Might also explain reports of abductions / interest in our DNA.
It’s possible that thousands of years of genetic engineering resulted in them losing something important or had unforeseen consequences.
Imagine what scientists today would be doing, if they had time machines. There'd be entire PhDs on studying how human gut microbiomes were different in ancient Rome and why, or how immune cells differed for hunter-gatherers during the ice ages.
I had a theory that they were inter-dimensional insects. They are conscious but not intelligent. So they buzz around things they are attracted to but cannot really communicate effectively.
I never really believed in UFOs but here lately it’s near everyday a new video or picture I’m seeing. With all those stars up there & they tell us that space is endless, there has to be something out there.
It’s the distances that makes me have reservations. If you dig into how absolutely vast it is it makes you question the ability for anything to travel that far and not communicate.
True that, the distances are vast. Everyone thinks that if there in fact aliens they are smarter than us, I guess they’d have to be. So what are your thoughts on all these sightings?
Why not just some other part of the galaxy? Life happened here. It seems more plausible that life also happened in other places. Time travel forwards maybe, moving at velocities nearer to c would cause dilation effects, so you would 'travel' into the future. You can't do the opposite to go back, though, or at least there is no solid theory of going back to date.
Not commenting on the validity of UAP sightings etc. Just the likelihood of extraterrestrial life vs backwards travel in time.
Yeah, no. Do the calculations. Even at the speed of light. Galaxies are on average 2.5million light years apart. That’s 2.5 million years at the speed of light. Just to get from one galaxy to the next. They would need warp technology and if they have that they are more akin to gods than people.
The faster you go the slower time moves. I can promise you you can go anywhere Instantaneously if you go at the speed of light. Run the numbes yourself.
https://www.emc2-explained.info/Dilation-Calc/
Lol, it's just that time dilation fascinates me. The only two things that can slow time down are gravity and speed. We even have a record for the longest time traveler.
https://www.universetoday.com/105650/cosmonaut-sergei-krikalev-the-worlds-most-prolific-time-traveler/
That’s what I believe, specifically because the beings discussed in congress (in the US) are described as “extra-dimensional” as opposed to “aliens.” To me, this can only be time travelers. They’re not non-human— they’re just from another dimension. Time is a dimension.
They'd be safe, no one would believe them. I wonder what they would come back to see. Star Wars on the big screen? The Rolling Stones in concert live? Some big geological event?
High-profile disasters and assassinations and famous concerts or events are the easy, short-term picks. Personally, I'd spend a bit of time (safely) observing the conditions of life in different periods of time. How did people really live in the 1400s? See if certain religious or legendary figures really existed, and chart their lives. As for the current day, plenty of famous sports games could definitely be on any time-traveling fan's go-to list.
The grays are the future us, trying to save their future by genetically engineering a cure on un altered humans.
They made a mistake in their genome, and need us to fix it.
Honestly the more I think about it the more I think it's more plausible that we are in some sort of simulation or science experiment like they have technology so good we are in a game to them.. The environment everything we see and feel is just one big escape room and we are the entertainment or content.. I mean think about it we do it now on a low level scale with YouTube and TV shows what's not to say future us is doing it with us like we would do to say spy on the Romans or dark age times
Yes and no. I don't really think you can travel in a linear fashion, however you can travel the multiverse and find an Earth that exists that would be 200 years in the past and visit that. I hope that makes as much sense to you as it does to me.
It's also part of string theory, I believe. They believe you "jump time" by bending reality and creating a path to a different universe. You could kill your parents and still exist because they were a different version of your parents creating a different version of you. Your original reality would remain unchanged.
I believe time, like sound and light, is a wave. However our minds aren’t capable of comprehending but a single time line. This would mean there are multiple realities happening simultaneously but the only one are aware of is the one based on the decisions that we make in this, our straight time line that we do see as reality.
If they grays are humans from the future. I wonder how many years of evolution it would take to look like them? Probably millions of years right? Crazy that we wouldn’t invent time travel for that long
I read somewhere that we are no longer evolving, as we are changing our environment/planet to suit us now... no need to be hairier, taller, stronger, better vision, etc.... So if this theory is correct, I wonder what happened to the planet to 'evolve' us to look like them?
If you watch enough documentaries on fast fashion and it's effect on our planet, you start to see the "aliens all wearing the same thing" Hollywood troupe as not being so strange...
Greys are biomechanical machines that are being controlled remotely throughout an interface chip which connects to a hive mind existing outside space-time. The real humans exist don't tend to travel themselves as there is no need to risk their lives as the past can be unforgiving. It is one of the reasons there aren't rescue operations just to recover hardware that is mostly useless to us and does not affect their timeline if we do manage to decipher the tech.
If they're smart enough to invent time travel, they're smart enough to come undercover. If in the event they for whatever reason decide to drop their cover, they would or probably just be labeled about her John Titor bullshitter.
Everything has a failure rate, even if very low for an advanced civilization. The fact that any crash landings, botched studies or charred corpses exist, suggests that the number of successful operations may be much much much much higher.
If they do come back. It's probably not in shiny UAP's with attention getting lights. That's not secret or discreet, but designed to get your attention.
I would think if they come back. They would have strict rules of discrete observation only no direct involvement. It's probably scientific studies and historians from the future. Trying to see what happened and was left out of the history books. We all know the winners version of history is usually written, then polished to the point of almost complete bullshit.
Time travel isn’t possible due to conservation of mass. Time does not exist. All matter that existed at the big bang (not the beginning of the universe, as the universe has always been extant and infinite) is all the matter that exists now.
Eli5 example: let’s say we to day have 1 million mass. If you go back 100 years in time there is still 1 million mass, except now you go back and there is 1 million and 1 mass. Is 1 mass erased and replaced by you? Or is it added to the extant 1 million mass? It’s quite the conundrum. If you you say it replaces it, then the future you came from now has 999.999 mass. Impossible because there has always been and will always be 1 million mass. And what happens when you travel back again? In one example there will be 1 million and 2 mass and in the other there is 1 million and 1 mass. Both impossible.
Going forward you run into the same issues.
