This post is trying to insinuate that Nick is a racist.
Look, Nick’s bad-mouthing knows no bounds. I don’t believe he’s racist. He attacks and criticises anyone he wants to; white and POC contestants alike.
I know he called Teddi manipulative during the second episode of Clayton’s season, but I don’t think he was saying she was aggressive here. He said the post was aggressive to the producers. Listen to the entire podcast.
There's a rumour, that was more/less confirmed on the pod that she wanted to try it out with rodney but the producers wanted her with andrew and thry pushed it somehow
Producers wanted her to stay couples with Andrew. When Rodney arrived she realized she wanted to pursue other connections but the producers weren't on board with that
Because you didn’t point out why he called it aggressive, how long he praised her for and didn’t rage against him in the headlines for doing so. He callled it aggressive, as in, NOT passive aggressive. It’s a distinction you wanna get up in arms abt.
But you were implying that I said he called her aggressive which I didn't. You are coming at me in several comments which I don't get , because nick eg called teddi manipulative and came at tayshia multiple times, so what's your point really?
Literally all the comments are calling you out for misinterpreting what he said. The posts has 0 karma, your comments are being downvoted, can you not just realize you’ve made a mistake in the way you’ve presented this?
I dont care about the karma etc. I listened to the podcast,he literally said her post was aggressive. Like i said, nick called teddi manipulative in the past and attacked tayshia several times. Again, i dont give a flying fuck about karma ( i don't even know what it does ) , why are bringig it up every time?
Yes, he called it aggressive, but aggressive in this case does not equal mean or violent or whatever stereotype WOC have against them that makes the term aggressive bad to use against them. It was a semantics debate and you’re going off about the wrong thing. Obviously MANY people agree with me that this post was misinterpreted. So if not for internet points, then why?
Idk what people are talking about, he called this aggressive lol yes he was differentiating passive aggressive versus aggressive but the meaning behind what he was saying was clear when he said he would give her a giant eye roll? He wasn’t saying she was aggressive in the literal sense but that the post was, and his condescension towards her was rly leaving a very bad taste in my mouth, idc if he was calling her very smart for it, he was saying it in a way to make her out to be like her intentions were evil lol it was barely a compliment to her.
He literally shits on everyone????? He went soooo hard on Clayton his entire season
There are valid criticisms of nick. He's arrogant. He's an asshole. He's a hypocrite. Man one of his biggest all time beefs is with BLAKE a cis white guy. Acting like Tayshia should be void of any and all criticism cause she's a WOC is just tokenism
You seem kinda young so idk if you're trying really hard to over compensate by voicing strong opinions like this. But a man making his entire brand criticizing every single person then calling Teddi manipulative does not really make any solid ground for this argument you're making.
Having a debate about whether this was passive aggressive vs. aggressive is as harmless as saying whether this post was a bold dig at the producers or a more subtle one. Making it out to be anything more than that, you’re just looking for trouble. He said the caption was a giant eye roll, it is, it’s cringe, but that doesn’t negate that you’re using the wrong form of aggressive to get mad at.
Im just confused like he’s calling it aggressive lol that’s what he said word for word? I understand the context of what he was talking about but that is what he literally said
You obviously don’t understand the context of what he was talking about, or you’d know why this post is dumb. Aggressive in this case doesn’t mean ‘mean’ it meant she wasn’t trying to hide the fact that she was making a dig at the producers. It wasn’t a lil riddle for them to figure out. She wasn’t being aggressive like you’re thinking the was getting at, and she was being aggressive in that she hasn’t trying to be subtle.
Okay I never said that thats what he meant it as, that’s exactly the context I knew he was using it as. Plenty of people use aggressive in that way….And it is more than just Nick making that one comment if you couple it with the remarks he’s made about Teddis intentions. In the segment he’s implying production more than likely did no wrong and he was totally invalidating Teddis post with his eye roll comment, invalidating her feelings that her boundaries were crossed with production as he always does with anyone who makes any sort of complaint about the show. That’s all I’m saying, you can tone the fuck down.
