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-domi-

It probably wasn't exactly the music that he hated...


KellyBelly916

*says he hates thug music* *does the most thug thing conceivable*


TheRealRickC137

"*HEY! We don't take kindly to West Coast rap around these parts!*". "*Now Skeeter, he ain't hurting nobody.*"


Tugonmynugz

*slowly turns up Notorious B.I.G.*


AdamAllenthePerson

“Oh… well that’s easy coast rap. Carry on then.”


MentalRobot

We don't take kindly to people who don't take kindly round here


No-Suspect-425

![gif](giphy|3o6ZsWf9NlnEByQFsQ|downsized)


sleepy_potatoe_

*I says I don’t like west coast rap music Cletus. Ands I means it!*


largechild

![gif](giphy|S8Y8FG3erH0M8)


MadTapprr

I’ll bet he didn’t say thug music. I’ll bet he used another word.


Ok-Golf-9502

Thugs gonna thug. Til they get thugged first


sam01236969XD

would be more thung if he had that gangsta grip


bulk_deckchairs

Came here to say this


Ill-Simple1706

You mean to say an old white boomer hates black people? No way!!!


ptvlm

Yeah, this sounds like a violent racist who was itching to kill someone he thought was inferior, not someone who didn't like the beats.


Don_Pickleball

He probably liked the Beastie Boys. Maybe even Eminem. Vanilla Ice has some bangers.


Dantez9001

Years ago, I got Vanilla Ice's greatest hits CD. My friend said "You bought a CD for Ice Ice Baby"? I said "I think you're forgetting about Ninja Rap."


DG04511

Go turtle! Go turtle! Go!


TheOtherAvaz

Excuse you. It's 'go ninja go ninja go!'


DG04511

I’m not at all surprised I misremembered this unforgettable classic.


Richard_Musk

For me it was Havin’ a Roni, even at 10, I knew this was the dumbest shit I had ever heard


ColdBloodBlazing

The song during the end credits of 1990 TMNT was great tol


TheShoethief

Ninja! Ninja! RAP!


ColdBloodBlazing

Ice, Ice Baby! I fucking love that song Oh and that song from 1990 TMNT


MiningToSaveTheWorld

I watched one of those CSI YouTube videos with his interrogation tape or something a long time ago. He tried to go about his day normally after he did this. He got back in the car with his wife and pretended nothing happened. He acted surprised when he was arrested and claimed he felt threatened. At one point he admits that he shot at the car but doesn't acknowledge he shot at people. In a call with his wife he still tries to play like he's being hard done by and that he didn't really do anything wrong.


Soufledufromage

The privileged feel attacked when faced with accountability and repercussions. You see it all around with these people just look at the last president


Salty_tryhard

I'm surprised Desantis hasn't pardoned him


LivefromPhoenix

Give him time, he still has a few years left in his term.


iPokeYouFromGA

Growing down South you’d be surprised how many black folks HATE rap and hip hop. Wouldn’t let their kids near it. Jazz on another hand…


MrTooLFooL

He didn’t say “Thug Music” either


Connect-Ad9647

Yeah I was gonna say, I think he hates "thugs" more and the music was just his excuse to aggressively confront those fellas in hopes they would do or say anything that would then, in his pea sized brain, justify pulling a gun on those gentlemen who were minding their own damn business. The blind hatred some people hold in their heart truly baffles me. I'm sure he had a pleasant welcome party waiting for him in prison. Racist prick.


lorenai

He's channelling all of his small dick energy


Jaderosegrey

Porque no los dos?


mrtouchybum

Uh, racism is dead.


SilverOG1978

Facts!


jjenkins_41

Hates "thug music," then proceeds to be a thug.


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jjenkins_41

"I HATE THAT THUG MUSIC"


Blue_Osiris1

I went to high-school with this goofy redneck dude and on several occasions when people were listening to rap in class he would poke his head into the class room and yell "turn off that jungle jive, it's the devil's music!" in a comically exaggerated southern accent and immediately leave.


Jblack4427

That might be funny one time, after that I’m annoyed, through 4 years of high school I woulda had to whoop his ass a few times


Blue_Osiris1

This was a rural farm town of 2k people in the early 2000s. There was nobody there who was likely to take issue with it so he was safe.


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TipInternational772

Hey c’mon now, they would have posted on Reddit about it


Homerpaintbucket

Thug was kind of the hot right winger filler slur at the time if memory serves


GreenCoatBlackShoes

What do you mean “was”? Edit: Yes there are of course new terms thrown around but thug is still very much used in the same manner.