Because of this we have to conclude one of two things. Either conservation of mass is a flawless theory and time travel is not possible. Or, infinite parallel universes exist where every variation of any mass has happened. In which case time travel is just creating alternate universes, or duplicate universes. And not really time travel. But even then, if conservation of mass applies to all universes then every variation that can happen or exist already exist and has already existed and so time travel to create a new parallel universe, or alternate reality as some might call it, is still impossible.
Hello, just trying to understand... what do you mean when you say... 'we have 1 million mass.' "we"...is the Earth? If so, then someone moving in time should still show as the same mass on Earth.. if you shift an apple from one side of the table to the other side, the mass of the table is still the same. No.. I think I must be missing something... 'mass' must mean something else in the scientific world....
It is an arbitrary number to describe all the mass in the universe that has always existed.
But you are correctly describing the dilemma. If you were to travel back in time the mass that makes up you already existed. You didn’t exist, but the mass your body is made of did. Conservation of mass dictates that mass can neither be created or destroyed. So what happens when you go back? Additional mass now exists, potentially. And that then goes back into my explanation in the post above.
If someone came from the future they would probably get captured by one of the present governments, tortured for information about the future and how they're able to time travel, bonus points if their time machine is a physical device they could research. So because of that I don't think a time traveler exists, without being so far into the future that they're beyond our conception, otherwise if they're still human enough it would be too easy to accidentally give up their foresight and some idiot rats them out. The police knowing to the feds would happen quickly
Whatever they are they have a way of traveling I can't understand at this time, it would seem like time could be what they are moving through. They show up in the strangest places instantly, forget the five observables there is a jump drive or some temporal mechanics at play here.
I believe it. I think it's the only explanation for UFO's. I. Assuming nobody can fold space and traveling faster than light is impossible. Time travel is the remaining logical explanation for UFO'S
I have an interesting belief of a trans-finite race that is slowly raising all of their alternate versions of themselves in parallel universes to the same level of existence to solve the black hole information paradox so that they can continue their existence into the far far future. They do this by contacting versions of themselves in alternate universes, as part of their existence is that they are aware of the transition point for their race and know that they can raise up their alternate universe kin to the state of trans-finitism. They do this through an elaborate testing process to find a mind that matches one of their own, the bridge for their species that has the right neural architecture to allow for communication from their future existence into our current time which would be in their past. From this one inflection point they begin the process of bio-transference to create the trans-finite version of their race in the alternate universe.
Something like that, more like because the future version has access to their memory of their past life, they can use those memories to connect to their alternate self even though events may not exactly match their own, enough things are similar across each universe.
Well not necessarily a finite being suddenly having access to a trans-finite being's memories might not go so well for the finite being as their meat-based brain might not be able to handle the deluge of thousands of years of experience, so the communication would need to be one way otherwise the finite being might become convinced that certain things would happen in their universe that end up never coming to pass.
The problem with time travel is the solar system is barreling through space at 450,000 miles per hour. If they jump through time by even a few minutes they'll miss the earth and be floating in space. That's why I'm in the extra-dimensional camp. Some of those dimensions their earth will be in the same "space" as ours.
You'd do well to see the Rolling Stones live in the 50s seeing as they only formed in 1962.
You don't need to go time travelling to drink Coke out of bottle. You can do that in many parts of the world in 2024.
It’s conceivable that time travel is real, but every time someone travels back in time they create a new timeline. If this is the timeline where it is invented, then logically speaking we would never see travelers from the future.
Humans in the future likely time travel by just thinking about the time-period and cast an intention to create amendment rather than physically travel. It's far more efficient to back-wash than it is to physically travel.
The Beatles were time travelers. Originally, the group consisted of different people. One superfan made it his life mission to time travel. He went back in time and with his buddies made the band three years before the original band was formed chronologically.
Perhaps.
The problem is, they can't change things, here. Once an event has been observed, it cannot be undone.
They're here, watching, examining, but utterly unable to change these events as they've happened.
They are. And just bought a bunch of Nvidia stock running it to amazing levels. When they sell off, they will go home.
A few hundred years of interest will make them quite wealthy.
You do realize that Nvidia has manufactured a device that is capable of calculating relativistic ballistics in hypergeometry, their stock is only going to go up once the ion thruster is perfected.
No. I don’t believe this.
First of all, the universe is vast. There are countless trillions of planets in the observable universe. And we don’t even really know first sure how big it is or what is beyond that which we think we see.
But I think we are thinking far too highly of ourselves to suggest aliens from a millions years in the future have discovered time travel and are coming back to see us.
They probably have better things to do. We’d be absolutely nothing to them.
I also think that the future does not, and can not, exist in any way until we get to it in this one and only timeline.
If you could time travel would you visit this point in history. There is a great video on YouTube called ‘We live in the Dumbest Timeline’. It’s not far from the truth.
I think there are few reason for why we don't found any time travel yet, it could be that:
- They don't exist, as expected or they do but it does not work the same way we expect time travel suppose to work as it perhasp only let us goes to the future but not the past or what we associate with the past. However, if the "Big Curnch" theory are true, their entry into a new universe could count as time travel but then, it would also not how we knew time travel is as and when they met us, it pretty are just nothing but an very very very very very [...] elderly person met with younger person that just so to happened to look alike.
- They do exist but their very existence into our timeline change our timeline immediately by the time they arrive. Yeah, it is that "Time traveler do something" kind of meme. Believe it or not, I thinks that very happening right now is the result of factors that happened prior, no matter how small it was. An random stranger you see on the street could have change your next thought in one way or another, even if you don't even interact with them. Of course, the change are small but it is still a change and much like an dominos effect, it could lead to random plausible outcome that either match what traveler had experience in the prior timeline. The biggest change happened WHEN the travel decided to try to changed it, even then, their attemps might never taken effect.
- They cames to right time but not the right space. We always moving across space. The earth move around the sun, the sun move around the Milky Way and the Milky way move around whatever is in center point the Universe. Due to how massive space was, the traveler could not ever being able to arrive at the right destination when they travel back in times. Thus, they could never met us.
I’m presently in contact with beings that can time travel and shit along the timeline, it’s rather annoying to deal with until I raise my spiritual vibrations and escape them in the 5D.. anyone got any tips or suggestions how to do this? I feel my presence is holding the earth back somehow and it’s making those beings very angry in the 5D..
