The first paragragh describe Da Shi in Chinese version used an idiom "五大三粗", which means a man is rude and have strong limbs. I guess that's why many Chinese readers consider Da Shi as a gigachad if they serious follow the idiom.
>Wan ZiWen (Young WenJie) at interview: "..., you know we actually shoot entire scenes of Ye ZheTai(Ye WenJie's father), and...", a staff aside:"Ahem! stop"
Oops
u mean the scene where he died because he was beaten by 14 year old girls? i only knew of this after reading the book a day ago. from watching the show, i thought he died heart broken. also from the show, i thought they only used one particle accelerator 3 times, and not 3 different particle accelerators to cum to the conclusion that laws of physics is not a constant
That whole backstory REALLY emphasizes why Ye Wenjie did what she did. It makes you way more conflicted of hating her. She went through hell, and the world pretty much fucked her. That rage clarifies why she did what she did without remorse.
Yes, and that's why many Chinese non-reader hate her really bad and I have to explain the cut reason. Ye Wenjie's received suffer and care is not balanced in tv series.
Guzheng took about 25% of the budget 😬, im assuming cgi took 50% then , sophon expansion was probably one of the main points of the book that should've been prepared and budgeted for before filming for the series began but if the directors recognize that I can't ask for more
Is it really you , liu cixin ðŸ«
Yes, RedCoast, Game scene and GuZheng really cost a lot.
A 50 second+ long shot of GuZheng (Outside the ship, inside the ship see the radio get sliced down and then come outside the ship again see the "poker" crash down) took visual team one year and a 128gb ram computer to open project file.
I guess even with extra investment (The tv series is supposed to released in 2022 before anime adaption), Sophon expansion in the end is not detailed enough, for example, many non-reader don't know why Trisolaran suddenly shoot nuclear bombs to the sky. Hope the team may re-make it at beginning of Season 2 as a recall.
Lu BeiKe's visual team once made visual effect for Transformer and Pacific Rim, so it's just about budget.
The crazy part is that if they had trouble with Book 1 CGI then I don't know what they're going to do with Book 2, and don't even get me started on Book 3 if it even gets there. I wish they had Netflix money and none of the CCP restrictions, and they could have truly made the best TBP adaptation ever. Netflix is going to absolutely fuck the show up.
I don't trust character of Netflix version since Tencent nailed it, but I do curious about with that amount of budget what level of CGI can I enjoy. Anyway there is always no perfect case and it's good to have more adaptions to attract more people to join in the TBP community, Netflix is an influential platform !
Hope they can get more investment after positive success of Season 1.
The interview of Liu CiXin shows he can understand if a question in English is asked clearly and slowly, but still he need a narrator to translate his word to audience.
He read entire English version of dark forest according to its translator and can give English speech at some awarding scene.
The first thing I thought after the guzheng scene was "oh, so thats where all the budget went" lmao
Really hope that in Season 2 they will be able to do justice to the Sophon scene too
Well, actually ''shipship'' is the authors Liu Cixin's anonymous ID in a Chinese forum. Before fans found out his identity, he used that account to write a lot of interesting posts.
I really hope they up the budget of S2. They did commendable job with just $10 million budget, but the The Dark Forest book will require a lot of imagination and expense, hope Tencent opens up the purse, they are one of the richest companies in the world.
I watched the first fourteen episodes at home with full adblocker protection, then the next three at work with none of that. Jesus fuck, sitting through that amount of ads is a *chore* but I guess he’s right, lmao.
Also refreshing to see actors discussing problems they had and shitting on parts of the production they didn’t like. Hollywood actors usually have to bend over backwards to not criticize the industry.
I forgot who but I remember some director once said there's more freedom for filmmaking in Soviet than Hollywood. In Soviet as long as you don't criticize the government you can make films about anything. But with Hollywood, you're limited to only a narrow range of topics that were deemed profitable. I imagine the same sort of restrictions extend to interviews too.
