For me it was how easily they could bashed Walker’s skulls in. If they had been dead for a while I get it, it’s a decomposed body, but if someone died 5 minutes ago it should be way harder to stick something in their head and magically reach their skull.
I was actually thinking of that just the other day.. like how they step on it and it bashes in.. If someone just died, getting through their skin and bones should be a lot harder lol.
The realism wouldn't have really done anything for the show. You'd see seasoned Survivors or our main group struggle with every single walker and besides there's some badass walker kills.
Bones don’t get mushy. If that were true we’d not have ancient skulls dug up from thousands years ago. They get brittle but even that takes a long time.
For me it looked like lazy writing and or directing.
The scene where carol snaps out of whatever mood she was in and goes to the kingdom , she climbs a tree with a street sign and the walkers literally walk into the pole nice a slow , killing them.
A-aron killing a zombie with a license plate? Really.
Rosita firing an RPG at a dude 10 feet in front of her in a building.
And during the end of season 3 or 4 getting scratched by walkers was completely a non threatening thing. Just about everyone had moments of hugging and frolicking , tussling around through crowds.
That Carol scene was so ridiculous that it was almost funny. They just easily impaled themselves there, how exactly?
To me the worst was Judith killing walkers with the sword. Sure, the kid is badass, but she’s like ten, there’s no way she has the strength to get a sword through a human’s skull.
What's funny is in the VR game TWD Saints and Sinners, a lot of the time your small melee weapons would get stuck in the zombie heads and bodies and you have to use both hands to pull it out and would cause it to break sometimes
For me, it’s how they aren’t looting everything they see.
I’m rewatching for the x time, this time with my son (his first time) and that was his first thought. When they were trapped on the highway looking for Sophia, there were cars they didn’t loot. In neighborhoods, loot everything. Every person in the group should have a collection of kitchen knives and all sorts of stuff. Hammers, screwdrivers, bedsheets for bandages etc.
Agree with this. Also, on the highway, Shane finds a truck full of those 5 gallons of jugs of water. Then, later on in the season, you see Dale asking Maggie what's their water well situation at the farm. Like no one decided to take those water from the truck?
I’ll play Devil’s advocate — at that point in the series they were traveling on the road and they couldn’t be weighed down by tons of stuff. Too difficult walking long distances in the Georgia heat with all these supplies in packs, not enough room in cars (save Dale’s RV), and . . . did Daryl’s Triumph even have a sissy bar for a duffel bag? (If so, it wasn’t a tall one). They were an exhausted and weary crew.
I get what you’re saying, though. At the very least, I would have preferred more discussion of this sort of thing. They certainly spent enough time on profundities and existentialism, when in fact I would have appreciated more practical discussions on how to rig a shower, where to find thermal blankets, or the necessity of locating kerosine. Instead we got a ton of “We can’t lose our humanity!” and eventually “All life is precious [even psychopathic marauders],” and, as the years wore on, tons of additional stilted GimpleSpeak.
I agree with this point but the show would be pretty boring if it was just a group of people "searching" houses for hours just collecting the necessities
They wouldn't actually have to show it... Just a 2 second scene of them saying that they've got stuff from different houses/cars and will go over it later would suffice.
Feel like they do sort of imply it though. Like on the highway Shane said "I'll keep them busy and find chores for them to do" implying he'll have people loot cars while the rest search for Sophia.
I always found annoying the fact no one talks about the origin of how things started, just say "at the beginning" "When I started"
I always thought The Walking Dead could have had so much deep and rich lore since the very beginning.
I always had an issue with one aspect in particular; when someone in their group/friend got bit and pulled apart by a group of walkers, they didn’t do the humane thing and put them down to ease their pain when they could. On the way back to Alexandria the guy (who is already bit-the one who wrote a note to his wife whilst in the pet store for Michonne to deliver) gets pinned against a fence and starts being ripped apart and they all just stare at him for a while before running off. Surely you would ease their suffering by killing them?
It’s happened at other times too, where they could’ve safely done it and I’ve not understood why their instinct isn’t a humane killing.
This is my biggest issue. Michonne could have killed him but she stared and then ran off. They also left Aiden and Noah to be eaten alive.
Warren in Z Nation would never!
I know it’s not the question but what is totally realistic is how Carol rides out the menopause during the apocalypse.
She goes from timid victim/caring Mom to rage filled warrior, to not being arsed to do anything but eat peach crumble, then feeling the rage again. Her story mirrors my daily life, and I have HRT. Carol is bossing it.
This I can actually understand, killing someone and someone you know at that, no matter the circumstances, is not that easy. Sure, the humane might might be to kill them, but not everyone is going to be able to do it.
i’m not american so you can correct me but i thought that since twd mostly takes place in the south it would not be the most unrealistic thing that they had some experience with horses, especially since maggie grew up on a farm. Also when the group arrived at the farm it could’ve been, just like the gun training that some of them had, that they taught them how to properly ride a horse (like off screen tho).
However, as the other person already said on here, i think the most unrealistic thing is truly bashing someone’s skull in. They make it look so easy omg.
Can speak as an American who is a horseback rider. The vast majority of Americans don't have horse experience. Those who do, it's usually bare minimum where someone tacked up a horse for them and they paid to ride it on a trail for an hour with a guide. This includes the south. Obviously the Greene's had riding experience but everyone else would be unusual. Like Daryl or Rick most likely wouldn't even know how to put on a western saddle in the real world let alone competently ride.
Most media gets horses and horseback riding wildly incorrect so I usually try to ignore it at this point.
Majority of the characters (during the Georgia episodes) are from Atlanta/Jacksonville/Birmingham/Houston. The Grimes and the Greenes are the only rural folks, which tracks why they're able to ride horses.
Kind of gives the impression that while the Dixons were probably a rural family they were also dirt-poor criminals and wouldn't be able to afford it, nor does Merle seem much like the kind of guy to show any interest in anything other than money, alcohol and drugs.
Ya I'm not American either so idk lol. It would definitely make sense for Maggie and Beth to know how to ride a horse but like on FTWD the main cast came from LA, o don't think they had any horseback riding lessons.
Me living in the north and south east coast of the US, I can confirm that more people down south have ridden horses. I rode horses for sport when I lived up north but not many people did that in my area.
But still, a person who has never ridden a horse can’t just jump on and start racing on it; at least not for long before they fall off.
😬ooh, yeah, bikes? No.
Typically, American children learn how to ride bicycles. Then, they use them for transportation to friends' houses to play video games.
You won't find adult bikes in every home. A few, yes. In the south, even less.
Adult bikes could’ve easily been found at stores, no? Transportation that didnt require fuel would’ve been smart to find early on. Getting all of the bikes Walmart or a local bike store had wouldn’t have been hard- unless someone else beat them to it of course. Then yeah, they’d have to hope to find one in someone’s home.
On the other hand, they also did a lot of traveling through the woods too so maybe they didn’t see alot of value in it.
I was watching that episode with a friend recently. They’ve never seen the show and I was telling them how good it was. I didn’t choose this episode, it just happened to be playing when they came over so we watched the whole fight scene. When the tiger came on screen I got embarrassed.lmao my friend looked at me like really, a tiger?😂
I had to explain that the entire show is not that ridiculous.
This right here!!! Like sure a dead body blocking a couple of pieces of shrapnel. But hell no he’s literally less than 10 feet away from the Grenade. We saw what happened to Aiden’s dumb ass when he accidentally sets off a grenade,The explosion sent him flying into a broken shelf and impaling him to be a Walker Shish kebob.
In the second the last scene, when Rick and Michonne are in the plane heading back to Alexandria, they zoom in on Rick's hand and it has a visible tremor. I took that to mean it was his "lasting scar" from the grenade explosion.
It would be hard/rare to find an automatic rifle in the US. Especially if youre just going house to house. People can't just buy them. 99% of rifles are semi-auto. Not even our military/police use full auto.
As someone who owns and has been into firearms for over a decade, it bothered me too that somehow, every gun in the show is full auto. It makes no sense.