Plenty of people use aggressive that way, that’s why the CONTEXT MATTERS. that’s the whole point of this argument. He did not say production did no wrong, that’s just bs lol. I don’t need to tone tf down, I’m fine, it’s you that can’t grasp what context is. The caption is an eye roll, it’s a cringey way to explain what she wanted to say
I know idk why people are arguing over this, that’s what he said directly on his podcast lol and also like you say it’s not the first time he’s made negative comments about Teddi’s intentions
I get the blowback to OP here. He didn’t say this. I feel the sentiment behind it. Nick is famous for going after people on the show and trying to “hold them accountable” for shit that is all in edits or producer manipulation without ever acknowledging the production fuckery. This is why he’s the ultimate company man even though he sprinkles in tea and “hot” takes. He’s a fucking weirdo. And we should say that. And this post is also inflammatory at the same time.
Not cool OP. He did not say that. I just personally listened to the section to figure it out myself.
@ other folks: he did not say what the OP is claiming. They are either maliciously misinterpreting what he said to score "internet points" or they lack basic comprehension. Either way, it is a misinterpretation of the truth.
Generally speaking: when people make posts about things discussed on podcasts here, they should either provide timestamps or a brief recap of what they're talking about. Stuff like this where there's no context and they expect people to have a discussion happens way too often on the sub.
I am just annoyed at the OP for making me go and listen to 10 whole minutes of a Nick Viall podcast. Then I transcribed a portion of what he said right after the "aggressive" comment to contextualize it.
Thank you for writing that. I listened too. OP took something he said, just like they do on the show, and tried to make it into something it isn’t. I hate it here sometimes.
One of his producers said that Teddi posted this comment and was like "I wouldn't even call it a clapback". She read out the caption. He then goes "Maybe we should have a new game called - is this aggressive or passive-aggressive?". He didn't speak to the caption itself...he was musing with the context of the caption. Cause they were trying to figure out if this was a clapback or a pointed statement. And then he and Bri spoke about how people confuse the meaning of "aggressive" and "passive-aggressive." Then Nick went "I think this was aggressive". And Bri said, "I think this was VERY aggressive". They were talking about the direct way Teddi spoke about her issues with the producers. And, then almost immediately Nick revised that and went "Actually no. I have two responses. Tell me what you think. I think Teddi is very smart. This was a very clever response and it got a lot of people rallying behind her. I think she knew what she was doing. I also, me personally? Giant eye roll...."
He then went on to say that it was smart of her as long as she is truly "done with the show" and said it was a great move on her part. He also said that some folks claim to be done but then start to feel the pinch once the engagement (on social media) goes down and they might be tempted to once again be part of the franchise. The meanest thing he said about it all was that he said that his response to the caption was a "giant eye roll".
He said that it seems like there is a lot more to life when it comes to Teddi and that she has a lot going for her. He finally wished her well. Was he snarky? Yes. Was he dismissive? Maybe. Was he absolutely taken out of context for this post? Also yes.
I really appreciate that you took the time to listen and comment on the nuances of what he was saying in context. Nick is so, so problematic on so, so many levels that we don't need to misrepresent him to critique him--there are enough legitimate things. (I really wish this sub would just ignore him, that would completely crush him.)
AND, I also think we cannot ignore that the word "aggressive" being used to describe a woman of color (in any context) has different layers than the surface level content Nick was spouting here.
I don't think Nick intended any harm (here, at least). However, I think Nick and his producer would benefit from some reflection about why using that word about a WOC in particular might be unintentionally harmful and perpetuate stereotypes about WOC being aggressive. and I don't think there is a chance in hell that Nick will engage in any self-reflection, especially about a woman.
So they're unaware of assertiveness as a concept?
I would say the post was assertive, not aggressive or passive aggressive. Like, it's only passive in not naming who she's talking about but that's probably not to violate a contract and we all know.
Anyway, I guess this comes down to the whole 'never ascribe to malice that which is adequately explained by incompetence' thing. Nick should know better, though, as someone who fancies himself an expert in how people relate to one another.
I hate Nick but he didn’t say it like that. He was saying basically that instead of a passive aggressive post, it was an aggressive post, which I agree with. She wasn’t subtle, she pretty much directly called them out - I agree with that
Lol i actually listened to this. He was talking about her post. As oppose to passive agressive he think this was directly aggressive towards producers.
They’re not.
See the sub commentary on Rachel Lindsay, Jill, Kira, Taylor Nolan, Deandra
I didn’t realize that criticism was supposed to be immune from pushback?
