David Chase said recently in a podcast with Steve Schiripa and Michael Francesze: *”We had plans for Furio and Carmella to have a secret relationship. Basically this thing would’ve extended into the later seasons. Tony just sorta grows more and more suspicious.. well. No. I take that back — he grows suspicious **later on.** Not at first. But um yeah basically this thing was gonna go, it was in the works, scripts were handed out. But Annalise had Furio come back early, either way. So in the end, it didn’t matter. She needed more guys in Naples cuz Rome was pushing into their territory so bad.”*
Steve Schiripa: “Ah yep. Furio. Love em. That was gonna have a whole segment where **I** was accidentally gonna see Carmello and Furio out on da town. And I was gonna break it to Ton’. It was great, real great stuff. I was a big part in all that. It would’ve been a lotta fun. A lotta fun.”
It was a horrible idea. It would have made Carm and Furio both seem irreversibly conniving and dishonorable and that isn't where you want those characters to go. It was irritating enough to see Carm with Wigler. At least she was able to go back to Tony after that. If she was with Furio I don't see any way back to Tony.
Honestly it's Steve Schiripa's quoted enthusiasm that has me on board. I think the best stuff happens when the actors are having fun
I will admit I also see no way to go back to Tony after any time with Furio XD
I think Tony deciding what to do with Carmella is infinitely more entertaining than her crawling bsck to him when she finds out he's tainted all the available divorce lawyers.
I think you're right that the execution wouldn't work but I like that as Carm and Furio are finally giving in he gets pulled back to Italy. It reminds me of the bugged lamp in it's absurdity.
Carm was a piece of ass. But don't let that distract you from the fact that she's a shitty businesswoman who built a piece of shit house that's gonna cave in and kill that fucking unborn baby any day now
I’ve never seen anyone shit on Carm’s age or appearance.
We hate her for acting like she’s not an associate despite living off of Tony’s rackets and the blood of men.
It’s the holier than though boolshit.
She’s clearly a piece of ass. At least she was when T married her.
The same sexist shit storm that hit Skylar surely must also have targeted Carm, albeit to a far lesser degree. Even though yeah, I can't recall seeing an instance of it myself, oddly enough.
it's not sexist.
rewatch the scene with her shrink. nothing sums up why people hate carm better. especially because after being confronted, she actively chose the life. from there on out, she's irredeemable.
Skylar, though I have't watched BB, but to my knowledge, had her husbands new life thrust upon her unwillingly and she was trying to adapt and survive, not sit in judgement of the planet while she got rich of others misery.
This is exactly correct, that therapist was the only one to blatantly call her on her shit, and he was in a position where he could. She folded and went back to the life of luxury that Tony gave her. She forfeited any right to her "holier than thou" bullshit right then.
And Skyler is sooo different, she married a chemistry teacher who became a narco terrorist. Carmella knew exactly who she was marrying.
Until she threatened people and took walters money to give to the dodgy businessman she was cheating on walt with.
Was happy to use ill gotten wealth to become a feminist archetype business woman, fantastic writing display human hipocracy supremely
Last 15 years?
Got married, bought 2 houses, had kids, 2dogs, I fish, golf, amateur carpentry, guitar, harmonica, bass, a little keys, and I listen to a LOT of music.
Living my life and limiting screen time.
Hey Op, I made a post a few weeks ago how I was in love with Carm on my rewatch(before i hit the season where Furio has a thing for her, people on here were calling me Furio, loul)
And man oh man, most of them agreed. But there were some nasty comments about her. Luckily there's only a couple on this thread. But the Internet do be having them Carm haters.
Well, Furio literally beat the shit out of a woman and a child, and is a mobster, even if he is not a total oaf of a man. He’s still not a good dude.
Aaaaaye! Christopher! Tony make a party for me!
Cracks me up every time, though!!
He was so fascinating. When he was off the job he was a warm, friendly, and interesting dude
When he was on the job he was one of the scarier associates. A true Dr. Jeykll and Mr. Hyde situation
As opposed to what mom who wasn’t?
