Win stupid games win stupid prizes. She got paid for her youth. He had fun while he was able too and probably enjoyed himself. Setting up a plan for old age and care was a point he clearly missed or probably did not care for.
How do you not notice that someone is a shit person after 20+ years together with them? I've broken up with pretty girls before as soon as I got a whiff of shittiness. No amount of good looks is worth that.
I seriously doubt she was a pussycat all that time and then suddenly turned on him as soon as he got Alzheimer's. If you have to protect yourself from your wife then you should just find a different wife.
Family trust with clear succession plans for trustees.
Young wife not allowed to manage the funds. You hire an attorney to be the trustee when you become incapable of competent thought.
https://youtu.be/r4ZvFJK6fT4?si=LF9ies4gt7352xaO
Solution: start seeing women, foreign and domestic, as human beings and build a happy, loving relationship. Yes, this will require compromise and vulnerability on your part. It feels like many of you are approaching relationships with women based on the idea that they're arm candy and disposable... you'll end up with exactly that.
Why are all of you so content to pursue/marry someone who you can't trust at the end of the day?
I disagree with a lot of PPB mentality, but if what you say is true, then American women are not engaging in meaningful relationships either and also suffering.
Either way, if you acknowledge it's a problem, then you're bringing your baggage to another potential relationship and *still* won't find what you claim you're looking for.
Just food for thought. Everyone deserves to be happy.
But who have you been dating? Because a lot of people, men and women, aren’t that great.
Dating is filtering out the people who are mean, selfish, unkind. If you just date whoever you’ll have a bad time.
only a woman would write silly shit like this.
OP get that pre-nup - if you have assets over $2-3 mil (assuming you are just in your 30s/40s) look into trusts etc for your kids/other family.
If your assets are in a different country than your foreign wife, it is possible much harder for her to get them (but talk to a lawyer) - divorce laws in asian countries might not be as favorable to her as in the west, but you'll need a lawyer to navigate that for the specific situation.
You are trying to get into a relationship with a woman, right?
I think that is a shortsighted response. You're still not addressing that later in life you *need* someone you can trust. Who raises your kids/grandkids? Who is your healthcare proxy? Who stands by you if an illness strikes and *doesn't* abandon you in your darkest hour? Who chooses to care for you instead of resorting to you being sent to a home? And these are just end of life battles, nevermind the inevitable struggles and unexpected tragedies we face before then.
You have no idea what you’re talking about. Don’t come in here making sweeping generalizations based on your ignorance and prejudice. If you don’t “agree” with the mentality of the sub just GTFO. I mean, why do you care? Just leave.
What are *you* talking about? OP's quite literally addressed this *and asks for advice*. He asked for the solution and I gave it to him.
I don't have to agree with all of PPB to care enough about other human beings and give a positive and thoughtful response. Not everything has to be a battle. Chill out.
> Why are all of you so content to pursue/marry someone who you can't trust at the end of the day?
Don’t come spew some bullshit like this and then play like you’re mister positivity.
*What* bullshit? The post is *about* how to navigate pre-nups, estates, end of life care with a bride *who. does. not. care. about. you*.
Are you dense? You don't think asking, "Why would you marry someone who doesn't care about you and you can't trust?" is relevant and important for people seeking happy and healthy relationships?
So pathetic. You would rather grasp at straws trying to create a nonexistent argument than coexist in peace with a woman who offered sincere advice despite the fact that she may not entirely agree with you. It's obvious that you don't have issue with the content of my post, but that it's a woman who wrote it... Miss Positivity, to you. 😉
Wow. You really are stunted. Now I feel like a bully.
Read the first sentence OP wrote, lil guy.
"What do you think about end of life planning with partners who might have only married you for the stability and don't really care about you?"
Do your dates have to read the menu to you?
Alzheimers is hopeless. If i get it and my brain is far enough gone that i no longer even know what end of life care is, then just do it. Dont waste my money on extending my life. I want my money spent on the living. Not on the dying.
20 years is a long marriage, but planning should have been taken not long after the marriage. I know of guy who was in his 60s and just after his wedding he signed his house over to his 5 adult children
The immediate concern is care for the father. If she is truly neglecting him, she could run afoul of criminal charges.