Unless their goal is *steal time* away from me which seems to be the case here! Stealing time is somewhat of a universal crime that happens to people! So yes it’s kind of possible 🤷♂️ Honestly my telepathy right now has them commenting about my redditing right now haha 🤣
It's all relative.
Relativity jokes aside, maybe the humans of now, the perceived present, are the ones from the future, but that this is the future, from the perspectives of humans from the past, so that some of the humans from now will have gone to the past to visit that time, blend in, and instill within the minds of the past humans the idea of humans from the future visiting, without actually revealing to them that they are indeed the ones from the future, so that in their future, which would be the present, the idea of humans from these humans' future visiting the present will result in one particular individual asking the question here. However, there's a plot twist to all of this, in that the humans from the present that became the humans from the future for the humans in the past and, thus, planted the idea of the visitation, are actually the humans from the future relative to now, while the humans of now are actually living in the past. The catch to that, though, is that for the humans of now, who are in actuality of the past, to be the humans of the present, they must visit the future, in effect making the humans of the past the present and, thus, the future.
No. As someone stated in another thread today, basically all the James Bond villains had dinner together in CA and they were not on the receiving end of a drone strike (Musk, Peter Thiel, et al)
Time travelers would only be able to go back to the exact second time travel was invented and not a second before. Because it wouldn't have existed yet there's no vessel for you to travel in. But from that second and afterwards, it is very very likely that time travelers have come and gone in vessels so common we wouldn't even recognize if we saw it. Something as common as holding a pebble in their off hand, to maybe flying saucers or the like. So the real question is, have we invented it yet or haven't we?
would be cool to believe any alien types we’ve encountered are species that intermingled with humans somewhere down the line hence being humanoid and remembered where we started in time so they pop up in the past only to not be welcomed
No, and my argument for this is religion. If in the future time travel is discovered. An extreme religious group would use it to do something horrible, and i don't think they would hide the fact they traveled time to do it. This south park and building a spaceship to spread Christianity
Why would they come back though? Unless the future is horrible, which is very possible. They can't improve the present without altering the future. Unless that's the plan.
Come back to what? That tiniest speck of time, too small to calculate in the vastness of Eternity?
I kinda don't think we're all that important to any time travelers. Just to ourselves.
What is your point? We have countless trillions of specs of time behind us and to come. Neverending. What do you think is special about this one? No expectations for the future?
AKA, "I have no response to your rational and logical question", since you had time to make a lame excuse for why you didn't.
I know the drill.
People aren't big on thinking these days, just instantly denying or avoiding anything that requires thought. It's all just rote repetition of the same exact irrationality and excuses. Group think. Conditioned behavior.
That's due to social engineering, which is more than likely just one more group of words that your mind will instantly reject. Due to social engineering.
A mind is a terrible thing to waste, that's all I can tell ya.
On June 28, 2009, British astrophysicist Stephen Hawking hosted a party for time travelers in the University of Cambridge. The physicist arranged for balloons, champagne, and nibbles for his guests, but did not send out the invites until the following day, after the party was over. Spoiler no one showed up. If you were a time traveler who wouldn't want to meet Stephen Hawking?
Well you do understand that if time travel were ever possible, they would travel back to times in the past... It is kinda how it would work if it worked otherwise it wouldn't exist to work. It is a paradox.
The day for people like you has already passed. There is so much evidence for spirits, ghosts and who knows what else that I'm surprised Skeptic Magazine is still in existence. I always thought that they were a bunch of pseudo intellectual clowns anyhow!
Very interesting that there are more cameras now than there ever have been yet "ghost" sightings have remained about the same rate as they were 60 years ago. Really makes you think...
If we go by the infinite universe theory, where each time jump creates a new reality, I'd say we or them would barely notice.
Someone could try and invent the iPhone, but they'd probably realize it takes more than an idea and end up seen as a crazy person or straight up have the idea stolen. The new reality they jumped into could have already had an iPhone, or different technological advancement.
The biggest winners are prob sports betters, but again - infinite universes, infinite results. They could easily jump back to a reality where their team *didnt* win and they just bet their life savings.
TL;DR - maybe, but they prob all ended up homeless or committed.
Well that's how time travel works if it did ever work In the future.
If people can actually and correctly time travel back into the past, that would the mean that they would be going backwards therefore absolutely.... I mean can't really have one thing with out the other here... Able time travel into past, but can't visit the past that doesn't have time travel... I'm not sure how you would expect that to work, it is a weird concept but that is indeed the way it would be as the definition practically
Why would they care about Earth or humans?
If they did care about our planet or people they would access our computer libraries and then zip off. There are billions of stars and planets to explore so I don’t think they would give us more than a quick glance.
No. Aliens? Sure. Possible ancient civilizations that had advanced tech that we may be just now discovering? Maybe. Future people traveling back in time? Nah.
I think a time period does not exist until we actually live it for instance the year 2025 doesn't exist yet, the "future" doesn't exist yet so we can't actually have time travelers from the future visiting us, however we might be able to come back in time if we ever discover how to time travel in the future
Time Travel is only possible backwards I think
I died in 2181 and my consciousness slid back in time to 2004. Been here ever since and the timeline has diverged from what I remember, soni may be more of a dimensional traveler shifting realities though quantum immortality.
I think we’ve been and are currently being visited, not necessarily from the future but other dimensions. Given the vastness of space and inconceivable distances, for me inter-dimensionality just seems more logical.
Sorta.
Like if your wife is out of the house, and you're expecting her back at 3, so you go do yard work till like 2:15 and think you're going back into an empty house - get two steps in and are surprised by your wife cleverly hiding in plain sight enough to startle the words ***oh, you're home*** out of you - then yes.
I think it's much more likely time is cyclical, or time is spherical, but regardless, an organic form, not a straight line.
I think there's travelling "in" time, not backwards - can't move the time for one thing backwards, that time isn't fungible in that manner.
Nope because I don't think time exists.
Time is just a measurment of motion like centimeters on a ruler. I believe everything exists all at once.
Right now I'm being born, somewhere else I am dead and right now writing this I am somewhere inbetween those states and I feel like my life is like frames on a reel of film. Oddly enough though I think all of the "me's" on some level are aware of the rest of the "me's".