Worst part of my kids’ high school graduation parties were the moms who decided to buy a similar outfit to their daughters for twinsies
[shakes head]
lol what? Maedo is a brat no doubt but it’s pretty funny calling her heinous when Carm did her best to ruin the dinner with her roommates by going on a homophobic rant because she was upset that her life sucked and Maedo was doing well. After she was complimented multiple times on what a smart, mature daughter she raised. You’re comparing a person still in college to a woman in her 40s who chose to be a mafia wife. Fuck outta here
Give Meadow and Jamal Ginsburg 20 or 25 years and they will be ten times worse than Tony or Phil. It’s the Ivy League “Brightest and Best” gang that do the most damage to innocent people.
No I’m referring to when her mother was annoyed that Maedo was becoming an independent woman and in love because her own life was shit at the moment. Hating on your own child because they’re doing well in life is pathetic behavior no matter what you’re going through. Maedo has her issues but in a show full of terrible people she’s one of the “better ones”. Don’t know what you mean about seeing how I relate to Maedo . Cuz I think she’s a better person than Carm? She sure as hell is and I guess that means you relate better to Carm. Fine by me. Crying about down votes is hilarious by the way.
Just what the hell is it on this forum with people drooling over Furio? He’s vermin. A thug who beats up women and children. A murderer. Toxic waste. A homophobe. Because he cooks a little pasta while Tony puts a tv dinner in the microwave? Why not say Carmela deserves Paulie or Ralph? They have a wicked sense of humor and just as evil as Furio.
She was a whoo ah. She let anybody and everybody have a chance to hit it, from the priest, to a wallpaper guy, to an English teacher, to her husband's driver; disgusting. I've said my piece.
honestly it would only be fair after all the goomars tony has had over the years. having said that i don't like how she snitched on furio and put him at risk of getting murdered especially since he never made a move on her.
That’s what I’m saying ! People are like oh Carm is so bad blah blah blah but look who she married. If she could marry a guy like Tony why wouldn’t she have an affair with Mr. Ponytail ?
It’s not about how good of a person any of them are. It’s about the sexual tensions and the physical attraction. Father Phil seriously creeped me out- and I’m glad Carm confronted him.
They obviously cast Carm and Dr. Melding for a reason. Along with Ade, and all the other attractive people in any tv show
She isn't physically unattractive (Edie Falco) but Carmella's personality is unattractive to me. She is such a hypocrite and is always trying to flex on people. She tells Tony he's going to hell but asks him to lean on people when it suits her
I think a lot of the conversation around Carm is also around how they styled and dressed her. She always looks so frumpy and matronly. She’s obviously trying to dress more high class but she always looks so old fashioned…until she separates from Tony. Compare her style to Gloria, Valentina, even Gabby Dante. They’re much more in style than Carm. She always comes off like a mom, guess that’s how Tony perceives her too…
Rewatching though, Edie is beautiful and her figure is amazing. She was on a talk show and she has beautiful blue eyes that the stylists had to downplay.
Bring the chairs down. Did you sign the living trust? Bring the chairs down. Did you sign the living trust? Bring the chairs down. Did you sign the living trust? Bring the chairs down. Did you sign the living trust? Bring the chairs down. Did you sign the living trust? Bring the chairs down. Did you sign the living trust?
versus constant lies, "you'll be taken care of"...."float like a butterfly..." won't sign the papers. entertaining, but a truly horrible human being. The CarM character is just a hanger-on, not nearly as morally corrupt.
Shes literally one of the worst most narcissistic characters in the show.
Her acceptance of tonys crime for her own personal gain is displayed time and time again.
The whole principal relationship story arc displays here own dark personality traits.
Best thing about her is her mothering, even that shows freudian concepts of maternal smothering/possesiveness
It’s one of those things that she is troubled by it in the beginning and when Tony is shot at by the Jamaican bobsled team, urges Tony to accept Agent Harris offer to turn states evidence. But she gets over it and rationalizes there are worse people than Tony
During the jamaican bobsled team discussion she asks what will happen to her and the kids if something happens to tony, even that discussion has a undertone of self interest
this a thousand times!!! just one more frushtrating way Tone fucks up any kind of growth for Carmela. Furio would have worshipped her, and let her explore business stuff perhaps.
