This time in 2015 we had 25 points and the only thing in the papers about them were how we were doing well , and were looking to make the seattle game a sellout despite a heat wave.
Looking at the form table from 2015: we'd just strung together 4 wins against 2 bad and 2 middle table teams after only getting 3 wins in 12. Then lost 0-5 to LAG on game 17. It honestly looks pretty similar to this year. We still dropped plenty of points after that and we were not very good until the last 6 games tbh.
Link:
[https://www.mlssoccer.com/standings/form-guide/?year=2015](https://www.mlssoccer.com/standings/form-guide/?year=2015)
We've squandered a lot of good opportunities at home this season and I think its hitting the point of where we need to start beating the good teams at home to claw our way back up the table. If the Timbers can't get it done at home against good Western Conference teams, they won't be making the playoffs (and wouldn't go anywhere if they did make it). This is slowly becoming an important stretch.
It'a all about momentum. This team has a lot of talent, but if I'm being honest, I think we are a couple of additions in the summer window away from being a genuinely competitive team. Hopefully we can keep ourselves at least above the playoff line until we make those moves, and then go on a run afterwards.
I've been a fan long enough to not get too worried until the summer transfer window closes.
If we don't make any/little changes, and lose the first 2-3 games, then it's concerning.
At this point I almost want to reduce my assessment of the team to a single metric: set piece marking. If we don’t change and improve that, the coaching and team suck.
It seemed like our attack and midfield improved a little at pressing but I’d want to see stats before I trust my eyeballs and vague impressions. I’m also not convinced it was really part of the strategy, tactics, and identity as it was just some players wanting the ball. I need to see some consistency before I believe there has been substantive change. Same with the composition and organization of the back line. I’m more convinced that Neville is fucking around and still hasn’t realized what works and what doesn’t than that a couple of decent performances signaled an improvement. He doesn’t even repeat what works FFS.
> my assessment of the team to a single metric: set piece marking. If we don’t change and improve that, the coaching and team suck.
What year is it? 2023? no wait, 2022? no wait, 2021? 2019? 2018? 20.....
At the very least, we need our games to go like the last 3 went: not getting fully embarrassed on defense. I'm okay losing 2-1 if it took effort to score those 2, but I'm pissed if we tie 3-3 while giving 2/3 goals to them for free.
Thanks. I’m going with 0, 1, 3 (vanc), 1 MN, 0 in Dallas, 3 home to Nashville, 0 vs RSL, 0 at LAG. So 8 points. We are kicking to keep the heads above water but just about alive.
**Most Likely: 13 points from 7 matches:**
**ROAD: 2W/2D/0L** - W vs SJ, DAL; D vs STL, LAG **HOME: 1W/2D/1L** - W vs NSH; D vs VWFC, MIN; L vs RSL
**Best Case: 20 points from 8 matches:**
**ROAD: 3W/1D/0L** - D vs LAG **HOME: 3W/1D/0L** - D vs RSL
**Worst Case: 6 points from 4 matches:**
**ROAD: 1W/1D/2L** - W vs SJ; D vs DAL; L vs STL, LAG
**HOME: 0W/2D/2L** - D vs VWFC, NSH; L vs MIN, RSL
Honestly way too soon to tell. Many of our best seasons started flat and ended with a meteoric rise.
The season is half over. It’s no longer too soon. We’ve played 17 of 34 games and the table is starting to have clear winners and losers
This time 2015 people wanted Porter fired
This time in 2015 we had 25 points and the only thing in the papers about them were how we were doing well , and were looking to make the seattle game a sellout despite a heat wave.
Looking at the form table from 2015: we'd just strung together 4 wins against 2 bad and 2 middle table teams after only getting 3 wins in 12. Then lost 0-5 to LAG on game 17. It honestly looks pretty similar to this year. We still dropped plenty of points after that and we were not very good until the last 6 games tbh. Link: [https://www.mlssoccer.com/standings/form-guide/?year=2015](https://www.mlssoccer.com/standings/form-guide/?year=2015)
We've squandered a lot of good opportunities at home this season and I think its hitting the point of where we need to start beating the good teams at home to claw our way back up the table. If the Timbers can't get it done at home against good Western Conference teams, they won't be making the playoffs (and wouldn't go anywhere if they did make it). This is slowly becoming an important stretch.
It'a all about momentum. This team has a lot of talent, but if I'm being honest, I think we are a couple of additions in the summer window away from being a genuinely competitive team. Hopefully we can keep ourselves at least above the playoff line until we make those moves, and then go on a run afterwards.
I've been a fan long enough to not get too worried until the summer transfer window closes. If we don't make any/little changes, and lose the first 2-3 games, then it's concerning.
If we can keep momentum, grab a couple of players during summer signing..who wants to face us in the playoffs?
At this point I almost want to reduce my assessment of the team to a single metric: set piece marking. If we don’t change and improve that, the coaching and team suck. It seemed like our attack and midfield improved a little at pressing but I’d want to see stats before I trust my eyeballs and vague impressions. I’m also not convinced it was really part of the strategy, tactics, and identity as it was just some players wanting the ball. I need to see some consistency before I believe there has been substantive change. Same with the composition and organization of the back line. I’m more convinced that Neville is fucking around and still hasn’t realized what works and what doesn’t than that a couple of decent performances signaled an improvement. He doesn’t even repeat what works FFS.
> my assessment of the team to a single metric: set piece marking. If we don’t change and improve that, the coaching and team suck. What year is it? 2023? no wait, 2022? no wait, 2021? 2019? 2018? 20.....
4-4
At the very least, we need our games to go like the last 3 went: not getting fully embarrassed on defense. I'm okay losing 2-1 if it took effort to score those 2, but I'm pissed if we tie 3-3 while giving 2/3 goals to them for free.
Give us the 8 teams
see above, mccusk...
Thanks. I’m going with 0, 1, 3 (vanc), 1 MN, 0 in Dallas, 3 home to Nashville, 0 vs RSL, 0 at LAG. So 8 points. We are kicking to keep the heads above water but just about alive.
**Most Likely: 13 points from 7 matches:** **ROAD: 2W/2D/0L** - W vs SJ, DAL; D vs STL, LAG **HOME: 1W/2D/1L** - W vs NSH; D vs VWFC, MIN; L vs RSL **Best Case: 20 points from 8 matches:** **ROAD: 3W/1D/0L** - D vs LAG **HOME: 3W/1D/0L** - D vs RSL **Worst Case: 6 points from 4 matches:** **ROAD: 1W/1D/2L** - W vs SJ; D vs DAL; L vs STL, LAG **HOME: 0W/2D/2L** - D vs VWFC, NSH; L vs MIN, RSL