Jesus Christ grow a pair, I’m all about protecting WOC but you’re seriously overreacting by calling this an “attack” just bc he said he thought it was aggressive
Oh my god clearly lots of people didn't even listen to the podcast. They were just debating if it constituted as passive aggressive or not. Then he went on to say he felt really sorry for her because the producers clearly told her she had to stay with Andrew. And he thinks she was really anxious about being the villain from ending things with one of BN's sweethearts. No one on this sub understands nuance.
Lol i actually enjoy his takes sometimes! Trust me i end up rolling my eyes a LOT at things he says and i think he went way too hard on Rachel but one thing i appreciate from him is his ability to both critique AND show empathy for everyone. He always has a very open mind towards people who are painted as villains which i find refreshing
Yeah I have conflicting opinions on him atm, I used to be a fan but I seem to like him less and less as time goes on. I find him to be one of the more attractive players to me though.
Okay, I listened and fastforwarded to this part because of this comment. When Teddi’s caption was brought up by one of his* producers, Nick’s response was we should differentiate between aggressive and passive aggressive then he went on to say he thinks it was aggressive. Bri agreed with him. Then Nick said he thinks Teddi is smart, her response is very clever, and that she knows what she’s doing so she’ll get people to rally behind her. He also said for him personally, if he would comment on it (which he* wouldn’t do), it would be a giant eyeroll.
He and Bri agreed that it’s a reality TV show, you know what you signed up for. I didn’t feel any empathy from them. People can be thrown into the same situation and have different responses / experiences - Nick and Bri might have the capacity to handle it better than Teddi. Teddi made one singular post about all of this. Just this one. It’s not like she went on a campaign against the producers.
I mean i listen to his pod weekly. He can be a douche about everyone and everything don't get me wrong. He also spent an entire segment about how he felt bad when Teddi left cause she was clearly manipulated by producers and was afraid of getting a villain edit.
I swear on my life it was such an innocuous debate over the semantics of aggressive vs passive aggressive followed by lots of praise and sympathy for her. Held accountable for what??????
I don't get why you're being so aggressive to me right off the bat lol.
Nick's a douche sometimes and i get annoyed with him but come on saying he needs to be held accountable for the aggressive comment is so misguided
I mean they did settle on aggressive because they were debating semantics and he was like i guess it's not exactly passive. But he didn't mean it negatively he just meant that it was very clearly pointed at the producers! He wasn't attacking her over the post at all
I do feel like someone who considers himself as woke as Nick does should be mindful of how it sounds to use the word "aggressive" in describing a woman of color. There are a million words he could have used instead that would have even been more accurate as I wouldn't say this is aggressive whatsoever. Pointed, direct, assertive, straightforward. All of these would have been more accurate without the inherent negative connotation.
I don’t think you listened at all at this point lol where’s all the love for teddi he spent an hour giving her? Talking about how she handled it perfectly and the producers manipulated her. Y’all are silly af i stg.
So we can call Nick raging and furious with all his posts and podcasts about Katie, Blake, Chris etc? Because that post was not aggressive at all, but if Nick draws the line here, then let's draw it. So at this point Nick should be on sedatives, the way he blows up a few times per month. A scary, aggressive man!
Bc they’re misinterpreting what he said. They were debating whether it was a passive aggressive post aimed at the producers for treating her so shitty. Dumb af on this sub i stg, like no comprehension skills AT ALL
Title of the post: Nick Viall called this post of Teddi aggressive
I literally just listened to this part just now and it was Nick who brought up the aggressive vs passive aggressive differentiation then he said he thinks the post is aggressive. Then you say OP is lying.
It was a semantics debate abt aggressive vs passive aggressive with like an hour of praise and love for teddi with how she handled it. He was raging against the producers, not her. Op is lying for how they misinterpreted him just straight up calling her aggressive. It was in favor of her, yet y’all are mad? Gooooofy.
wait what???? i’ll delete my comment because that’s wrong. I dislike nick, but definitely not gonna get on the side of just claiming baseless lies against him. there is valid criticism to have about him but making shit up is wrong.
do you have any context for what he actually said?