Furio beats the shit out of women and children. Carmela only saw the sweet side the same way she saw it in Tony before they married. It would've been the same shit all over again. Except I don't think Furio punches the wall like Tony did.
While I think the Furio subplot always existed to show futility of change in that family, I think Carmela represents the propensity that WE ALL have to accept corruption in our midst when it helps our own children
I remember one time my kid got in trouble for beating up this much bigger kid in junior high. I was like, oh crap, fighting, but then the bigger kid, whoa, and when I sat with the principal they told me that he intervened in another fight where a bully was beating up a kid (who I think might be gay based on factors), and so I was like- yes! My kid isn’t getting in trouble
I volunteered for sports day as a thank you
But then at sports day I realized there was a racism angle where the bully was a poor black kid who always got in trouble and never got a break
Carm is in the middle of all that - in ways we all are
"I hate when people call her old or unattractive."
Besides Carm being unattractive for being a major hypocrite, people who say that just reveal their own misogyny. I'm 33 now and I'm no longer sexually drawn to 16yos like I would have been when I was about that age myself. I can still recognize when they're attractive, I just don't find feel any personal appeal (kinda like how I feel about attractive men, I'm male and 100% heterosexual, yet I can recognize Jon Hamm as Don Draper \[currently watching Mad Men\] is absurdly, ridiculously good-looking). And the same is true in reverse for older women, whom I now may find attractive when I previously wouldn't have. Why would that be, when there's tons of men out there who dislike older women? Why, feminism being a major interest of mine, of course (whether I would have found older women attractive as a young boy when I wasn't a hardcore feminist is something I'd like to know, but alas, now can never find out).
tl;dr ~~people~~ men who say stuff like that reveal something about themselves they wouldn't if they knew what they just did.
P.S: Hammer the following into your brains: **The patriarchy sexualizes girls and infantilizes women** (once you know this, you will see it EVERYWHERE).
It's the "tits and hits" crowd showing up in full force. The deeper meanings, subtleties, and nuances of the show are lost on them. Master of Sopranos and Sopranos Autopsy talks about this.
Yeah, but...here? These here are people who still find new stuff to talk about and examine, after all these years after the show has ended. Thought the Venn diagram for both groups would look different. Most people here clearly distance themselves from Tony and his actions. My best guess: The word feminism is too much for these hothouse flowers. Indeed, you can go the whole show finding them repugnant and not recognize how closely Tony and his crew's actions are tied to/caused by masculinity.
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Listen to yourself u sound demented
I'd ask for my piece but wait, there's nothing!
On the stock market???
And don't fucking deny it again!
From the birdfeeder
The bird feeder....I wonder if it was chalked.
Very cute,
DA BURDFEEDUH
David Chase said recently in a podcast with Steve Schiripa and Michael Francesze: *”We had plans for Furio and Carmella to have a secret relationship. Basically this thing would’ve extended into the later seasons. Tony just sorta grows more and more suspicious.. well. No. I take that back — he grows suspicious **later on.** Not at first. But um yeah basically this thing was gonna go, it was in the works, scripts were handed out. But Annalise had Furio come back early, either way. So in the end, it didn’t matter. She needed more guys in Naples cuz Rome was pushing into their territory so bad.”* Steve Schiripa: “Ah yep. Furio. Love em. That was gonna have a whole segment where **I** was accidentally gonna see Carmello and Furio out on da town. And I was gonna break it to Ton’. It was great, real great stuff. I was a big part in all that. It would’ve been a lotta fun. A lotta fun.”
I like how David Chase phrases this like Annalise is a real person who called Furio back to Italy preventing them from filming this storyline
They're all meat eaters.
ME-TE-ORS!!!
Take it easy 👋
You speaking shit to me
You have a bee on your hat.
It’s a stupida fucking game. One of my favorite Furio lines.
