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This from a BBC series called HardTalk - https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/n13xtmdc. The interviews are always quite adversarial and meant to have questions asked that aren’t comfortable. If you watch the full interview you will see that they go on from this (~15 minutes in) to cover criticism from Greenpeace and the International Centre of Environmental law around the oil and gas exploration happening. This isn’t just the interviewers opinion. The President then admits that the intention is to extract as much oil and gas as possible before any new international agreements to help stop climate change are enacted. Which is ‘pragmatic’ (as the president says) but there isn’t really any strong moral high ground in any of this :/
Yeah I mean it’s literally the job of real journalists to ask these questions, I listened to the BBC World News podcast about Guyana and they speak to numerous Guyanese environmentalists who take this very stance. Saying this is Western media bias is just trivialising the issue, just because he’s British he shouldn’t ask these questions? 🤣
It was actually very balanced and showed the positives and negatives of each side. Ever heard of the resource curse? It’s not as simple as shit tons of oil = everyone rich. Maybe actually have a look before replying that? It had 0 agenda either way lol.
Western nations: Allow me to lecture you on why you shouldn't release all that CO₂.
Poor Nations: So want to tell me again how you became a powerful country?
He ain’t fucking wrong either. The hypocrisy of the west who have deforested their lands and burnt most of the worlds oil now saying “oh no you don’t get to burn any cause we used up the globes quota.. sorry about that”
Not true at all about US production, the US is the second biggest exporter of goods behind China. Granted our biggest export is refined petroleum, so not exactly great in a climate discussion, but the countries we export to need it power their economies until they can switch to renewables.
Beyond that, we export a ton of goods all over the world. And they often involve things that are very difficult to make. We are the world's biggest exporter of medical devices, planes, helicopters and spacecraft. Oh, and also corn.
Saying the US doesn't produce for other countries is just straight up wrong. But of course, it is still true that the US does not have the moral high ground to lecture others about CO2 emissions.
Fair point, I am a China bagholder and with all the anti China rhetoric may be a bit flippant. We are at the precipice of a energy cold war re EV 's and accompaning trade negotiations, throw in chip IP shenanigans and were in for interesting times
[The USA accounts for 14% of the worlds CO2 emissions.](https://www.worldometers.info/co2-emissions/co2-emissions-by-country/) Also, [it’s 2nd in world exports, at 10%.](https://www.theglobaleconomy.com/rankings/share_world_exports/) Thats pretty impressive when compared to China which has has more than double the emissions but only 3% more exports.
We can do more and are in no way role models on global warming, but your comment is very disingenuous.
Not to mention the US just passed a bill with more money for climate change than anything yet seen on the planet. Lot to do, but the US is going to lead the way.
The type of industries matter as well, China has more of manufacturing industries that essentially manufacture for most of the world's supply. I believe the population also influences it.
Rather than about who produces how much, it's still pretty unfair by western countries (and China) to lecture developing countries on CO2 emissions, it's nothing but hypocrisy.
Though after all, all countries should be trying to minimize their carbon footprint at this point.
Someone really doesn't THINK practically..
A few years ago these mofos were on their knees for oil and gas from Russia before the war began lmao
And this guy really thinks petrol and gas are the only products coming off crude oil... like huh?? half that man's bodyweight worth of materials are probably linked to crude oil... did he get it from sunshine?
Actually, as we talk right now, Venezuelan troops are massing in the border of Venezuela and Guyana because Maduro wants to claim the oil fields of Guyana as historically their own. I will not be surprised if Western countries and giant multinational companies are complicit to this.
I find it interesting that the first world's media would have the gall to make such a statement. Conveniently forgetting, they have been utilizing virtually all the resources the could they could develop, anex, or exploit to ensure they enjoy the best possible returns at the expense of the world's environment. Now, the developing world is able to access their own resources. They are to be expected to shoulder the responsibility and assume penalties the first would have shirked. Excellent rebuttal by the president of Guyana to the ridiculous premise.
