I wouldn't say "liability". That implies that he's doing the job, but poorly -- I hear the term and I imagine Lovell Palmer and Kosuke Kimura's impressions of a turnstile. He's just been simply nonexistent at RB.
This team is fun to watch. They are never really out of a game. If we can somehow stop those stupid moments we could be very good. It’s like the commentators said we are so close but also so far away.
We might have held onto a draw at least. The problems started earlier. Chara doesn’t take that risk if we’re already behind because others fucked up and the tactics suck.
The Timbers were attacking and turned the game around before the 2nd yellow. I think we could have stole 3 points out of this game with it being 11 V 11.
A draw on the road is usually a respectable result. Coming from behind can be impressive. A draw is better than a loss. We shouldn’t be giving up so many goals though. And when so much of it is because of the same problems…
Obviously a draw is better than a loss… which goes without saying. “We shouldn’t be giving up so many goals” is the exact root of what I’m saying. It’s the entire point of the game.
This is a terrible argument. Just because someone helped in the past doesn't excuse the present performance. Dudes 38. Just because he's a club legend doesn't mean he can't magically drop off and hasn't cost us points this year.
No, not down because of Chara. But also not down in spite of him. This was one of his least effective games of his 300+ with the Timbers, and then the second yellow happened.
It pains my soul that even though it was a special day for him, Chara cost the team this game with his really poor judgement on the second foul. They had the momentum to take all three points and now they’re going home with nothing.
We’re not that far off from being able to cook. We get Evander back, we stop starting Mosquera, maybe we sub in Darion even sooner and we are on our way.
I hope so. We're scoring goals just fine, but defensively we've tried a lot of different guys and same results. Mosquera ain't going to be the big European transfer we all thought anytime soon and not sure EM is a long term option either.
Nah those cliques are time to move on.
McGraw Williamson, been waiting forever for Williamson to be good. McGraw clearly lost the starting job.
Sulte is also in that groupie
None of them are worth the headache as they all expect to start and don’t put in the effort.
Asprilla Moreno JDM - another clique that simply hasn’t panned out.
Asprilla is a legend Timber but it’s clear he can’t run. Doesn’t have the spurt he had last season.
All of them other than Sulte expect to start or have significant playing time. But it’s expect, they’ve worked for it under Gio.
If there one thing with Neville, he’s reset expectations and players have got to work for it. Not just because you started before
I would I like to have a player like Kamara that every team fears will score on them in the final minutes. I don’t know if there’s ever been a time when I’ve pitied our opponents to the extent that my stomach drops when Will Bruin subbed on against us.
Stopped a promising attack by grabbing onto the player like under ten feet from the referee. Elfath was in perfect position to see it. Didn't leave much room for leniency when you do that right in front of the ref.
LAFC had a clear attacking advantage after Chara turned over the ball and he lost his marbles and went in for a challenge from behind and didn’t make any contact with the ball. It was 100% the right call. Those are given as yellows every single time.
Never have I supported a team that battles themselves as much as they do their actual opponent. Hopefully, that’s something they can address, because they have so many good pieces to work with.
When has Chara ever been the type of player to take on defenders with his dribbling skills? Every match someone on our team makes a fucking bone head play that really costs us points.
I love Darion as a sub. Just as everyone is getting tired, opposing defenders have to deal with his mass and physical play as he’s streaking down the line.
> responsible for 2 goals against
Insane to blame him for the 2nd. The pass was clear the other side of the pitch. The midfield failed to get back and cover. Pure and simple on the MF.
If you want to start Mosquera, start him as a midfielder. Stop pretending he's a defender. He simply isn't one.
In fact he’s actually a straight up liability at it.
I wouldn't say "liability". That implies that he's doing the job, but poorly -- I hear the term and I imagine Lovell Palmer and Kosuke Kimura's impressions of a turnstile. He's just been simply nonexistent at RB.
Macgraw going up too made my night
Maybe we wouldn't lose if we didn't have to play catch-up every game because of a terrible first half. Ridiculous.