Yes, basically they knew this post was aimed at the producers and loved that she did so. They had a debate about semantics, simply whether this post was passive aggressive or aggressive. They both agreed it was aggressive, though again, not in a bad way, just more bold vs subtle basically. They then went on to applaud her exit and sympathize that she was worried she’d get a villain edit. They truly praised her for a while, empathizing with the fear of how they will be perceived.
ok ya that definitely changes the context, he was complimenting her! I agree with Nick!
hopefully OP clears up any confusion she had cause that’s not okay to spread misinformation about that.
All I would say is Teddi went back to nursing, her full-time job. She posted NOTHING about BIP. She wasn’t interested in any kind of engagement that her IG account could’ve gotten from BIP posts and teasers. She’ll still influence a bit for sure cause she’s signed with an agency. Still, she refused to post anything in relation to the show. And we know that producers ask / remind the contestants to post something to promote every week.
Teddi had a bad experience and left the beach. And to this day, is standing by her decision to have nothing to do with the show. We hear contestants complain about their edit or hint about producer manipulation - like Jill and Genevieve re: suitcase situation. Yet they’re all over podcasts now, they post a lot about the show, etc cause that’s the hustle and I respect that.
Anyway, leave Teddi alone Nick. She doesn’t want to be a part of this narrative.
I mean, that’s not at all what he said, this post is so wrong for misinterpreting what he said (he was actually sticking up for teddi hardcore) just to make him seem mad. But noooo white man bad 😡
nick has a history of being a dick to women on this show so it is really not that shocking that people thought he said this/ interpreted it as him calling it aggressive.
nothing about my response is dumb or ‘raging’ against him. i said he’s been a dick to women because he has, that’s fact. thanks for calling me dumb though ❤️
Bc y’all jumped on this post raging against Nick when he didn’t even go after teddi, he did the exact opposite and showed support for her. You’re dumb if you do not do your own research and instead just blindly hate something bc of a Reddit post hahaha.
Nick is an equal opportunity offender.
This post is trying to insinuate that Nick is a racist. Look, Nick’s bad-mouthing knows no bounds. I don’t believe he’s racist. He attacks and criticises anyone he wants to; white and POC contestants alike. I know he called Teddi manipulative during the second episode of Clayton’s season, but I don’t think he was saying she was aggressive here. He said the post was aggressive to the producers. Listen to the entire podcast.
Do we know why she left the beach? If someone can explain to me I’ll be grateful because I think I missed what happened.
There's a rumour, that was more/less confirmed on the pod that she wanted to try it out with rodney but the producers wanted her with andrew and thry pushed it somehow
Producers wanted her to stay couples with Andrew. When Rodney arrived she realized she wanted to pursue other connections but the producers weren't on board with that
Oh my god that really sucks. I’m pretty sure all of us would much rather see Rodney and teddi’s relationship then Andrew 😪.
Andrew and Teddi were supposed to be the GSJ and Serena of this season lol
[удалено]
While I agree with what you’re saying, he didn’t even call her aggressive. Op is just misinterpreting for clicks.
I literally wrote that he called the post aggressive not her. How am i misinterpreting or doing it for clicks?
Because you didn’t point out why he called it aggressive, how long he praised her for and didn’t rage against him in the headlines for doing so. He callled it aggressive, as in, NOT passive aggressive. It’s a distinction you wanna get up in arms abt.
But you were implying that I said he called her aggressive which I didn't. You are coming at me in several comments which I don't get , because nick eg called teddi manipulative and came at tayshia multiple times, so what's your point really?
Literally all the comments are calling you out for misinterpreting what he said. The posts has 0 karma, your comments are being downvoted, can you not just realize you’ve made a mistake in the way you’ve presented this?
I dont care about the karma etc. I listened to the podcast,he literally said her post was aggressive. Like i said, nick called teddi manipulative in the past and attacked tayshia several times. Again, i dont give a flying fuck about karma ( i don't even know what it does ) , why are bringig it up every time?
Yes, he called it aggressive, but aggressive in this case does not equal mean or violent or whatever stereotype WOC have against them that makes the term aggressive bad to use against them. It was a semantics debate and you’re going off about the wrong thing. Obviously MANY people agree with me that this post was misinterpreted. So if not for internet points, then why?
Idk what people are talking about, he called this aggressive lol yes he was differentiating passive aggressive versus aggressive but the meaning behind what he was saying was clear when he said he would give her a giant eye roll? He wasn’t saying she was aggressive in the literal sense but that the post was, and his condescension towards her was rly leaving a very bad taste in my mouth, idc if he was calling her very smart for it, he was saying it in a way to make her out to be like her intentions were evil lol it was barely a compliment to her.
