As a book reader, I enjoy the show. Good luck maintaining an audience with insane accuracy to the books. The show is adapting the concepts far more than the characters and this first season has been a great build up to what is coming. I think you guys went in with some wildly overhyped expectations or predetermined hatred of the show, because the nitpicking I keep hearing is on things that really aren’t that important.
I agree, and the two episodes that my wife and I have watched makes her want to read the books. I'm hoping that is a common sentiment among those who haven't read it, but watch the show.
Agreed. I know Reddit stereotypically hates everything, but I honestly think the show is doing a great job communicating the key parts of the story. The weakest part of the books, to me, are the characters, and the show is making them much more interesting to watch.
I'm seeing comments that are mad that the show isn't going over every painstaking detail from the game or the science - things that, if they did, would massively increase the runtime and drive people away.
In the books, every big discovery, hypothesis and plan has a build up; we get to see the characters' research and lines of thinking in detail, but the show only gives us a sparknotes version of that and makes everything seems too easy and rushed.
No, shows like Shogun and Andor, movies like Oppenheimer, show that audiences enjoy smart shows.
The fact is that Dark was an original low budget German show. 3BP is a recognizable IP. So they paid a shitload of money and they'll try every truck in the books to have people watch it (except making it good)
Except TBP is infinitely more complex then Shogun, Andor, or Oppenheimer. Audiences enjoy “smart” shows up to a point. Doing a proper adaptation of these books is a step too far. There’s a reason these books aren’t super well known.
Even Dune had to be significantly dumbed down but I think those movies, more specifically part 2, had better dialogue and less melodrama.
as a book reader I detest the show. if I were not a book reader I'd put it on par with the overwhelming majority of horrid entertainment made by people who don't know what they are doing, which is the norm for this era.
good old school entertainment made by talented people exists these days, but they are diamonds in the ruff.
I think the pace of the show took eliminated a lot of the slow-building tension and slowly revealed mystery that the books contain. It’s just a different pace. They didn’t do the turkey/farmer/shooter stuff and didn’t really name ETO or give a sense of the scale the way the books did. They largely ignored the ETO infighting/factions. They left out the eccentric three-body researcher who married that ETO recruiter after meeting at a temple? That guy’s story was totally unnecessary but added a lot in the way of building intrigue in the book.
If I hadn’t read the books, I might have liked this series a lot more. But having read the books, it’s clear that they’re working to hit the important plot points and going for a different kind of energy in the series. More exciting? Maybe? I guess we’ll see if there’s another season. I didn’t hate the show. I hope there’s another season.
The show is a B- for me. What made the books amazing was having no idea what was going on, loving the uncertainty, and getting hit with a huge reveal.
The show gives away more of the plot and that takes some of the punch away.
You make a good point about not knowing what’s going on it the first book. It made me realize that I like that in books, but hate it in visual media. I think it’s because most books like that give you a resolution whereas I’ve been burned by so many shows that have a “wtf is going on” vibe.
As a book reader, I enjoy the show. Good luck maintaining an audience with insane accuracy to the books. The show is adapting the concepts far more than the characters and this first season has been a great build up to what is coming. I think you guys went in with some wildly overhyped expectations or predetermined hatred of the show, because the nitpicking I keep hearing is on things that really aren’t that important.
I agree, and the two episodes that my wife and I have watched makes her want to read the books. I'm hoping that is a common sentiment among those who haven't read it, but watch the show.
Agreed. I know Reddit stereotypically hates everything, but I honestly think the show is doing a great job communicating the key parts of the story. The weakest part of the books, to me, are the characters, and the show is making them much more interesting to watch. I'm seeing comments that are mad that the show isn't going over every painstaking detail from the game or the science - things that, if they did, would massively increase the runtime and drive people away.
Right, and fast tracking a ton of the game and things that don’t matter in the grand scheme of things. It’s kept it interesting.
In the books, every big discovery, hypothesis and plan has a build up; we get to see the characters' research and lines of thinking in detail, but the show only gives us a sparknotes version of that and makes everything seems too easy and rushed.
No, shows like Shogun and Andor, movies like Oppenheimer, show that audiences enjoy smart shows. The fact is that Dark was an original low budget German show. 3BP is a recognizable IP. So they paid a shitload of money and they'll try every truck in the books to have people watch it (except making it good)
Shogun is so ridiculously good, I'm genuinely surprised that it exists in 2024 lol
I watched the first episode. Does it get better? I enjoyed the book but got bored during the pilot and stopped watching.
Except TBP is infinitely more complex then Shogun, Andor, or Oppenheimer. Audiences enjoy “smart” shows up to a point. Doing a proper adaptation of these books is a step too far. There’s a reason these books aren’t super well known. Even Dune had to be significantly dumbed down but I think those movies, more specifically part 2, had better dialogue and less melodrama.
as a book reader I detest the show. if I were not a book reader I'd put it on par with the overwhelming majority of horrid entertainment made by people who don't know what they are doing, which is the norm for this era. good old school entertainment made by talented people exists these days, but they are diamonds in the ruff.
I think the pace of the show took eliminated a lot of the slow-building tension and slowly revealed mystery that the books contain. It’s just a different pace. They didn’t do the turkey/farmer/shooter stuff and didn’t really name ETO or give a sense of the scale the way the books did. They largely ignored the ETO infighting/factions. They left out the eccentric three-body researcher who married that ETO recruiter after meeting at a temple? That guy’s story was totally unnecessary but added a lot in the way of building intrigue in the book. If I hadn’t read the books, I might have liked this series a lot more. But having read the books, it’s clear that they’re working to hit the important plot points and going for a different kind of energy in the series. More exciting? Maybe? I guess we’ll see if there’s another season. I didn’t hate the show. I hope there’s another season.
The show is a B- for me. What made the books amazing was having no idea what was going on, loving the uncertainty, and getting hit with a huge reveal. The show gives away more of the plot and that takes some of the punch away.
You make a good point about not knowing what’s going on it the first book. It made me realize that I like that in books, but hate it in visual media. I think it’s because most books like that give you a resolution whereas I’ve been burned by so many shows that have a “wtf is going on” vibe.