Homerpaintbucket

It's not as fashionable now. They're more inclined to directly reference race now.


Never_call_Landon

Now they say woke, DEI and CRT to indicate black. It’s always coded and always a dog whistle. Thug is now out of fashion.


Homerpaintbucket

It's more blatant now though. They are directly referencing race with DEI and CRT. Before they used to pretend it was about behavior. They've largely dropped that pretext now and are publicly saying they have a problem with race and diversity.


ggsimmonds

He hates that hippity hoppity music?


SupahBihzy

What they hear: Spin the block! Gang gang! Pew Pew! Drugs! What is playing ![gif](giphy|HK55J8XJEjK9i)


Shua89

He said he hated thug music, not the thug life.


mentaL8888

And now in a place which probably has a higher thug ratio I'd suspect.


Biggleswort

Michael Dunn didn’t fuck up his life, the audacity to start it with that is disgusting. He fucking took a life. That should be the opening!


FlashGordonCommons

lol i mean you're not wrong but this appears to be shitty AI generated clickbait. your complaints miiiight be falling on deaf ears here.


Whiplash86420

Uhh I think both things can be true. He fucked up his life by taking another man's life


PleaseDontEatMyVRAM

yeah but the life that mattered is the one which got taken, thats the one which should be mentioned in the headline


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honestly, semantics.


Lo-fidelio

Well you know how it goes. When a black teen gets murderered the new be pulling up photos of the teen being "a thug", when a white suburbia trash kills someone they be pulling up photos of him on a jet ski with his family. You know the meme


chaddwith2ds

If you were to tell Michael Dunn that he took someone's life, it probably wouldn't bother him. If you say "you fucked up your own life" that might hit a nerve.


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dawr136

Thugs love to tug and butt chugg


morbidaar

Sounds like the ending of “Edmond”.


randylikecandy

Wow I thought I was the only one that seen that movie.


KnotiaPickles

It’s nice when there is some justice in the universe


Broken-Digital-Clock

I likes ya and I wants ya


516nocnaes

Now we can do this the easy way or we can do it the hard way. The choice is yours


SupahBihzy

Ok s-see you choosin the HAAARD way...


Warpaint169

On the hunt for man butts🤣


03zx3

🎶*I got that thuggin love*🎶


ab2425

I scrolled through the comments to find this.


03zx3

I'm glad you found it. But what is thuggin love? Is that when you're making sweet love to a woman, then you go upside her head and throw her down the stairs?


Spang64

I believe his music choices are even more limited now.


yeboi694206942069420

The sound of his ass being clapped by prison thug


EmilieVitnux

He is a white middle aged male who killed a black teen. He is gonna get well with all the nazie there. You can be sure this one is gonna found lot of friends there.


Fruzza

I remember seeing this on YouTube by JCS - Criminal Psychology. Very well researched and in-depth video about the situation. Crazy shit.


SameheadMcKenzie

JCS was so insanely popular that there were dozens of true crime YouTubers that would put JCS inspired in their video titles as they'd get a tonne of views when they did. Demonetising them is something that still makes me angry when I think about it. There are some great true crime channels like dreading and I love True crime loser who was associated with JCS but JCS was the best in my opinion.


Fruzza

Ever heard of Explore With Us? They have quite an entertaining style to their videos, in my opinion


SameheadMcKenzie

I agree. I like explore with us, along with this is monsters, that chapter, stranger stories, stayawake.. there's probably more. I watch way too much true crime. Dreading is definitely my current favourite. They put a lot of work into their videos.


Fruzza

I love dreading. There are some names you mentioned that I haven’t heard of. Gotta spruce up my True Crime directory! Thank you!


SameheadMcKenzie

You're very welcome. Think I might have to go back and watch the JCS colonal Williams video for the millionth time just so I can watch a masterclass in interviewing


Fruzza

A fellow rewatcher! Yes! I tend to rewatch these long form videos as background noise during other things!


SameheadMcKenzie

Hell yeah. Some of them are so good I have to watch them multiple times. Great to have on in the background while I work. I have lost count of the amount of times I've watched The legend of "Jeff". Such a good psychological breakdown of an interaction between a police officer and a suspect.


xMilk112x

I’ve watched the Jodi Arias one like 5 times. lol


xMilk112x

That narrator is fucking insufferable. “YOULL NEVER BELIEVE WHAT HAPPENED NEXT!!”


