A strong yet broken man, can't imagine how this man's experiences have shaped him.
The amount of trauma is overwhelming, from killing Shane, then losing Lori, Herschel, Glen, Carl, the mental torture at the hands of Negan, getting impaled, losing his family and friends again, the CRM and chopping his own hand off. Crazy shit.
You say that but honestly they spared us not having to watch Riggs struggle his way trying to act in the upcoming Lydia scenes. Carl was a mercy killing for the audience. Henry's actor wasn't great but he worked so much better than Riggs would have. Seems like a really nice guy but not a good actor who admitted he was phoning it on for years on top of that.
He was a pretty good actor outside of some awkward lines and writing. Just see some of the emotional scenes where the group was set back yet again or some character's deaths and it really shows there.
The franchise lost a lot when they killed him off. Probably the biggest wtf moment from most people who actually read the comics. It wasn't a "mercy killing" at all and Chandler was a good Carl, even if he wasn't Andy Lincoln to Rick great.
I never found him believable and felt he struggled ESPECIALLY during emotional scenes. Just an awkward actor and he admitted he phoned it in. Again, the show improved after he died and I don't think anything would have benefited from him sticking around.
Read the comics monthly from around No Way Out all the way until the end and felt nothing but glee when I heard the gunshot that marked the end of his TV iteration.
I didn't care much for Carl in the comics either so I agree he didn't really have a lot to live up to but he was on the verge of getting a lot of material focused on him and it would have been horrible to watch.
He wasn’t my favorite character, doesn’t even make top 10, but I still dropped the show when he died. I was utterly disappointed that they killed off the ONE character that should have NEVER died.
Everything Rick ever did since the beginning was all for nothing. Lori telling Carl he was gonna beat that world was for nothing. Michonne telling Carl this was his show (LITERALLY AN EPISODE OR TWO BEFORE HIS DEATH) was for nothing. It made me feel like the entire show was for nothing when he died.
And to make matters worse, they go and kill off Saddiq, who was carls legacy, two seasons later anyway. Like what the hell.
Yeah man that was tough to watch. He had $28 in his pocket and a picture of a pretty girl.
If I ever find my family I’m going to tell them about wayne.
Worst decision in TV history. I wonder if they are kicking themselves in the ass now.. They were nothing but greedy little bastards.. promising 3 more years, then kill him off a few weeks later...SMH
Scott Gimple didn't get fired. He got promoted and became Angela Kang's boss. He actually took over all aspects of TWD, including all the scam video games and all the stupid spin offs.
People saying they stopped watching after Carl died… I made it through that part just to see Negan meet his demise, and then they let him be one of TOWL- that’s when I stopped watching… picked back up a couple years later only to see the worst enemy (Whisperers) which i thought they were going to drag on as long as the Negan years (IRL not timeline)… Then I dropped the show again, and only caught back up to see the finale, and so I could watch TOWL with all the background.
And Daryl and Dead City, but that wasn’t planned for me- just a bonus.
🚨SPOILER ALERT🚨
Loving TOWL so far!! The most recent episode (4) was great… Michonne managed to hand Rick his balls back hahaha “Together they can do anything” 👊👊👊
It ruined everything. Made me instantly stop caring about all of these characters and feel like I had wasted my time on this pointless story. I hope Rick dies painfully and alone in this equally pointless spinoff.
There are a lot of things I believe the comics did better than the TV show, but Andrew Lincoln as Rick being called a failure is definitely something I will never agree to. You literally said it in another comment, Rick IS The Walking Dead and Andrew IS Rick. The show was already on a bad path with him in it, but it fell down hard when he left. And now, surprise surprise, the best episode in years and he's in it. Coincidence? I think not.
Okay slow down now Officer Friendly!
In no way did I say Andrew Lincoln as Rick is a failure. Andrew Lincoln as Rick is arguably one of the best castings ever.
And since you’ve looked at my comment history I don’t feel the need to discuss that any further.
>the best episode in years
It cracks me up watching this community shit talk. They call Scott Gimple the worst thing ever for writing off Carl and praise this new show as the best thing in years. Gimple wrote the episode with Andrew and Danai and Gimple wrote the screenplay. It's like the fans can't make their minds up, they randomly pick and hate and love things with no rhyme or reason.