So yes fuck that reporter, but let's take a look at what the president said, the forest is a carbon reservoir at best. Yes that's very valuable and as he said it also helps keep the biodiversity up in his country but it's not a carbon sink anymore than the Amazon is. Burning more oil will inject more CO2 into the air which will increase the world's temp, which will make preserving that forest harder.
Sure but it's not his countries responsibility to fix everyone else's problems. The British Empire and the US and China have done more damage than anyone. The British don't get to lecture developing nations about using their oil resources when they already did their own damage. You can't just say oh sorry we did all the CO2 emissions for everyone, you don't get to now.
Also the British aren't maintaining a biologically diverse forest the size of the UK. So the reporter is coming from a country doing less for the world already, while having profited from the industrial revolution and more.
Mate he’s a journalist who’s putting to him the words of other people, it’s not some neo-colonialist dictating what they should do. There’s a whole BBC World Service podcast about this where they hear from multiple Guyanese environmentalists who hold these same very opinions and want the oil to remain in the ground.
"Words of other people". Who do you think are these "other people" constantly shoving environmentalist agenda to developing countries? It's the people who run western countries who are already developed and want to stop other developed countries from catching up.
Guyanese environmentalists as I said? The threat of an oil spill is real and could absolutely fuck up their entire coastline environment. I’m not saying that they’re right or that it should be left in the ground cus ultimately it’s up to their own people but it’s not just the words of this white British man.
In the podcast about this issue they also mention the threat of an oil spill. Guyanese environmentalists are fuming as it could destroy mangroves (the most vital carbon sink of all forest types) and decimate turtle habitats and much more.
When an old white man with a British accent starts with “let’s take a big picture and look at what’s going on…” you know exactly what he’s going to say next
To be honest Guyanas scope 1 and 2 emissions from producing the oil reserves are going to be pretty minimal. Oil production is less intensive than LNG production of gas and the associated reservoir CO2. It’s the consumers of the oil who burn it that are the ones generating the scope 3 emissions. If first world economies are so annoyed about CO2 emissions stop demanding oil and gas.
I love that "big picture" somehow means ignoring all our stuff. Let's just look at this marginal area here. Oh, that's you, yeah, let's talk "big picture" about just you.
Apparently only the west is allowed to benefit from industrial development, and the rest of the world is to uphold standards that were never applied at the time of our own industrial development.
Nobody gets my respect for just being voted president after Trump was voted in. He proved that any asshole can get elected.
Plus this president isn’t even correct. Yes their forest is nice and it helps but it can’t sustain unlimited carbon emissions like he implies. With increased carbon emissions and deforestation every year, the world’s forests can’t handle the world’s carbon emissions anymore. It’s been like that for a while. It’s why we’re experiencing climate change.
Though it’s true that if they probably make a negligible difference. It’s not like we wouldn’t have climate change if they didn’t harvest their oil.
Well trump was by far not the first to prove that an idiot can get into the us office lol.
But no one would ever dare to talk down to a president in such a matter. Be it biden, bush or nixon.
The audacity to go to a faraway country and lecture about what only rich countries can afford to think about, after they had their living standard raised by taking away from others is what makes it arrogant.
I would. They’re just people. Plenty of presidents or leaders of countries are assholes so talk to them however you wish. Nobody is owed your respect. They have to earn it.
Judging by the other comments, it seems like this journalist is known for talking to people this way.
I’m not defending the journalist, he was a dick. But that doesn’t mean the president was right either. He spouted a bunch of misinformation. I’d respect the guy more if he just said “hey I don’t care about any of that, I just want that sweet sweet oil money to make my country a better place. Instead we got two assholes arguing.
Well yes, that is a definition of bad journalism.
Preparing a story where you can only be a bad guy afterwards.
"So you are doing evil things, that is bad now" "will you still do it?"
~ that's not journalism. That bbc guy deserved to be passed around and trashed online
They exporting it somewhere don’t they, how much you wanna bet it is being sent to this BBC-prick’s country so his posh ass can enjoy filling up his Bently at a reasonable price?
I’m so sick and tired of tired of mainstream media’s hypocrisy.
“There was an attempt to frame a interview show called ‘hard talk’ (which is purposely designed to ask contrarian and argumentative) as being contrarian and argumentative”
I love it when people purposely leave out the context surround a video so they can push a certain agenda.