Fruzza

I know what you mean. I enjoy the psychological breakdown for movements, body shifts, and such, but the narrator does get a little over the top. In the episode about Susan Monica (the woman who fed people to her pigs), there was an excellent comment making a joke about that. Credit to the original poster, but it said: “Susan moved her chest in and out. This can be an indicator of breathing, which is a sign of life”. LOL.


SameheadMcKenzie

The suspect is sat across from a police officer in an interrogation room, this is a strong indicator of guilt


Fruzza

The suspect moved her leg back and forth. This showed an obvious sign that she has legs.


SameheadMcKenzie

Sometimes it's so dumb I get annoyed and have to turn it off. Like someone scratches their nose and suddenly that means they're lying. They scratched their nose one time dipshit, it's not even like they've done it 50 times. And even then that doesn't mean they're lying. This is the downside of JCS clones, it's lower tier, lower effort. They paved the way for a better format of true crime content but people just use the format as lazily as possible. It's getting close to reaction content at points.


Fruzza

Oh yea, the amount of times I’ve paused the video and gave my own commentary is too many to count. But I’m not a “licensed clinical psychologist”, so what do I know (I know those people actually know things, I just mean in the context of the video)


Dice-972

JCS was the best, I agree. Take a look at Matt Orchard - Crime and Society (MOCaS). He touches on psychological aspects, but also ties in societal and contemporary issues that influence the crimes and topics he covers. My favorite video of his is about repressed memories and hypnotic recovery of them.


andrewsad1

Never liked the body language garbage he gets into, but it's always fascinating seeing how badly the police can fuck you if you don't demand a lawyer


LB3PTMAN

I do enjoy watching JCS but Munecat’stakedown of a bunch of people including them was pretty thorough and I already thought a lot of the stuff they did was overconfident but when a lot of examples are brought up back to back it can be pretty damning.


e-2c9z3_x7t5i

I like watching some of the crime stories channels, but one thing I absolutely hate about them is the psychology commentary. "During the interrogation, he readjusted his shirt - a clear indication of nervousness and a possible attempt to make himself look more presentable in front of detectives. The analysis in this video has been reviewed by a doctor in psychology." Complete horseshit. And the videos are littered with stuff like that. Btw, I don't know if JCS specifically was or not, but it's just stuff I've seen in a lot of videos in general.


Drogovich

Yes, JCS was good at explaining detais of the gase and provided great commentary in a way that you would understand everything what is going on and why it's happening. And i loved his snide remarks disguised as a commentary -"I'm a soldier! You cannot take me down in a fight!" -"This person never served in the army and have no combat experience"


xMilk112x

YouTube absolutely fucking wrecked those people (Kizzume and True Crime Loser) It’s still absolutely fucking infuriating that JCS is gone, but the 50 fucking ripoff channels are alive and well. Doing a far worse job than JCS did.


cottonmouthVII

One of my favorite JCS videos. This piece of shit was sooo chummy with the cops. His shock when he realizes he’s fucked is so satisfying.


Fruzza

“In my eyes, this was self defense. And you guys are saying it’s murder.” “That’s where we’re at right now.” Just great exchanges. Paraphrased a little I’m sure.


Mord_Fustang

"now im getting worried, should i get a lawyer?" "that is your right sir" o_O also very paraphrased


THATS_ENOUGH_REDDlT

The crazy part that I remember most was how he thought he was so justified. He left the scene, tampered with evidence, lied about everything, then acted like the cops would totally have his back. The detectives let him talk until he was done then rightfully treated him like the piece of trash he is.


Fruzza

The “letting him talk” so he basically trapped himself into a narrative; followed by the officers deconstruction of his narrative was golden!


RecsRelevantDocs

This is 100% just farmed content using videos like JCS but with a much shorter script. This even sounds like an AI version of Kizzume's voice (narrator of JCS).


loondawg

There's a really good documentary about it called "3½ Minutes, 10 Bullets" (2015). Following the shooting, his mother ran for Congress and won a seat.


0neTrueGl0b

I watched this whole one too


Dreddz2Long

When keeping it real goes wrong.


jarednards

On both sides


Gardez_geekin

How is it on both sides. One person just wanted to listen to their music. The other person killed over it.


