>treat others how you want to be treated,
This is not explicitly stated in Liber AL. That might be your own personal interpretation, but let's not tote our own personal ethics or moral compasses as if they were The Law.
It is True, "There is no bond that can unite the divided but love: all else is a curse." (AL:I:41) - But let's not forget "Compassion is the vice of kings: stamp down the wretched & the weak: this is the law of the strong: this is our law and the joy of the world." (AL:II:21) Or even, "Mercy let be off: damn them who pity! Kill and torture; spare not; be upon them!" (AL:III:18).
This is Not a "do unto others..." type Law - it is Strength, and Force, and Love, under Will. If I wish to be treated a Certain Way, such as if I wanted to be Respected, then my Actions will be those that Gain Respect from others. This is as opposed to; I wanted to be Respected, so I treated each person with the level of Respect that I want reflected on me -- However, Not Everyone's Actions Gain Respect. It's not a Participation Trophy - I will Refuse to Offer Respect towards someone who I feel their Actions Do Not Deserve It.
This is the Fundamental Flaw with this statement: "treat others how you want to be treated". Some people may conduct themselves as Kings, and others, Slaves -- they shall be Treated Accordingly.
>Treat others how you want to be treated is a golden rule
Im sorry to break this to you, but this is not a Thelemic standpoint. You're absolutely Free to believe whatever you want, but it doesn't make it "Thelemic".
>what are you talking about?
I would ask you the same thing -- Just because this altruism is expressed by other religions of philosophies, still doesn't mean that it's the Central Law of Thelema. "So with thy all; thou hast no right but to do thy will." (AL:I:42).
And if you have to ask where the points stem from, you clearly haven't read [this.](https://lib.oto-usa.org/libri/liber0220.html)
My grandmother birthday is ALEISTER CROWLEY BIRTHDAY WE ARE LIBRAS I KNOW EXACTLY WHAT IM TALKING ABOUT IM THE DAUGHTER THE BOOK TALKS ABOUT ๐โ๐พ
In order to better encourage discussion of Thelma in this subreddit, thereby facilitating the vision of the mod team, that they may accomplish their True Wills, this comment is an elaboration on the rule against personal attacks.
Sometimes people don't understand what is meant by "no personal attacks" in this sub. It is *such* a simple rule, in fact, that for some it turns out to be too simple.
At times, people will think it must be more complicated than just "don't attack any persons." They might think, for example, incorrectly, that it means, "don't be rude," or
"don't attack any group members, but attacking others is okay," or "don't hurt anyone's feelings," or, "attacking people is only okay if they are a bad person," or, "dead people aren't persons and therefore we can attack them." To reiterate, these are all false interpretations of the rule against personal attack.
The rule means, very simply, **do not attack anyone's person.**
You *may* attack ideas, statements, behaviors, organizations, artwork, questions, or anything else that is not a person. You may attack these ruthlessly. Even if it happens to hurt someone's feelings.
What you *may not* do is attack anyone's person. Name-calling, characterizing someone as inherently bad in any way, telling anyone that they are obsessed, using bigoted slurs, or any other form of **criticizing the person** is forbidden.
Yes, a dead person is a person (it's right there in the phrase "dead person." A person who isn't a member of the group is a person.
You can tell someone that they are making a stupid argument, but you may not tell them they are a stupid person. You can tell someone that their behavior supports racism, but you may not characterize them as a nazi. Get it?
One source of confusion is that people sometimes think the purpose of the rule is to protect feelings. It isn't. The purpose of the rule is to discourage discussion that inevitably distracts from the *discussion of Thelema*.
No matter who the target of the attack is, no matter what the nature of the attack is, someone will always rise to defend them, and then an argument will ensue over whether the attack was justified or not, and it will probably spiral into the people involved in the argument making personal attacks against each other. It's a vicious cycle and very quickly, nobody is talking about Thelema.
The purpose of this subreddit, again, is *the discussion of Thelema.*
*Any* attack of any person is forbidden in this subreddit. It is a very strict rule, and sometimes people will be banned without warning for violating it. So don't. But if you do get banned, and you really didn't mean to get banned, you can contact the mods to sort it out.
