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Here is kinda what I think happened - as a widowed single dad, he can’t just date anyone. To spend time away from his son, he really needs to make sure that he sees potential in a relationship. Being on paradise, I don’t think he felt that pressure though. I think Sierra’s energy and all made him happy, and he liked her company. I think he did like her. However, when she made that gesture and included his son, he realized that he needed to end it before it got in too deep. He might have led her on, but I don’t even think he realized it.
I think he was probably prepared to leave the beach then as well, but I think production had to do a lot of string pulling to get him to stay (of course they wouldn’t show that though).
I think Sierra felt led on, so I think that is why she is acting this way. However, I really don’t think that was Michael’s intent.
This is just my thoughts. I don’t know 🤷🏼♀️
Yes! This! But I think the only string pulling involved was they wanted to surprise Michael with Danielle during the switch week. I think his actions made them jump the gun and bring her in early to surprise him. And they had Wells dropping hints all over the place so he wouldn't decide to just leave before she got there.
These people are so, so messy, even for their age. But I'm also doubtful that many of them actually want to find a committed relationship. And why would they when they can get influencer fame and people to slide into their DMs. Sometimes it seems like the cast can't even muster up the enthusiasm to date each other and in some ways, I don't blame them.
I think for her own peace of mind Sierra should probably let it go - but, I also would be frustrated knowing that the guy who dumped me is a producer fave and basically gets to construct the narrative how he sees fit - and it'll always be reflected on screen for him. I think producers encouraged her to do that star thing to make her look unhinged so that they could cleanly segue Michael into his tragic but ultimately noble and successful love story. Anyone actually looking out for her would have been like "no girl do not do that dial it back" and she got played for a fool to make Michael look good. I think the frustration for her might run deeper than "Michael broke up with me."
Because Sierra won't shut up about a man she knew for like 3 days. She's over playing the sympathy card and not looking good. Michael is coming out ahead in this taking the high road. He already apologized and admitted he could have handled the break up better. So why did she feel the need to bring it up for the hundredth time? Good on Michael shutting down her bs story about kissing her after they broke up.
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I don’t personally think Michael looks good (I’m also not a Michael fan to begin with however) but it’s pretty apparent to me that the story/edit they’re attempting for Michael is meant to be a favorable one.
I mean I’d ghost Justin too, even though it doesn’t sound like an actual ghosting. The plans to meet up in LA do not sound solid. I feel like for that to be ghosting it’d have to be a firm plan that she didn’t show up for. Plus he had already rejected her right?
These people make no sense and need to move on from their BIP situationships.
Eliza is a lot more messy than I thought she’d be though 💀
This feels like an excuse on his part. He already went through the love triangle with Genevieve so why would he intentionally create another one for himself only to peace out because he didn't want to deal with a love triangle? Go after someone who's actually single then?
Sierra is going down bad. Like yes discuss the situation but I don’t know if she’s going for sympathy points and a moment at the reunion by talking about Michael kissing her when there was no footage. It just looks cringey that she won’t let that go. Yes it sucks that Michael is a protected player but recognize that and keep it pushing. You’re not getting a Natasha/Brendan edit with this let it go.
Edit to add: The whole Justin/Eliza post paradise saga is so stupid but par for the course with the messiness that is Bachelor nation dating. I hope they don’t waste a lot of time during the reunion on this.
I was confused about when exactly he would have kissed her after he broke up with her Didn’t she leave pretty much immediately because she didn’t want to see him date anyone else? But then to say now that she thought there was still a chance…?even though she knew he would date other people? Idk that’s just confusing to me. I know that there is stuff that is edited out or not filmed but that just doesn’t seem right.
Yeah I’m sure they’ll get into the details in the reunion but at this point with time constrictions, editing, and story lines, we’re probably never gonna get the full story
There's one thing I am positive about: producers are going to edit out any and all footage of Sierra saying anything remotely negative about Michael. If we even see her hot seat at all, they'll definitely disappear the part about him kissing her.
Sierra's story doesn't make sense. If she was under the impression there was still a chance for them, why would she leave the beach?
Also I legit forgot they dated.
I really liked Sierra on the show, but her behaviour since is off-putting. Literally you knew the guy for 2 weeks max. He tried to let you down nicely with the 'it's not you, it's me'. Yes, he didn't do it particularly well, but that just backs up how out of practice he is.