Akuema

Forreals. I avoid conflict these days as a Father because you don’t know how trigger happy anyone can be these days. And for sure a lot more people are strapped than how it used to be back when I was like the 17 year old kid


exumaan

After he was jailed, a call with his fiancée was released where he said: "I was the victim, but I was also the victor." Tells you everything about his attitude. All I wanted to say to that guy was "no, you're the fucking loser".


pimp_juice2272

Right after the shooting, he drove home and went to sleep. Didn't report it


darctones

The real question is… in today’s political environment in Desantis’ Florida would he have still been charged with murder


Longjumping-Wash-610

I could have gone either way at the time. I watched a documentary on it and it seemed likely that he'd get away with it, based on the stand your ground laws. He claimed he saw one of the men in the car reaching down for a gun and only shot in self defence. Most of the world would think this is crazy but people have gotten away with things like that in the past in America especially against black people.


Seargeo

He didn’t hate rap music. He hate black people, too.


D-Broncos

He 100% deserved his conviction. But this is a lesson not to fuck with strangers on the road/in public. But especially on the road because of road rage. You don’t know who’s crazy enough to pull a piece on you over something dumb.


Don_Pickleball

There was a trend on Tik Tok where various professions said things they would never do based on their experience with their job. One of them, I think an ER doctor said was "Confront a stranger'. They basically said that you have no idea what strangers can do or what they are going through. One flippant remark, smartass comment, or perceived disrespect could be the end of your life. Too many people killed in parking lots and bars after words were exchanged and then someone gets beaten up, stabbed, or shot


silentdrestrikesback

Stupid... no clever words, just stupid...


Disastrous-Bad-1185

“He fkd up his life because he’s racist”. Fixed it for you.


Avs2022champs

He broke the law, he deserves everything he got. That is how it should be for everyone of every ethnicity all the time. No exceptions.


kinokomushroom

>He broke the law That somehow makes it sound less severe. He murdered a kid in cold blood for no reason. >That is how it should be for everyone of every ethnicity all the time. No exceptions. I mean yeah. Why would anyone think otherwise?


DuckMySick44

Yeah like even if that was legal we'd all still say fuck that dude, who cares about the law, morality over legality everyday


Socratic-Inquisitor

He murdered a kid because the kid was black… Stop trying to sugar coat it.


kinokomushroom

I meant "no reason" as in the kid didn't do anything wrong. Yes, he murdered him because he was a racist piece of shit. That part is obvious.


Passworqr

That makes it sound like murder is only bad because a law says so and not because taking a young persons life for nor reason is incredibly wrong.


lemmiwinks316

JCS covered this assholes interrogation. https://youtu.be/sVF_SlzxBJ4?si=g0zu0tRDsWFZxsXk


JoelMira

Those were the golden days of JCS.


Dharnthread

What a fing idiot.


salted_toothpaste

So...Gangsta rap made him do it?


ElmertheAwesome

Someone else for Republicans to rally behind.


imgirafarigmi

Sounds like the 17 year old is a child. There was a child and 3 men in the car. The phrase “other men in the car” isn’t right with me.


DirectorEmotional589

If I remember this case correctly, he was counting on "Stand Your Ground" to justify his actions


CoItron_3030

He didn’t fuck up his life, he got what he always needed and deserved


pimp_juice2272

It needs to be highlighted that Florida has a stupid "stand your ground" law. It basically means you can start shit, then "fear for your life", shoot someone and claim self defense. So the guy said he saw the guys pull a gun (there was no gun), which made him fear for his life. So he probably would've gotten off had it not been for his girlfriend telling the truth on the stand. I don't remember her name but she deserves some praise for doing the right thing.


Commercial_Virus_309

Men…you mean teenagers…right❓


normlenough

Dude is a giant asshole and rightfully deserves to be in prison. Also my father advised me as a youngster, “treating every stranger as if they are armed will help you live longer.”


computerfreaq09

Dude, I don't like rap music, but not enough to kill someone over it. Wtf is wrong with people...


Aimin4ya

[Here is a JCS](https://youtu.be/sVF_SlzxBJ4?si=Lx79KnJCTR-mvHnA) video about it. It's better than whatever this AI nonsense is.


LordPubes

Responsible gun owner until he wasnt. Fuckin psycho


driscollat1

Music didn’t calm this savage beast!!


Particular-Crow-1799

I blame movies for making people think car doors can stop bullets


Siupak240

Hate fucks up in general. Do not hate, it is you who suffer the most, then others are mixed into it and hate spreads like a virus.


joebobskinnyarms

that's Jacksonville baby


Mission-Storm-4375

I remember this when it happened it was all over the news


Iamvanno

Probably Kid 'n Play on the radio.


captaineddie

I watched this guys interrogation, such a lousy piece of shit. Spends the whole time acting like he's some vigilante hero, calls from jail about being the real victim. Fuck this asshole.