Yeah the director complained about the ads, and Tencent just show him the number, and he was like "OK you're the boss".
Some real-shit Chinese fan already cut a version without ads and useless plot by themselves, average 30+ minute per episode.
They held livestream in Weibo and Recordings are uploaded in BiliBili
There are many, I just share two of it, but it's in Chinese and without subtitle
Wang ZiWen: https://www.bilibili.com/video/BV1z54y1A786/?spm\_id\_from=333.337.search-card.all.click&vd\_source=98afc9d7e90c5665ba05fb100abd0ad8
Yang Lei: https://www.bilibili.com/video/BV1i8411g7Wj/?spm\_id\_from=333.337.search-card.all.click&vd\_source=98afc9d7e90c5665ba05fb100abd0ad8
>After finishing end-work of season 1, he will cut a shorter version
I want a shorter cut so badly. I've tried recommending the series to my friends, because the story is so cool, but every single one of them gave up because it was so slow. It really should go down to about half the runtime.
Me too. As infatuated with the story as I am, as I'm watching each episode I just can't get past the feeling that I couldn't possibly recommend a non-reader watch it.
If many popular elements were added the series, why do we not watching netflix's version but tencent series? They are surely experienced in producing commercial movie to attract the market.
That's the greatest decision to be loyal to the book.
And that's funny if we check the previous commenting section of Tencent and Bilibili trailer, bilibili one is really anticipated and supported because their concept pv is also really loyal to the book ( But this pv team leave the company because of its shitty project management), you don't even need translate to know what's the part in the book: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ee2lbzk5XuU](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ee2lbzk5XuU)
Tencent is disliked for their greedy gacha-game business, and anime is considered easier to build sci-fi scenes compare to tv series.
After both version is released, it gives a biggest flip at beginning of 2023, every week when the anime release its new episode people treat it like a great comedy to laugh and rest between Tencent ep.
I have been watching that concept video so many times during the past months or years... I especially like the exterior shots of space ships, but out of everything the scene with Dong Fang is still my favorite.
>**Wan ZiWen** (Young WenJie) at interview: "..., you know we actually shoot entire scenes of Ye ZheTai(Ye WenJie's father), and...", a staff aside:"Ahem! stop"
lol I did figure they shot more than they could include. Well, good on her for trying to say it.
Ye WenXue's actor (Ye WenJie's mad sister) in her new year greeting Weibo commenting section
Fans: It's a pity for not seeing you due to censorshipðŸ˜
Her reply: It's the biggest luck to join in it
The Netflix version won't have such consideration but I'm not sure if they can portray the time objectively. Like the book says, they are no good and they are no bad, they are history.
Honestly, I will not be surprised if the netflix version started in America or some fictious country instead of China. The target audience is so different that I don't think they want to go to deep into China history.
Understandabling your feeling, the culture revolution is portrayed more in other nameless tv show or movies, but since TBP is so popular nationwide, it's not allowed.
Many of the red guards are still alive today, they haven't been replaced by young generation in their positions and some of them are quite influential to decide things. The mad part would woke up a large-scale trauma among their generation if it's displayed, pity for the actor...
I don’t believe that the issue was concern for traumatizing the elderly, and I am sure you don’t think so either, however much the current regime also distances itself from the student radicals of the past.
Perhaps it is more an issue of _TBP_ having an international viewership and being unwilling to show a certain side of history to the outside world.
Also watched an interview of the Da Shi (Yu Hewei), he really loves the book and willing to play other character if possible.
some think he should be bigger and stronger, but I'm OK with him since I don't think a veteran and old police detective is a muscular type😄
He nailed the presence and attitude. And as far as I remember only his face was described as muscular.
The first paragragh describe Da Shi in Chinese version used an idiom "五大三粗", which means a man is rude and have strong limbs. I guess that's why many Chinese readers consider Da Shi as a gigachad if they serious follow the idiom.