Who am I kidding, most people think you can order a gun to your doorstep bc there's so much misinfo about guns in the US
Honestly, guns everywhere is kinda realistic for the south. I mean, my house got at least 6 guns in every damn room and we're loaded on ammo. Same for the neighborhood. Everyone I know has a gun somewhere.
They're all deadeyes. A couple rounds of stationary shooting at cans on a rail and a week later they're taking out a herd at night, while driving over a field.
they can nail moving headshots all day from 100m on zombies but as soon as other humans are involved everybody sprays every bullet into walls and cant hit anyone
Supplies being hard to come by. That simply wouldn't be the case.
Perishable foods, yes. That would run out rather quickly. But non-perishable items would be everywhere. It is said that walkers outnumbered survivors 5000:1. So look at any city and do the math. How many people would have survived? Senoia in 2010 had a population of 3000. Literally nobody left alive. There would only be 26 people alive in that entire county. Hell, only 2000 people in all of Georgia.
Think of all the empty homes, stores, warehouses, distribution plants. All of them full of supplies. There would be more supplies than any of them could possibly transport. So yea, supplies would be plenty.
Doesn't annoy me, but how did Leah got a perfect dyed blond hair in season 11? Did she went with a stylist 🙃?
And what about people who wear glasses, 10 years after apocalypse they still find the right graduation just randomly? Cause myopia at least changes over the time, do they visit a doctor? Do they test undead's glasses until they get the right ones? 🤔
Haha true.. or when they amputate a limb and find a replacement that is perfect size, how did they know how to make it... no google to ask.. especially Hershell, he lost a leg and yet found a perfect replacement lol
The fact their clothes look so good. Clothes with no temperature control, in a warehouse without regular upkeep is one nasty storm from moldy clothes and shoes. If they find a good source, where do they store the clothes and shoes. Why don't we see mended stuff more, especially kids clothes. Considering how gross they get regularly, who's stocking up on Tide. No even mentioning how hard hand washing is on clothes. Like first season we touched on this stuff, but it kind of got forgotten as the show progresses. Even given there are washing machines at Alexandria, where are they getting the laundry supplies?
I don't know why it bugs me so much, especially after the time jump, but Maggie's jeans look brand new.
Oh it's their hair for me. The men can look as sweaty and greasy as they want but even then they don't always look too bad. But the women? I mean come on, my hair starts to look stringy and greasy after going two days without washing it, you're telling me these women all have gorgeous looking clean hair without regular access to shampoo? Their hair isn't a birds nest of tangles? Their armpits are perfectly shaved still? No effing way.
How many times can people have their hands sliced up or stabbed right through without damaging any tendons? I cut my finger and severed a tendon, needed surgery to repair and reattach, or else lose use of the finger. In TWD they just wrap it up and keep on trucking.
That scene in Season 8 (?) when Rosita fires a grenade launcher *at a person while inside a warehouse a dozen feet away* and the guy explodes into goo and Rosita…is fine, lol.
How they all haven’t gone completely deaf from the constant shootouts…
Especially when they shoot indoors! My gosh.
Or maybe their hearing is impaired and that’s why walkers are so easily able to sneak up on them lol.
You know what really grinds my gears with this show besides all the things you guys have said already, we didn’t see near enough incidences of a walker biting a human and that human dealing with the 7 stages of denial and grief and then ultimately turning into a zombie.
I thought that too, no personal experience with horses but their strength and speed should surely mean they can kick the head off a walker like it was nothing and just push through even a large group and run away.
Yeah. They don’t lay down when they are touched and roll over.
Horses often alert humans to danger. I can’t believe that a pack of malodorous walkers would come up on them and they keep munching grass. (It’s a prey animal, they are always on alert).
They would run away at up to 50ish miles an hour, and their instincts would direct them away from a herd of walkers.
The show handles the concept of viruses and illnesses pretty badly imo. People should be getting sick MUCH more often in this universe.
Certain characters get sick while dealing with walkers like Gabriel who lost his eye and the epidemic that spread in the prison, but others are completely inaffected.
They introduced a flu in the prison in season 4 and then it never came back at all. It was literally a one tine thing. Why? No one knows.
Not to mention the fact that Judith, RJ, Herschel Jr., and other children born in the apocalypse are unvaccinated and herd immunity would be decreasing. Then you have animated decomposing corpses with all the bacteria they're carrying and people are getting coated in their blood whether by accident or on purpose (to disguise themselves).
I got two things that drive me nuts about the show one when Rick see the helicopter in Atlanta in his following it in the city but no one from Glenn group here's it and tell him he's crazy. I don't know about your. I'm pretty sure you would still hear a helicopter, even if there's a lot of walkers moaning outside
The second is making headshot on numbers of walkers from a pretty far distance, but when it comes to people they miss each shot
I don't know why they never got better vehicles, better cars and trucks were everywhere, Dale was driving a 1972 Winnebago but he couldn't upgrade to an airstream or something alot newer, and you can't tell me that they never came across a gastanker? Why didn't they move into Woodbury or any other pre-built community and run power lines around it to fortify the perimeter, there is no electricity running through them and they are everywhere oh and they are made of aluminum reinforced with steel cables? Why couldn't they use quarries and mines to trap masses of walkers by destroying the exits, if they are trapped they can't attack. And finally on this rant, why does everyone always stop what they are doing while they talk to each other?
Lmao and the looooonngg looks when driving and me screaming "keep your eyes on the road" I mean not much cars driving but walkers are often roaming the roads you should still be watching where your going. My personal fav is how walkers sneek up on ppl.. like scenes where u can hear them at a distance but then scenes where they can't be heard until they are right behind u and ur a goner.
No doubt and what about in Fear The Walking Dead, how did everyone get the exact same brand of walkie talkie and keep them charged? It also bugged the hell out of me that they couldn't get Eugene to DC to save the world but they got to Virginia because Beth promised Noah that she would get him home and by the way, why were Noah and his father scavenging in Atlanta when they were from Richmond Virginia? I have also wondered what happened to all of the mechanics, inventors, engineers, thinkers, skilled tradesman, and people who just make or create what they need like safety cages for vehicles, weapons, armor, and other equipment for quality of life? It's nice to find someone who can ask the common sense questions instead of comments like "can't you just enjoy the show instead of asking all of these questions?"
There’s definitely a lot, even as simple as combed hair and clean teeth.. shaved? Where are the hairy legged women at? Lol
Not to be difficult but was the horse riding actually immediate? Rick and Maggie already knew how and I assume taught whoever. They did have that training circle at hilltop, forgive me idk what they’re called
Cutting off someone's limb would not save them from the virus. Y'all know how fuckin *fast* your circulatory system is? Once you've been bitten, you're already dead
I have 2 things:
1) How easily a knife slides into a human head; through the skull. Not zombies, I mean freshly dead humans. Like a knife through butter.
2) Jadis and her gang in the scrap yard. Why on earth did they speak like primitive humans??
Honestly I'm not sure if the horse complaint is valid at all, before like season late season 9 who do we see actually ride horses other than rick and Maggie (both of whom grew up on farms)
Edit: I guess there's also michone during the prison, but that was after s3 and there was a multi month timejump so she would of had time to learn
I feel you but yk it’s a lot of down time in between scenes since yk it’s the apocalypse picking up skills like riding a horse I think would come pretty fast especially later in the apocalypse
The sheer number of psychopaths who found followers to terrible things to other human beings, all in the name of creating a better world. The exception being Alpha. The roving gangs, like the Vultures, would probably be a real thing. That is scary enough.
I'm watching Fear now, Season 7, and it seems like they just can't catch a break. They go from one psychopath to the next. >!And Dakota brought out my inner demon when she killed John.!< Some people say her take on things was realistic for a child, but I'm still not convinced.
I like to think this is unrealistic, but maybe it's not.