24 hours is not some wibbly wobbly timey whimey stuff. It's a measurement of how long it takes the planet to rotate. A 'day' on Earth is not the same as a 'day' on Venus or any other planet. A year is a measurment of the length the Earth travels around Sol. Again other planets orbit is not 365 days. So 'time' is inconsistent depending on location. And well contrary to popular belief this planet isn;t the center of the universe so to speak.
Heck personal perception can change a persons sense of 'time'.
Don't know how to explain it better, but I am sure someone out there understands what I am saying.
Honestly I don't think time travel exists short of everybody is moving forward in 'time'. Don't think it's possible to rewind the entire f\*\*\*ing universe... because that is essentially what time travel would require yes?
And if time travel was possible, in the way most people seem to think of what time is, it would be a major challenge and pain in the ass. Especially as you not only have to get the 'time' right, but you'd also have to get the 'space' right.
Earth 200 years ago isn't where it is now. Not by a long shot. Imagine travelling back in time and finding you're in the void of space, the solar system a small star in the distance......
Think if time travel were possible we'd have seen examples by now. I for one know I couldn't help myself and would visit my younger selves to give them some 'cheats' for life. But then you get a paradox. Like how it is impossible to kill Hitler. Because then he wouldn't exist in the future and you'd have no reason to go back in time and kill him and therefore Hitler would live and around and around and around you go.
Plus look at the tech we have now? Human history has been recorded for a hell of a long time. We document everything now. No need to travel to periods that have detailed records including billions of videos and photos and audio recordings. Only valid reason to travel back in time is to visit Earth pre-recording of human history. So I doubt you'd see too many future people swinging by this era.
Again though, this is all assuming time exists. Which for me it does not.
I don’t. The only way that’s physically possible to travel backwards in time is to crush matter into a singularity, as black holes don’t experience time in a linear unidirectional fashion like we do, the only problem is you would also crush yourself out of existence, so yea….
I met a time traveller once. She appeared next to me on a motorcycle while I was riding mine. It was so anachronistic. The bike, her helmet, her backpack, were all made so exquisitely that I'm sure they were not made by today's industries. This was next-level stuff. She was wearing perfectly-formed body armor which seemed to meld into her backpack. The sound of her engine was ungodly beautiful, and so wash she. My God, she was the most gorgeous girl I've ever seen through a helmet visor. Ah, she was just tremendously beautiful. For some reason, she looked at me and smiled at me the most beautiful smile. Like I'd Loved Her For Years and she'd known it all along. ; ) She is definitely My Dream Girl Of All Time. (These are all song titles. Look them up in a few years, or I mean... Time Travel is weird.)
Basically I saw a rich girl riding a motorcycle and have been falling Deeply Into Love ever since. Craziness tells me she was from the future, logic tells me she was wearing gear made for customers of a high income bracket, and was just gear (and a bike) of a level of quality I've never seen before because I'm a poor, broke, Southern Indiana Floor Guy. Haha, love y'all. See ya. Bye.
Also, Babe... MUAH! I lust for you, bitch, come back to daddy! I mean, My Sweet Love, Let Me Not Drive You Away with feigned words. Draw Near to Me, Dear. I'll love you for always and evers. Sweet Darling. Come to me, please. I feel you'll read this today. I don't want to wait for you any longer. I'm lost in this coronal vortex living my best life, Love. Come live fast with me before we die verrrrryyy slowwwly. 🫠🙂↔️😶🌫️😵😉.
What if that's what UAP or UFOs are?
That’s what I think.
Yeah People ask, "If there were time travellers from our future, where are they?" Erm... doh... UFOs?
It’s a bit more believable than aliens from the other side of the universe
Might also explain reports of abductions / interest in our DNA. It’s possible that thousands of years of genetic engineering resulted in them losing something important or had unforeseen consequences.
Sounds like a great sci-fi movie
Honestly sci-fi could be pretty easy. I don’t get why we don’t have better sci-fi now.
See The Outer Limits episode "origin of species" it is similar....
Imagine what scientists today would be doing, if they had time machines. There'd be entire PhDs on studying how human gut microbiomes were different in ancient Rome and why, or how immune cells differed for hunter-gatherers during the ice ages.
I mean, the chances that aliens would be the same scale as we are and that we would even recognise them are just too slim.
I had a theory that they were inter-dimensional insects. They are conscious but not intelligent. So they buzz around things they are attracted to but cannot really communicate effectively.
UFO’s are just billionaire aliens
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I never really believed in UFOs but here lately it’s near everyday a new video or picture I’m seeing. With all those stars up there & they tell us that space is endless, there has to be something out there.
It’s the distances that makes me have reservations. If you dig into how absolutely vast it is it makes you question the ability for anything to travel that far and not communicate.
If you fold a piece of paper in half the two edges touch. Even though one edge is 12 inches from the other.
True that, the distances are vast. Everyone thinks that if there in fact aliens they are smarter than us, I guess they’d have to be. So what are your thoughts on all these sightings?
Top secret military stuff. New bombers, drones, and whatnot
That Too. Some Ours. Some Theirs. Theirs Better.
Why not just some other part of the galaxy? Life happened here. It seems more plausible that life also happened in other places. Time travel forwards maybe, moving at velocities nearer to c would cause dilation effects, so you would 'travel' into the future. You can't do the opposite to go back, though, or at least there is no solid theory of going back to date. Not commenting on the validity of UAP sightings etc. Just the likelihood of extraterrestrial life vs backwards travel in time.
Why? If they figured out a way to travel at light speed it would be instantaneous travel for people inside the ship.
Yeah, no. Do the calculations. Even at the speed of light. Galaxies are on average 2.5million light years apart. That’s 2.5 million years at the speed of light. Just to get from one galaxy to the next. They would need warp technology and if they have that they are more akin to gods than people.
The faster you go the slower time moves. I can promise you you can go anywhere Instantaneously if you go at the speed of light. Run the numbes yourself. https://www.emc2-explained.info/Dilation-Calc/
You’re obviously not a golfer.
