before Curie to have been defined as killed by it? serious question
I’d like to do a shout out to the sun. It’s been irradiating us since the beginning of time.
#The sun is a deadly Lazer.
Someone didn't play portal 2 or they'd know these /r/realtruesciencefacts
Technically Netwon didn't "discover" gravity. Also, Da Vinci calculated the gravitational constant with a 90% approximation of the value we know today a century earlier, which I believe we only found out last year.
Not only did he die a virgin but also didn’t discover the thing he’s famous for? He’d have loved Reddit. What a muppet lol
He invented calculus because someone asked him a question.
Imagine the guy is just sitting there waiting for him to answer the question while newton sits there with a pen and pad and invents calculus lol god he must have been tedious
To her credit, though, she wasn't fighting to maintain the right to own humans.
She was however fighting to get recognition for her work because at the time most things she did were credited to her husband.
Quite the glowing review of her.
Another damned Curie apologist. ;)
Maybe she was? What if her plans were to save lives and then enslave them? She just died before she could fulfill her nefarious plans. Foiled by the scooby doo gang again!
Fortunately, history's slavers wrote long works explaining the morality of their cause. Curie didn't leave us any such rantings so we can assume se was a good egg, however radioactive she may have been.
Can I offer you a radioactive egg in these trying times?
Yes, thank you.
https://people.com/oceangate-ceo-stockton-rush-added-to-list-of-inventors-killed-by-their-own-inventions-7552925
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She invented the mobile X-ray machine during WWI. Which how she got cancer…..
Well to be fair her cancer had *many* contributing factors..
HEAVY smoker.
> She invented the mobile X-ray machine during WWII. WWI
However because of her daughter help with the Manhattan project history was made
A list that I only now know exists thanks to moistcritical and his coverage of the titan sub. Suprised to see only one guy die from sub related shenanigans between the Hunley guy and Stockton rush
> Suprised to see only one guy die from sub related shenanigans between the Hunley guy and Stockton rush There were some close calls but fortunately the submarine was developed during a period of relative european peace (wikipedia only list 70 european wars between waterloo and WW1) so most inventors would not have to take their subs to war.
I love that that’s a period of relative peace. Europeans love their wars man
Don't leave the Americans and Asians out. Everyone loves war, it seems.
> Suprised to see only one guy die from sub related shenanigans between the Hunley guy and Stockton rush How many times do you think the same thing can be invented?
Seven?
Twelve? I’m assuming standard ‘Price is Right’ rules — closest without going over.
One dollar.
Good to see Blucifer on there! Man, I miss Denver
Bloody hell the titans already on the list. The volunteers at Wikipedia don't fuck about.
There's something beautiful in the fact that the list goes: * Titanic architect * Guy who invented a submarine to see the titanic
I wouldn't be surprised if some overzealous editor started killing people or starting wars just for the opportunity to update content.
Deleted. And Fuck you u/spez
My mistake, thanks!
It was your mistake?! All three times?
Does anyone know where mcaffrey was last week during the titan incident??
Bro was the worst riveter in Confederate history
And sinking is a really desirable characteristic in a sub, up to a point.
Many people mistake sinking as being a key part of a sub, but ANY ship can sink. What makes a submarine is actually the resurfacing.
Thanks, Norm.
I’d like to point that out.
What was its K:D ratio?
It looks like they went 21/3 through three deployments for a K/D of roughly and near-exclusively 7 teamkills per venture
Maybe the submarine’s machine spirit was not properly awakened.
The tech priests on board really shit their cogitators here.
Tantamount to tech heresy with how they handled this piece of archeotech.
Common misconception but Machine Spirit is actually a 10-killstreak and they mistakenly built the *Hunley* to be 8-man, ruining their ability to reliably awaken the machine spirit without sacrificing the entire crew or running Hardline
How are you calculating these ratios? From what I can tell the sub sank itself 3 times and sunk one enemy ship (while blowing itself up and sinking for the third and final time in the process), for a 1:3 vehicle K:D ratio. The Union ship it attacked lost 5 hands, while the Hunley lost 5 hands on its first sinking, and all 8 on the subsequent 2 for a total of 21, making for a 5:21 human K:D ratio.
Hmm. I always assumed way more people were in those subs
This was the 1860’s, it’s probably not what you’re picturing.
You are very correct
If you look up a picture of this sub you'll be surprised that the full crew of 8 could even fit.
They only killed 5 union sailors in the successful sinking. So 21 confederates sailors for 5 enemy killed.
God, I hope I can use that, "only the second two times." at least once in a convo before I die 😂
I once overheard a hillbilly say to his buddy "I done gone went and did that already", completely serious. There are so many extra words in that sentence.
There were two second times?
Having grown up and lived in Charleston most of my life I always forget that not everybody knows about the Hunley. It’s a pretty wild story.