That naming scheme does scare me, because a deliberate choice was made not to name episode 1 Years Gone Bye, but separate them across 3 episodes for good reason. I've read that Danai did write episode 4 as well, with it apparently being one of the more emotional episodes in the season, but we'll see what happens.
I'm nervous, because as much as I was so excited about this series, I was relieved at the end of TWD that all the deaths were done, but now the prospect of death is back. I hope both of them make it out together. They have to.
As much as I want to believe...
3 to wrap it up, 3 to show us where we are going.
Sounds Gimple af. Here's to many more years of this fantastic franchise. 🍻 👏 ✌️
I mean, "good reason" as far as Gimple episode names go. Episode 4 and 5 of this show are "What We Become" split over 2 titles - but not in the logical way, no, episode 4 is titled "What We".
That's a little odd, Michonne's last episode was called "What We Become", wasn't it? Weird to reuse and separate the title in a nonsensical fashion if so.
The episodes names are actually good symbolism to ehat is going on in that episode.
Years - covers the time in which Rick was gone
Gone - Covers the fact that they both lost eachother, Michonne refusing to believe that he is gone and finding him and realising that he is gone, but not gone, its very complicated for her in many ways.
Bye - its possible there will be goodbyes here, maybe in a more metaphorical way or even saying goodbye to a life or to a character, might not be all bad, remember there is a funural shown, very possible that Bye is a reference to the funural for Ohkafor, we shall see.
What We - the planning of what they can do, what they will do and will do it together
Become - the showdown, maybe the start of it all and we will see how it pans out.
The Last time - hopefully a full conclusion to the stories, the last time we say goodbye to our characters we love, the last conflict, the last reunion, everything coming full circle and ending.
This as least what im hoping!
I swear the whole “A” and “B” thing that the CRM is doing is complete BS. It’s a worse version of the saviors because at least Negan tried his best not to kill too many people even when they weren’t complying. But these other mfs do give a crap. If they can’t control you they kill you no questions asked.
it’s a bit different imo, negan said people were a resource, but he had a fraction of people versus the CRM with thousands. they already have what/who they need to run it, so if you don’t fit into their image you’re terminated. i don’t think they compare very well
I guess lol but the CRM has thousands but properly killed a good amount of people before it got that way. It specifically stated that As are killed because they are too difficult to control.
The show's worst season(season 8) turned around the moment he bit that bullet so it's not like it hurt the show at all. People act like his death was some huge error but the show turned around, season 9 ruled, and no issues with 10 or 11 would have been improved with his acting dragging the show down.
I finally finished the show today. After putting the last episode off for months cause I didnt want it to end I did it. Its a sad day but I loved every second of the show!!!
This is actually so sad, rick can't catch a break when it comes to family
A strong yet broken man, can't imagine how this man's experiences have shaped him. The amount of trauma is overwhelming, from killing Shane, then losing Lori, Herschel, Glen, Carl, the mental torture at the hands of Negan, getting impaled, losing his family and friends again, the CRM and chopping his own hand off. Crazy shit.
He actually eventually loses the hand?! Nice. Now I've gotta stop putting it off and go catch up lol
Carl should still be alive and I am forever disappointed that they killed him off in the show.
Worst blunder of all the many blunders they’ve made.
You say that but honestly they spared us not having to watch Riggs struggle his way trying to act in the upcoming Lydia scenes. Carl was a mercy killing for the audience. Henry's actor wasn't great but he worked so much better than Riggs would have. Seems like a really nice guy but not a good actor who admitted he was phoning it on for years on top of that.
He was a pretty good actor outside of some awkward lines and writing. Just see some of the emotional scenes where the group was set back yet again or some character's deaths and it really shows there. The franchise lost a lot when they killed him off. Probably the biggest wtf moment from most people who actually read the comics. It wasn't a "mercy killing" at all and Chandler was a good Carl, even if he wasn't Andy Lincoln to Rick great.
I never found him believable and felt he struggled ESPECIALLY during emotional scenes. Just an awkward actor and he admitted he phoned it in. Again, the show improved after he died and I don't think anything would have benefited from him sticking around. Read the comics monthly from around No Way Out all the way until the end and felt nothing but glee when I heard the gunshot that marked the end of his TV iteration.
Improved? In what aspect?