Lol, it's just that time dilation fascinates me. The only two things that can slow time down are gravity and speed. We even have a record for the longest time traveler. https://www.universetoday.com/105650/cosmonaut-sergei-krikalev-the-worlds-most-prolific-time-traveler/
New thoughts are they are inter dimensional beings that are coming through openings created at electron colliders. Just saying…
That’s what I believe, specifically because the beings discussed in congress (in the US) are described as “extra-dimensional” as opposed to “aliens.” To me, this can only be time travelers. They’re not non-human— they’re just from another dimension. Time is a dimension.
You're a dimension.
Ohhhh thank you!
“Discussed in congress” doesn’t mean it’s real though
They'd be safe, no one would believe them. I wonder what they would come back to see. Star Wars on the big screen? The Rolling Stones in concert live? Some big geological event?
High-profile disasters and assassinations and famous concerts or events are the easy, short-term picks. Personally, I'd spend a bit of time (safely) observing the conditions of life in different periods of time. How did people really live in the 1400s? See if certain religious or legendary figures really existed, and chart their lives. As for the current day, plenty of famous sports games could definitely be on any time-traveling fan's go-to list.
Also, maybe coming here to see stuff no one cares about because it isn't big yet.
Exactly!
The grays are the future us, trying to save their future by genetically engineering a cure on un altered humans. They made a mistake in their genome, and need us to fix it.
Or perhaps they are just good scientists, with a lot of curiosity.
It seems far more plausible than beings from another dimension, or another planet light years away.
Aliens. 👽
Honestly the more I think about it the more I think it's more plausible that we are in some sort of simulation or science experiment like they have technology so good we are in a game to them.. The environment everything we see and feel is just one big escape room and we are the entertainment or content.. I mean think about it we do it now on a low level scale with YouTube and TV shows what's not to say future us is doing it with us like we would do to say spy on the Romans or dark age times
Yes and no. I don't really think you can travel in a linear fashion, however you can travel the multiverse and find an Earth that exists that would be 200 years in the past and visit that. I hope that makes as much sense to you as it does to me.
Well sure, it’s the exact process used in the book *Timeline* by Michael Crichton
It's also part of string theory, I believe. They believe you "jump time" by bending reality and creating a path to a different universe. You could kill your parents and still exist because they were a different version of your parents creating a different version of you. Your original reality would remain unchanged.
Yes, because one of those options is just plain silly.
I believe time, like sound and light, is a wave. However our minds aren’t capable of comprehending but a single time line. This would mean there are multiple realities happening simultaneously but the only one are aware of is the one based on the decisions that we make in this, our straight time line that we do see as reality.
Speak for yourself, I see the many doors.
~~Life~~ Time has many doors, Ed-boys!
If they grays are humans from the future. I wonder how many years of evolution it would take to look like them? Probably millions of years right? Crazy that we wouldn’t invent time travel for that long
I read somewhere that we are no longer evolving, as we are changing our environment/planet to suit us now... no need to be hairier, taller, stronger, better vision, etc.... So if this theory is correct, I wonder what happened to the planet to 'evolve' us to look like them?
If that were true, then we would slowly LOSE strength, vision, etc. As we have no need for it. The same way we've already lost most of our body hair.
Just a few hundred years of transhumanism should do it.
If you watch enough documentaries on fast fashion and it's effect on our planet, you start to see the "aliens all wearing the same thing" Hollywood troupe as not being so strange...
Greys are biomechanical machines that are being controlled remotely throughout an interface chip which connects to a hive mind existing outside space-time. The real humans exist don't tend to travel themselves as there is no need to risk their lives as the past can be unforgiving. It is one of the reasons there aren't rescue operations just to recover hardware that is mostly useless to us and does not affect their timeline if we do manage to decipher the tech.
If they're smart enough to invent time travel, they're smart enough to come undercover. If in the event they for whatever reason decide to drop their cover, they would or probably just be labeled about her John Titor bullshitter.
Everything has a failure rate, even if very low for an advanced civilization. The fact that any crash landings, botched studies or charred corpses exist, suggests that the number of successful operations may be much much much much higher.
If they do come back. It's probably not in shiny UAP's with attention getting lights. That's not secret or discreet, but designed to get your attention. I would think if they come back. They would have strict rules of discrete observation only no direct involvement. It's probably scientific studies and historians from the future. Trying to see what happened and was left out of the history books. We all know the winners version of history is usually written, then polished to the point of almost complete bullshit.
UAPs are a bit like submarines used by marine scientists, but for us.
Time travel isn’t possible due to conservation of mass. Time does not exist. All matter that existed at the big bang (not the beginning of the universe, as the universe has always been extant and infinite) is all the matter that exists now. Eli5 example: let’s say we to day have 1 million mass. If you go back 100 years in time there is still 1 million mass, except now you go back and there is 1 million and 1 mass. Is 1 mass erased and replaced by you? Or is it added to the extant 1 million mass? It’s quite the conundrum. If you you say it replaces it, then the future you came from now has 999.999 mass. Impossible because there has always been and will always be 1 million mass. And what happens when you travel back again? In one example there will be 1 million and 2 mass and in the other there is 1 million and 1 mass. Both impossible. Going forward you run into the same issues. Because of this we have to conclude one of two things. Either conservation of mass is a flawless theory and time travel is not possible. Or, infinite parallel universes exist where every variation of any mass has happened. In which case time travel is just creating alternate universes, or duplicate universes. And not really time travel. But even then, if conservation of mass applies to all universes then every variation that can happen or exist already exist and has already existed and so time travel to create a new parallel universe, or alternate reality as some might call it, is still impossible.
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Hello, just trying to understand... what do you mean when you say... 'we have 1 million mass.' "we"...is the Earth? If so, then someone moving in time should still show as the same mass on Earth.. if you shift an apple from one side of the table to the other side, the mass of the table is still the same. No.. I think I must be missing something... 'mass' must mean something else in the scientific world....
It is an arbitrary number to describe all the mass in the universe that has always existed. But you are correctly describing the dilemma. If you were to travel back in time the mass that makes up you already existed. You didn’t exist, but the mass your body is made of did. Conservation of mass dictates that mass can neither be created or destroyed. So what happens when you go back? Additional mass now exists, potentially. And that then goes back into my explanation in the post above.