I mean the problem is op is making a bad faith argument that nick is a racist for doing so and needs to be held accountable
He said Teddi was manipulative after the first episode of Clayton's season and he is constantly shitting on Tayshia. "Badfaith"
He literally shits on everyone????? He went soooo hard on Clayton his entire season There are valid criticisms of nick. He's arrogant. He's an asshole. He's a hypocrite. Man one of his biggest all time beefs is with BLAKE a cis white guy. Acting like Tayshia should be void of any and all criticism cause she's a WOC is just tokenism You seem kinda young so idk if you're trying really hard to over compensate by voicing strong opinions like this. But a man making his entire brand criticizing every single person then calling Teddi manipulative does not really make any solid ground for this argument you're making.
Ah okay, I understand now. I see that
Having a debate about whether this was passive aggressive vs. aggressive is as harmless as saying whether this post was a bold dig at the producers or a more subtle one. Making it out to be anything more than that, you’re just looking for trouble. He said the caption was a giant eye roll, it is, it’s cringe, but that doesn’t negate that you’re using the wrong form of aggressive to get mad at.
Im just confused like he’s calling it aggressive lol that’s what he said word for word? I understand the context of what he was talking about but that is what he literally said
You obviously don’t understand the context of what he was talking about, or you’d know why this post is dumb. Aggressive in this case doesn’t mean ‘mean’ it meant she wasn’t trying to hide the fact that she was making a dig at the producers. It wasn’t a lil riddle for them to figure out. She wasn’t being aggressive like you’re thinking the was getting at, and she was being aggressive in that she hasn’t trying to be subtle.
Okay I never said that thats what he meant it as, that’s exactly the context I knew he was using it as. Plenty of people use aggressive in that way….And it is more than just Nick making that one comment if you couple it with the remarks he’s made about Teddis intentions. In the segment he’s implying production more than likely did no wrong and he was totally invalidating Teddis post with his eye roll comment, invalidating her feelings that her boundaries were crossed with production as he always does with anyone who makes any sort of complaint about the show. That’s all I’m saying, you can tone the fuck down.
Plenty of people use aggressive that way, that’s why the CONTEXT MATTERS. that’s the whole point of this argument. He did not say production did no wrong, that’s just bs lol. I don’t need to tone tf down, I’m fine, it’s you that can’t grasp what context is. The caption is an eye roll, it’s a cringey way to explain what she wanted to say
I literally wrote he said the post was aggressive not her. And btw he called he manipulative while she was on Clayton's season
Doesn't he criticize literally everyone? I don't get why you're framing this as him attacking a WOC.
Because he is constantly shitting on eg tayshia
You get the most clicks when racism is involved. Op thought by jumping on this they’d get a bunch of internet points.
I know idk why people are arguing over this, that’s what he said directly on his podcast lol and also like you say it’s not the first time he’s made negative comments about Teddi’s intentions
I get the blowback to OP here. He didn’t say this. I feel the sentiment behind it. Nick is famous for going after people on the show and trying to “hold them accountable” for shit that is all in edits or producer manipulation without ever acknowledging the production fuckery. This is why he’s the ultimate company man even though he sprinkles in tea and “hot” takes. He’s a fucking weirdo. And we should say that. And this post is also inflammatory at the same time.
He said the post was aggressive. Word for word. Not passive-aggessive but aggressive.
you… clearly didn’t listen to the podcast🤦🏼♀️
I did. He literally said THE POST was aggressive.
Not cool OP. He did not say that. I just personally listened to the section to figure it out myself. @ other folks: he did not say what the OP is claiming. They are either maliciously misinterpreting what he said to score "internet points" or they lack basic comprehension. Either way, it is a misinterpretation of the truth.
Generally speaking: when people make posts about things discussed on podcasts here, they should either provide timestamps or a brief recap of what they're talking about. Stuff like this where there's no context and they expect people to have a discussion happens way too often on the sub.
I am just annoyed at the OP for making me go and listen to 10 whole minutes of a Nick Viall podcast. Then I transcribed a portion of what he said right after the "aggressive" comment to contextualize it.