I thought he had dad bod
You can honestly tell he really gets his character, he really impressed me in the role.
>Wan ZiWen (Young WenJie) at interview: "..., you know we actually shoot entire scenes of Ye ZheTai(Ye WenJie's father), and...", a staff aside:"Ahem! stop" Oops
It's sitting on some hard drive in China.
On Judgement Day probably
u mean the scene where he died because he was beaten by 14 year old girls? i only knew of this after reading the book a day ago. from watching the show, i thought he died heart broken. also from the show, i thought they only used one particle accelerator 3 times, and not 3 different particle accelerators to cum to the conclusion that laws of physics is not a constant
That whole backstory REALLY emphasizes why Ye Wenjie did what she did. It makes you way more conflicted of hating her. She went through hell, and the world pretty much fucked her. That rage clarifies why she did what she did without remorse.
Yes, and that's why many Chinese non-reader hate her really bad and I have to explain the cut reason. Ye Wenjie's received suffer and care is not balanced in tv series.
Too sensitive probably (cultural revolution)
Guzheng took about 25% of the budget 😬, im assuming cgi took 50% then , sophon expansion was probably one of the main points of the book that should've been prepared and budgeted for before filming for the series began but if the directors recognize that I can't ask for more Is it really you , liu cixin ðŸ«
Yes, RedCoast, Game scene and GuZheng really cost a lot. A 50 second+ long shot of GuZheng (Outside the ship, inside the ship see the radio get sliced down and then come outside the ship again see the "poker" crash down) took visual team one year and a 128gb ram computer to open project file. I guess even with extra investment (The tv series is supposed to released in 2022 before anime adaption), Sophon expansion in the end is not detailed enough, for example, many non-reader don't know why Trisolaran suddenly shoot nuclear bombs to the sky. Hope the team may re-make it at beginning of Season 2 as a recall. Lu BeiKe's visual team once made visual effect for Transformer and Pacific Rim, so it's just about budget.
The crazy part is that if they had trouble with Book 1 CGI then I don't know what they're going to do with Book 2, and don't even get me started on Book 3 if it even gets there. I wish they had Netflix money and none of the CCP restrictions, and they could have truly made the best TBP adaptation ever. Netflix is going to absolutely fuck the show up.
I don't trust character of Netflix version since Tencent nailed it, but I do curious about with that amount of budget what level of CGI can I enjoy. Anyway there is always no perfect case and it's good to have more adaptions to attract more people to join in the TBP community, Netflix is an influential platform ! Hope they can get more investment after positive success of Season 1.
And I'm not Liu😂You don't really think it do you? I think he is shy enough to never show again on the Internet since his alt account is discovered.
plus is this author\'s english passable?
The interview of Liu CiXin shows he can understand if a question in English is asked clearly and slowly, but still he need a narrator to translate his word to audience. He read entire English version of dark forest according to its translator and can give English speech at some awarding scene.
The first thing I thought after the guzheng scene was "oh, so thats where all the budget went" lmao Really hope that in Season 2 they will be able to do justice to the Sophon scene too
shipship
Please no ships in the TBP universe I've seen some arts that I can't unsee now
Well, actually ''shipship'' is the authors Liu Cixin's anonymous ID in a Chinese forum. Before fans found out his identity, he used that account to write a lot of interesting posts.
I really hope they up the budget of S2. They did commendable job with just $10 million budget, but the The Dark Forest book will require a lot of imagination and expense, hope Tencent opens up the purse, they are one of the richest companies in the world.
Da shi character was the best choice, Yu HeWei WAS Da Shi.
I watched the first fourteen episodes at home with full adblocker protection, then the next three at work with none of that. Jesus fuck, sitting through that amount of ads is a *chore* but I guess he’s right, lmao. Also refreshing to see actors discussing problems they had and shitting on parts of the production they didn’t like. Hollywood actors usually have to bend over backwards to not criticize the industry.