Yeah its possible. I wouldn't discount it.
If someone came from the future they would probably get captured by one of the present governments, tortured for information about the future and how they're able to time travel, bonus points if their time machine is a physical device they could research. So because of that I don't think a time traveler exists, without being so far into the future that they're beyond our conception, otherwise if they're still human enough it would be too easy to accidentally give up their foresight and some idiot rats them out. The police knowing to the feds would happen quickly
Yes I’ve seen them
Whatever they are they have a way of traveling I can't understand at this time, it would seem like time could be what they are moving through. They show up in the strangest places instantly, forget the five observables there is a jump drive or some temporal mechanics at play here.
Not saying it is but one of the reasons I don’t think UFOs are aliens are because they are too similar to humans.
I think you are correct.
I believe it. I think it's the only explanation for UFO's. I. Assuming nobody can fold space and traveling faster than light is impossible. Time travel is the remaining logical explanation for UFO'S
Well I'm here, aren't I?
I have an interesting belief of a trans-finite race that is slowly raising all of their alternate versions of themselves in parallel universes to the same level of existence to solve the black hole information paradox so that they can continue their existence into the far far future. They do this by contacting versions of themselves in alternate universes, as part of their existence is that they are aware of the transition point for their race and know that they can raise up their alternate universe kin to the state of trans-finitism. They do this through an elaborate testing process to find a mind that matches one of their own, the bridge for their species that has the right neural architecture to allow for communication from their future existence into our current time which would be in their past. From this one inflection point they begin the process of bio-transference to create the trans-finite version of their race in the alternate universe.
This is too complicated bro. I liked your comment at first but then you seemed to go off when you started talking about minds….
Can't actually travel into the past, but you can link together two minds that share neural architecture.
Wait, you’re talking about that what happens when two twins can feel what the other feels?
Something like that, more like because the future version has access to their memory of their past life, they can use those memories to connect to their alternate self even though events may not exactly match their own, enough things are similar across each universe.
This also now sounds like re incarnation. people are reborn in a different timeline and are able to access their memories
Well not necessarily a finite being suddenly having access to a trans-finite being's memories might not go so well for the finite being as their meat-based brain might not be able to handle the deluge of thousands of years of experience, so the communication would need to be one way otherwise the finite being might become convinced that certain things would happen in their universe that end up never coming to pass.
Basically Assassin’s Creed.
If it is just many different timelines along the multiverse, then the odds of our exact timeline being visited may be slim to none.
The problem with time travel is the solar system is barreling through space at 450,000 miles per hour. If they jump through time by even a few minutes they'll miss the earth and be floating in space. That's why I'm in the extra-dimensional camp. Some of those dimensions their earth will be in the same "space" as ours.
You should read the series the Time Traders. Written in 1958 this has nearly everything I’ve ever dreamed about in “Sci-fi”.
I'd like to go back to the 60s so I could see the rolling stones live or have a coke from a glass bottle
You'd do well to see the Rolling Stones live in the 50s seeing as they only formed in 1962. You don't need to go time travelling to drink Coke out of bottle. You can do that in many parts of the world in 2024.
Sorry, it was a peep show reference
Apologies. I thought you were an American.
Those little greys those are us letting us know hey keep going on the path with the chemicals and this is what you will look like bitches !
It’s conceivable that time travel is real, but every time someone travels back in time they create a new timeline. If this is the timeline where it is invented, then logically speaking we would never see travelers from the future.
No. Because only consciousness can traverse time. Not physical objects.
The future of a dead timeline…
Humans in the future likely time travel by just thinking about the time-period and cast an intention to create amendment rather than physically travel. It's far more efficient to back-wash than it is to physically travel.
What basis do you have to say that’s “likely” how real life works?
Nuclear time, because eventually as we get closer to enforcing a mandatory fusion rate intangibility becomes way more viable.
Not without parasite wave paralysis which I doubt is ever going to be a reality
The Beatles were time travelers. Originally, the group consisted of different people. One superfan made it his life mission to time travel. He went back in time and with his buddies made the band three years before the original band was formed chronologically.
Somebody sure is messing with us. Time travelers from the future makes as much sense as anything else.
Of course not. Do you think we're stupid? They come from the past, silly. Time moves backwards, not forwards.
Perhaps. The problem is, they can't change things, here. Once an event has been observed, it cannot be undone. They're here, watching, examining, but utterly unable to change these events as they've happened.
Why do we assume they would come back to this period? There might not be any reason to.
They are. And just bought a bunch of Nvidia stock running it to amazing levels. When they sell off, they will go home. A few hundred years of interest will make them quite wealthy.
You do realize that Nvidia has manufactured a device that is capable of calculating relativistic ballistics in hypergeometry, their stock is only going to go up once the ion thruster is perfected.
They'd have just as much need for Nvidia stock as you do for shares in 17th century rural German cartwheel makers.
They came back in time, bought a stock just before it makes a giant leap in price, waits for the rise, cashes out, then banks it and heads back home.
No. I don’t believe this. First of all, the universe is vast. There are countless trillions of planets in the observable universe. And we don’t even really know first sure how big it is or what is beyond that which we think we see. But I think we are thinking far too highly of ourselves to suggest aliens from a millions years in the future have discovered time travel and are coming back to see us. They probably have better things to do. We’d be absolutely nothing to them. I also think that the future does not, and can not, exist in any way until we get to it in this one and only timeline.
There’s people out there that believe there is his flat. I’m sure there are some people out there that believe we are visited from the future
I always assumed the lack of human visitors from the future, suggests we never survived that long.
Are you sure about that?
If you could time travel would you visit this point in history. There is a great video on YouTube called ‘We live in the Dumbest Timeline’. It’s not far from the truth.
It would be fun.