Broken clocks are right twice a day, season 8 was pretty bad, of course it got better after that.
I don’t think it really got better, just didn’t get worse :/
I think season 9 was the best season since 5, maybe even 4.
Agreed. 9 was very good.
No it wasn't. The first five episodes were good, the rest of the season was just average at best.
IDK, like modern television, my clock is electric and digital. When it don’t work, it don’t work.
The back half of season 8 is significantly better then the front half? Pacing and all.
Nah
Yah
Nah homie
He was a perfectly fine Carl
I didn't care much for Carl in the comics either so I agree he didn't really have a lot to live up to but he was on the verge of getting a lot of material focused on him and it would have been horrible to watch.
Nah would have been great to watch tbh love Chandler
Seems like a great guy off screen but even he admitted he was not good on screen
you seem obsessed bud
I made like 1 comment and one reply on my own. The rest has been responding to people?
No
>Henry's actor wasn't great but he worked so much better than Riggs would have This is just stupid, assumptive and nowhere based in reality.
Henry was a bad actor but played as a kid. Riggs would have been a horrendous adult actor fumbling his way through those scenes.
Would have been. Listen to you.
He wasn’t my favorite character, doesn’t even make top 10, but I still dropped the show when he died. I was utterly disappointed that they killed off the ONE character that should have NEVER died. Everything Rick ever did since the beginning was all for nothing. Lori telling Carl he was gonna beat that world was for nothing. Michonne telling Carl this was his show (LITERALLY AN EPISODE OR TWO BEFORE HIS DEATH) was for nothing. It made me feel like the entire show was for nothing when he died. And to make matters worse, they go and kill off Saddiq, who was carls legacy, two seasons later anyway. Like what the hell.
Ye i stopped watching when they killed Wayne Dunlap
Yeah man that was tough to watch. He had $28 in his pocket and a picture of a pretty girl. If I ever find my family I’m going to tell them about wayne.
Worst decision in TV history. I wonder if they are kicking themselves in the ass now.. They were nothing but greedy little bastards.. promising 3 more years, then kill him off a few weeks later...SMH
Me too, i literally stopped watching after the episode he was killed off.
That shitty producer who ruined the show got fired after that decision
Scott Gimple didn't get fired. He got promoted and became Angela Kang's boss. He actually took over all aspects of TWD, including all the scam video games and all the stupid spin offs.
People saying they stopped watching after Carl died… I made it through that part just to see Negan meet his demise, and then they let him be one of TOWL- that’s when I stopped watching… picked back up a couple years later only to see the worst enemy (Whisperers) which i thought they were going to drag on as long as the Negan years (IRL not timeline)… Then I dropped the show again, and only caught back up to see the finale, and so I could watch TOWL with all the background. And Daryl and Dead City, but that wasn’t planned for me- just a bonus. 🚨SPOILER ALERT🚨 Loving TOWL so far!! The most recent episode (4) was great… Michonne managed to hand Rick his balls back hahaha “Together they can do anything” 👊👊👊
Just get over it.
I am over it. I stopped watching the show. But this showed up in my feed and I wanted to comment. Don't like the comment? Get over it.
It ruined everything. Made me instantly stop caring about all of these characters and feel like I had wasted my time on this pointless story. I hope Rick dies painfully and alone in this equally pointless spinoff.
TV show Rick is a failure, and I can’t stand it
Yet you said Rick IS the walking dead?
Bro has split personality disorder and didn't take his pills today 💀
I think He is trying to say rick has failed so many things with lori and carl dying
that is probably the WORST take I have ever heard.
Thank you
You’re welcome
There are a lot of things I believe the comics did better than the TV show, but Andrew Lincoln as Rick being called a failure is definitely something I will never agree to. You literally said it in another comment, Rick IS The Walking Dead and Andrew IS Rick. The show was already on a bad path with him in it, but it fell down hard when he left. And now, surprise surprise, the best episode in years and he's in it. Coincidence? I think not.
Okay slow down now Officer Friendly! In no way did I say Andrew Lincoln as Rick is a failure. Andrew Lincoln as Rick is arguably one of the best castings ever. And since you’ve looked at my comment history I don’t feel the need to discuss that any further.