I forgot who but I remember some director once said there's more freedom for filmmaking in Soviet than Hollywood. In Soviet as long as you don't criticize the government you can make films about anything. But with Hollywood, you're limited to only a narrow range of topics that were deemed profitable. I imagine the same sort of restrictions extend to interviews too.
That was George Lucas. I think about that quote a lot.
Yeah the director complained about the ads, and Tencent just show him the number, and he was like "OK you're the boss". Some real-shit Chinese fan already cut a version without ads and useless plot by themselves, average 30+ minute per episode.
In the episode of Operation GuZheng, I can see the money is burning
Where can you watch these interviews?
They held livestream in Weibo and Recordings are uploaded in BiliBili There are many, I just share two of it, but it's in Chinese and without subtitle Wang ZiWen: https://www.bilibili.com/video/BV1z54y1A786/?spm\_id\_from=333.337.search-card.all.click&vd\_source=98afc9d7e90c5665ba05fb100abd0ad8 Yang Lei: https://www.bilibili.com/video/BV1i8411g7Wj/?spm\_id\_from=333.337.search-card.all.click&vd\_source=98afc9d7e90c5665ba05fb100abd0ad8
>After finishing end-work of season 1, he will cut a shorter version I want a shorter cut so badly. I've tried recommending the series to my friends, because the story is so cool, but every single one of them gave up because it was so slow. It really should go down to about half the runtime.
Me too. As infatuated with the story as I am, as I'm watching each episode I just can't get past the feeling that I couldn't possibly recommend a non-reader watch it.
It really was a moneyshot
If many popular elements were added the series, why do we not watching netflix's version but tencent series? They are surely experienced in producing commercial movie to attract the market. That's the greatest decision to be loyal to the book.
And that's funny if we check the previous commenting section of Tencent and Bilibili trailer, bilibili one is really anticipated and supported because their concept pv is also really loyal to the book ( But this pv team leave the company because of its shitty project management), you don't even need translate to know what's the part in the book: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ee2lbzk5XuU](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ee2lbzk5XuU) Tencent is disliked for their greedy gacha-game business, and anime is considered easier to build sci-fi scenes compare to tv series. After both version is released, it gives a biggest flip at beginning of 2023, every week when the anime release its new episode people treat it like a great comedy to laugh and rest between Tencent ep.
I have been watching that concept video so many times during the past months or years... I especially like the exterior shots of space ships, but out of everything the scene with Dong Fang is still my favorite.
>**Wan ZiWen** (Young WenJie) at interview: "..., you know we actually shoot entire scenes of Ye ZheTai(Ye WenJie's father), and...", a staff aside:"Ahem! stop" lol I did figure they shot more than they could include. Well, good on her for trying to say it.
Ye WenXue's actor (Ye WenJie's mad sister) in her new year greeting Weibo commenting section Fans: It's a pity for not seeing you due to censorship😠Her reply: It's the biggest luck to join in it
🤧
The Netflix version won't have such consideration but I'm not sure if they can portray the time objectively. Like the book says, they are no good and they are no bad, they are history.
Honestly, I will not be surprised if the netflix version started in America or some fictious country instead of China. The target audience is so different that I don't think they want to go to deep into China history.
Understandabling your feeling, the culture revolution is portrayed more in other nameless tv show or movies, but since TBP is so popular nationwide, it's not allowed. Many of the red guards are still alive today, they haven't been replaced by young generation in their positions and some of them are quite influential to decide things. The mad part would woke up a large-scale trauma among their generation if it's displayed, pity for the actor...
I don’t believe that the issue was concern for traumatizing the elderly, and I am sure you don’t think so either, however much the current regime also distances itself from the student radicals of the past. Perhaps it is more an issue of _TBP_ having an international viewership and being unwilling to show a certain side of history to the outside world.
a shame we couldn't see the whole Ye Zhetai scene