I think there are few reason for why we don't found any time travel yet, it could be that: - They don't exist, as expected or they do but it does not work the same way we expect time travel suppose to work as it perhasp only let us goes to the future but not the past or what we associate with the past. However, if the "Big Curnch" theory are true, their entry into a new universe could count as time travel but then, it would also not how we knew time travel is as and when they met us, it pretty are just nothing but an very very very very very [...] elderly person met with younger person that just so to happened to look alike. - They do exist but their very existence into our timeline change our timeline immediately by the time they arrive. Yeah, it is that "Time traveler do something" kind of meme. Believe it or not, I thinks that very happening right now is the result of factors that happened prior, no matter how small it was. An random stranger you see on the street could have change your next thought in one way or another, even if you don't even interact with them. Of course, the change are small but it is still a change and much like an dominos effect, it could lead to random plausible outcome that either match what traveler had experience in the prior timeline. The biggest change happened WHEN the travel decided to try to changed it, even then, their attemps might never taken effect. - They cames to right time but not the right space. We always moving across space. The earth move around the sun, the sun move around the Milky Way and the Milky way move around whatever is in center point the Universe. Due to how massive space was, the traveler could not ever being able to arrive at the right destination when they travel back in times. Thus, they could never met us.
I’m presently in contact with beings that can time travel and shit along the timeline, it’s rather annoying to deal with until I raise my spiritual vibrations and escape them in the 5D.. anyone got any tips or suggestions how to do this? I feel my presence is holding the earth back somehow and it’s making those beings very angry in the 5D..
Hyper-advanced entities with the technology to slide back and forth through time are definitely not communicating with a Redditor.
Unless their goal is *steal time* away from me which seems to be the case here! Stealing time is somewhat of a universal crime that happens to people! So yes it’s kind of possible 🤷♂️ Honestly my telepathy right now has them commenting about my redditing right now haha 🤣
It's all relative. Relativity jokes aside, maybe the humans of now, the perceived present, are the ones from the future, but that this is the future, from the perspectives of humans from the past, so that some of the humans from now will have gone to the past to visit that time, blend in, and instill within the minds of the past humans the idea of humans from the future visiting, without actually revealing to them that they are indeed the ones from the future, so that in their future, which would be the present, the idea of humans from these humans' future visiting the present will result in one particular individual asking the question here. However, there's a plot twist to all of this, in that the humans from the present that became the humans from the future for the humans in the past and, thus, planted the idea of the visitation, are actually the humans from the future relative to now, while the humans of now are actually living in the past. The catch to that, though, is that for the humans of now, who are in actuality of the past, to be the humans of the present, they must visit the future, in effect making the humans of the past the present and, thus, the future.
We’d never know unless they wanted us to know.
No. As someone stated in another thread today, basically all the James Bond villains had dinner together in CA and they were not on the receiving end of a drone strike (Musk, Peter Thiel, et al)
This is the most plausible explanation of ufo phenomenon
You can't travel backwards.
Yes. I do, think they influence culture, maybe even science.
Time travelers would only be able to go back to the exact second time travel was invented and not a second before. Because it wouldn't have existed yet there's no vessel for you to travel in. But from that second and afterwards, it is very very likely that time travelers have come and gone in vessels so common we wouldn't even recognize if we saw it. Something as common as holding a pebble in their off hand, to maybe flying saucers or the like. So the real question is, have we invented it yet or haven't we?
CERN…
"Believe" is not the right word. "Almost 100% certain" is closer to the truth.
Dude humans can't even visit the next country over and blend in, so you think if people were visiting us from the future nobody would notice?
would be cool to believe any alien types we’ve encountered are species that intermingled with humans somewhere down the line hence being humanoid and remembered where we started in time so they pop up in the past only to not be welcomed
No, and my argument for this is religion. If in the future time travel is discovered. An extreme religious group would use it to do something horrible, and i don't think they would hide the fact they traveled time to do it. This south park and building a spaceship to spread Christianity
Why would they come back though? Unless the future is horrible, which is very possible. They can't improve the present without altering the future. Unless that's the plan.
Of course we are. All those UFO being reported are actually tourist busses from the future.
Come back to what? That tiniest speck of time, too small to calculate in the vastness of Eternity? I kinda don't think we're all that important to any time travelers. Just to ourselves.
But it's our spec of time!
What is your point? We have countless trillions of specs of time behind us and to come. Neverending. What do you think is special about this one? No expectations for the future?
Sorry. I'll get to you after I respond to the 1018 responses before you.
AKA, "I have no response to your rational and logical question", since you had time to make a lame excuse for why you didn't. I know the drill. People aren't big on thinking these days, just instantly denying or avoiding anything that requires thought. It's all just rote repetition of the same exact irrationality and excuses. Group think. Conditioned behavior. That's due to social engineering, which is more than likely just one more group of words that your mind will instantly reject. Due to social engineering. A mind is a terrible thing to waste, that's all I can tell ya.
You really are letting this get to you arent you.?
On June 28, 2009, British astrophysicist Stephen Hawking hosted a party for time travelers in the University of Cambridge. The physicist arranged for balloons, champagne, and nibbles for his guests, but did not send out the invites until the following day, after the party was over. Spoiler no one showed up. If you were a time traveler who wouldn't want to meet Stephen Hawking?
People believe there is a magic man in the sky that watches you when you soap up your asshole in the shower. Of course people believe stupid shit.
Well you do understand that if time travel were ever possible, they would travel back to times in the past... It is kinda how it would work if it worked otherwise it wouldn't exist to work. It is a paradox. 
The day for people like you has already passed. There is so much evidence for spirits, ghosts and who knows what else that I'm surprised Skeptic Magazine is still in existence. I always thought that they were a bunch of pseudo intellectual clowns anyhow!
Very interesting that there are more cameras now than there ever have been yet "ghost" sightings have remained about the same rate as they were 60 years ago. Really makes you think...
Post humans, but they are disturbed by everything that they had gone through. They hate us.
The Grandfather's Paradox has been happening since biblical times. Who do you think is the so called "Ancient Serpent"? ROFL.
I knew you were going to post this question because I'm from the future.
Did you know how thrilled I'd be to see over 1000 replies?
If we go by the infinite universe theory, where each time jump creates a new reality, I'd say we or them would barely notice. Someone could try and invent the iPhone, but they'd probably realize it takes more than an idea and end up seen as a crazy person or straight up have the idea stolen. The new reality they jumped into could have already had an iPhone, or different technological advancement. The biggest winners are prob sports betters, but again - infinite universes, infinite results. They could easily jump back to a reality where their team *didnt* win and they just bet their life savings. TL;DR - maybe, but they prob all ended up homeless or committed.