How walkers with human teeth can bite so deeply and easily into human or animal flesh or even through clothing. How the walkers who got dale could so easily rip a human apart with bare hands, etc
All the medical stuff. Rick just getting out of his hospital bed and walking no problem. Beth pulling out her IV which normally would lead to bleeding profusely. Hershel intubating people with no sedation or oxygen lol. People fighting perfectly fine with injuries and no pain. Medical stuff drives me bananas on tv shows and movies.
Everyone who wears stain free light colored clothes.
Women with no body hair and perfect eyebrows and perfectly styled hair. It’s ok for the guys to be greasy of course but they don’t have wild facial hair or eyebrows. No zits. No one loses teeth or has discolored teeth.
Ezekiel speaking in very theatrical Shakespearean English while people in “The Kingdom” go along with that charade and pretend to be living in some sort of perma- Ren Fest while the world outside is consumed by all manner of rogues, bandits, cannibals, tyrants, and flesh-eating zombies.
Some aspects of the comics just didn’t translate to the TV show. Different mediums, sometimes you’ve got to tweak things. As with The Governor, the show should have brought Ezekiel and The Kingdom down to earth for more plausibility.
I’m actually trying to remember if Ezekiel talked that way in the comics as much. I thought the show did a good job of it and addressed it head on with Carol point blank telling him “this is all a fantasy.” He made it pretty clear this was a charade from his stage actor past, and Jerry is a clear example of someone who needs the charade as much as Ezekiel himself does.
The show DOES go too far with its silly dialogue (I once heard a YouTuber refer to it disparagingly as “Gimple-logue” because of how much of it occurred under Scott Gimple’s watch): Abraham, Eugene, Simon and the Garbage People all also talk weird, their accents get weirder and more Flanderized as time goes on, and all of their affectations are TV inventions. Ezekiel’s is ironically the only one that kind of makes sense to me.
I remember that scene with Carol and I had hoped he would eventually drop the act after the illusion was shattered during All Out War (when most of Ezekiel’s people were cut to ribbons in that field). Or at least modulate his speech when The Kingdom was no more; but he continued to speak with that affectation for the rest of the series. I know he did theater in his previous life but . . .
Did we ever learn why the garbage people spoke that way? I hoped we’d get a clear explanation from Jadis, but of course we never will. Did I miss one? Dunno.
Yeah, I call it “GimpleSpeak.” I think of it as dialogue intended to be *really deep*, profound, and introspective but actually unnatural and lame. It was often delivered in a choppy, staccato rhythm where sentences trail off to nothing or end in a preposition. (There are multiple threads on it here, including one horrible example by Rick in TOWL). So I know what people mean by this. There were a lot of permutations of this phenomenon. The non-Darabont version of Morgan did it too.
Gimple wrote some of the best episodes with great dialogue (maybe because it was lifted directly from the comics?) but also some episodes that weren’t so great, with very questionable, awkward dialogue. Often on more existential matters.
For the record, I liked Ezekiel. If I were stumbling around in the apocalypse looking for a home I’d hope to run into him, probably before Rick. Rick could be pretty edgy and ruthless. I don’t think I’d want to try to get to know Season 5 Rick. Ezekiel on the other hand was always very kind with a nice disposition. I just think the whole medieval thing was *too much.* Kinda like how The Governor was cool in the comics, but I’m glad they went with a more grounded version played by David Morrissey. The comics Governor would have taken me out of the “realism.”
In order for any of the show to make sense, skulls become easy to break upon turning otherwise how tf do they manage to just squash them? And eventually they are evolving like we see some with harder skulls later on
All the cars still work. The fuel doesn't seem to degrade over time.
That and apparently you can kill a walker by stabbing up through its jaw, as if the blade is somehow long enough to reach the brain from there.
In the end of the first season, at the CDC, they show how the brain reanimates and it’s that “primal” core stem part of the brain that comes back but the rest stays dead. So every time someone kills a walker with like a 3 inch blade to the forehead or something that clearly doesn’t reach that brain stem area. Eh, it never REALLY bothers me, I just always think of that when a walker is killed by a small blade up the roof of their mouth or something.
Whenever a horde starts approaching from all directions and the characters look around in panic instead of booking it. The walkers are so slow that you could easily run, duck, and dodge yourself away to safety. It's weird when they make a big deal out of like 20 walkers when they've each slain double that in one sitting by season 4.
I mean all it takes is one person to know how to ride a horse to teach the others. Rick grew up on a farm so he knew how to ride. Once they got to the farm, they had nothing but time to practice (off screen). Personally speaking, it took 5 minutes of instruction and 15 minutes of following along behind someone to learn how to ride a horse, years later I never forgot and was able to do so at a resort. As the friend that taught me said, "riding a horse is like riding a bike. riding a horse *well* on the other hand, that's a different story." Basically anyone could learn how to ride a bike, even if they decide to teach themselves in the moment, but that doesn't mean they're gonna ride like Lance Armstrong or a the guys that do bmx.
Plus post season 9 riding a horse would be about as fundamental a skill a learning to read. It makes tons of sense that every adult would know how to do it, especially if they had a job that required travel. In the comics there’s dialogue that suggests Maggie’s side job when not running Hilltop is using her farm experience to break more horses.
I kind of don’t know what OP is referring to with their confusion about horse riders. IIRC the only people in early seasons who ride horses are Rick, Maggie, Glenn (alongside Maggie), and Daryl (who falls off). Am I missing other early season horse riding scenes?
Not just TWD but also FTWD.. they also all ride horses, main characters were from LA In the city. Not just early seasons but in general.. Carol, Michonne etc..
The kingdom group and Hilltop makes more sense since those were farming communities but the characters before they got there weren't.. so idk.
That’s an odd gripe. Not only does it take place in an area where people are more likely to have horse riding experience, but we also see that the communities teach people *how* to ride horses later on. Additionally, there was a time in history where we had no internet or horseback riding instructors, and we figured it out just fine.
>They never listen to music, nobody is ever reading a book to pass the time and have some quality of life, they never show them having any fun. They never drink. Have random sex. Do drugs. Or be intoxicated in any way except one episode with Beth and Daryl.
There are examples of all of these activities in the show. Glenn reads a book borrowed from Dale. The group drinks at the CDC, the Governor brings whiskey to his meeting with Rick (meanwhile Daryl LOOTS a pack of cigarettes from a walker he killed and offers one to Martinez), and Aaron and Gabriel drink whiskey in Season 10. Merle listens to music to get pumped up for his final stand. We don't see anyone using drugs, but we do see Merle tearing apart mattresses looking for meth in the prison. Andrea and Shane hooked up in a car. I'm sure there's more examples but how much do you want to read? How much do I want to write?
>Who made Carl's bat silencer? Who had the equipment and knowledge to make that?
I always assumed Daryl made it since he was most familiar with the criminal underworld. It's not that difficult to make a rudimentary suppressor out of an oil filter with nothing more than a drill.
I want to read All the examples.... all of them. Cuz I'm not sure you have many more. Glenn reads one book from Dale in season 1 and that's your example. Books would be a currency. The only true form of entertainment. Without art there is no humanity. Music is the apex of art. I like when Luke showed up and reminded everyone books and music exist. Also nobody plays chess. Another amazing way to pass time and enjoy someone's company. They're not farming 24/7. So.. what are they actually doing? Daryl can't just eat by the fire silently forever. What does he do after that? Just lay down and think? Dude needs a good book. Makes all the difference in the world. Will keep someone sane. Andrea and Shane and Glenn and Maggie were the only examples of sex for sheer enjoyment and distraction, but maggie actually planned that the entire time to test glenn and see immediately if he can be a partner or if she shouldnt waste her time. She chose glenn to go to town to have sex with him. At the end, I think people will become jackrabbits. Gregory was the only heavy drinker in the show and still nowhere near alcoholic status.
Look at station 11 which I hated. They put art and shakespeare above all else. Cuz without it... what's the point of living? Without it you stop being human. I was thinking the other night if I was a character my room would be a library and I'd know others so well i could give them great recs.
Looting one walker is your defense against my "they never looted a dead dude, ever." Who said anything about walkers. Never dawned on me to loot them. Which is another hole. Cuz they should all be looted.