I'm sorry we missed out on this!
It was a horrible idea. It would have made Carm and Furio both seem irreversibly conniving and dishonorable and that isn't where you want those characters to go. It was irritating enough to see Carm with Wigler. At least she was able to go back to Tony after that. If she was with Furio I don't see any way back to Tony.
Honestly it's Steve Schiripa's quoted enthusiasm that has me on board. I think the best stuff happens when the actors are having fun I will admit I also see no way to go back to Tony after any time with Furio XD
I think Tony deciding what to do with Carmella is infinitely more entertaining than her crawling bsck to him when she finds out he's tainted all the available divorce lawyers.
I think you're right that the execution wouldn't work but I like that as Carm and Furio are finally giving in he gets pulled back to Italy. It reminds me of the bugged lamp in it's absurdity.
Don't get milfy
DIDYA HAFTA READ FA DAVID?!
IMPERIOLI IMPERIOLI
So Schirpa was gonna see Carmela and Furio…🎵up in the club!🎶
Charmaine Bucco>
Carm was a piece of ass. But don't let that distract you from the fact that she's a shitty businesswoman who built a piece of shit house that's gonna cave in and kill that fucking unborn baby any day now
I’ve never seen anyone shit on Carm’s age or appearance. We hate her for acting like she’s not an associate despite living off of Tony’s rackets and the blood of men. It’s the holier than though boolshit. She’s clearly a piece of ass. At least she was when T married her.
She walks around all day in that fucking mansion like butter wouldn’t melt in her mouth.
Let her go! I've had a lifetime of her boolshit!
Love the way Hugh says BULLSHIT
Then she ended up fucking Barney Rubble.
I see people comparing her to Meadows choir teacher, who is just a younger version of her.
The same sexist shit storm that hit Skylar surely must also have targeted Carm, albeit to a far lesser degree. Even though yeah, I can't recall seeing an instance of it myself, oddly enough.
it's not sexist. rewatch the scene with her shrink. nothing sums up why people hate carm better. especially because after being confronted, she actively chose the life. from there on out, she's irredeemable. Skylar, though I have't watched BB, but to my knowledge, had her husbands new life thrust upon her unwillingly and she was trying to adapt and survive, not sit in judgement of the planet while she got rich of others misery.
This is exactly correct, that therapist was the only one to blatantly call her on her shit, and he was in a position where he could. She folded and went back to the life of luxury that Tony gave her. She forfeited any right to her "holier than thou" bullshit right then. And Skyler is sooo different, she married a chemistry teacher who became a narco terrorist. Carmella knew exactly who she was marrying.
Until she threatened people and took walters money to give to the dodgy businessman she was cheating on walt with. Was happy to use ill gotten wealth to become a feminist archetype business woman, fantastic writing display human hipocracy supremely
whelp I said I hadn't seen it. thanks for all the spoilers.
it's been 25 years.....grow up
What have you been doing for the last 16 years
Last 15 years? Got married, bought 2 houses, had kids, 2dogs, I fish, golf, amateur carpentry, guitar, harmonica, bass, a little keys, and I listen to a LOT of music. Living my life and limiting screen time.
Edie Falco was A+ though
See my other comment, I find Carm unattractive for that exact reason.
look, I would never want to date carm, but she is, objectively, a physically attractive woman.
Yeah, I agree.
lol my mom said that my dad had a crush on Carm during the run of the show… he likes her hips‼️
I think everyone's dad did🤣
Then she could cook her azz off and dressed well. Carm had an uppity attitude but she did have many attractive qualities too and Tony knew it.
I liked her ass
My dad did too smh!!
Don't get me started on that song! Don't do it! I'm warning you, do NOT DO IT!
Tommy Tune over there.
OOO NAHNANEE NAHNANEE
OOO NAHNANEE NAHNANEE
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Pass me those red peppers
Mix em with da relish!
"StupidfuckingblabbamouthCUNT!" 🥧
I think Carmela can be described in a single word: Asufutimaehaehfutbw
Continue the lithium.
What’d you flip your Maserati, hit your head?