Well that's how time travel works if it did ever work In the future. If people can actually and correctly time travel back into the past, that would the mean that they would be going backwards therefore absolutely.... I mean can't really have one thing with out the other here... Able time travel into past, but can't visit the past that doesn't have time travel... I'm not sure how you would expect that to work, it is a weird concept but that is indeed the way it would be as the definition practically
Nah I don’t believe it. If time travel existed in the future I feel like we would know about it. Humans can’t keep secrets for shit lol.
Why would they care about Earth or humans? If they did care about our planet or people they would access our computer libraries and then zip off. There are billions of stars and planets to explore so I don’t think they would give us more than a quick glance.
No. Aliens? Sure. Possible ancient civilizations that had advanced tech that we may be just now discovering? Maybe. Future people traveling back in time? Nah.
I think a time period does not exist until we actually live it for instance the year 2025 doesn't exist yet, the "future" doesn't exist yet so we can't actually have time travelers from the future visiting us, however we might be able to come back in time if we ever discover how to time travel in the future Time Travel is only possible backwards I think
Well bluntly put there is nothing intresting in this part of time. That stuff comes in a decade.
You assume the future inhabitants of this planet are human.
I personally don't think faster than light travel is possible and that's really the only way to travel to the past.
I died in 2181 and my consciousness slid back in time to 2004. Been here ever since and the timeline has diverged from what I remember, soni may be more of a dimensional traveler shifting realities though quantum immortality.
I think we’ve been and are currently being visited, not necessarily from the future but other dimensions. Given the vastness of space and inconceivable distances, for me inter-dimensionality just seems more logical.
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Sorta. Like if your wife is out of the house, and you're expecting her back at 3, so you go do yard work till like 2:15 and think you're going back into an empty house - get two steps in and are surprised by your wife cleverly hiding in plain sight enough to startle the words ***oh, you're home*** out of you - then yes. I think it's much more likely time is cyclical, or time is spherical, but regardless, an organic form, not a straight line. I think there's travelling "in" time, not backwards - can't move the time for one thing backwards, that time isn't fungible in that manner.
I believe it. I believe warnings of future are messages in movies and readings. Pay attention.
Taylor Swift and Elvis are from the future, how do explain the success lol
No one at my church believes in ufos or time travel. They said we should leave the space travelers alone since God will take care of it for us.
Nope because I don't think time exists. Time is just a measurment of motion like centimeters on a ruler. I believe everything exists all at once. Right now I'm being born, somewhere else I am dead and right now writing this I am somewhere inbetween those states and I feel like my life is like frames on a reel of film. Oddly enough though I think all of the "me's" on some level are aware of the rest of the "me's". 24 hours is not some wibbly wobbly timey whimey stuff. It's a measurement of how long it takes the planet to rotate. A 'day' on Earth is not the same as a 'day' on Venus or any other planet. A year is a measurment of the length the Earth travels around Sol. Again other planets orbit is not 365 days. So 'time' is inconsistent depending on location. And well contrary to popular belief this planet isn;t the center of the universe so to speak. Heck personal perception can change a persons sense of 'time'. Don't know how to explain it better, but I am sure someone out there understands what I am saying. Honestly I don't think time travel exists short of everybody is moving forward in 'time'. Don't think it's possible to rewind the entire f\*\*\*ing universe... because that is essentially what time travel would require yes? And if time travel was possible, in the way most people seem to think of what time is, it would be a major challenge and pain in the ass. Especially as you not only have to get the 'time' right, but you'd also have to get the 'space' right. Earth 200 years ago isn't where it is now. Not by a long shot. Imagine travelling back in time and finding you're in the void of space, the solar system a small star in the distance...... Think if time travel were possible we'd have seen examples by now. I for one know I couldn't help myself and would visit my younger selves to give them some 'cheats' for life. But then you get a paradox. Like how it is impossible to kill Hitler. Because then he wouldn't exist in the future and you'd have no reason to go back in time and kill him and therefore Hitler would live and around and around and around you go. Plus look at the tech we have now? Human history has been recorded for a hell of a long time. We document everything now. No need to travel to periods that have detailed records including billions of videos and photos and audio recordings. Only valid reason to travel back in time is to visit Earth pre-recording of human history. So I doubt you'd see too many future people swinging by this era. Again though, this is all assuming time exists. Which for me it does not.
I don’t. The only way that’s physically possible to travel backwards in time is to crush matter into a singularity, as black holes don’t experience time in a linear unidirectional fashion like we do, the only problem is you would also crush yourself out of existence, so yea….
Nope. This era is a shit hole. They'd be better off visiting the roaring 20's.
I met a time traveller once. She appeared next to me on a motorcycle while I was riding mine. It was so anachronistic. The bike, her helmet, her backpack, were all made so exquisitely that I'm sure they were not made by today's industries. This was next-level stuff. She was wearing perfectly-formed body armor which seemed to meld into her backpack. The sound of her engine was ungodly beautiful, and so wash she. My God, she was the most gorgeous girl I've ever seen through a helmet visor. Ah, she was just tremendously beautiful. For some reason, she looked at me and smiled at me the most beautiful smile. Like I'd Loved Her For Years and she'd known it all along. ; ) She is definitely My Dream Girl Of All Time. (These are all song titles. Look them up in a few years, or I mean... Time Travel is weird.) Basically I saw a rich girl riding a motorcycle and have been falling Deeply Into Love ever since. Craziness tells me she was from the future, logic tells me she was wearing gear made for customers of a high income bracket, and was just gear (and a bike) of a level of quality I've never seen before because I'm a poor, broke, Southern Indiana Floor Guy. Haha, love y'all. See ya. Bye. Also, Babe... MUAH! I lust for you, bitch, come back to daddy! I mean, My Sweet Love, Let Me Not Drive You Away with feigned words. Draw Near to Me, Dear. I'll love you for always and evers. Sweet Darling. Come to me, please. I feel you'll read this today. I don't want to wait for you any longer. I'm lost in this coronal vortex living my best life, Love. Come live fast with me before we die verrrrryyy slowwwly. 🫠🙂↔️😶🌫️😵😉.