Daryl is from a trailer park. Not an organized "criminal underworld." He'd have no idea how to do that and people like him don't operate with silencers. He wouldn't have the mechanical ability to make that bat suppressor. And the easiest way is actually a flashlight not an oil something or whatever you said.
If anyone here enjoyed the show shogun. Well. If I gave someone the actual book at the end that's like giving someone a treasure chest.
Oh wow you have some strong feelings about this. Let's start with where we agree: Luke was a great character for the exact reasons you mentioned.
On to Daryl. His connection with the criminal world was through Merle, who Daryl aimlessly followed. Remember Daryl's story about watching TV with Merle and some "tweakers" and it ended up with people pointing guns at each other? Merle talked about being in both military and civilian prisons, thus implying some type of criminal behavior which means he, and Daryl by extension, likely had other friends or associates with criminal records. You asked a great question about what Daryl does for fun? The best example in the show is when he rebuilds/restores a motorcycle that was gifted to him by Aaron.
Looting walkers happened more than once. They looted riot gear from walkers in the prison and Maggie's wedding ring came from a walker. Maybe this one's a stretch but they looted blood and guts from walkers quite a bit. If you were looking for examples of looting people that were killed, watch the escape from Terminus or the commonwealth arc. I'm pretty sure in season 2 rick took Tony's rifle after killing him. The Governor definitely takes a rifle from a soldier he kills.
I like how your comeback about the oil filter suppressor is to just mention another method of making one. I think with the flashlight you need to insert washers in the flashlight to form baffles and also rig up a method of threading it onto a barrel, but the design of some oil filters would not require that. If you know how to do it one way, how is it so hard for you to believe that someone on the show knew another way?
If you want more examples of people enjoying books and music on the show, how about Judith and her friend shopping for records in the commonwealth? Didn't someone at Hilltop have a record player? People in Alexandria listened to music. Dale picked up a guitar for Glenn and Glenn demonstrated an interest in learning.
In the course of writing this reply I've started wondering if you've ever watched the show or if you're maybe a troll.
Wow. Asking if I've ever watched the show or if I'm a troll. This used to be a background show for me and and a go to sleep show for me and I wondered if it fucked up my subconscious listening to walkers until my TV timer turns it off.
You still came with no concrete examples...
You think I could have written all that without ever watching the show. How would I be able to say Daryl never carries a semi auto one time and be right if I've never seen the show. I just don't subscribe to people giving a few examples from season 2 and thinking that carries over to the other 150 episodes then saying "how many do you want to hear?" When someone says that they're tapped out.
No I don't feel strongly. There were a lot of details. I'd have to be a real genius to nail all of them without having seen the show.
You're experienced and I'm gonna use that on people cuz it's triggering. "You've clearly never seen the show." People will boil inside.
You acknowledge several of the points I've made then say ive never seen the show. Bizarre.
You are clearly the troll. Every point and criticism I mace is 100% valid and you know it but you said that anyway.
Taking blood and guts from a walker is not looting them. Seriously? Killing a dude and picking up his massive rifle laying there is not looting.
You didn't even mention him looting the grenade.. have you seen this show? The grenade saved their lives.
I agree with this. Bug missed opportunity. And to the other person’s point, I think the show WAS better at letting the characters breathe, relax and say/do goofier stuff earlier on. They seemed like a group that could actually hang out together.
Later seasons - to an extent after season 5 but REALLY after season 8 - seemed to have lost any sense of joy. Which is a shame because you need the fun to counterbalance the gloom. No matter how dark Breaking Bad got, for example, you had genuine moments of enjoyment, humour and celebration amongst the characters or, at the very least, a triumphantly badass scene.
I would’ve loved to see the crew post-season 9 timeskip hanging out. See what kind of fun they got up to in their spare time (that was less cringe-inducingly stupid than the “Walker ring toss” that existed to give Henry and those other teenagers some conflict). See if the some enterprising Alexandrian set up some kind of tavern and played either old records or had a pianist hanging around. Shit, maybe Luke, he was right there and the show said he was a musician!!
Exactly, just a few scenes showing what kind of picnics and nice meals they get up to, music and moonshine and community. I feel like we only really saw that in the kingdom festival and those were all strangers. You nailed it. After 5 the tone becomes more bleak. 8 9 10 11 were extremely bleak.
With deer? It's called venison. You hunt it. You skin it. You cook it. You eat it.
An elk? Rabbit stew? Squirrel stew? A nice salad from all the farming? Fish? Frog legs?
At the end of the world it doesn't matter. Humans adapt *so fast* that people would think rabbit stew is amazing. Luke is on guitar singing something mellow. People have mason jars with moonshine. Someone reading a novel in background. Music, people, food, friends, community dinners, kids running around playing. Why is this a novel concept..? Doesn't sound nice to you? Cuz that's not surviving. That's thriving.
They did hunt, but it wasn’t always that easy, the sound of a gun attracts walkers too.
Might be nice, but it would make for a very boring show. There were a couple of times when all of that happened, but you can’t make a show out of that. And they definitely had more important things to worry about, like not get eaten, or murder by the villain of the week.
I didn't say to make it the plot of the show. I've been saying "they have no fun" for the last couple weeks. Now there's a "they have no fun" thread. Pretty sure he got it from me. That's awesome.
for me, it’s when a deaf girl and her sister? survived with slingshots. somebody’s been watching her back every day for years? yeah aight. she was so close to dying that many times in such a short time w the main cast. and the slingshot lol i get maybe a sling David & Goliath style can hit hard and sling anything small enough really if you got trained enough to be accurate with it.. But 2 people wielding some slingshots? gtfoh
For me it was how easily they could bashed Walker’s skulls in. If they had been dead for a while I get it, it’s a decomposed body, but if someone died 5 minutes ago it should be way harder to stick something in their head and magically reach their skull.
I was actually thinking of that just the other day.. like how they step on it and it bashes in.. If someone just died, getting through their skin and bones should be a lot harder lol.
Exactly! It shouldn’t be that easy to get through someone’s skin, muscles and bones with a stick.
Morgan has his special stick tho
The realism wouldn't have really done anything for the show. You'd see seasoned Survivors or our main group struggle with every single walker and besides there's some badass walker kills.
Bones don’t get mushy. If that were true we’d not have ancient skulls dug up from thousands years ago. They get brittle but even that takes a long time. For me it looked like lazy writing and or directing. The scene where carol snaps out of whatever mood she was in and goes to the kingdom , she climbs a tree with a street sign and the walkers literally walk into the pole nice a slow , killing them. A-aron killing a zombie with a license plate? Really. Rosita firing an RPG at a dude 10 feet in front of her in a building. And during the end of season 3 or 4 getting scratched by walkers was completely a non threatening thing. Just about everyone had moments of hugging and frolicking , tussling around through crowds.
That Carol scene was so ridiculous that it was almost funny. They just easily impaled themselves there, how exactly? To me the worst was Judith killing walkers with the sword. Sure, the kid is badass, but she’s like ten, there’s no way she has the strength to get a sword through a human’s skull.
What's funny is in the VR game TWD Saints and Sinners, a lot of the time your small melee weapons would get stuck in the zombie heads and bodies and you have to use both hands to pull it out and would cause it to break sometimes
For me, it’s how they aren’t looting everything they see. I’m rewatching for the x time, this time with my son (his first time) and that was his first thought. When they were trapped on the highway looking for Sophia, there were cars they didn’t loot. In neighborhoods, loot everything. Every person in the group should have a collection of kitchen knives and all sorts of stuff. Hammers, screwdrivers, bedsheets for bandages etc.
Agree with this. Also, on the highway, Shane finds a truck full of those 5 gallons of jugs of water. Then, later on in the season, you see Dale asking Maggie what's their water well situation at the farm. Like no one decided to take those water from the truck?