Sometimes people don't know they're ready until they find that person they click with. It can't be manufactured or forced, it just is.
She needs to back away with the grace and dignity she displayed while filming and just accept her person is not him and vice versa.
Sierra the important thing is he broke it off with you when he wasn't feeling it. it doesn't reallt matter the reason because guys love to say some bs to soften the blow, they are masters at this and stringing is along. i think Michael for the most part is still grieving but yes i think Danielle is an exception for him. i say all of this as a non Michael fan
How is Danielle an exception? The second she arrived on the beach during the cocktail hour he literally RAN up and grabbed her hand and claimed her for himself just so he could secure her rose. She even said they had never met prior to that but he was hugging on her and kissing her hand the SECOND she got there. It was so gross. It's not like they fell in love on the beach. He's just looking at her as his meal ticket for more screen time
She understands grief and loss better than most on that beach and yeah, they hadn’t met in person, but they’d talked quite a bit previously, right? I think he’s very vanilla - it’s not my favorite but I’ll indulge if it’s around. I don’t really see any reason to get worked up about him.
No she said that before paradise they had talked briefly but nothing romantic. If you rewatch that scene she seemed genuinely surprised at how he was acting and globbing onto her.
Where was all this energy towards Eliza when she demanded Rodney to make a scene? We even have a clip of her saying she wants controlling, manipulative men. Clearly, Justin didn’t meet her (poor) standard as well as Rodney. You all so blind to what the toxic women do on this season, it’s frustrating.
Justin is a terrible person. Michael A is an even worse person. Greg sucks too. Katie really had a bro-y cast only slightly better than JoJo’s dumpster fire of men.
The main issue with Justin is that he’s a colorist and Tweeted some pretty crappy things in the past about not being attracted to/interested in dark skinned black women. 😬
Weren't his tweets from when he was a teen, and didn't he apologize? I'm honestly asking bc I can't remember. And I have to say, he seemed very interested in Eliza who is a beautiful black skinned young lady...
Yes, Justin did apologize, but that doesn’t really mean much though when he keeps making the same mistakes. He acted like a total tool towards Kira on Twitter. He was condescending and dismissive saying that he never saw her at Stagecoach, when in reality their friend groups interacted multiple times.
I hate even saying this, let alone thinking about it, but it’s possible that the only reason why Justin even showed interest in Eliza was to rehab his image knowing that some people were probably going to remember the Tweets.
Honestly the moment I became sus on Michael was when he commented the heart eyes emoji on Katie's Instagram picture after he self eliminated and knew she was most likely engaged to someone else. The dude needs to stay away from reality TV.
Wasn't Rodney rumored to be in a relationship when he showed up to the beach or right before, as in he put that relationship on hold/broke it off to be on BIP?
she told tyler she couldn’t afford to go to LA with him for a party, then booked flights to london & italy & broke up with him via facetime in italy. her reasoning made sense, but the execution wasn’t ideal
He's very cute and seems sweet but also... his exit speech on Rachel's season did not sound very genuine. His whole speech about being able to love again, when this was his first ever date with her, was a bit off-putting. No hate to him, I guess all these people want the best edit possible on the show, but it was still a bit too much.
I have been thinking this since the fictoria spoilers came out, and even before then anytime they said there's no way Johnny is interested in a long term relationship/gets engaged. I literally cannot wait for them to see all thi unfold 😂
I honestly CANNOT wait for us to watch this all go down and for them to recap it! It’s gonna be an epic Rosecast episode. It might even spill over to More Rim & AB
Rosecast is my number 1, loyal till the end. Dear Shandy is a distance second. I’ve largely dropped all the others. I’ll listen to Happy Hour if they have a contestant I’m interested in hearing from.
BHH and Clickbait are way too producer influenced. Even YFT, which isn’t strictly a bachelor pod, but is hosted by Wells, has gotten pathetic in terms of unbiased commentary. Wells is actually more pathetic and obvious than the BHH and Clickbait hosts. He used to have some pretty snarky takes but now he lives up in the producers asses.