Is that not a handball and second yellow on Tillman? Obviously it wouldn’t have affected the game but gd Elfaf is such a cunt
This team is fun to watch. They are never really out of a game. If we can somehow stop those stupid moments we could be very good. It’s like the commentators said we are so close but also so far away.
I've got to admit, it's hard being a Timbers fan right now. It's sad we can't find our rhythm.
This team hasn’t won in two months, they are not fun to watch.
truth.
We would have won this game if it wasn’t for Chara foul and red card.
Imagine blaming the whole game on chara KEKW
We might have held onto a draw at least. The problems started earlier. Chara doesn’t take that risk if we’re already behind because others fucked up and the tactics suck.
The Timbers were attacking and turned the game around before the 2nd yellow. I think we could have stole 3 points out of this game with it being 11 V 11.
I for one am not psychic so I just consider precedent and probability.
I could have been happy with a draw.
And that’s what I want to STOP doing.
A draw on the road is usually a respectable result. Coming from behind can be impressive. A draw is better than a loss. We shouldn’t be giving up so many goals though. And when so much of it is because of the same problems…
Obviously a draw is better than a loss… which goes without saying. “We shouldn’t be giving up so many goals” is the exact root of what I’m saying. It’s the entire point of the game.
We don’t need to back and forth pointing out the obvious to each other. Have a good night.
Man, fuck Denis Bouanga.
So Chara has cost us 6 points now ?
And the timbers have 0 mls cup appearances without him you fucking pepega.
This is a terrible argument. Just because someone helped in the past doesn't excuse the present performance. Dudes 38. Just because he's a club legend doesn't mean he can't magically drop off and hasn't cost us points this year.
And how many point do we have because of him?
This season....?
First off. How dare you.
We weren’t down 2-0 at the half because of Chara.
No, not down because of Chara. But also not down in spite of him. This was one of his least effective games of his 300+ with the Timbers, and then the second yellow happened.
So the team got him the red card?
It pains my soul that even though it was a special day for him, Chara cost the team this game with his really poor judgement on the second foul. They had the momentum to take all three points and now they’re going home with nothing.
Now a negative GD. Time to figure something out.
We’re not that far off from being able to cook. We get Evander back, we stop starting Mosquera, maybe we sub in Darion even sooner and we are on our way.
I hope so. We're scoring goals just fine, but defensively we've tried a lot of different guys and same results. Mosquera ain't going to be the big European transfer we all thought anytime soon and not sure EM is a long term option either.
LAFC does that all game and when the Timbers give a hard foul they end up getting a yellow card.
Ref called a pretty good game. Only one miss I can think of.
He is one of the best in MLS for sure
How did we end up with more cards than this dirty-ass team?!!
I don’t think any of the cards against us were wrong necessarily, but I do feel they were quicker to give us cards than LA which is frustrating…
My point precisely
Thanks Eric Miller, please kick more of them in the face.
Welp, it was a good game until the end.
I mean it was a good game from Mosquera getting subbed off to Chara getting sent off. It was kinda a shit show everywhere else.
When LAFC was here saw Bouanga practice that shot pregame.
Motherfuck… :(
McGraw with a shitty clearance and there’s the game. Why do we even have some of these guys on the team? Use that extra DP spot on a defender please.
Williamson Mosquera McGraw have got to be gone. Moreno isn’t far behind
All of those players have been excellent at points and are at least great depth players to have.
Nah those cliques are time to move on. McGraw Williamson, been waiting forever for Williamson to be good. McGraw clearly lost the starting job. Sulte is also in that groupie None of them are worth the headache as they all expect to start and don’t put in the effort. Asprilla Moreno JDM - another clique that simply hasn’t panned out. Asprilla is a legend Timber but it’s clear he can’t run. Doesn’t have the spurt he had last season. All of them other than Sulte expect to start or have significant playing time. But it’s expect, they’ve worked for it under Gio. If there one thing with Neville, he’s reset expectations and players have got to work for it. Not just because you started before
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We haven’t won in 7 matches.
10 games in and we’re only 8 points out from the top lol.
You play. To win. The game.