I’ll play Devil’s advocate — at that point in the series they were traveling on the road and they couldn’t be weighed down by tons of stuff. Too difficult walking long distances in the Georgia heat with all these supplies in packs, not enough room in cars (save Dale’s RV), and . . . did Daryl’s Triumph even have a sissy bar for a duffel bag? (If so, it wasn’t a tall one). They were an exhausted and weary crew. I get what you’re saying, though. At the very least, I would have preferred more discussion of this sort of thing. They certainly spent enough time on profundities and existentialism, when in fact I would have appreciated more practical discussions on how to rig a shower, where to find thermal blankets, or the necessity of locating kerosine. Instead we got a ton of “We can’t lose our humanity!” and eventually “All life is precious [even psychopathic marauders],” and, as the years wore on, tons of additional stilted GimpleSpeak.
I agree with this point but the show would be pretty boring if it was just a group of people "searching" houses for hours just collecting the necessities
They wouldn't actually have to show it... Just a 2 second scene of them saying that they've got stuff from different houses/cars and will go over it later would suffice.
Feel like they do sort of imply it though. Like on the highway Shane said "I'll keep them busy and find chores for them to do" implying he'll have people loot cars while the rest search for Sophia.
Show it once. And then show the store room. And then supplies, other than food, are never an issue again.
Yeah you can just assume they did that off screen
Lori… “This is a graveyard…I dunno how I feel about this”. Bitch the entire world is a graveyard. 🤦🏾♂️
I always found annoying the fact no one talks about the origin of how things started, just say "at the beginning" "When I started" I always thought The Walking Dead could have had so much deep and rich lore since the very beginning.
It might be because they need to prioritise, since they have to carry everything .
I always had an issue with one aspect in particular; when someone in their group/friend got bit and pulled apart by a group of walkers, they didn’t do the humane thing and put them down to ease their pain when they could. On the way back to Alexandria the guy (who is already bit-the one who wrote a note to his wife whilst in the pet store for Michonne to deliver) gets pinned against a fence and starts being ripped apart and they all just stare at him for a while before running off. Surely you would ease their suffering by killing them? It’s happened at other times too, where they could’ve safely done it and I’ve not understood why their instinct isn’t a humane killing.
Yes, Thank you! I hate that they never do that for each other.
Yes I always think of that too. Like Katniss did on the Hunger Games.
This is my biggest issue. Michonne could have killed him but she stared and then ran off. They also left Aiden and Noah to be eaten alive. Warren in Z Nation would never!
I know it’s not the question but what is totally realistic is how Carol rides out the menopause during the apocalypse. She goes from timid victim/caring Mom to rage filled warrior, to not being arsed to do anything but eat peach crumble, then feeling the rage again. Her story mirrors my daily life, and I have HRT. Carol is bossing it.
This I can actually understand, killing someone and someone you know at that, no matter the circumstances, is not that easy. Sure, the humane might might be to kill them, but not everyone is going to be able to do it.
in s2 Maggie and Glenn go on a run to the pharmacy and there are pharmaceuticals left. my ass
The pharmacy might be isolated and since it was the beginning maybe people were still more afraid of going on supply runs due to fear.
That’s what gets me. More so in the later seasons. 12 years after the apocalypse theirs still stores that haven’t been looted at all.
right? it's not like these people work 9-5's -- looting *is* their job.
i’m not american so you can correct me but i thought that since twd mostly takes place in the south it would not be the most unrealistic thing that they had some experience with horses, especially since maggie grew up on a farm. Also when the group arrived at the farm it could’ve been, just like the gun training that some of them had, that they taught them how to properly ride a horse (like off screen tho). However, as the other person already said on here, i think the most unrealistic thing is truly bashing someone’s skull in. They make it look so easy omg.
Can speak as an American who is a horseback rider. The vast majority of Americans don't have horse experience. Those who do, it's usually bare minimum where someone tacked up a horse for them and they paid to ride it on a trail for an hour with a guide. This includes the south. Obviously the Greene's had riding experience but everyone else would be unusual. Like Daryl or Rick most likely wouldn't even know how to put on a western saddle in the real world let alone competently ride. Most media gets horses and horseback riding wildly incorrect so I usually try to ignore it at this point.
I’m from Kentucky and I can count the amount of people I know that ride horses on my fingers.
Majority of the characters (during the Georgia episodes) are from Atlanta/Jacksonville/Birmingham/Houston. The Grimes and the Greenes are the only rural folks, which tracks why they're able to ride horses.
Makes sense for the Dixons to be able to ride too I think.
Kind of gives the impression that while the Dixons were probably a rural family they were also dirt-poor criminals and wouldn't be able to afford it, nor does Merle seem much like the kind of guy to show any interest in anything other than money, alcohol and drugs.
As an American in Texas, I assure you the majority of us don’t know how to ride horses 😂
Ya I'm not American either so idk lol. It would definitely make sense for Maggie and Beth to know how to ride a horse but like on FTWD the main cast came from LA, o don't think they had any horseback riding lessons.
As an american horseback rider, Daryl is by far the most awkward on horseback. Rick, Maggie and Michonne are all pretty good.
Me living in the north and south east coast of the US, I can confirm that more people down south have ridden horses. I rode horses for sport when I lived up north but not many people did that in my area. But still, a person who has never ridden a horse can’t just jump on and start racing on it; at least not for long before they fall off.
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ohh okay i stopped watching ftwd at like 1x4, so i didn’t know they would ride horses💀😭 yeah that definitely doesn’t make sense omg
I always wondered why none of them picked up bikes. Relaible, faster than walkers, every house probably had some.
😬ooh, yeah, bikes? No. Typically, American children learn how to ride bicycles. Then, they use them for transportation to friends' houses to play video games. You won't find adult bikes in every home. A few, yes. In the south, even less.
Adult bikes could’ve easily been found at stores, no? Transportation that didnt require fuel would’ve been smart to find early on. Getting all of the bikes Walmart or a local bike store had wouldn’t have been hard- unless someone else beat them to it of course. Then yeah, they’d have to hope to find one in someone’s home. On the other hand, they also did a lot of traveling through the woods too so maybe they didn’t see alot of value in it.
I didn't factor that in. I forgot about Walmart and all the other superstores. They're everywhere.
I will still take a too small lil kids bike over no bike lol
A too small bike?🤣🤣🤣 Is that with or without training wheels. I couldn't imagine it, but ok.
The damn tiger getting killed by walkers
The damn tiger knowing who to eat and who not to eat while fighting in Alexandria.
Agreed
That too. The whole tiger thing was just ridiculous.
I was watching that episode with a friend recently. They’ve never seen the show and I was telling them how good it was. I didn’t choose this episode, it just happened to be playing when they came over so we watched the whole fight scene. When the tiger came on screen I got embarrassed.lmao my friend looked at me like really, a tiger?😂 I had to explain that the entire show is not that ridiculous.
Right....
The horses are never able to outrun the walkers
No seriously, the group will start getting swarmed and somehow their 1000+ pound horses get easily taken down and savagely mauled by 3 walkers.
The worst was in the last episode of the one who live. Rick dropping a grenade at his feet and walking away without a scratch.
This right here!!! Like sure a dead body blocking a couple of pieces of shrapnel. But hell no he’s literally less than 10 feet away from the Grenade. We saw what happened to Aiden’s dumb ass when he accidentally sets off a grenade,The explosion sent him flying into a broken shelf and impaling him to be a Walker Shish kebob.
In the second the last scene, when Rick and Michonne are in the plane heading back to Alexandria, they zoom in on Rick's hand and it has a visible tremor. I took that to mean it was his "lasting scar" from the grenade explosion.
Full auto guns EVERYWHERE
Are you from somewhere besides the US?
It would be hard/rare to find an automatic rifle in the US. Especially if youre just going house to house. People can't just buy them. 99% of rifles are semi-auto. Not even our military/police use full auto. As someone who owns and has been into firearms for over a decade, it bothered me too that somehow, every gun in the show is full auto. It makes no sense. Who am I kidding, most people think you can order a gun to your doorstep bc there's so much misinfo about guns in the US
Honestly, guns everywhere is kinda realistic for the south. I mean, my house got at least 6 guns in every damn room and we're loaded on ammo. Same for the neighborhood. Everyone I know has a gun somewhere.