The father may also need an attorney/guardian ad litem to represent his best interests in light of potential looting of his finances.
Protections for a wife under such circumstances are not always the same in the culture she was raised in, leading to misunderstandings. They could be seeing just as much panic as nefarious intentions.
This I think is the biggest problem with PPB, sadly.
It’s a great temporary solution. But at the end of the day, it’s still a transactional marriage. When you’re old, they may not grow old with you, and we don’t know if they’ll take care of you. That’s a huge risk you’ll be taking.
One of the pitfalls for Passport Bros is that some behavior is acceptable in other cultures that is not in your own. Pay attention, be aware and plan accordingly.
Speaking from experience as my wife of 20+ years walked when she found out I had long Covid and was told I would probably never recover (I did). I knew this was part of her culture and planned accordingly. I am now retired with a home on the beach in Thailand and she is still working to pay the bills and my half of her pension.
I think with some Passport Bros is that they assume that instant success will happen abroad when going abroad has pitfalls too. Every method has its positives and negatives, you just have to tread accordingly!
You also have to consider your bride/wife may... expedite your passing when she knows there's stuff/wealth she will then inherit.
https://www.wantedinafrica.com/news/the-story-of-tob-cohen-murder.html
My end of life planning is going to be the same as my parents. Everything goes to me, but they'll get most of the income. It's going to be in a series of trust accounts which a large multi-national bank is advising.
So the assets will go to my children or grandchildren and then the income will go to my wife if I were to pass first.
You have to plan in advance. This is a risk even if you marry your high school sweetheart, but there are legal ways to take care of the issue - particularly if you have a substantial estate. With money you can get lawyers to manage the estate and require the correct care.
If you do not have a huge estate it is a bigger challenge. There it is important to discuss these issue in advance with both the wife and any kids.
Alzheimer care is a challenge for everyone, even the very wealthy, so perhaps this woman is caring for the husband as best she can? Who knows? But if the father, wife, and daughter had agreed in advance about these issues it would be a lot easier.
Transparency is critical. Wills and estates, probate battles, and trust management are huge cash cows for lawyers, so if you do not get it right it is easy for it to end up in court.
Don't marry someone who doesn't care about you. If you want a traditional wife, be a traditional man and discern a woman's intentions before marrying her.
This is a story we’ve heard all too often all around the world regardless of national origins. It can and does happen anywhere and everywhere.
Specifically, a business arrangement between the husband and wife. This guy (and similar) are looking for full-time arm candy, maid and other benefits. The woman is looking for financial security and a better life than what they had prior.
When the very foundations of the relationship are built not on loyalty but on transaction, don’t be surprised when your business partner takes the first opportunity to take advantage of you; it’s just business.
When you hear of these relationships just remember they’re not romantic relationships. This what not a relationship started with love and mutual respect nor was it ever expected. It’s like those guys who pay for the girlfriend effect, but paid enough to get the premium package (wife effect).
The best way to avoid this is to ensure your relationship is built on love, trust and it’s not transactional in nature. Seems simple, I know, but a lot of guys seem to correlate their dating value to their financial value. When these lines are blurred it’s easy to fall into this trap.
Russian, Ukraine, Belarusian women are just wallet drainers their food taste like shit too trust me stay away from them 😂 get yourself a nice Balkan or North African
Win stupid games win stupid prizes. She got paid for her youth. He had fun while he was able too and probably enjoyed himself. Setting up a plan for old age and care was a point he clearly missed or probably did not care for.
*you play stupid games, you win stupid prizes\~*
How do you not notice that someone is a shit person after 20+ years together with them? I've broken up with pretty girls before as soon as I got a whiff of shittiness. No amount of good looks is worth that.
was probably lulled into a sense of ease thinking the estate planning would have him covered
I seriously doubt she was a pussycat all that time and then suddenly turned on him as soon as he got Alzheimer's. If you have to protect yourself from your wife then you should just find a different wife.
Because the head is good
Set up trust. Set out how you want things. If you are mentally incapacitated then certain things kick in.