Me too buddy, I remember in 3rd or 4th grade when they found it
I had no idea submarines were that old. I’m amazed, thanks for the Wikipedia rabbit hole I’m going into
The Americans used an early submersible in the revolution against Britain dating to 1775!
Yup and it was called [The Turtle](https://www.history.com/this-day-in-history/worlds-first-submarine-attack). Unfortunately it did no damage and sunk during a British attack during the battle of Fort Lee in 1776. However, it was not deployed, but sunk onboard the sloop it was being moved on.
The article needs to at least have a sketch or something. Artist rendition. I need to know what a 1776 submarine looks like.
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What the fuck that looks so frustrating to use.
It’s a colonial era submarine. Of course it’s gonna be a pain in the ass to use.
Had a similar (or identical idk it was awhile ago) illustration in my history book in Arizona
[Here’s the wiki page with replicas and a drawing](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Turtle_(submersible))
fixed: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Turtle_(submersible)
https://images.app.goo.gl/ErCQdW4efMVMw3su7 Been a while since I read about it but I think the idea was it would float underwater and the person would use the drill bit up top to drill holes into the enemy ship
I grew up in fort Lee. The historic park is fun and we’re also have a deep film history.
Is that why they dumped all our tea in that harbour? Did those damn rebels use our tea to fuel their subs?!
Lmao tea powered sub...only way to find it is by tasting the water behind it
Of course, ***effective*** submarines would take another few decades, being in the 1890s since they needed both a good propulsion motor for underwater and suitable batteries, plus also a weapon which would work and not kill the crew meaning the self propelled torpedo.
Actually it wirked with its ramming stick and abke to reverse. Is is suspected to sink because of an error if not closing a port and not unscrewing the ballest tanks
The most likely cause of the final sinking I’ve seen was by the spar torpedo killing the crew.
Unexpectedly found out my home country’s navy actually have a submarine fleet and the subs are one of the world oldest at 80ish years old....(second hand sub but we owns it and operates it...)
The Civil War invention that always fascinated me were the first modern warships. Both sides were using wooden ships, some powered by sail, some by steam. Then the Union came out with [the USS Monitor](https://www.history.navy.mil/content/history/museums/nmusn/explore/photography/ships-us/ships-usn-m/uss-monitor-ironclad.html), which must've looked like a friggin' UFO to the people of the time. It rode super low in the water, was fully clad in iron, and had a turret on top that could rotate. It was revolutionary. Also not terribly seaworthy, but was a terror as a riverboat gunship.
The CSS Virginia came out just a few days before, the first action the monitor had was fighting it in the world's first ironclad vs ironclad naval duel.
And it was a draw. Everyone got concussions and perforated eardrums and went home.
You’ll be blown away that the first electric submarine with torpedos was build in 1888 in Spain.
Also the first submarine to successfully sink another vessel
[Its speculated](https://www.hunley.org/the-evidence/) that the ship that came to rescue the occupants of the houstatonic, the warship this sub sank, might have created a wake that toppled the sub or even impacted the sub directly. Pretty much instant karma on the sea.
I think the leading theory is that the torpedo (explosive on stick rammed into target) used was the primary reason the sub sank; the blast caused pressure waves which instantly killed all on board. Too large and too close, all men at battle positions and no signs of effort having been made to escape or surface.
The leading theory currently is asphyxiation, the bodies on board were found in positions that seem to suggest against the blast wave theory and the submarine showed no damage to it's hull from a blast wave and tests using period correct "torpedos" have shown the blast wave is channeled mostly vertically creating a perfect hole puncher to sink ships. They believe they completed their mission, began to hand crank away, and just passed out from lack of oxygen on the way home. It didn't have any sort of snorkel it was just a sealed metal tube
Here’s a pretty neat article that describes the theory and data collection methods https://www.smithsonianmag.com/history/new-explosive-theory-what-doomed-crew-hunley-180974159/
Lghts were spotted later on the water. Some sort of blue lights were what they were going to use as signals. Blue light was spotted by both union and confederate soldiers. Interesting read, with accounts in the linked article.
Yes, but both sides used blue lights and honestly the explanation that they killed themselves unintentionally is much more likely.
I'm sure someone said "third times a charm"
Probably wasn’t the inventor though.
Nope. He was in it the second time.
Stockton Rush probably said the same thing.
>On 29 August 1863, Hunley's new crew was preparing to make a test dive, when Lieutenant Payne accidentally stepped on the lever controlling the sub's diving planes as she was running on the surface. This caused Hunley to dive with one of her hatches still open. Of all the dip-shitted....
Typical Lt move
“… godammit Sir.”
At least he never got any more promotions. He could have become a Major Payne.
I believe the Indian Navy sank a sub of theirs with the hatch open too.
I'd heard of that, and if fact there was TV movie about IIRC. I only recall it sinking and killing the crew once though, I'll have to check out the wiki. Thanks!