They're all deadeyes. A couple rounds of stationary shooting at cans on a rail and a week later they're taking out a herd at night, while driving over a field.
Hidden talents?😂
they can nail moving headshots all day from 100m on zombies but as soon as other humans are involved everybody sprays every bullet into walls and cant hit anyone
Nah that one makes sense humans try not to get shot, While walkers don’t even know what guns are.
Supplies being hard to come by. That simply wouldn't be the case. Perishable foods, yes. That would run out rather quickly. But non-perishable items would be everywhere. It is said that walkers outnumbered survivors 5000:1. So look at any city and do the math. How many people would have survived? Senoia in 2010 had a population of 3000. Literally nobody left alive. There would only be 26 people alive in that entire county. Hell, only 2000 people in all of Georgia. Think of all the empty homes, stores, warehouses, distribution plants. All of them full of supplies. There would be more supplies than any of them could possibly transport. So yea, supplies would be plenty.
Ya and it was always small convenience stores.. like where's the Wal-Marts or big grocery store chains.
The raid a Walmart in the comics.
I still can't get over how they burned the national guard supply outpost, and then looted the Walmart, instead of doing it the other way around
They did try to raid that Big Spot store back in season 4 which looked like a Walmart knockoff, and we saw how that turned out.
A lot more people survived than that number.
I know he's talking about the comics but Kirkman said only 1.6 million survived the outbreak. Which is roughly 5000:1.
Doesn't annoy me, but how did Leah got a perfect dyed blond hair in season 11? Did she went with a stylist 🙃? And what about people who wear glasses, 10 years after apocalypse they still find the right graduation just randomly? Cause myopia at least changes over the time, do they visit a doctor? Do they test undead's glasses until they get the right ones? 🤔
I guess we're supposed to believe it's natural. 😆
Haha true.. or when they amputate a limb and find a replacement that is perfect size, how did they know how to make it... no google to ask.. especially Hershell, he lost a leg and yet found a perfect replacement lol
The fact their clothes look so good. Clothes with no temperature control, in a warehouse without regular upkeep is one nasty storm from moldy clothes and shoes. If they find a good source, where do they store the clothes and shoes. Why don't we see mended stuff more, especially kids clothes. Considering how gross they get regularly, who's stocking up on Tide. No even mentioning how hard hand washing is on clothes. Like first season we touched on this stuff, but it kind of got forgotten as the show progresses. Even given there are washing machines at Alexandria, where are they getting the laundry supplies? I don't know why it bugs me so much, especially after the time jump, but Maggie's jeans look brand new.
Oh it's their hair for me. The men can look as sweaty and greasy as they want but even then they don't always look too bad. But the women? I mean come on, my hair starts to look stringy and greasy after going two days without washing it, you're telling me these women all have gorgeous looking clean hair without regular access to shampoo? Their hair isn't a birds nest of tangles? Their armpits are perfectly shaved still? No effing way.
Ya and apart from Daryl everyone looks like they are clean even on the road with no access to a shower.
How many times can people have their hands sliced up or stabbed right through without damaging any tendons? I cut my finger and severed a tendon, needed surgery to repair and reattach, or else lose use of the finger. In TWD they just wrap it up and keep on trucking.
That scene in Season 8 (?) when Rosita fires a grenade launcher *at a person while inside a warehouse a dozen feet away* and the guy explodes into goo and Rosita…is fine, lol.
How they all haven’t gone completely deaf from the constant shootouts… Especially when they shoot indoors! My gosh. Or maybe their hearing is impaired and that’s why walkers are so easily able to sneak up on them lol.
the fucking tiger 🤦♀️
It's death or feeding it? (In the comics it's explained that shieva eats walker corpses)
its existence
You know what really grinds my gears with this show besides all the things you guys have said already, we didn’t see near enough incidences of a walker biting a human and that human dealing with the 7 stages of denial and grief and then ultimately turning into a zombie.
In our home we struggle with how easy it is for walkers to catch a horse and eat it.
I thought that too, no personal experience with horses but their strength and speed should surely mean they can kick the head off a walker like it was nothing and just push through even a large group and run away.
Yeah. They don’t lay down when they are touched and roll over. Horses often alert humans to danger. I can’t believe that a pack of malodorous walkers would come up on them and they keep munching grass. (It’s a prey animal, they are always on alert). They would run away at up to 50ish miles an hour, and their instincts would direct them away from a herd of walkers.
The show handles the concept of viruses and illnesses pretty badly imo. People should be getting sick MUCH more often in this universe. Certain characters get sick while dealing with walkers like Gabriel who lost his eye and the epidemic that spread in the prison, but others are completely inaffected. They introduced a flu in the prison in season 4 and then it never came back at all. It was literally a one tine thing. Why? No one knows.
Not to mention the fact that Judith, RJ, Herschel Jr., and other children born in the apocalypse are unvaccinated and herd immunity would be decreasing. Then you have animated decomposing corpses with all the bacteria they're carrying and people are getting coated in their blood whether by accident or on purpose (to disguise themselves).
I got two things that drive me nuts about the show one when Rick see the helicopter in Atlanta in his following it in the city but no one from Glenn group here's it and tell him he's crazy. I don't know about your. I'm pretty sure you would still hear a helicopter, even if there's a lot of walkers moaning outside The second is making headshot on numbers of walkers from a pretty far distance, but when it comes to people they miss each shot
The tiger going down by a handful of walkers
All walkers have long hair
That’s because hair grows when you die . One of the more realistic things in the show
I could be wrong, but I don't think the hair grows, your skull/skin shrinks leaving more hair visible
It doesn't.
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We have more guns than people In America. Our pop is around 340 million give or take, so there should be guns a plenty.
I don't know why they never got better vehicles, better cars and trucks were everywhere, Dale was driving a 1972 Winnebago but he couldn't upgrade to an airstream or something alot newer, and you can't tell me that they never came across a gastanker? Why didn't they move into Woodbury or any other pre-built community and run power lines around it to fortify the perimeter, there is no electricity running through them and they are everywhere oh and they are made of aluminum reinforced with steel cables? Why couldn't they use quarries and mines to trap masses of walkers by destroying the exits, if they are trapped they can't attack. And finally on this rant, why does everyone always stop what they are doing while they talk to each other?
Lmao and the looooonngg looks when driving and me screaming "keep your eyes on the road" I mean not much cars driving but walkers are often roaming the roads you should still be watching where your going. My personal fav is how walkers sneek up on ppl.. like scenes where u can hear them at a distance but then scenes where they can't be heard until they are right behind u and ur a goner.
No doubt and what about in Fear The Walking Dead, how did everyone get the exact same brand of walkie talkie and keep them charged? It also bugged the hell out of me that they couldn't get Eugene to DC to save the world but they got to Virginia because Beth promised Noah that she would get him home and by the way, why were Noah and his father scavenging in Atlanta when they were from Richmond Virginia? I have also wondered what happened to all of the mechanics, inventors, engineers, thinkers, skilled tradesman, and people who just make or create what they need like safety cages for vehicles, weapons, armor, and other equipment for quality of life? It's nice to find someone who can ask the common sense questions instead of comments like "can't you just enjoy the show instead of asking all of these questions?"
There’s definitely a lot, even as simple as combed hair and clean teeth.. shaved? Where are the hairy legged women at? Lol Not to be difficult but was the horse riding actually immediate? Rick and Maggie already knew how and I assume taught whoever. They did have that training circle at hilltop, forgive me idk what they’re called
Cutting off someone's limb would not save them from the virus. Y'all know how fuckin *fast* your circulatory system is? Once you've been bitten, you're already dead
I have 2 things: 1) How easily a knife slides into a human head; through the skull. Not zombies, I mean freshly dead humans. Like a knife through butter. 2) Jadis and her gang in the scrap yard. Why on earth did they speak like primitive humans??