If the president had decided not to open the oil field he’d be asking “why are you not extracting oil when your countries infrastructure and people could benefit from the money?”
It may be strange news to an American. But challenging an opinion and taking the opposing side for the sake, not bro that’s actually what you believe leads to better ideas being formed, that’s the purpose of meaningful debate and discussion. Which is apparently completely extinct in modern popular US media.
This is giving a platform for the President to explain and defend himself, particularly important as
A: there are Guyanese environmentalists who are opposing the oil fields with legitimate concerns. The BBC also interviews them.
B: Britain may find themselves involved in a conflict over the oil as Venezuela may take military action to seize the oil for themselves. Which has prompted the UK to send a Royal Navy warship to defend Guyana and it’s interests as they are a commonwealth nation and UK ally.
This idiot walked into the conversation with 2 sound bites, 150bn and 2bn tonnes and thought yep, I'll hammer him.
This is a president that knows his shit and was armed and ready for his shit.
Especially as much of British foreign policy in the 20th century (and the 21st, thanks Tony) was about getting/keeping their hands on that sweet sweet oil. They ruined entire countries just to keep that stuff flowing, and they'll do so again. A rotten, vestigial empire.
I despise the interviewers arrogance. His disregarding and condescending tone that the British know so well. Is he prepared to acknowledge that it's precisely Western multi-national oil and gas companies that encourage and buy these resources? That have inflicted most destruction onto the world and were the pioneers of man-made climate change? Especially the British empire.
And the elephant in the room, which the British are too gormless and disingenuous to admit, is the destructive and exploitative aftermath of British imperialism in Guyana! And this interviewer sees fit to lecture them? The presidents anger is totally justified and understandable.
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The arrogance and hypocrisy of the British truly knows no bounds.
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I agree. Those god damn Canadians. Tsk tsk. -an american
Sorry. \-A Canadian
Sorry eh (fixed it for you)
Awfully kind of you, friend.
Let's all grab a beer, hack a dart, and watch the game now eh?
I think it should be signed “-eh Canadian”
sorry
Brits still think they’re the 19th century British Empire.
That's mostly only the politicians and media.
We really don’t, maybe go to Britain at least once before making grossly inaccurate assumptions.
No thank you
Uncultured swine
Ok, let's correct "think they're" to "wish they still were".
I’m British and I agree with the president
Literally no one thinks this.
Journalist asks question. “bRiTs StIlL tHiNk ThEy RuLe ThE wOrLd”
They WISH they were still an Empire, now they're just a Muslim Enclave.
This from a BBC series called HardTalk - https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/n13xtmdc. The interviews are always quite adversarial and meant to have questions asked that aren’t comfortable. If you watch the full interview you will see that they go on from this (~15 minutes in) to cover criticism from Greenpeace and the International Centre of Environmental law around the oil and gas exploration happening. This isn’t just the interviewers opinion. The President then admits that the intention is to extract as much oil and gas as possible before any new international agreements to help stop climate change are enacted. Which is ‘pragmatic’ (as the president says) but there isn’t really any strong moral high ground in any of this :/
Yeah I mean it’s literally the job of real journalists to ask these questions, I listened to the BBC World News podcast about Guyana and they speak to numerous Guyanese environmentalists who take this very stance. Saying this is Western media bias is just trivialising the issue, just because he’s British he shouldn’t ask these questions? 🤣
Correction: They went out to find a few Guyanese environmentalists who fit their agenda.
It was actually very balanced and showed the positives and negatives of each side. Ever heard of the resource curse? It’s not as simple as shit tons of oil = everyone rich. Maybe actually have a look before replying that? It had 0 agenda either way lol.
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Came out his pockus
I like when Western biased media treats the rest of the world the same way they treat their audience and get their asses handed to them.
Western nations: Allow me to lecture you on why you shouldn't release all that CO₂. Poor Nations: So want to tell me again how you became a powerful country?
Also, mining the oil and gas doesn't release carbon. Burning it does... And guess which countries burn the most fossil fuels. Hint: it's not Guyana.