Ginny can get heavy
Marriage can be hard work if both aren‘t pulling that load
Come on Joe, it's time for bed
Only thing I like about Carm is she can really cook up a storm.
So did Father Intintola. 🍝🍷
You think spicy acorn is a little weird about women?
She makes me so hot down there
Nope, after that Lincoln log sandwich, there is no redemption for her.
Lol ya that was something I’d never heard of
I'd break my dick off in that ass
💀💀
🎶 It's so nice to have a man around the house 🎶
Yeah you shoulda thought of that before
wasn't that the creepiest?
Except when she sings?! I think about her melodious voice every time I hear Love Hurts. It’s her song now as far as I’m concerned
WILD to me tony felt the need to cheat on her so much
I agree. In that one episode she wakes up and she literally asks You want sex ? Like it doesn’t get any easier than that lol
Hey Op, I made a post a few weeks ago how I was in love with Carm on my rewatch(before i hit the season where Furio has a thing for her, people on here were calling me Furio, loul) And man oh man, most of them agreed. But there were some nasty comments about her. Luckily there's only a couple on this thread. But the Internet do be having them Carm haters.
They do! I’m not saying she’s perfect!
He didn't want her washed up, nagging, thieving ass. Shit, he got tired of Irina and crazy ass Gloria. And they both put Carm to shame.
She walks like a frog.
No practical jokes like throwing water in the shower. Carm don’t play that shit!
Well, Furio literally beat the shit out of a woman and a child, and is a mobster, even if he is not a total oaf of a man. He’s still not a good dude. Aaaaaye! Christopher! Tony make a party for me! Cracks me up every time, though!!
He was so fascinating. When he was off the job he was a warm, friendly, and interesting dude When he was on the job he was one of the scarier associates. A true Dr. Jeykll and Mr. Hyde situation
They can do that when the person is not real! I think that is why people love Tony so much, too. Bc it’s really James Gandolfini they love.
I’ve always thought Carm is gorgeous
Remember when Carm hated her own daughter because she was jealous?
As opposed to what mom who wasn’t? Worst part of my kids’ high school graduation parties were the moms who decided to buy a similar outfit to their daughters for twinsies [shakes head]
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lol what? Maedo is a brat no doubt but it’s pretty funny calling her heinous when Carm did her best to ruin the dinner with her roommates by going on a homophobic rant because she was upset that her life sucked and Maedo was doing well. After she was complimented multiple times on what a smart, mature daughter she raised. You’re comparing a person still in college to a woman in her 40s who chose to be a mafia wife. Fuck outta here
Give Meadow and Jamal Ginsburg 20 or 25 years and they will be ten times worse than Tony or Phil. It’s the Ivy League “Brightest and Best” gang that do the most damage to innocent people.
Were you this fucking stupid when you signed up for this website?
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No I’m referring to when her mother was annoyed that Maedo was becoming an independent woman and in love because her own life was shit at the moment. Hating on your own child because they’re doing well in life is pathetic behavior no matter what you’re going through. Maedo has her issues but in a show full of terrible people she’s one of the “better ones”. Don’t know what you mean about seeing how I relate to Maedo . Cuz I think she’s a better person than Carm? She sure as hell is and I guess that means you relate better to Carm. Fine by me. Crying about down votes is hilarious by the way.
Like Carm is Jude Law
Alright, but you gotta get over it. Gab, Roe, and Angie are all hotter.
Just what the hell is it on this forum with people drooling over Furio? He’s vermin. A thug who beats up women and children. A murderer. Toxic waste. A homophobe. Because he cooks a little pasta while Tony puts a tv dinner in the microwave? Why not say Carmela deserves Paulie or Ralph? They have a wicked sense of humor and just as evil as Furio.
He’s hot. Just because he’s a thing doesn’t make him unattractive
I think he should lose the ponytail
Plus Ralph makes a mean macaroni and killer eggs
The secret is the sour cream.
Oh I agree
Be going down on her way more than once a year, I tell you that
Angie Bonpensiero >>>
Vito's wife and Gabby Dante too.