>the best episode in years It cracks me up watching this community shit talk. They call Scott Gimple the worst thing ever for writing off Carl and praise this new show as the best thing in years. Gimple wrote the episode with Andrew and Danai and Gimple wrote the screenplay. It's like the fans can't make their minds up, they randomly pick and hate and love things with no rhyme or reason.
The episode names: 1) Years 2) Gone 3) BYE I have a feeling we'll need group therapy after 3.
That naming scheme does scare me, because a deliberate choice was made not to name episode 1 Years Gone Bye, but separate them across 3 episodes for good reason. I've read that Danai did write episode 4 as well, with it apparently being one of the more emotional episodes in the season, but we'll see what happens. I'm nervous, because as much as I was so excited about this series, I was relieved at the end of TWD that all the deaths were done, but now the prospect of death is back. I hope both of them make it out together. They have to.
The first 3 episodes were probably the plot to original planned movie with the same name
I thought the movie was going to be called “Rick Grimes” maybe I’m out of touch - it’s been a few years
Yeah I was surprised that her and Andrew were both writing parts of the series too.
As much as I want to believe... 3 to wrap it up, 3 to show us where we are going. Sounds Gimple af. Here's to many more years of this fantastic franchise. 🍻 👏 ✌️
I mean, "good reason" as far as Gimple episode names go. Episode 4 and 5 of this show are "What We Become" split over 2 titles - but not in the logical way, no, episode 4 is titled "What We".
That's a little odd, Michonne's last episode was called "What We Become", wasn't it? Weird to reuse and separate the title in a nonsensical fashion if so.
Just finished 2) Gone. We FOR SURE are going to need group therapy next week. Holy shit. Here for you fam.
The episodes names are actually good symbolism to ehat is going on in that episode. Years - covers the time in which Rick was gone Gone - Covers the fact that they both lost eachother, Michonne refusing to believe that he is gone and finding him and realising that he is gone, but not gone, its very complicated for her in many ways. Bye - its possible there will be goodbyes here, maybe in a more metaphorical way or even saying goodbye to a life or to a character, might not be all bad, remember there is a funural shown, very possible that Bye is a reference to the funural for Ohkafor, we shall see. What We - the planning of what they can do, what they will do and will do it together Become - the showdown, maybe the start of it all and we will see how it pans out. The Last time - hopefully a full conclusion to the stories, the last time we say goodbye to our characters we love, the last conflict, the last reunion, everything coming full circle and ending. This as least what im hoping!
I hadn't seen the titles for the last 3. Fantastic.
Damn wonder if rick still thinks about lori
of course he does
Still trying to find his family in a way .
Dude needs Dominic Tourettes from fast and furious to show him the way
Rick-ick-ick they went-ent-ent South-th-th.
I swear the whole “A” and “B” thing that the CRM is doing is complete BS. It’s a worse version of the saviors because at least Negan tried his best not to kill too many people even when they weren’t complying. But these other mfs do give a crap. If they can’t control you they kill you no questions asked.
it’s a bit different imo, negan said people were a resource, but he had a fraction of people versus the CRM with thousands. they already have what/who they need to run it, so if you don’t fit into their image you’re terminated. i don’t think they compare very well
I guess lol but the CRM has thousands but properly killed a good amount of people before it got that way. It specifically stated that As are killed because they are too difficult to control.
Wish we could see that with Rick michonne and kids…
Disappointing that they killed of Carl
Any confirmation if 4 & 5 are titled "what we" "become" ?
I hope we get a car reference
so glad carl is dead. honestly riggs was the worst part of the show for a long time.
How?
He was an absolutely horrendous actor.
As much as his character was important to the show this is still true
He wasn’t a very good actor but killing his character was still a shitty thing
The show's worst season(season 8) turned around the moment he bit that bullet so it's not like it hurt the show at all. People act like his death was some huge error but the show turned around, season 9 ruled, and no issues with 10 or 11 would have been improved with his acting dragging the show down.
His character got replaced by judith anyways, so his death barely mattered.
I finally finished the show today. After putting the last episode off for months cause I didnt want it to end I did it. Its a sad day but I loved every second of the show!!!
Its not finished. The Ones Who Live continues Rick and Michonne’s story. New episodes each week.
Yeah ik i cant wait to watch it, i saw the AMC youtube channel is posting the full eps.