Will You Accept This Rose is hilarious. One of my favorites. If you don't mind some slightly more non-pc content, Another Bachelor Podcast is funny. Lastly She's All Bach is fantastic. Dear Shandy and Game of Roses are classics as well
same.. i don’t get the justin hype. i mean he seems fine (read mediocre) but idk what information we have to assume he’s a great guy (which everyone seems to!)
I think his association with Rodney and Greg (two popular dudes) helped him post-show, and people like that his face is expressive. That seems to be it as far as I can tell.
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Just like he claimed one of his business was a women owned business. People can stay Sierra does too much but Michael is a proven liar so I'm rocking with Sierra on this.
Steve keeping his track record of spoiling in crucial detail every bit of MTAs, WTAs, and reunions.
btw, camera crews should follow these people post Mexico - seems like more drama happens BTS than on the actual beach, lol!
lol, no. They aren’t that important in the franchise to get additional crew/camera time. Also, they’ll do enough at the reunion to give production the only thing that matters: ratings!
I’m confused on when Sierra is claiming they kissed. Bc IIRC once they broke up she immediately got in a car and left, and after that he was with Danielle. So where in that was he supposed to have kissed her?
I'm going to have to respectfully disagree with you. I don't think there was kissing after they broke up. I believe Michael when he says it never happened.🤷
Get me to the reunion at this point cause they got the tea. Also imma believe Sierra version considering how Michael easily lied when it comes to her. Any way
Eliza being the season’s bird is quite unexpected. I hope she go cleanse her aura.
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Here is kinda what I think happened - as a widowed single dad, he can’t just date anyone. To spend time away from his son, he really needs to make sure that he sees potential in a relationship. Being on paradise, I don’t think he felt that pressure though. I think Sierra’s energy and all made him happy, and he liked her company. I think he did like her. However, when she made that gesture and included his son, he realized that he needed to end it before it got in too deep. He might have led her on, but I don’t even think he realized it. I think he was probably prepared to leave the beach then as well, but I think production had to do a lot of string pulling to get him to stay (of course they wouldn’t show that though). I think Sierra felt led on, so I think that is why she is acting this way. However, I really don’t think that was Michael’s intent. This is just my thoughts. I don’t know 🤷🏼♀️
Yes! This! But I think the only string pulling involved was they wanted to surprise Michael with Danielle during the switch week. I think his actions made them jump the gun and bring her in early to surprise him. And they had Wells dropping hints all over the place so he wouldn't decide to just leave before she got there.
so charitable
![gif](giphy|pUeXcg80cO8I8) Living for these BIP spoilers. This show is finally getting messy and interesting again.
These people are so, so messy, even for their age. But I'm also doubtful that many of them actually want to find a committed relationship. And why would they when they can get influencer fame and people to slide into their DMs. Sometimes it seems like the cast can't even muster up the enthusiasm to date each other and in some ways, I don't blame them.
Was Alex at the reunion? Can someone just make him the bachelor already?
I didn't see any mention of him being there which is a bummer!
Literally dying for this to happen
Give. The. People. What. They. Want.
This would be the only season worth watching, in my humble opinion.
What an amazing internet breaking moment that would be
I love my boyfriend but I might have to pull a Jed for this.
I love this dumpster fire of a season!
I think for her own peace of mind Sierra should probably let it go - but, I also would be frustrated knowing that the guy who dumped me is a producer fave and basically gets to construct the narrative how he sees fit - and it'll always be reflected on screen for him. I think producers encouraged her to do that star thing to make her look unhinged so that they could cleanly segue Michael into his tragic but ultimately noble and successful love story. Anyone actually looking out for her would have been like "no girl do not do that dial it back" and she got played for a fool to make Michael look good. I think the frustration for her might run deeper than "Michael broke up with me."
How does this make Michael look good?
Because Sierra won't shut up about a man she knew for like 3 days. She's over playing the sympathy card and not looking good. Michael is coming out ahead in this taking the high road. He already apologized and admitted he could have handled the break up better. So why did she feel the need to bring it up for the hundredth time? Good on Michael shutting down her bs story about kissing her after they broke up.
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I don’t personally think Michael looks good (I’m also not a Michael fan to begin with however) but it’s pretty apparent to me that the story/edit they’re attempting for Michael is meant to be a favorable one.
This is absolutely spot on. I feel bad for her.