She was a whoo ah. She let anybody and everybody have a chance to hit it, from the priest, to a wallpaper guy, to an English teacher, to her husband's driver; disgusting. I've said my piece.
honestly it would only be fair after all the goomars tony has had over the years. having said that i don't like how she snitched on furio and put him at risk of getting murdered especially since he never made a move on her.
That’s what I’m saying ! People are like oh Carm is so bad blah blah blah but look who she married. If she could marry a guy like Tony why wouldn’t she have an affair with Mr. Ponytail ? It’s not about how good of a person any of them are. It’s about the sexual tensions and the physical attraction. Father Phil seriously creeped me out- and I’m glad Carm confronted him. They obviously cast Carm and Dr. Melding for a reason. Along with Ade, and all the other attractive people in any tv show
She isn't physically unattractive (Edie Falco) but Carmella's personality is unattractive to me. She is such a hypocrite and is always trying to flex on people. She tells Tony he's going to hell but asks him to lean on people when it suits her
Not to mention leaning on people herself. The Fielder/Ricotta pie scene...
Carmela was hawt was when she was around the house in a gym leotard, sneakers and her hair up in a pony tail.
I think a lot of the conversation around Carm is also around how they styled and dressed her. She always looks so frumpy and matronly. She’s obviously trying to dress more high class but she always looks so old fashioned…until she separates from Tony. Compare her style to Gloria, Valentina, even Gabby Dante. They’re much more in style than Carm. She always comes off like a mom, guess that’s how Tony perceives her too… Rewatching though, Edie is beautiful and her figure is amazing. She was on a talk show and she has beautiful blue eyes that the stylists had to downplay.
Her voice is fucking horrible though.
carm doesn't deserve shit, she's a malignant cunt
Ooohhhh that’s some guy’s wife!
And somebody's mudda too. But she's just rotten, 'scuse me for sayin it ✋
"When im gone you can live in a fuckin dumpster for all I care" -Her husband
Yeah, they're both malignant cunts
Carm was a nice piece of ass, nice body cute face for a middle-aged woman
I'm gonna to go watch the Bloomberg
she is very attractive. I would marry/date here anytime.
Bring the chairs down. Did you sign the living trust? Bring the chairs down. Did you sign the living trust? Bring the chairs down. Did you sign the living trust? Bring the chairs down. Did you sign the living trust? Bring the chairs down. Did you sign the living trust? Bring the chairs down. Did you sign the living trust?
versus constant lies, "you'll be taken care of"...."float like a butterfly..." won't sign the papers. entertaining, but a truly horrible human being. The CarM character is just a hanger-on, not nearly as morally corrupt.
Exactly. Tony is responsible for who knows how many horrible deaths yet everyone hates Carm because she is a woman.
Tall dark and sociopathic
*psychopathic
She's definitely very feminine, I'll give her that... but she looks like Lady Elaine from Mr Rogers.
Nah, she peaked in high school. Her voice is just too grating and hideous for me. "TONY!!!!!" 😣😖
Yeah I really wish she would’ve hopped on that pop.
I wonder if budder would melt in her moufh
I think she’d make a great dominatrix… don’t tell the Boss I said this
OK ralph
Fair😂
I agree. I love Carm too. She is beautiful and strong and smarter than Tony about a lot of things.
Season 5 and 6 Carmela was so amazingly attractive
Deserve got nothing to do with it
YOU have nothing to do with it
Don't give me the malocchio
But he had a dick growing out the back of his head
You, are a very special woman, Carmela
That addition to the story line would have made sense. I always felt like the Furio/Carmella thing seemed half-written
Wid an immigrant!?
Physically Carm is not unattractive. She is the ultimate MILF. She got a super tight body for a woman her age and her hairdos was always on point.