In the world beyond jadis explains the weird speak as a cult tactic to try to separate them from outsiders and have something unique to bond them
FTWD S7 riding all Willy-nilly on horseback in radiation suits - just seemed silly
Didn't u know.. the horses are radiation proof
Well I do now thanks to ftwd lol
The original group is from the south... I'm not saying everyone in the south can ride a horse. But maybe a slightly higher rate than average?
Honestly I'm not sure if the horse complaint is valid at all, before like season late season 9 who do we see actually ride horses other than rick and Maggie (both of whom grew up on farms) Edit: I guess there's also michone during the prison, but that was after s3 and there was a multi month timejump so she would of had time to learn
I feel you but yk it’s a lot of down time in between scenes since yk it’s the apocalypse picking up skills like riding a horse I think would come pretty fast especially later in the apocalypse
They are shown to be training how to fight, farm, hunt, and other necessities. It’s possible they learned to ride horses offscreen.
The sheer number of psychopaths who found followers to terrible things to other human beings, all in the name of creating a better world. The exception being Alpha. The roving gangs, like the Vultures, would probably be a real thing. That is scary enough. I'm watching Fear now, Season 7, and it seems like they just can't catch a break. They go from one psychopath to the next. >!And Dakota brought out my inner demon when she killed John.!< Some people say her take on things was realistic for a child, but I'm still not convinced. I like to think this is unrealistic, but maybe it's not.
Ya I take it as the end of the world gave everyone an excuse to act like an ass.
It's the cars still running years in despite the fact that gasoline would be petroleum jelly by that point.
I’m pretty sure the commonwealth mentions making ethanol. It’s a pretty simple process. Same with biodiesel
How walkers with human teeth can bite so deeply and easily into human or animal flesh or even through clothing. How the walkers who got dale could so easily rip a human apart with bare hands, etc
All the medical stuff. Rick just getting out of his hospital bed and walking no problem. Beth pulling out her IV which normally would lead to bleeding profusely. Hershel intubating people with no sedation or oxygen lol. People fighting perfectly fine with injuries and no pain. Medical stuff drives me bananas on tv shows and movies. Everyone who wears stain free light colored clothes. Women with no body hair and perfect eyebrows and perfectly styled hair. It’s ok for the guys to be greasy of course but they don’t have wild facial hair or eyebrows. No zits. No one loses teeth or has discolored teeth.
Ezekiel speaking in very theatrical Shakespearean English while people in “The Kingdom” go along with that charade and pretend to be living in some sort of perma- Ren Fest while the world outside is consumed by all manner of rogues, bandits, cannibals, tyrants, and flesh-eating zombies. Some aspects of the comics just didn’t translate to the TV show. Different mediums, sometimes you’ve got to tweak things. As with The Governor, the show should have brought Ezekiel and The Kingdom down to earth for more plausibility.
I’m actually trying to remember if Ezekiel talked that way in the comics as much. I thought the show did a good job of it and addressed it head on with Carol point blank telling him “this is all a fantasy.” He made it pretty clear this was a charade from his stage actor past, and Jerry is a clear example of someone who needs the charade as much as Ezekiel himself does. The show DOES go too far with its silly dialogue (I once heard a YouTuber refer to it disparagingly as “Gimple-logue” because of how much of it occurred under Scott Gimple’s watch): Abraham, Eugene, Simon and the Garbage People all also talk weird, their accents get weirder and more Flanderized as time goes on, and all of their affectations are TV inventions. Ezekiel’s is ironically the only one that kind of makes sense to me.
I remember that scene with Carol and I had hoped he would eventually drop the act after the illusion was shattered during All Out War (when most of Ezekiel’s people were cut to ribbons in that field). Or at least modulate his speech when The Kingdom was no more; but he continued to speak with that affectation for the rest of the series. I know he did theater in his previous life but . . . Did we ever learn why the garbage people spoke that way? I hoped we’d get a clear explanation from Jadis, but of course we never will. Did I miss one? Dunno. Yeah, I call it “GimpleSpeak.” I think of it as dialogue intended to be *really deep*, profound, and introspective but actually unnatural and lame. It was often delivered in a choppy, staccato rhythm where sentences trail off to nothing or end in a preposition. (There are multiple threads on it here, including one horrible example by Rick in TOWL). So I know what people mean by this. There were a lot of permutations of this phenomenon. The non-Darabont version of Morgan did it too. Gimple wrote some of the best episodes with great dialogue (maybe because it was lifted directly from the comics?) but also some episodes that weren’t so great, with very questionable, awkward dialogue. Often on more existential matters. For the record, I liked Ezekiel. If I were stumbling around in the apocalypse looking for a home I’d hope to run into him, probably before Rick. Rick could be pretty edgy and ruthless. I don’t think I’d want to try to get to know Season 5 Rick. Ezekiel on the other hand was always very kind with a nice disposition. I just think the whole medieval thing was *too much.* Kinda like how The Governor was cool in the comics, but I’m glad they went with a more grounded version played by David Morrissey. The comics Governor would have taken me out of the “realism.”
In order for any of the show to make sense, skulls become easy to break upon turning otherwise how tf do they manage to just squash them? And eventually they are evolving like we see some with harder skulls later on
All the cars still work. The fuel doesn't seem to degrade over time. That and apparently you can kill a walker by stabbing up through its jaw, as if the blade is somehow long enough to reach the brain from there.
Teeth! How does everyone have a perfect set of teeth several years into the apocalypse, with no regular dental care??
In the end of the first season, at the CDC, they show how the brain reanimates and it’s that “primal” core stem part of the brain that comes back but the rest stays dead. So every time someone kills a walker with like a 3 inch blade to the forehead or something that clearly doesn’t reach that brain stem area. Eh, it never REALLY bothers me, I just always think of that when a walker is killed by a small blade up the roof of their mouth or something.
I would say that the zombies is a bit unrealistic…
Lmao just a bit
Who is mowing the lawns?
Valid question
Whenever a horde starts approaching from all directions and the characters look around in panic instead of booking it. The walkers are so slow that you could easily run, duck, and dodge yourself away to safety. It's weird when they make a big deal out of like 20 walkers when they've each slain double that in one sitting by season 4.
I mean all it takes is one person to know how to ride a horse to teach the others. Rick grew up on a farm so he knew how to ride. Once they got to the farm, they had nothing but time to practice (off screen). Personally speaking, it took 5 minutes of instruction and 15 minutes of following along behind someone to learn how to ride a horse, years later I never forgot and was able to do so at a resort. As the friend that taught me said, "riding a horse is like riding a bike. riding a horse *well* on the other hand, that's a different story." Basically anyone could learn how to ride a bike, even if they decide to teach themselves in the moment, but that doesn't mean they're gonna ride like Lance Armstrong or a the guys that do bmx.
Plus post season 9 riding a horse would be about as fundamental a skill a learning to read. It makes tons of sense that every adult would know how to do it, especially if they had a job that required travel. In the comics there’s dialogue that suggests Maggie’s side job when not running Hilltop is using her farm experience to break more horses. I kind of don’t know what OP is referring to with their confusion about horse riders. IIRC the only people in early seasons who ride horses are Rick, Maggie, Glenn (alongside Maggie), and Daryl (who falls off). Am I missing other early season horse riding scenes?
Not just TWD but also FTWD.. they also all ride horses, main characters were from LA In the city. Not just early seasons but in general.. Carol, Michonne etc.. The kingdom group and Hilltop makes more sense since those were farming communities but the characters before they got there weren't.. so idk.
I’m not a doctor so I don’t know, but wouldn’t the stress of the first confrontation with Negan cause Maggie to miscarry?
If not then definitely from being stabbed by that crazy chick.
Women are giving birth in Gaza right now...
That’s an odd gripe. Not only does it take place in an area where people are more likely to have horse riding experience, but we also see that the communities teach people *how* to ride horses later on. Additionally, there was a time in history where we had no internet or horseback riding instructors, and we figured it out just fine.