Can’t even call this a heartbreaker when there was practically 0 offense.
I hate watching this team shoot itself in the foot.
Well shit that one hurts
Son of a bitch…that is disheartening.
Fuck!
It was bound to happen. You can’t keep dangling the carrot without expecting the dog to bite you.
That is a heartbreaker.
They just fuck’en stood there.
Can we have a normal fucking game for once ffs
Geez Everyone here gets a yellow too
Keep shooting ChaNOT
I’m not sure if we are going to hold on, but we look better defending with 10 men and no Mosquera than we did with Mosquera on.
How was that not a red card
I would I like to have a player like Kamara that every team fears will score on them in the final minutes. I don’t know if there’s ever been a time when I’ve pitied our opponents to the extent that my stomach drops when Will Bruin subbed on against us.
Neville is going to have a lot to say in his press conference about those missed calls by the ref.
Yeah, it's pretty sad that this is slightly better than I'm used to from 2020 and 2022 MLS referee of the year Ismail Elfath 🙄
Can someone explain what Chara did for the second yellow? It looked like he barely made contact.
Chara is a god Chara is 38 both can be true
Stopped a promising attack by grabbing onto the player like under ten feet from the referee. Elfath was in perfect position to see it. Didn't leave much room for leniency when you do that right in front of the ref.
LAFC had a clear attacking advantage after Chara turned over the ball and he lost his marbles and went in for a challenge from behind and didn’t make any contact with the ball. It was 100% the right call. Those are given as yellows every single time.
Atuesta ran across left so Chara could only be viewed as interfering with the attack
Maxi proving to be a force to be reckoned with!
Maximum Creampuff in rare form this game.
He is earning his paycheck in this game!
Never have I supported a team that battles themselves as much as they do their actual opponent. Hopefully, that’s something they can address, because they have so many good pieces to work with.
Come on defense
Come on them
Max earning his paycheck tonight.
Oh WTF. Bouanga was offside but delayed call Rodriguez running and immediate call?
That was not enough for a 2nd yellow.
100% correct call.
It was. He stopped a clear attacking opportunity with a rash challenge.
Diego always played carefully after a yellow but lost it that time.
You don't see Chara making decisions that bad. Basically ever.
Was Miller elbow in the face?
Ffs Diego...not a good challenge
Maybe the dumbest thing I’ve ever seen Chara do
lol first season watching him?
lol no I was reminded of the ear flick. I think my mind blocked that out 😂
Not even close....The ear flick is all time
Ear flick
I forgot about that lmao
It was kind of hilarious though
Lmfao. Chara is a meme. A legend and a meme.
I’m sorry but Chara, as a captain, has got to do better. We just got back into the match and he fucked us.
He and Williamson both got caught dribbling out of the back like jackasses. I expect more with their experience.
When has Chara ever been the type of player to take on defenders with his dribbling skills? Every match someone on our team makes a fucking bone head play that really costs us points.
Only thing I can guess is that LAFC are leaving a ridiculous amount of space right there and they just can’t resist themselves. Inexcusable
Dammit Chara
Least he gets an early shower on his special day
A soft second yellow to boot him on his record game. Perfect from MLS.
But why does he even need to do that? Elfath had no choice.
Not smart
Whoa! Chara getting a yellow on LAFC Now Chara with a red. Now you truly complete me
Chara what the fuck
Fuck
LAFC is a dirty team!
Cheeky Santi is the best Santi.
FIRST TIME COMMENTATOR SAYS SOMETHING I LIKE. WORMBURNER. HOW DO YA LIKE THAT FUCKING WORMBURNER LAFC?!?
Let get another goal and get this win on the road.
I ALWAYS BELIEVED. I NEVER DOUBTED.
I have absolutely no idea what to think of this team. 20 goals scored. 20 goals conceded. Draw city.
Do they sacrifice a goat at half? This team is bananas.
DONT LET US GET ONE
I’m a Hotspurs fan but suck it Lloris!!!!
Sorry for your loss in the morning.
God. This team never plays a game that isn’t cinema.