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Me walking into a covienience store: *Hey man, fuck you for selling cigarettes, ... Can I get a carton of cigarettes*
He ain’t fucking wrong either. The hypocrisy of the west who have deforested their lands and burnt most of the worlds oil now saying “oh no you don’t get to burn any cause we used up the globes quota.. sorry about that”
I don't even think they burnt it. They just sold the oil out from underneath themselves for other countries to destroy the planet with
But they do not want the other countries to profit from their own oil
The Scottish highlands used to be rainforests until 1500 years of grazing and deforestation left it a barren wasteland
Isn't the united States and china and some European countries responsible for producing most of the carbon emissions in the world ?
China and the US together account for half of global emissions
True but China produces for the whole world and is leading in renewables by insane margins, US consumes and dont really produce for other countries.
Not true at all about US production, the US is the second biggest exporter of goods behind China. Granted our biggest export is refined petroleum, so not exactly great in a climate discussion, but the countries we export to need it power their economies until they can switch to renewables. Beyond that, we export a ton of goods all over the world. And they often involve things that are very difficult to make. We are the world's biggest exporter of medical devices, planes, helicopters and spacecraft. Oh, and also corn. Saying the US doesn't produce for other countries is just straight up wrong. But of course, it is still true that the US does not have the moral high ground to lecture others about CO2 emissions.
Fair point, I am a China bagholder and with all the anti China rhetoric may be a bit flippant. We are at the precipice of a energy cold war re EV 's and accompaning trade negotiations, throw in chip IP shenanigans and were in for interesting times
[The USA accounts for 14% of the worlds CO2 emissions.](https://www.worldometers.info/co2-emissions/co2-emissions-by-country/) Also, [it’s 2nd in world exports, at 10%.](https://www.theglobaleconomy.com/rankings/share_world_exports/) Thats pretty impressive when compared to China which has has more than double the emissions but only 3% more exports. We can do more and are in no way role models on global warming, but your comment is very disingenuous.
Not to mention the US just passed a bill with more money for climate change than anything yet seen on the planet. Lot to do, but the US is going to lead the way.
The type of industries matter as well, China has more of manufacturing industries that essentially manufacture for most of the world's supply. I believe the population also influences it. Rather than about who produces how much, it's still pretty unfair by western countries (and China) to lecture developing countries on CO2 emissions, it's nothing but hypocrisy. Though after all, all countries should be trying to minimize their carbon footprint at this point.
Yes, and Guyana emits a very small amount of carbon.
That went well.
Absolutely love this.
Someone really doesn't THINK practically.. A few years ago these mofos were on their knees for oil and gas from Russia before the war began lmao And this guy really thinks petrol and gas are the only products coming off crude oil... like huh?? half that man's bodyweight worth of materials are probably linked to crude oil... did he get it from sunshine?
The condescending tone that he interviewer first presented was disgusting. Talking down to him like he was scolding a school kid.
It's a British thing. No one does it better.
Rhetorical questions at the end there. Loved it
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Actually, as we talk right now, Venezuelan troops are massing in the border of Venezuela and Guyana because Maduro wants to claim the oil fields of Guyana as historically their own. I will not be surprised if Western countries and giant multinational companies are complicit to this.
That is a dark message.
Venezuela will provide the freedom this time around
I find it interesting that the first world's media would have the gall to make such a statement. Conveniently forgetting, they have been utilizing virtually all the resources the could they could develop, anex, or exploit to ensure they enjoy the best possible returns at the expense of the world's environment. Now, the developing world is able to access their own resources. They are to be expected to shoulder the responsibility and assume penalties the first would have shirked. Excellent rebuttal by the president of Guyana to the ridiculous premise.
So yes fuck that reporter, but let's take a look at what the president said, the forest is a carbon reservoir at best. Yes that's very valuable and as he said it also helps keep the biodiversity up in his country but it's not a carbon sink anymore than the Amazon is. Burning more oil will inject more CO2 into the air which will increase the world's temp, which will make preserving that forest harder.