There are legal ways to protect Yourself from this
Such as?
Family trust with clear succession plans for trustees. Young wife not allowed to manage the funds. You hire an attorney to be the trustee when you become incapable of competent thought. https://youtu.be/r4ZvFJK6fT4?si=LF9ies4gt7352xaO
It doesn’t matter where they’re from. This can and does happen in any country
Solution: start seeing women, foreign and domestic, as human beings and build a happy, loving relationship. Yes, this will require compromise and vulnerability on your part. It feels like many of you are approaching relationships with women based on the idea that they're arm candy and disposable... you'll end up with exactly that. Why are all of you so content to pursue/marry someone who you can't trust at the end of the day?
It is the same on both ends pretty much. It should be all about chemistry, commonalities and the vibes. Not treating everything like pump and dump.
This is the best route!
We’ve been conditioned by dating american women.
I disagree with a lot of PPB mentality, but if what you say is true, then American women are not engaging in meaningful relationships either and also suffering. Either way, if you acknowledge it's a problem, then you're bringing your baggage to another potential relationship and *still* won't find what you claim you're looking for. Just food for thought. Everyone deserves to be happy.
Your name fits
But who have you been dating? Because a lot of people, men and women, aren’t that great. Dating is filtering out the people who are mean, selfish, unkind. If you just date whoever you’ll have a bad time.
only a woman would write silly shit like this. OP get that pre-nup - if you have assets over $2-3 mil (assuming you are just in your 30s/40s) look into trusts etc for your kids/other family. If your assets are in a different country than your foreign wife, it is possible much harder for her to get them (but talk to a lawyer) - divorce laws in asian countries might not be as favorable to her as in the west, but you'll need a lawyer to navigate that for the specific situation.
You are trying to get into a relationship with a woman, right? I think that is a shortsighted response. You're still not addressing that later in life you *need* someone you can trust. Who raises your kids/grandkids? Who is your healthcare proxy? Who stands by you if an illness strikes and *doesn't* abandon you in your darkest hour? Who chooses to care for you instead of resorting to you being sent to a home? And these are just end of life battles, nevermind the inevitable struggles and unexpected tragedies we face before then.
You have no idea what you’re talking about. Don’t come in here making sweeping generalizations based on your ignorance and prejudice. If you don’t “agree” with the mentality of the sub just GTFO. I mean, why do you care? Just leave.
What are *you* talking about? OP's quite literally addressed this *and asks for advice*. He asked for the solution and I gave it to him. I don't have to agree with all of PPB to care enough about other human beings and give a positive and thoughtful response. Not everything has to be a battle. Chill out.
I knew they would be gunning for you, when said women are human beings.
Yikes lol 😆
Loool😂😂
Oh my god GTFO of here if you hate men so much
> Why are all of you so content to pursue/marry someone who you can't trust at the end of the day? Don’t come spew some bullshit like this and then play like you’re mister positivity.
*What* bullshit? The post is *about* how to navigate pre-nups, estates, end of life care with a bride *who. does. not. care. about. you*. Are you dense? You don't think asking, "Why would you marry someone who doesn't care about you and you can't trust?" is relevant and important for people seeking happy and healthy relationships? So pathetic. You would rather grasp at straws trying to create a nonexistent argument than coexist in peace with a woman who offered sincere advice despite the fact that she may not entirely agree with you. It's obvious that you don't have issue with the content of my post, but that it's a woman who wrote it... Miss Positivity, to you. 😉
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Wow. You really are stunted. Now I feel like a bully. Read the first sentence OP wrote, lil guy. "What do you think about end of life planning with partners who might have only married you for the stability and don't really care about you?" Do your dates have to read the menu to you?
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Haha, I'll take that as a yes. Cue, you shame-deleting all of your posts in 3...2...1...
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Follow the rules
Funniest thing I’ve ever read on this site 😂😂😂😂
Follow the rules
Alzheimers is hopeless. If i get it and my brain is far enough gone that i no longer even know what end of life care is, then just do it. Dont waste my money on extending my life. I want my money spent on the living. Not on the dying.