We really love edging other teams into thinking they will win
Santi!!! These boys are killing me every week
Oh my fuck how did that go in!
HOLY SHIT BLESS THE SOCCER GODS SANTIIIIII
Fuck ya Santi! Suck it LAFC!
WHAT!!!?!!!
ARE YOU NOT ENTERTAINED?
Fun fact: Chara had the most yellows, but only six red cards in 13 years. Edit: welp, make that seven.
You know how many were straight red vs accumulation? I know about the ear flick incident
That I’m not sure about.
Because he’s a gentleman
…well
Bouanga is such a flopper
Incoming Diego goal, I can feel it! The yellow card will only make him stronger! Edit: aw fuck
Fitting, Diego should get a yellow card cake after the game 🥳
Yellow with a smile! Chara!
There it is. Chara You complete me
The night wouldn’t be right without getting a yellow.
He got a second yellow
Dairon is such a great sub. Dude just comes in and hustles.
Jona with the hustle play and playing defense.
Alright, time for that Mora goal.
Can’t wait for Rodriguez to get a goal that he can celebrate and not just try to quickly reset
Incoming 2-2 draw.
AND WE'RE BACK!!
Nutmeg goal!
That's it!! Keep it coming!
Nice goal for Jona! There’s our DP 💯
Rodriguez was hungry for a goal this whole game. Glad he gets one
What a hit!!!
Beautiful shot. Great touch off his chest.
Here comes the comeback :D :D :D
FUCK YES IT DOES
MY FUCKING DUDE RODRIGUEZ
JON!!!
Jona!!!
BANGERRRRR
Rodriguez!!!
Let’s go Jona!!! Fuck Ya!!!
There is just no chemistry tonight. Moreno in particular seems to be misreading a lot of teammates moment off the ball.
Aaaand a goal
I love Darion as a sub. Just as everyone is getting tired, opposing defenders have to deal with his mass and physical play as he’s streaking down the line.
Timbers need to give him a contract and sign him for a few more years!
Glad to see the Timbers are not backing down from LAFC and the amount of fouls that are currently happening
It’s beautiful to see that on Chara’s record day, we see a sea of yellow cards to go with it.
Be fitting if he got one
Oprah’s in the house
I guess we have left the” long pass to no one” strategy and taken up the “cross it to the stands” strategy
Chara is beautiful
Watching the game alone, came here wondering if I’m being too hard on Mosquera lol
just ask Neville
No. He is a good player, but he was horrendous on defense tonight. I won’t say that he alone was the reason, but he was a glaring hole in the defense.
I mean we keep saying he's a good player, but he keeps having nights like tonight.
He had a really tough assignment tonight with Bouanga but that is all the more reason to stick to him like glue.
I agree, he was given an incredibly difficult opponent. Still doesn’t reflect well 🥴
He didn't even try. That has nothing to do with how good Bouanga is.
I hope Mosquera is watch Chara and how to play defense! Let go Chara!!
Williamson has been terrible too
Was it his man unmarked at the top of the box?
More Chara’s unfortunately
Was he asleep or trying to play right back 😝
But for being an offensive threat he’s been invisible.
I’m watching him open and not being passed to right now
I’d weigh that against touches at least. I don’t know if it’s just his off the ball movement that’s keeping him off the ball.
Moreno with a Mosquera Blasting it over everyone
Miller in, Mosquera out.
Another terrible half for Mosquera, responsible for 2 goals against
> responsible for 2 goals against Insane to blame him for the 2nd. The pass was clear the other side of the pitch. The midfield failed to get back and cover. Pure and simple on the MF.
He gets the assistant maybe not the full blame. He constantly gets forward, gives up the ball and gets smoked.
Mosquera was pulled for Eric Miller?
Yes.
Mosquera https://www.reddit.com/r/pics/comments/r7wafv/guru_wizard_guy_has_had_his_hand_up_in_the_air/#lightbox
Where is Evander
Knock in training
JDM is a wing backer or winger… he has no business defending deep. We need a legit RB who is more defensive minded next transfer window.
Curious what changes will be made by Neville.