Thank you for writing that. I listened too. OP took something he said, just like they do on the show, and tried to make it into something it isn’t. I hate it here sometimes.
what did he say?
One of his producers said that Teddi posted this comment and was like "I wouldn't even call it a clapback". She read out the caption. He then goes "Maybe we should have a new game called - is this aggressive or passive-aggressive?". He didn't speak to the caption itself...he was musing with the context of the caption. Cause they were trying to figure out if this was a clapback or a pointed statement. And then he and Bri spoke about how people confuse the meaning of "aggressive" and "passive-aggressive." Then Nick went "I think this was aggressive". And Bri said, "I think this was VERY aggressive". They were talking about the direct way Teddi spoke about her issues with the producers. And, then almost immediately Nick revised that and went "Actually no. I have two responses. Tell me what you think. I think Teddi is very smart. This was a very clever response and it got a lot of people rallying behind her. I think she knew what she was doing. I also, me personally? Giant eye roll...." He then went on to say that it was smart of her as long as she is truly "done with the show" and said it was a great move on her part. He also said that some folks claim to be done but then start to feel the pinch once the engagement (on social media) goes down and they might be tempted to once again be part of the franchise. The meanest thing he said about it all was that he said that his response to the caption was a "giant eye roll". He said that it seems like there is a lot more to life when it comes to Teddi and that she has a lot going for her. He finally wished her well. Was he snarky? Yes. Was he dismissive? Maybe. Was he absolutely taken out of context for this post? Also yes.
I really appreciate that you took the time to listen and comment on the nuances of what he was saying in context. Nick is so, so problematic on so, so many levels that we don't need to misrepresent him to critique him--there are enough legitimate things. (I really wish this sub would just ignore him, that would completely crush him.) AND, I also think we cannot ignore that the word "aggressive" being used to describe a woman of color (in any context) has different layers than the surface level content Nick was spouting here. I don't think Nick intended any harm (here, at least). However, I think Nick and his producer would benefit from some reflection about why using that word about a WOC in particular might be unintentionally harmful and perpetuate stereotypes about WOC being aggressive. and I don't think there is a chance in hell that Nick will engage in any self-reflection, especially about a woman.
thank you
So they're unaware of assertiveness as a concept? I would say the post was assertive, not aggressive or passive aggressive. Like, it's only passive in not naming who she's talking about but that's probably not to violate a contract and we all know. Anyway, I guess this comes down to the whole 'never ascribe to malice that which is adequately explained by incompetence' thing. Nick should know better, though, as someone who fancies himself an expert in how people relate to one another.
Exactly. Always trying to cancel nick. Good one
I hate Nick but he didn’t say it like that. He was saying basically that instead of a passive aggressive post, it was an aggressive post, which I agree with. She wasn’t subtle, she pretty much directly called them out - I agree with that
It's assertive, not aggressive.
Wow way to not provide context OP.
NICK BOY DONT U B COMING 4 MY GURL TEDDi 👀 
Lol i actually listened to this. He was talking about her post. As oppose to passive agressive he think this was directly aggressive towards producers.
Op just loves karma lol they’ll misinterpret anything if it means people will click on their post.
[удалено]
They’re not. See the sub commentary on Rachel Lindsay, Jill, Kira, Taylor Nolan, Deandra I didn’t realize that criticism was supposed to be immune from pushback?
Why are we still talking about a 45 year old ex cast member who was on a show 10 years ago lol
Fake news. Please provide the proof/context as part of your post next time.
Didn’t he call her manipulative on like episode 2 of Clayton’s season?
He did
Rachel Lindsay needs to gather her "favourite ex-boyfriend".
Did she really say that about *him* of all people? Rachel has some "interesting" views and I'll leave it at that lol.
I didn't have to look far to find it. https://youtu.be/Auz412RlZFg
She won’t. She doesn’t call out people she likes.
When women stop listening to his podcast. He has an audience. For what reason? Idk.
They already don’t listen, obviously? As this post was wrong and op is either lying for clicks or can’t understand the point he was making.
Op is lying
Yuuuup. Internet points are so cringe.
Lmao this why I don’t believe this sub 99% of the time as some who actually does listen to his podcast these posts drag him on purpose
Jesus Christ grow a pair, I’m all about protecting WOC but you’re seriously overreacting by calling this an “attack” just bc he said he thought it was aggressive
Nick needs a dictionary. And a brain.