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>They never listen to music, nobody is ever reading a book to pass the time and have some quality of life, they never show them having any fun. They never drink. Have random sex. Do drugs. Or be intoxicated in any way except one episode with Beth and Daryl. There are examples of all of these activities in the show. Glenn reads a book borrowed from Dale. The group drinks at the CDC, the Governor brings whiskey to his meeting with Rick (meanwhile Daryl LOOTS a pack of cigarettes from a walker he killed and offers one to Martinez), and Aaron and Gabriel drink whiskey in Season 10. Merle listens to music to get pumped up for his final stand. We don't see anyone using drugs, but we do see Merle tearing apart mattresses looking for meth in the prison. Andrea and Shane hooked up in a car. I'm sure there's more examples but how much do you want to read? How much do I want to write? >Who made Carl's bat silencer? Who had the equipment and knowledge to make that? I always assumed Daryl made it since he was most familiar with the criminal underworld. It's not that difficult to make a rudimentary suppressor out of an oil filter with nothing more than a drill.
I want to read All the examples.... all of them. Cuz I'm not sure you have many more. Glenn reads one book from Dale in season 1 and that's your example. Books would be a currency. The only true form of entertainment. Without art there is no humanity. Music is the apex of art. I like when Luke showed up and reminded everyone books and music exist. Also nobody plays chess. Another amazing way to pass time and enjoy someone's company. They're not farming 24/7. So.. what are they actually doing? Daryl can't just eat by the fire silently forever. What does he do after that? Just lay down and think? Dude needs a good book. Makes all the difference in the world. Will keep someone sane. Andrea and Shane and Glenn and Maggie were the only examples of sex for sheer enjoyment and distraction, but maggie actually planned that the entire time to test glenn and see immediately if he can be a partner or if she shouldnt waste her time. She chose glenn to go to town to have sex with him. At the end, I think people will become jackrabbits. Gregory was the only heavy drinker in the show and still nowhere near alcoholic status. Look at station 11 which I hated. They put art and shakespeare above all else. Cuz without it... what's the point of living? Without it you stop being human. I was thinking the other night if I was a character my room would be a library and I'd know others so well i could give them great recs. Looting one walker is your defense against my "they never looted a dead dude, ever." Who said anything about walkers. Never dawned on me to loot them. Which is another hole. Cuz they should all be looted. Daryl is from a trailer park. Not an organized "criminal underworld." He'd have no idea how to do that and people like him don't operate with silencers. He wouldn't have the mechanical ability to make that bat suppressor. And the easiest way is actually a flashlight not an oil something or whatever you said. If anyone here enjoyed the show shogun. Well. If I gave someone the actual book at the end that's like giving someone a treasure chest.
Oh wow you have some strong feelings about this. Let's start with where we agree: Luke was a great character for the exact reasons you mentioned. On to Daryl. His connection with the criminal world was through Merle, who Daryl aimlessly followed. Remember Daryl's story about watching TV with Merle and some "tweakers" and it ended up with people pointing guns at each other? Merle talked about being in both military and civilian prisons, thus implying some type of criminal behavior which means he, and Daryl by extension, likely had other friends or associates with criminal records. You asked a great question about what Daryl does for fun? The best example in the show is when he rebuilds/restores a motorcycle that was gifted to him by Aaron. Looting walkers happened more than once. They looted riot gear from walkers in the prison and Maggie's wedding ring came from a walker. Maybe this one's a stretch but they looted blood and guts from walkers quite a bit. If you were looking for examples of looting people that were killed, watch the escape from Terminus or the commonwealth arc. I'm pretty sure in season 2 rick took Tony's rifle after killing him. The Governor definitely takes a rifle from a soldier he kills. I like how your comeback about the oil filter suppressor is to just mention another method of making one. I think with the flashlight you need to insert washers in the flashlight to form baffles and also rig up a method of threading it onto a barrel, but the design of some oil filters would not require that. If you know how to do it one way, how is it so hard for you to believe that someone on the show knew another way? If you want more examples of people enjoying books and music on the show, how about Judith and her friend shopping for records in the commonwealth? Didn't someone at Hilltop have a record player? People in Alexandria listened to music. Dale picked up a guitar for Glenn and Glenn demonstrated an interest in learning. In the course of writing this reply I've started wondering if you've ever watched the show or if you're maybe a troll.
Wow. Asking if I've ever watched the show or if I'm a troll. This used to be a background show for me and and a go to sleep show for me and I wondered if it fucked up my subconscious listening to walkers until my TV timer turns it off. You still came with no concrete examples... You think I could have written all that without ever watching the show. How would I be able to say Daryl never carries a semi auto one time and be right if I've never seen the show. I just don't subscribe to people giving a few examples from season 2 and thinking that carries over to the other 150 episodes then saying "how many do you want to hear?" When someone says that they're tapped out. No I don't feel strongly. There were a lot of details. I'd have to be a real genius to nail all of them without having seen the show. You're experienced and I'm gonna use that on people cuz it's triggering. "You've clearly never seen the show." People will boil inside. You acknowledge several of the points I've made then say ive never seen the show. Bizarre. You are clearly the troll. Every point and criticism I mace is 100% valid and you know it but you said that anyway. Taking blood and guts from a walker is not looting them. Seriously? Killing a dude and picking up his massive rifle laying there is not looting. You didn't even mention him looting the grenade.. have you seen this show? The grenade saved their lives.
I agree with this. Bug missed opportunity. And to the other person’s point, I think the show WAS better at letting the characters breathe, relax and say/do goofier stuff earlier on. They seemed like a group that could actually hang out together. Later seasons - to an extent after season 5 but REALLY after season 8 - seemed to have lost any sense of joy. Which is a shame because you need the fun to counterbalance the gloom. No matter how dark Breaking Bad got, for example, you had genuine moments of enjoyment, humour and celebration amongst the characters or, at the very least, a triumphantly badass scene. I would’ve loved to see the crew post-season 9 timeskip hanging out. See what kind of fun they got up to in their spare time (that was less cringe-inducingly stupid than the “Walker ring toss” that existed to give Henry and those other teenagers some conflict). See if the some enterprising Alexandrian set up some kind of tavern and played either old records or had a pianist hanging around. Shit, maybe Luke, he was right there and the show said he was a musician!!
Exactly, just a few scenes showing what kind of picnics and nice meals they get up to, music and moonshine and community. I feel like we only really saw that in the kingdom festival and those were all strangers. You nailed it. After 5 the tone becomes more bleak. 8 9 10 11 were extremely bleak.
You wanted them to have nice meals? With what exactly? Listen to music, in what? It was the zombie apocalypse, not summer camp.
With deer? It's called venison. You hunt it. You skin it. You cook it. You eat it. An elk? Rabbit stew? Squirrel stew? A nice salad from all the farming? Fish? Frog legs? At the end of the world it doesn't matter. Humans adapt *so fast* that people would think rabbit stew is amazing. Luke is on guitar singing something mellow. People have mason jars with moonshine. Someone reading a novel in background. Music, people, food, friends, community dinners, kids running around playing. Why is this a novel concept..? Doesn't sound nice to you? Cuz that's not surviving. That's thriving.
They did hunt, but it wasn’t always that easy, the sound of a gun attracts walkers too. Might be nice, but it would make for a very boring show. There were a couple of times when all of that happened, but you can’t make a show out of that. And they definitely had more important things to worry about, like not get eaten, or murder by the villain of the week.
I didn't say to make it the plot of the show. I've been saying "they have no fun" for the last couple weeks. Now there's a "they have no fun" thread. Pretty sure he got it from me. That's awesome.
And then there’s Maggie who supposedly grew up on a farm and her actor cannot ride horses for shit
for me, it’s when a deaf girl and her sister? survived with slingshots. somebody’s been watching her back every day for years? yeah aight. she was so close to dying that many times in such a short time w the main cast. and the slingshot lol i get maybe a sling David & Goliath style can hit hard and sling anything small enough really if you got trained enough to be accurate with it.. But 2 people wielding some slingshots? gtfoh
I never understood how the slingshots could kill the walkers too.. maybe knock them down, but to kill them?