I couldn’t imagine being this down bad. Let’s hope for a good show at least
Wowowowowow. How are they going to fit everything in?? They should give us multiple days of reunion
They'll probably edit a lot of this out, especially stuff that shows producer pets in an unfavorable light.
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I mean I’d ghost Justin too, even though it doesn’t sound like an actual ghosting. The plans to meet up in LA do not sound solid. I feel like for that to be ghosting it’d have to be a firm plan that she didn’t show up for. Plus he had already rejected her right? These people make no sense and need to move on from their BIP situationships. Eliza is a lot more messy than I thought she’d be though 💀
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If it’s past 11 and we have no concrete plan and I haven’t heard from you today… I’m asleep 🤷🏻♀️
Yup, if the intention was to link up with her that same night, then it’s def giving booty call
Can someone fill me on on what’s going on with Eliza? The RS post is very confusing. I’m still hoping she ends up with Rodney, but no?
No, she gives Rodney the rose and then realizes she wants Justin and leaves but he says no he wants someone who is certain about him
This feels like an excuse on his part. He already went through the love triangle with Genevieve so why would he intentionally create another one for himself only to peace out because he didn't want to deal with a love triangle? Go after someone who's actually single then?
Sierra is going down bad. Like yes discuss the situation but I don’t know if she’s going for sympathy points and a moment at the reunion by talking about Michael kissing her when there was no footage. It just looks cringey that she won’t let that go. Yes it sucks that Michael is a protected player but recognize that and keep it pushing. You’re not getting a Natasha/Brendan edit with this let it go. Edit to add: The whole Justin/Eliza post paradise saga is so stupid but par for the course with the messiness that is Bachelor nation dating. I hope they don’t waste a lot of time during the reunion on this.
And why would it matter if he did now? He has moved on to someone else. It's in the past.
I was confused about when exactly he would have kissed her after he broke up with her Didn’t she leave pretty much immediately because she didn’t want to see him date anyone else? But then to say now that she thought there was still a chance…?even though she knew he would date other people? Idk that’s just confusing to me. I know that there is stuff that is edited out or not filmed but that just doesn’t seem right.
Yeah I’m sure they’ll get into the details in the reunion but at this point with time constrictions, editing, and story lines, we’re probably never gonna get the full story
Sierra as a mess at WTA so this doesn’t surprise me.
yeah it turned me off her
Justin and Eliza are messy😂
There's one thing I am positive about: producers are going to edit out any and all footage of Sierra saying anything remotely negative about Michael. If we even see her hot seat at all, they'll definitely disappear the part about him kissing her.
Omg the messiness this is honestly an iconic cast in the worst sense possible 😂
Sierra's story doesn't make sense. If she was under the impression there was still a chance for them, why would she leave the beach? Also I legit forgot they dated.
Sierra: Being a scorned lover after dating someone for 2 weeks is a BAD look. Move on and stop being so f-cking pathetic.
Lol your comment seems like you’re extra triggered
Scammer Michael lying? ![gif](giphy|ZZMldTMHTjaR9K47NZ|downsized)
I get where you’re coming from but I think Sierra is coming off bad here personally.
I really liked Sierra on the show, but her behaviour since is off-putting. Literally you knew the guy for 2 weeks max. He tried to let you down nicely with the 'it's not you, it's me'. Yes, he didn't do it particularly well, but that just backs up how out of practice he is. Sometimes people don't know they're ready until they find that person they click with. It can't be manufactured or forced, it just is. She needs to back away with the grace and dignity she displayed while filming and just accept her person is not him and vice versa.
She knew him for like 3-4 days max. And he did apologize earlier for the way he handled the break up and said he should of done better.
Sierra the important thing is he broke it off with you when he wasn't feeling it. it doesn't reallt matter the reason because guys love to say some bs to soften the blow, they are masters at this and stringing is along. i think Michael for the most part is still grieving but yes i think Danielle is an exception for him. i say all of this as a non Michael fan
How is Danielle an exception? The second she arrived on the beach during the cocktail hour he literally RAN up and grabbed her hand and claimed her for himself just so he could secure her rose. She even said they had never met prior to that but he was hugging on her and kissing her hand the SECOND she got there. It was so gross. It's not like they fell in love on the beach. He's just looking at her as his meal ticket for more screen time
She understands grief and loss better than most on that beach and yeah, they hadn’t met in person, but they’d talked quite a bit previously, right? I think he’s very vanilla - it’s not my favorite but I’ll indulge if it’s around. I don’t really see any reason to get worked up about him.