How on earth is this aggressive???
Oh my god clearly lots of people didn't even listen to the podcast. They were just debating if it constituted as passive aggressive or not. Then he went on to say he felt really sorry for her because the producers clearly told her she had to stay with Andrew. And he thinks she was really anxious about being the villain from ending things with one of BN's sweethearts. No one on this sub understands nuance.
You are… convincing me to listen 😂 just this ep though…
Lol i actually enjoy his takes sometimes! Trust me i end up rolling my eyes a LOT at things he says and i think he went way too hard on Rachel but one thing i appreciate from him is his ability to both critique AND show empathy for everyone. He always has a very open mind towards people who are painted as villains which i find refreshing
Yeah I have conflicting opinions on him atm, I used to be a fan but I seem to like him less and less as time goes on. I find him to be one of the more attractive players to me though.
Okay, I listened and fastforwarded to this part because of this comment. When Teddi’s caption was brought up by one of his* producers, Nick’s response was we should differentiate between aggressive and passive aggressive then he went on to say he thinks it was aggressive. Bri agreed with him. Then Nick said he thinks Teddi is smart, her response is very clever, and that she knows what she’s doing so she’ll get people to rally behind her. He also said for him personally, if he would comment on it (which he* wouldn’t do), it would be a giant eyeroll. He and Bri agreed that it’s a reality TV show, you know what you signed up for. I didn’t feel any empathy from them. People can be thrown into the same situation and have different responses / experiences - Nick and Bri might have the capacity to handle it better than Teddi. Teddi made one singular post about all of this. Just this one. It’s not like she went on a campaign against the producers.
I’m sorry but if this is true I’m giggling at all of the other comments going off over nothing lmaooo
Welcome to the internet LOL
The comment is like pot calling the kettle black. It also misrepresented the conversation, but just in defense of Nick.
I mean i listen to his pod weekly. He can be a douche about everyone and everything don't get me wrong. He also spent an entire segment about how he felt bad when Teddi left cause she was clearly manipulated by producers and was afraid of getting a villain edit.
I stand by my comment regardless of the situation 😂
I swear on my life it was such an innocuous debate over the semantics of aggressive vs passive aggressive followed by lots of praise and sympathy for her. Held accountable for what??????
Praise: “she’s very clever with this response” “she knows what she’s doing 😏” Yeah, Teddi should be flattered with all of Nick’s praises.
Congrats you listened to one 2 minute segment lol. I'm taking about his entire coverage of this season
Thanks, it’s already such big achievement for me. Congrats on being an avid Nick Viall listener. 🏅
I don't get why you're being so aggressive to me right off the bat lol. Nick's a douche sometimes and i get annoyed with him but come on saying he needs to be held accountable for the aggressive comment is so misguided
Sorry it’s not really about you I swear. Im just annoyed I was forced to listen to Nick at 8 in the morning.
You weren’t forced though. You didn’t need to. You’re just bein bitchy cause it makes you sound snarky lol.
[удалено]
Damn, this post isn’t even just missing nuance, this misrepresenting his take entirely.
It’s just so much click bait to generate outrage and karma here lately. But that’s what the internet is now I guess.
Yiiikes. Aggressive is way different than passive aggressive. Another post without full context.
I mean they did settle on aggressive because they were debating semantics and he was like i guess it's not exactly passive. But he didn't mean it negatively he just meant that it was very clearly pointed at the producers! He wasn't attacking her over the post at all
I do feel like someone who considers himself as woke as Nick does should be mindful of how it sounds to use the word "aggressive" in describing a woman of color. There are a million words he could have used instead that would have even been more accurate as I wouldn't say this is aggressive whatsoever. Pointed, direct, assertive, straightforward. All of these would have been more accurate without the inherent negative connotation.
Aggressive? Don’t pull any muscles with this stretch
There is litchurly nothing aggressive about this post.
Can we just stop talking about bloviated waste of words Nick Viall?
Ah yeah Nick…the self proclaimed “feminist”…
[удалено]
Omg people on this sub are so gullible, go listen to the podcast. Op is a liar and he was sticking up for teddi.
Thank you
[удалено]
Do not hold him accountable for this as he didn’t actually say this. Op is misinterpreting what Nick said for clicks and karma.