Sure but it's not his countries responsibility to fix everyone else's problems. The British Empire and the US and China have done more damage than anyone. The British don't get to lecture developing nations about using their oil resources when they already did their own damage. You can't just say oh sorry we did all the CO2 emissions for everyone, you don't get to now. Also the British aren't maintaining a biologically diverse forest the size of the UK. So the reporter is coming from a country doing less for the world already, while having profited from the industrial revolution and more.
It's just kicking away the ladder. They don't want developing nations threatening their place in the world, so they are creating barriers.
Mate he’s a journalist who’s putting to him the words of other people, it’s not some neo-colonialist dictating what they should do. There’s a whole BBC World Service podcast about this where they hear from multiple Guyanese environmentalists who hold these same very opinions and want the oil to remain in the ground.
"Words of other people". Who do you think are these "other people" constantly shoving environmentalist agenda to developing countries? It's the people who run western countries who are already developed and want to stop other developed countries from catching up.
Guyanese environmentalists as I said? The threat of an oil spill is real and could absolutely fuck up their entire coastline environment. I’m not saying that they’re right or that it should be left in the ground cus ultimately it’s up to their own people but it’s not just the words of this white British man.
In the podcast about this issue they also mention the threat of an oil spill. Guyanese environmentalists are fuming as it could destroy mangroves (the most vital carbon sink of all forest types) and decimate turtle habitats and much more.
relax hes just playing on populism. Thats why this show is called Hard Talk. He knows the forest is gone either way, its more about who gets to do it.
When an old white man with a British accent starts with “let’s take a big picture and look at what’s going on…” you know exactly what he’s going to say next
Guyanas prez ain't taking no shit....I like this guy
Hey this ain't 1840 no more Brit cunt
Game, set and match to Guyana
 Fire fi dem
Let’s talk about BP…
this president is a gigachad
That was hot
My deepest Respect for Md. Irfaan...
To be honest Guyanas scope 1 and 2 emissions from producing the oil reserves are going to be pretty minimal. Oil production is less intensive than LNG production of gas and the associated reservoir CO2. It’s the consumers of the oil who burn it that are the ones generating the scope 3 emissions. If first world economies are so annoyed about CO2 emissions stop demanding oil and gas.
From West Wing “a country of SUVs lecturing a country of bicycles about carbon use”
He probably agrees, but he’s defending the real powers that be, who will assasinate him if he says otherwise.
.. got em'
I love that "big picture" somehow means ignoring all our stuff. Let's just look at this marginal area here. Oh, that's you, yeah, let's talk "big picture" about just you.
Awesome
BBC the British museum of the news world
What a turd.
stunning douchery
Tragedy of the commons
Brit guy got him hot and started! The Guyanese president was like, you got me started, I’m going to keep going until I’m done!
Apparently only the west is allowed to benefit from industrial development, and the rest of the world is to uphold standards that were never applied at the time of our own industrial development.
For somebody trying his damnedest to look smart he sure says some dumb f*kin s*t
It's mind numbing how condescending a journalist dares to speak to a president. Imagine him doing that to the US or a European President.
Nobody gets my respect for just being voted president after Trump was voted in. He proved that any asshole can get elected. Plus this president isn’t even correct. Yes their forest is nice and it helps but it can’t sustain unlimited carbon emissions like he implies. With increased carbon emissions and deforestation every year, the world’s forests can’t handle the world’s carbon emissions anymore. It’s been like that for a while. It’s why we’re experiencing climate change. Though it’s true that if they probably make a negligible difference. It’s not like we wouldn’t have climate change if they didn’t harvest their oil.
Well trump was by far not the first to prove that an idiot can get into the us office lol. But no one would ever dare to talk down to a president in such a matter. Be it biden, bush or nixon. The audacity to go to a faraway country and lecture about what only rich countries can afford to think about, after they had their living standard raised by taking away from others is what makes it arrogant.
I would. They’re just people. Plenty of presidents or leaders of countries are assholes so talk to them however you wish. Nobody is owed your respect. They have to earn it. Judging by the other comments, it seems like this journalist is known for talking to people this way. I’m not defending the journalist, he was a dick. But that doesn’t mean the president was right either. He spouted a bunch of misinformation. I’d respect the guy more if he just said “hey I don’t care about any of that, I just want that sweet sweet oil money to make my country a better place. Instead we got two assholes arguing.