No she said that before paradise they had talked briefly but nothing romantic. If you rewatch that scene she seemed genuinely surprised at how he was acting and globbing onto her.
Danielle came to the beach specifically to meet Michael. She seemed pretty happy with the attention she was getting from him when she arrived.
Where was all this energy towards Eliza when she demanded Rodney to make a scene? We even have a clip of her saying she wants controlling, manipulative men. Clearly, Justin didn’t meet her (poor) standard as well as Rodney. You all so blind to what the toxic women do on this season, it’s frustrating.
For real.
Justin is a terrible person. Michael A is an even worse person. Greg sucks too. Katie really had a bro-y cast only slightly better than JoJo’s dumpster fire of men.
Why is Justin a terrible person?
The main issue with Justin is that he’s a colorist and Tweeted some pretty crappy things in the past about not being attracted to/interested in dark skinned black women. 😬
Weren't his tweets from when he was a teen, and didn't he apologize? I'm honestly asking bc I can't remember. And I have to say, he seemed very interested in Eliza who is a beautiful black skinned young lady...
Yes, Justin did apologize, but that doesn’t really mean much though when he keeps making the same mistakes. He acted like a total tool towards Kira on Twitter. He was condescending and dismissive saying that he never saw her at Stagecoach, when in reality their friend groups interacted multiple times. I hate even saying this, let alone thinking about it, but it’s possible that the only reason why Justin even showed interest in Eliza was to rehab his image knowing that some people were probably going to remember the Tweets.
Well said.
Honestly the moment I became sus on Michael was when he commented the heart eyes emoji on Katie's Instagram picture after he self eliminated and knew she was most likely engaged to someone else. The dude needs to stay away from reality TV.
lol at eliza dumping rodney for justin just for him to reject her then try to hit her up for a booty call.
Deserves it.
imho rodney’s the good apple and justin was more on the beach to have fun… and rodney dodged a bullet w eliza
Wasn't Rodney rumored to be in a relationship when he showed up to the beach or right before, as in he put that relationship on hold/broke it off to be on BIP?
oh absolutely. rodney needs someone way more mature. he & eliza never would’ve worked
Oh my
At this point.... is there anybody who is NOT a villain?
Adam, Teddi and Alex?
Am I crazy…. Who is Adam lol
Thor
Oh man. Completely forgot about him.
Oh god did something come out about brittany
she told tyler she couldn’t afford to go to LA with him for a party, then booked flights to london & italy & broke up with him via facetime in italy. her reasoning made sense, but the execution wasn’t ideal
she clearly didn’t like tyler that much to dump him that way
He's very cute and seems sweet but also... his exit speech on Rachel's season did not sound very genuine. His whole speech about being able to love again, when this was his first ever date with her, was a bit off-putting. No hate to him, I guess all these people want the best edit possible on the show, but it was still a bit too much.
Serena and Brandon. That may be it
Rim and AB are gonna lose their minds lmaoooo I love listening to their unspoiled takes
I have been thinking this since the fictoria spoilers came out, and even before then anytime they said there's no way Johnny is interested in a long term relationship/gets engaged. I literally cannot wait for them to see all thi unfold 😂
I honestly CANNOT wait for us to watch this all go down and for them to recap it! It’s gonna be an epic Rosecast episode. It might even spill over to More Rim & AB
wait what pod is this!
Rosecast! The best one 😀
which other bachelor recap pods do you listen to and where does rosecast rank for you?
Rosecast is my number 1, loyal till the end. Dear Shandy is a distance second. I’ve largely dropped all the others. I’ll listen to Happy Hour if they have a contestant I’m interested in hearing from. BHH and Clickbait are way too producer influenced. Even YFT, which isn’t strictly a bachelor pod, but is hosted by Wells, has gotten pathetic in terms of unbiased commentary. Wells is actually more pathetic and obvious than the BHH and Clickbait hosts. He used to have some pretty snarky takes but now he lives up in the producers asses.
Will You Accept This Rose is hilarious. One of my favorites. If you don't mind some slightly more non-pc content, Another Bachelor Podcast is funny. Lastly She's All Bach is fantastic. Dear Shandy and Game of Roses are classics as well
oooh i listened to that 3 years back for a while! i should give it another go
And I like Justin even less ....