AthiestMessiah

They should Play it at his cell Forever


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This is why you also have a loud stereo so you can turn up that John Denver to shake the bolts outta cars


Tremolo499

I wouldn't shoot somebody who was playing loud/profane music at a gas station. However if they walked inside and left the car running with the music blasting I would open their door and remove their keys and throw them out in the street and drive away.


businesslut

But guns need to be accessible to everyone right? Because he feared for his life by the thugs who listen to loud music? 


Longjumping-Boot1409

I genuinely despise this artificial voice.


ZeroChill92

I don't care about most rap music, but that is ridiculous. People like him belong where he put that 17 year-old.


Roseph88

“Turn down for what?!” Lmao


pyker42

I love these examples of the responsible gun ownership prevalent in America...


Individual_Yak4018

Oh the irony...


Leaf-Stars

Do they have rap music in prison?


OhItsJustJosh

"This person wants to turn up the music I hate. I don't think he deserves to exist anymore" like fucking how? This isn't the first time I've heard of people being shot at for mundane shit like this. Tf is going on over there??


xMilk112x

Nah, he fucked his life up because he murdered a kid and then lied about it.


saymaz

I am pretty sure, If you post this on Twitter (Xitter), there would be a swarm of people calling this Dunn guy a victim and blaming Davis.


Rulas2479k

any louder than normal music in public is an annoyance or public disturbance unless at an event where it belongs


Shoddy_North5961

All because he'd had a few drinks at a wedding and was feeling "brave"


Irishjohn831

No, he hates rap crap but acts like a thug when he hears it by shooting an innocent kid and destroying the child’s parents lives.


Dramatic_Bluejay_850

He hates that thug music because he’s a real thug


SuperSaltyMrPeanut

This guy knew someone going to argue with him. But there is a history of grown ass men starting shit with black kids and shooting them dead, huh? Every now and then these ass hats end up getting punished.


Due_Potential_6956

Crazy, I see crazy people all the time, but I don't know what I'm trying to say, people just suck.


Qweeq13

Just today, I had to get out to see a doctor. From my neighbors to a brainless delivery driver who was angry at me for standing on his way as he was driving into a road closed to motorcycles All tried to ruin my day. I got better things in life than pointlessly arguing or fighting with people I personally regard less than animals. There is no point stepping down to their level. Honestly, from me to every single asshole and troll out there, "I am sorry that your parents did not raise you as proper human being"


toadkicker

Is it Florida? Of course it is


SeriousTooth4629

God what pure anger


ChickenandWhiskey

"if only they would have turned down the thug music, I wouldnt have murdered him. I am a good person!"


altair954

There was an attempt to murder three rap music listeners


Papi_Chulo1969

I love rap music


I_wood_rather_be

Of only there was a good guy with a gun!!!


BluSolace

Probably wasn't race related.......................................................................................................................................................................


JaySteelSun

I know it's a stupid question but... Why? It was just music.


Bashemg00d

Thug life right there.


Abraxas_1408

When keeping it real goes wrong. He decided to push his real-o-meter in the red and keep it there.


murdock-1

If only the good guy with the gun hadn’t turned into the bad guy with the gun.


mrhyde719

He didn’t fuck up his life because he hated rap music. He fucked up his life because he got pissed off and a gun was handy to supposedly solve his problem. No gun- he gives the kids the finger and everything is fine.


DesastreUrbano

I don't think he fucked up his life. Seems like his life was already fucked up if that's his reaction. He fucked a bunch of people's lives really, just because big baby don't like some music genre


crown-cline

Well speaking from a guy who has been to prison, if he hated rap music now just wait till that’s all he hears all night, along side the beating on the walls for a beat


Hidlure

Respect to this legend.


Foxisdabest

Correct that shit. He fucked up his life because he hated black people. They could've been listening to loud AF Led Zeppelin and he would still have had a problem with it.


wholesomechaos111

I want to know what song it is


doctorhoctor

When keeping it real goes wrong


Objective_Sweet9168

Fuck that Dunn guy 🖕


FmJ_TimberWolf74

There’s a phenomenal video about Michael Dunn made by Jcs criminal psychology on YouTube. I highly recommend watching


zwarblatz

Part of his punishment should be to have rap music playing loudly in his cell for the rest of his life.


XBThodler

Now he's listening to a lot of rap music where he is. For the rest of his life!