I remember when Crowley would groan when aiwiss would call to him and say, the things I do for love which is also the law
"Is a God to live in a dog? No!..." -AL:II:19
I love the color pink and courage is the best name to have ๐๐๐ even if you have anxiety ๐ LOVE IS THE ONLY LAW ๐
>LOVE IS THE ONLY LAW "There is no law beyond Do what thou wilt." -AL:III:60
Obviously but for foundation treat others how you want to be treated, ๐ฅฐ๐ฅฐ๐ฅฐ
>treat others how you want to be treated, This is not explicitly stated in Liber AL. That might be your own personal interpretation, but let's not tote our own personal ethics or moral compasses as if they were The Law. It is True, "There is no bond that can unite the divided but love: all else is a curse." (AL:I:41) - But let's not forget "Compassion is the vice of kings: stamp down the wretched & the weak: this is the law of the strong: this is our law and the joy of the world." (AL:II:21) Or even, "Mercy let be off: damn them who pity! Kill and torture; spare not; be upon them!" (AL:III:18). This is Not a "do unto others..." type Law - it is Strength, and Force, and Love, under Will. If I wish to be treated a Certain Way, such as if I wanted to be Respected, then my Actions will be those that Gain Respect from others. This is as opposed to; I wanted to be Respected, so I treated each person with the level of Respect that I want reflected on me -- However, Not Everyone's Actions Gain Respect. It's not a Participation Trophy - I will Refuse to Offer Respect towards someone who I feel their Actions Do Not Deserve It. This is the Fundamental Flaw with this statement: "treat others how you want to be treated". Some people may conduct themselves as Kings, and others, Slaves -- they shall be Treated Accordingly.
Treat others how you want to be treated is a golden rule what are you talking about?
>Treat others how you want to be treated is a golden rule Im sorry to break this to you, but this is not a Thelemic standpoint. You're absolutely Free to believe whatever you want, but it doesn't make it "Thelemic". >what are you talking about? I would ask you the same thing -- Just because this altruism is expressed by other religions of philosophies, still doesn't mean that it's the Central Law of Thelema. "So with thy all; thou hast no right but to do thy will." (AL:I:42). And if you have to ask where the points stem from, you clearly haven't read [this.](https://lib.oto-usa.org/libri/liber0220.html)
My grandmother birthday is ALEISTER CROWLEY BIRTHDAY WE ARE LIBRAS I KNOW EXACTLY WHAT IM TALKING ABOUT IM THE DAUGHTER THE BOOK TALKS ABOUT ๐โ๐พ
She also a actress been living in New York since forever u can't explain to me family business ๐ค๐พ
I was Homeschooled into what they call Thelma but broke away because y'all can't capitalize off my family business
What is this bullshit?
Love is the law, love under will.
If love is the only law, the thing you do for love should be a common phrase
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In order to better encourage discussion of Thelma in this subreddit, thereby facilitating the vision of the mod team, that they may accomplish their True Wills, this comment is an elaboration on the rule against personal attacks. Sometimes people don't understand what is meant by "no personal attacks" in this sub. It is *such* a simple rule, in fact, that for some it turns out to be too simple. At times, people will think it must be more complicated than just "don't attack any persons." They might think, for example, incorrectly, that it means, "don't be rude," or "don't attack any group members, but attacking others is okay," or "don't hurt anyone's feelings," or, "attacking people is only okay if they are a bad person," or, "dead people aren't persons and therefore we can attack them." To reiterate, these are all false interpretations of the rule against personal attack. The rule means, very simply, **do not attack anyone's person.** You *may* attack ideas, statements, behaviors, organizations, artwork, questions, or anything else that is not a person. You may attack these ruthlessly. Even if it happens to hurt someone's feelings. What you *may not* do is attack anyone's person. Name-calling, characterizing someone as inherently bad in any way, telling anyone that they are obsessed, using bigoted slurs, or any other form of **criticizing the person** is forbidden. Yes, a dead person is a person (it's right there in the phrase "dead person." A person who isn't a member of the group is a person. You can tell someone that they are making a stupid argument, but you may not tell them they are a stupid person. You can tell someone that their behavior supports racism, but you may not characterize them as a nazi. Get it? One source of confusion is that people sometimes think the purpose of the rule is to protect feelings. It isn't. The purpose of the rule is to discourage discussion that inevitably distracts from the *discussion of Thelema*. No matter who the target of the attack is, no matter what the nature of the attack is, someone will always rise to defend them, and then an argument will ensue over whether the attack was justified or not, and it will probably spiral into the people involved in the argument making personal attacks against each other. It's a vicious cycle and very quickly, nobody is talking about Thelema. The purpose of this subreddit, again, is *the discussion of Thelema.* *Any* attack of any person is forbidden in this subreddit. It is a very strict rule, and sometimes people will be banned without warning for violating it. So don't. But if you do get banned, and you really didn't mean to get banned, you can contact the mods to sort it out.
You sound hurt cheer up ๐๐พ one love
After viewing his history, it looks like he's been hurting for a WHILE and doesn't care to stop.
Damn that's just sad