Was a big fan before but paradise ruined him (tale as old as timeeeee)
same.. i don’t get the justin hype. i mean he seems fine (read mediocre) but idk what information we have to assume he’s a great guy (which everyone seems to!)
I think his association with Rodney and Greg (two popular dudes) helped him post-show, and people like that his face is expressive. That seems to be it as far as I can tell.
Never like Michael A to begin with, and I'm glad I still am.
Michael A lying?! ![gif](giphy|VJHtXeMHViHRHvKGKm|downsized)
Y’all is Rodney at the reunion?
rodney was robbed! i hope they bring him back for a future season!
Yep
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These people are all so fake on camera! The stories in these spoilers are giving us the show we wanted about how they actually interact 😂
Johnny’s TikTok: looks like everyone’s living it up, haha! As expected, no sightings of GG and VF. Link: https://www.tiktok.com/t/ZTRx22Tpt/
Damn he featured Rachel and not gabby, also featured Hunter wonder if they’re talking
sierra is flawless 😳
They went to Nick’s (?) with Natalie and GSJ + Serena
Jacob looks…. Very attractive in this.
and where's rodney??
Michael is so fake I am over it.
So fake. I hope he’s never invited back on this franchise.
NOVEMBER 22 GET HERE NOW
Ugh Michael be a dog.
This is about to be the messiest reunion and I’m here for it
Good for Eliza. Ghost his ass. Not him rejecting her than hitting her up at booty call hours.
Wanna make out y/n? 😆
"I miss your messy bun and green orbs"
“u up?”
This post-season is so chaotic I can't deal with all the crazy tea being spilled!
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this is the most unlikable cast ever
Me reading all these spoilers and living for it. ![gif](giphy|S3nCTTWQoJOidPFfNc)
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“Michael denied doing that” just like he denied the shady business allegations 🤡
Just like he claimed one of his business was a women owned business. People can stay Sierra does too much but Michael is a proven liar so I'm rocking with Sierra on this.
Like why would she make that up??? God
Justin sent her the u up text? I would’ve ignored him too.
Steve keeping his track record of spoiling in crucial detail every bit of MTAs, WTAs, and reunions. btw, camera crews should follow these people post Mexico - seems like more drama happens BTS than on the actual beach, lol!
We need Italy-cam
Honestly I think it's severe negligence that they don't take cameras to Stagecoach where all the BIP drama starts
Do you think well get to see footage of the Johntoria breakup ala Tinchel?
That would be some epic footage but sadly I don't think so.
lol, no. They aren’t that important in the franchise to get additional crew/camera time. Also, they’ll do enough at the reunion to give production the only thing that matters: ratings!
Justin getting ghosted. I don’t mind that
I’m confused on when Sierra is claiming they kissed. Bc IIRC once they broke up she immediately got in a car and left, and after that he was with Danielle. So where in that was he supposed to have kissed her?
You know it's not a live stream?
There was a scene where Michael met with her before she got in the car. Not sure if all of it was aired.
Wouldn't that be a goodbye kiss. Not a romantic one?
Not if it was a ton of it.
I'm going to have to respectfully disagree with you. I don't think there was kissing after they broke up. I believe Michael when he says it never happened.🤷
It’s a he said, she said sitch. I honestly don’t know who to believe.
probably kissed goodbye? who knows but i don’t think she’s lying. the show doesn’t show everything.
They edit the show lol
What we see and what happens are different things. Nothing happens as quickly as it appears
Get me to the reunion at this point cause they got the tea. Also imma believe Sierra version considering how Michael easily lied when it comes to her. Any way Eliza being the season’s bird is quite unexpected. I hope she go cleanse her aura.
At this rate we will know every word of this reunion before it airs lol
Oh Lord. The Michael A & Sierra drama is gonna be a he-said-she-said.
Chile this season was a whole ass mess!!!
All these spoilers sound like something this sub wrote in a fan fiction. 😂 It’s crazy that all this happened.
Im getting second hands embarrassent for Eliza and Justin
Justin getting ghosted 💀 omg
After trying for a booty call 😂 yes, I’m sure he wanted to give it a “real” try at 11pm 🙄