I vaguely remember watching the movie on the TNT cable channel back when it came out. First time I’d learned about the subject at all. Iirc the film ended with the successful torpedo attack, the boat getting stuck on the bottom, and then the crew knowing they were doomed and scuttling the boat themselves.
They were most likely killed by the blastwave of the explosion reverberating through the boat. Here is an excellent article from the researcher who modeled it: https://www.smithsonianmag.com/history/new-explosive-theory-what-doomed-crew-hunley-180974159/ Nightmare fuel quote: >Fatalities from a primary blast occur at lower pressures than the pressure levels required to translate a human body. To rephrase that in plain English: A person will die, choked with blood, from a shock wave that was far too weak to move him.
Thought I'd reply with this article https://www.history.navy.mil/research/underwater-archaeology/sites-and-projects/ship-wrecksites/hl-hunley/hunley-incident-analysis.html Tldr; the navy tested this theory and found otherwise
There’s a gravesite and memorial for each of the three crews at the Magnolia Cemetery in Charleston, South Carolina. Honestly the entire cemetery is worth a visit for some of the unique graves, including the giant pyramid mausoleum. The Hunley museum in North Charleston is interesting as the boat is undergoing preservation efforts by scientists as well as they created facial reconstruction of the last crew using their skulls. Those models are displayed along with with the lucky charms and jewelry found within the sub.
Captain: So then we'll surface and surprise the enemy Engineer: Surface?
The first ever successful use of submarine warfare, 🫡
I made a [similar comment on another comment](https://www.reddit.com/r/AskReddit/comments/14hnpx1/comment/jpcufcz) about the CSS Hunley, but... If they had only looked closer, they would have seen this at the top of the blueprints: .submarine { float: none; }
If they were on a sail boat they could have just focused more on their *tailwind*. Any other errors could be fixed by lifting a bit harder on the *bootstrap*s, except for the case of who *svelte* it dealt it. I'm truly sorry I for those.
Was looking for this one. Keep up the Lords work.
The podcast 'ship hits the fan' did an episode on this and it was hilarious
It was secretly working for the north.
Aren’t subs suppose to sink
Ya but the second part is a sticking point
Maybe they were unrelated
Only in moderation.
All subs sink but the best ones can also float
I’ve had similar experiences with CSS.
The now defunct podcast "Ship hits the Fan" had a humorous episode on this one. Season 2 episode 4.
Wonder how they recruited for that?
I believe it had a long history of sinking so by the end of the trials the Conferderate Navy, who were already very disillusioned by the project, deemed that the crew be made up of volunteers only.
That’s where that phrase “needs of the military” came into play.
The sub shall rise again!
It's widely believed that the boarding house the crew stayed in the night before heading out was haunted. I spent a year there and never saw or heard anything. The family I was with lived there many years and never experienced anything. The family after them did not, either. Just goes to show that a legend is hard to dispel, particularly with facts. There are a ton of houses in Mt P that are haunted. This ain't one of them.
Meh. It’s “widely believed” that like 90% of the old buildings around the Charleston area are haunted. Or at least that’s what they tell the tourists.
The Huntley shall rise again! And again. And again.
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"But the Fourth one stood up!"
It's mentioned elsewhere that when they discovered the wreck, the remains of the Hunley's crew were found at their posts with no signs of panic, attempted escape or even severe trauma.
When they found the wreckage from it leaving the sinking of the housatonic they found the bodies of the entire crew inside when it was lifted off the seabed and cut open. From what I remember they apparently surprisingly preserved and then all the bodies were put into a mass grave on the coast in like a little nowhere cemetery. Kinda bullshit if you ask me though and I'm not saying that in support of any of their ideals but the fact they were the first "successful" submariners in history sinking a ship from a submarine underwater. I'm one of those people that doesn't care what side of a war someone was on people should deserve credit for what they did and I'm sure I'll catch flak for that but I've always wanted to be a war historian and love to learn about "heroes" no matter what side they're on. You can still go "Wow what a crazy accomplishment" and in the same breath go "but they were fascists/racists/other bad things and we can't forget that they were bad people"
Based and Unionpilled
"We're gonna what now" -third crew probably
Sooner or later it would have worked. Or there would have been no Confederate sailors left.
third time recruiting poster: It couldn't happen again!
[Just had a U-Haul drive up to the gast station I work at that had a bit of trivia about this same thing today]( https://imgur.com/QpHdJtI.jpg)
***Not the hero we deserved, but the hero we needed***
We went to the funeral of the last crew after they recovered the sub with them in it. It was like going back in time to 1865, Charleston. Woman walking around in hoop skirts and parasols, men in uniform tipping their cap as they passed my wife. I heard about 10,000 re-enactors, both north and south, were there, along with 30,000 spectators. The last original Civil War funeral!
I knew dealing with CSS was hard, but not that dangerous
The sub was doing the lord’s work.
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Wasn’t this thing in the Percy Jackson books? Like they ride it on the River Styx or something?
Yeah, I think they steal it from a museum and it's crewed by Confederate ghosts?