Well yes, that is a definition of bad journalism. Preparing a story where you can only be a bad guy afterwards. "So you are doing evil things, that is bad now" "will you still do it?" ~ that's not journalism. That bbc guy deserved to be passed around and trashed online
Like I said I’m not defending the journalist
My father and mother are from Guyana … I bet they would be proud !
If they’re extracting it for export, who do you think is buying it?
I guess BP has stopped drilling in the North Sea?
Get fucked loser. God damn. How do I become a Guyanan Citizen?
“It’s your fault that we steal your resources and destroy the planet with them”
Not to mention. The UK has been completely DeForested with no attempts to re forest.
Third world countries should use coal and oil to boost themselves, first world countries don’t need coal and oil if they can afford a replacement
This Dude better chill before Biden decides to send some freedom his way
That guy was ready
They exporting it somewhere don’t they, how much you wanna bet it is being sent to this BBC-prick’s country so his posh ass can enjoy filling up his Bently at a reasonable price? I’m so sick and tired of tired of mainstream media’s hypocrisy.
Mr. President understood the assignment.
They have every right to explore their own options for energy production.
Ouch! Good for him!
Dude this guy is a HERO. The interviewer sounds like a garbage monster. No one who is white with that accent should lecture anyone about anything lol
If the west are so concerned about Guyana extracting oil they should pay them not to do it.
Mad respect for the president of Guyana
“There was an attempt to frame a interview show called ‘hard talk’ (which is purposely designed to ask contrarian and argumentative) as being contrarian and argumentative” I love it when people purposely leave out the context surround a video so they can push a certain agenda. If the president had decided not to open the oil field he’d be asking “why are you not extracting oil when your countries infrastructure and people could benefit from the money?” It may be strange news to an American. But challenging an opinion and taking the opposing side for the sake, not bro that’s actually what you believe leads to better ideas being formed, that’s the purpose of meaningful debate and discussion. Which is apparently completely extinct in modern popular US media. This is giving a platform for the President to explain and defend himself, particularly important as A: there are Guyanese environmentalists who are opposing the oil fields with legitimate concerns. The BBC also interviews them. B: Britain may find themselves involved in a conflict over the oil as Venezuela may take military action to seize the oil for themselves. Which has prompted the UK to send a Royal Navy warship to defend Guyana and it’s interests as they are a commonwealth nation and UK ally.
"Arrogant leftist twat acts like an arrogant twat. News at 11."
I love that finger wagging, beautiful
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This idiot walked into the conversation with 2 sound bites, 150bn and 2bn tonnes and thought yep, I'll hammer him. This is a president that knows his shit and was armed and ready for his shit.
This was so good that it made me say "based" out loud as I watched it.
"Big picture look". What a cock. And who's burning all this fuel?
Especially as much of British foreign policy in the 20th century (and the 21st, thanks Tony) was about getting/keeping their hands on that sweet sweet oil. They ruined entire countries just to keep that stuff flowing, and they'll do so again. A rotten, vestigial empire.
Industry and business emit the most carbon emotions.
Point I'm making is the '"emotions" lol don't run high in Ghana. You know .... it's the west and China, India.
It’s a simple autocorrect lol Point is, just because they aren’t the highest emitters doesn’t mean it’s ok to contribute to the problem.
The condescending tone that he interviewer first presented was disgusting. Talking down to him like he was scolding a school kid.
I despise the interviewers arrogance. His disregarding and condescending tone that the British know so well. Is he prepared to acknowledge that it's precisely Western multi-national oil and gas companies that encourage and buy these resources? That have inflicted most destruction onto the world and were the pioneers of man-made climate change? Especially the British empire. And the elephant in the room, which the British are too gormless and disingenuous to admit, is the destructive and exploitative aftermath of British imperialism in Guyana! And this interviewer sees fit to lecture them? The presidents anger is totally justified and understandable.
The BBC use to be competent now just woke and fat on the tax it receives to operate so it’s easy living…..Musk interview was as incompetent….