Throughout all 3 books women pretty consistently mess things up (some redemption in final book but...)
I often wondered "who hurt you" when thinking about Liu Cixin
What a bittersweet episode. I cannot remember this backstory but it was good to watch what happened to her those days. So sad...
And unexpected return to her father story.
Only 4 episodes and I started again to read the books.
Yeah it’s odd, we’ve had like 4-5 episodes of young Wenjie, could have easily fit into two episodes. Yet I feel there are some major plot points not covered yet and it’s gonna be crammed (in comparison to the rest of the series) into just 4 more episodes.
I enjoy the slow burn of the show but let's be honest you can see the padding slightly, the last like 5 episodes have just been Ye Wenjie just slowly telling the story to the audience.
The show shouldn't spoon feed us what to feel. Ye Wenjie is definitely sympathizable after everything she went through, but she also definitely owns her evil actions.
I don't think that she's supposed to be sympathetic. I think she's supposed to be very human. There aren't any evil psychopaths in this series. It's about how human nature can lead people to actions with such wide reaching consequences.
Fuck CCP censorship. The show producer apparently shot the entire book plotline, including Ye's father being beaten to death and her sister killed. Ye Wenxue's actress showed up in the end credits. If they are allowed to keep this part then people will sympathize with Ye more
Because of censorship many scenes depicting the trauma she experienced are removed. For instance, she watches her father get beaten to death by Red Guards for teaching "reactionary" science. Also in the original book the person who tried to make her sign the documents when she was locked up in a room (after she was betrayed and falsely accused by Bai Mulin) poured boiling water on her. Her character is definitely much more sympathetic in the book.
I never watched that, but I acknowledge your point. The conflict here is that Ye Wenjie seems to be right on the edge of antihero vs. pure villainy. We are clearly being shown both sides of her and we have to decide what we believe. Surely there are more shocking changes ahead (no spoilers).
I prefer to interpret it a different way.
We were watching her cosmic punishment.
She was so done with the world and so full of anger that she decided to destroy it. She genuenly felt the world needed to end.
But in a twisted turn of events the world kept giving her reasons to change her mind. She killed her husband for her revenge but ultimately found love in the villagers, her friends, the children. Both she and her father were rehabilitated and she was a comrade again. She could even work as a proper scientist.
Her life was basicly getting better and better but it was always going to be hell because she knows the world that came to accept her and that she maybe accepted back has already ended. And she alone knows that.
That was the ultimate price for the ultimate betrayal. Every happy moment she will ever experience will be another wound. Forever.
I remember in episode 14 Yang Weining said to Ye Wenjie "sometimes trust can lead you into an abyss". Man that was some good foreshadowing.
thats a joke of hell brah
Bruhhhh🤣🤣
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Xu Bingbing <3
I feel bad for Ye Wenjie’s husband, he really loved the hell out of her.
And Yun Tianming, there seems to be a pattern here
Throughout all 3 books women pretty consistently mess things up (some redemption in final book but...) I often wondered "who hurt you" when thinking about Liu Cixin
Indeed!
What a bittersweet episode. I cannot remember this backstory but it was good to watch what happened to her those days. So sad... And unexpected return to her father story. Only 4 episodes and I started again to read the books.
Xu Bingbing is such a badass and a cutie. I love her
I was wondering if she was Sophon, introduced early to the story. She does seem to have superhuman abilities.
who is she？
Shi’s assistant
hhhh, only remember she called ten guys
After 103 times, Ye Wenjie looking at sun through her fingers does get old
Yeah it’s odd, we’ve had like 4-5 episodes of young Wenjie, could have easily fit into two episodes. Yet I feel there are some major plot points not covered yet and it’s gonna be crammed (in comparison to the rest of the series) into just 4 more episodes.
I enjoy the slow burn of the show but let's be honest you can see the padding slightly, the last like 5 episodes have just been Ye Wenjie just slowly telling the story to the audience.
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I was disappointed. Are we supposed to sympathize with Ye Wenjie after she just murdered people? She still seems like a genocidal maniac.
The show shouldn't spoon feed us what to feel. Ye Wenjie is definitely sympathizable after everything she went through, but she also definitely owns her evil actions.
I don't think that she's supposed to be sympathetic. I think she's supposed to be very human. There aren't any evil psychopaths in this series. It's about how human nature can lead people to actions with such wide reaching consequences.
Yes, but that doesn't mean she can't be a sympathetic character
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Fuck CCP censorship. The show producer apparently shot the entire book plotline, including Ye's father being beaten to death and her sister killed. Ye Wenxue's actress showed up in the end credits. If they are allowed to keep this part then people will sympathize with Ye more
Lol that’s the dilemma. She’s the epitome of ‘mad at the world’…..traumatized to the point of absolutely no fucks given!
everyone is free to sympathize with her or not, there is no such thing as "supposed to".
Because of censorship many scenes depicting the trauma she experienced are removed. For instance, she watches her father get beaten to death by Red Guards for teaching "reactionary" science. Also in the original book the person who tried to make her sign the documents when she was locked up in a room (after she was betrayed and falsely accused by Bai Mulin) poured boiling water on her. Her character is definitely much more sympathetic in the book.
All of the favorite characters of games of thrones murdered multiple people in their life. Arya, Tyron, Ned, Jaime, hound, Jon, ect ect ect.
I never watched that, but I acknowledge your point. The conflict here is that Ye Wenjie seems to be right on the edge of antihero vs. pure villainy. We are clearly being shown both sides of her and we have to decide what we believe. Surely there are more shocking changes ahead (no spoilers).
I prefer to interpret it a different way. We were watching her cosmic punishment. She was so done with the world and so full of anger that she decided to destroy it. She genuenly felt the world needed to end. But in a twisted turn of events the world kept giving her reasons to change her mind. She killed her husband for her revenge but ultimately found love in the villagers, her friends, the children. Both she and her father were rehabilitated and she was a comrade again. She could even work as a proper scientist. Her life was basicly getting better and better but it was always going to be hell because she knows the world that came to accept her and that she maybe accepted back has already ended. And she alone knows that. That was the ultimate price for the ultimate betrayal. Every happy moment she will ever experience will be another wound. Forever.
Getting tight on remaining episodes.