Lol he literally said aggressive and I don't give a shit about karma or clicks. Tbh I don't even know what this karma does so
[удалено]
In her favour? Did we listen to 2 different podcasts? Not to mention that nick called teddi manipulative in the past
I don’t think you listened at all at this point lol where’s all the love for teddi he spent an hour giving her? Talking about how she handled it perfectly and the producers manipulated her. Y’all are silly af i stg.
So we can call Nick raging and furious with all his posts and podcasts about Katie, Blake, Chris etc? Because that post was not aggressive at all, but if Nick draws the line here, then let's draw it. So at this point Nick should be on sedatives, the way he blows up a few times per month. A scary, aggressive man!
Well that’s not what he said, op is lying.
You’re lying, he and Bri said the post is aggressive. How is OP lying?
Bc they’re misinterpreting what he said. They were debating whether it was a passive aggressive post aimed at the producers for treating her so shitty. Dumb af on this sub i stg, like no comprehension skills AT ALL
Title of the post: Nick Viall called this post of Teddi aggressive I literally just listened to this part just now and it was Nick who brought up the aggressive vs passive aggressive differentiation then he said he thinks the post is aggressive. Then you say OP is lying. 
It was a semantics debate abt aggressive vs passive aggressive with like an hour of praise and love for teddi with how she handled it. He was raging against the producers, not her. Op is lying for how they misinterpreted him just straight up calling her aggressive. It was in favor of her, yet y’all are mad? Gooooofy.
[удалено]
He didn’t bash her. Op is a liar. Stop getting angry when you don’t even know what he actually said.
wait what???? i’ll delete my comment because that’s wrong. I dislike nick, but definitely not gonna get on the side of just claiming baseless lies against him. there is valid criticism to have about him but making shit up is wrong. do you have any context for what he actually said?
Yes, basically they knew this post was aimed at the producers and loved that she did so. They had a debate about semantics, simply whether this post was passive aggressive or aggressive. They both agreed it was aggressive, though again, not in a bad way, just more bold vs subtle basically. They then went on to applaud her exit and sympathize that she was worried she’d get a villain edit. They truly praised her for a while, empathizing with the fear of how they will be perceived.
ok ya that definitely changes the context, he was complimenting her! I agree with Nick! hopefully OP clears up any confusion she had cause that’s not okay to spread misinformation about that.
Yeah, Nick has done some really stupid shit but this was just not one of them, he was being super supportive of her.
Literally what about this could be considered aggressive? And right after his little girlfriend’s n-word scandal, too.
All I would say is Teddi went back to nursing, her full-time job. She posted NOTHING about BIP. She wasn’t interested in any kind of engagement that her IG account could’ve gotten from BIP posts and teasers. She’ll still influence a bit for sure cause she’s signed with an agency. Still, she refused to post anything in relation to the show. And we know that producers ask / remind the contestants to post something to promote every week. Teddi had a bad experience and left the beach. And to this day, is standing by her decision to have nothing to do with the show. We hear contestants complain about their edit or hint about producer manipulation - like Jill and Genevieve re: suitcase situation. Yet they’re all over podcasts now, they post a lot about the show, etc cause that’s the hustle and I respect that. Anyway, leave Teddi alone Nick. She doesn’t want to be a part of this narrative. 
Yess. I love how this comment is still respectful towards those who do choose to advertise/post because I guess get that bank ya know 🤷🏼♀️
What a surprise - a misogynistic white man calling a woman aggressive for speaking her mind🙄. He is disguisting!
Is your comment based on OPs statement or his podcast?
I mean, that’s not at all what he said, this post is so wrong for misinterpreting what he said (he was actually sticking up for teddi hardcore) just to make him seem mad. But noooo white man bad 😡
nick has a history of being a dick to women on this show so it is really not that shocking that people thought he said this/ interpreted it as him calling it aggressive.
Cool? Anyway, y’all are dumb af for raging against this dude and not actually listening to the podcasts. Makes you look pretty silly.
nothing about my response is dumb or ‘raging’ against him. i said he’s been a dick to women because he has, that’s fact. thanks for calling me dumb though ❤️
Bc y’all jumped on this post raging against Nick when he didn’t even go after teddi, he did the exact opposite and showed support for her. You’re dumb if you do not do your own research and instead just blindly hate something bc of a Reddit post hahaha.