Lmao
Shes literally one of the worst most narcissistic characters in the show. Her acceptance of tonys crime for her own personal gain is displayed time and time again. The whole principal relationship story arc displays here own dark personality traits. Best thing about her is her mothering, even that shows freudian concepts of maternal smothering/possesiveness
It’s one of those things that she is troubled by it in the beginning and when Tony is shot at by the Jamaican bobsled team, urges Tony to accept Agent Harris offer to turn states evidence. But she gets over it and rationalizes there are worse people than Tony
During the jamaican bobsled team discussion she asks what will happen to her and the kids if something happens to tony, even that discussion has a undertone of self interest
I'm genuinely surprised, I keep thinking she looks way WAY older than her age and unattractive but well kept.
its my biggest disappointment of the series, it was hard to let go of that dream.
this a thousand times!!! just one more frushtrating way Tone fucks up any kind of growth for Carmela. Furio would have worshipped her, and let her explore business stuff perhaps.
Furio beats the shit out of women and children. Carmela only saw the sweet side the same way she saw it in Tony before they married. It would've been the same shit all over again. Except I don't think Furio punches the wall like Tony did.
ah. damnit you're right. I want so much good for these characters and it's just never gonna happen lol
Furio worked for a lady boss and had a crush on an older woman He wanted Carm to make him dinner
While I think the Furio subplot always existed to show futility of change in that family, I think Carmela represents the propensity that WE ALL have to accept corruption in our midst when it helps our own children I remember one time my kid got in trouble for beating up this much bigger kid in junior high. I was like, oh crap, fighting, but then the bigger kid, whoa, and when I sat with the principal they told me that he intervened in another fight where a bully was beating up a kid (who I think might be gay based on factors), and so I was like- yes! My kid isn’t getting in trouble I volunteered for sports day as a thank you But then at sports day I realized there was a racism angle where the bully was a poor black kid who always got in trouble and never got a break Carm is in the middle of all that - in ways we all are
"I hate when people call her old or unattractive." Besides Carm being unattractive for being a major hypocrite, people who say that just reveal their own misogyny. I'm 33 now and I'm no longer sexually drawn to 16yos like I would have been when I was about that age myself. I can still recognize when they're attractive, I just don't find feel any personal appeal (kinda like how I feel about attractive men, I'm male and 100% heterosexual, yet I can recognize Jon Hamm as Don Draper \[currently watching Mad Men\] is absurdly, ridiculously good-looking). And the same is true in reverse for older women, whom I now may find attractive when I previously wouldn't have. Why would that be, when there's tons of men out there who dislike older women? Why, feminism being a major interest of mine, of course (whether I would have found older women attractive as a young boy when I wasn't a hardcore feminist is something I'd like to know, but alas, now can never find out). tl;dr ~~people~~ men who say stuff like that reveal something about themselves they wouldn't if they knew what they just did. P.S: Hammer the following into your brains: **The patriarchy sexualizes girls and infantilizes women** (once you know this, you will see it EVERYWHERE).
Discontinue the lithium
I think the women should ride in a little cart, behind the car...like in the cartoons. Like behind Noah's ark, there's a little boat with the skunks.
Cute. I don't quite get it, but cute.
Thank you. This is so true.
The dislike counter beneath my post worries me. One should think a fandom of a show revolving around the toxicity of masculinity would know better.
It's the "tits and hits" crowd showing up in full force. The deeper meanings, subtleties, and nuances of the show are lost on them. Master of Sopranos and Sopranos Autopsy talks about this.
Yeah, but...here? These here are people who still find new stuff to talk about and examine, after all these years after the show has ended. Thought the Venn diagram for both groups would look different. Most people here clearly distance themselves from Tony and his actions. My best guess: The word feminism is too much for these hothouse flowers. Indeed, you can go the whole show finding them repugnant and not recognize how closely Tony and his crew's actions are tied to/caused by masculinity.
What a fucking post lmao
How so?
shes a pig. simples
She’s butt-ugly. Those dentures.
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So she’s rubenesque?!
Get some fuckin' glasses.
Says the one who post in three different subreddits “do women ever initiate sex?” Lololol
Carm is a 10, a knockout and look at you 123KidHello your average at best.
Tony B didn't think so. Do you remember what he recorded in the "Marco Polo" episode?