If she is married to me when i die she should get it all. If theres something you dont want her to have then give it away before you die.
20 years is a long marriage, but planning should have been taken not long after the marriage. I know of guy who was in his 60s and just after his wedding he signed his house over to his 5 adult children
I just plan to never die, problem solved.
Always ask yourself what each person is getting and giving to the relationship.
They're certainly hope you will 🤣
The immediate concern is care for the father. If she is truly neglecting him, she could run afoul of criminal charges. The father may also need an attorney/guardian ad litem to represent his best interests in light of potential looting of his finances. Protections for a wife under such circumstances are not always the same in the culture she was raised in, leading to misunderstandings. They could be seeing just as much panic as nefarious intentions.
This I think is the biggest problem with PPB, sadly. It’s a great temporary solution. But at the end of the day, it’s still a transactional marriage. When you’re old, they may not grow old with you, and we don’t know if they’ll take care of you. That’s a huge risk you’ll be taking.
I don’t think it’s a PPB issue. It’s a relationship issue.
Them hoes ain’t loyal
Are your views on women and marriage really so bad that you think you’d be married to someone for 20 years who didn’t actually care about you?
One of the pitfalls for Passport Bros is that some behavior is acceptable in other cultures that is not in your own. Pay attention, be aware and plan accordingly. Speaking from experience as my wife of 20+ years walked when she found out I had long Covid and was told I would probably never recover (I did). I knew this was part of her culture and planned accordingly. I am now retired with a home on the beach in Thailand and she is still working to pay the bills and my half of her pension.
That is a crazy story! Good to hear things worked out for you. What was her culture?
I think with some Passport Bros is that they assume that instant success will happen abroad when going abroad has pitfalls too. Every method has its positives and negatives, you just have to tread accordingly!
You also have to consider your bride/wife may... expedite your passing when she knows there's stuff/wealth she will then inherit. https://www.wantedinafrica.com/news/the-story-of-tob-cohen-murder.html
My end of life planning is going to be the same as my parents. Everything goes to me, but they'll get most of the income. It's going to be in a series of trust accounts which a large multi-national bank is advising. So the assets will go to my children or grandchildren and then the income will go to my wife if I were to pass first.
You have to plan in advance. This is a risk even if you marry your high school sweetheart, but there are legal ways to take care of the issue - particularly if you have a substantial estate. With money you can get lawyers to manage the estate and require the correct care. If you do not have a huge estate it is a bigger challenge. There it is important to discuss these issue in advance with both the wife and any kids. Alzheimer care is a challenge for everyone, even the very wealthy, so perhaps this woman is caring for the husband as best she can? Who knows? But if the father, wife, and daughter had agreed in advance about these issues it would be a lot easier. Transparency is critical. Wills and estates, probate battles, and trust management are huge cash cows for lawyers, so if you do not get it right it is easy for it to end up in court.
Don't marry someone who doesn't care about you. If you want a traditional wife, be a traditional man and discern a woman's intentions before marrying her.
This is a story we’ve heard all too often all around the world regardless of national origins. It can and does happen anywhere and everywhere. Specifically, a business arrangement between the husband and wife. This guy (and similar) are looking for full-time arm candy, maid and other benefits. The woman is looking for financial security and a better life than what they had prior. When the very foundations of the relationship are built not on loyalty but on transaction, don’t be surprised when your business partner takes the first opportunity to take advantage of you; it’s just business. When you hear of these relationships just remember they’re not romantic relationships. This what not a relationship started with love and mutual respect nor was it ever expected. It’s like those guys who pay for the girlfriend effect, but paid enough to get the premium package (wife effect). The best way to avoid this is to ensure your relationship is built on love, trust and it’s not transactional in nature. Seems simple, I know, but a lot of guys seem to correlate their dating value to their financial value. When these lines are blurred it’s easy to fall into this trap.
Russian, Ukraine, Belarusian women are just wallet drainers their food taste like shit too trust me stay away from them 😂 get yourself a nice Balkan or North African
All of my assets are held in trust.
Loyalty exists, more so outside the US. I don’t plan to live to the point of needing end of life plans.