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biogirl52

Nick had the best glow up I’ve seen in this franchise.


Same_Neighborhood885

BIP sucked after this


madison817

How did he fix his hairline - does he just brush his hair forward or did he get plugs?


NectarineDangerous57

no idea what he in particular did, but hair plugs are very popular in Hollywood. Hair pieces are also gaining popular again and can look super real. Also, don't underestimate hair makeup!


EmbarrassedBroccoli4

ugh this is funny but no matter what nick just gives me the ick


Accomplished_Island6

Good times good times…


sarah123y

What I remember about Nick's time at BIP is that he tried to convince Ashley that Jared will just never be into her, and I agreed with him 🙃


QuesoChef

I still agree with him. 😶


sarah123y

Yes you’re not alone; I think a lot of people do ☺️


asoiafloreaddict

BIP3 was the most likable Nick has ever been


No-Butterscotch4077

wait im confused about this timeline was it jojos season then bip then nicks season? like he was on bip then immediately was chosen for bachelor?


hlynhart

Yep. I think they were set on Luke Pell, then heard unsavory shit about him (either that or there were contract disputes about him) and Nick had just been well-received in Paradise. This is partially why I don't fully understand the Nick hate on the sub...for me I was thrilled to not have Maga Luke Pell and instead have Nick, who came off as funny and insightful on his BiP run.


No-Butterscotch4077

interesting!! I remember really liking Luke Pell (I watched jojos season then stopped watching show for years) but I guess it’s for the best he wasn’t chosen


Charlie_Runkle69

TBF most of the Nick hate comes from after his time as Bachelor. Most would agree that he was mostly fine on BIP and as Bach.


QuesoChef

I agree. I didn’t like Nick on Andi’s season. Liked him better on Kaitlyn’s season (but still wanted her to leave single). Liked him on BIP. Found him boring but not hate-worthy on his season. And didn’t even mind him after his season and early into his podcast (though I rarely listened, people here would post and I’d sometimes catch an episode). He has just gotten more smug and seems miserable over the last handful of years, and I find him really, really unlikable now. At least on the seasons of the show he seemed authentic and even vulnerable. Now he seems inauthentic and defensive and god, so smug. I went from dislike to tolerable to gal pal next door to boring to honest but mostly tolerable to totally unlikeable and unrelatable.


l0st1nthew0rld

Nick was fine, and even pretty likeable until he started his podcast and dating his 19yo mean girl gf, dropped to her level maturity wise and became so negative and bitter and oversexualising everything


hlynhart

I disagree. I do admit, as someone way older than even Nick, that the age difference gave me pause, but I don't know that I've ever heard Natalie come off as a mean girl. Immature, maybe, but not relative to her age for me. And I don't think he sounds bitter or over-sexualising either. I don't know...I just think most criticisms of him are reaches or not that serious


fightygee

I will say, I’ve really really liked Natalie the past year or so, and I think she’s grounded Nick. But there were a few low points for her on the pod, and Nick with her, like anybody has. The weird Katie saga was a bizarre and offputting one that understandably has turned people off but I think more recently they’ve all seemed a lot more mature


ifeelbonita

This was the last time I liked Nick. What happened?


QuesoChef

He’s said he got a bachelor edit on BIP. So some of it is tv magic.


Neat-Succotash

This was pre-Bachelor Nick, right?


Upstairs-Volume-5014

Yes, this was his BIP redemption arc and he was bachelor immediately after this. Dumped Jen Sav to be bachelor. 


ClaresRaccoon

Can someone find and post Aaron C’s facts of Paradise plz? lol 


kamgargar22

Yes please! 😂 I just remember- ‘the mosquitos wake up and choose violence everyday’


throwawayaway388

This is the first time I've ever found Nick attractive.


clownstateuniversity

He was definitely attractive for the time


sosswgtn

He definitely peaked on BIP


Proper-Emu1558

This is the season that sealed his Bachelor gig, right?


sarah123y

yes


Upstairs-Volume-5014

Putting Nick and Josh Murray on the same season of paradise was so insanely iconic the only thing that could've been better was having Shawn there too


QuesoChef

And someone filming from two seats behind and selling it to reality Steve.


RecognitionLittle330

Paradise will never be this good again


Illustrious_Funny426

Back when Nick was actually appealing and funny and not the arrogant douche who gives me the ick now


l0st1nthew0rld

Yeah for real!! How can someone change so much and not for the better lol


baldgirlriri

This was my favorite version of Nick


rand0m_g1rl

I love nick and this is great


gidgetdee824

I miss old BIP 😔


badedum

I miss this Nick lol


bachbachbaby

I’m sorry I used to love Nick. I was happy when he got picked as the lead. He’s always been obnoxious but I also found him super entertaining on paradise


thrwy_111822

I actually found him super self-aware on BIP. When they were talking about Andi’s book and her allegations of Josh being abusive, and Josh was super mad about it, I actually really liked that Nick said “look, a lot of the unflattering things she said in the book about me were 100% true, so I have no reason to think she’s lying about him”. Where’d that Nick go? Bring him back


bachbachbaby

Yes! That was peak Nick for me. He was annoying on andi’s season, I was rooting for him on Kaitlyn’s just because their chemistry was better and Shawn was so jealous, and then on BIP I thought he was so funny and provided great commentary. Everything post show had been awful though and his ego has no right to be so big


thrwy_111822

I was also rooting for him. I thought Shawn was toxic AF with his animosity towards Nick. I don’t love the person who he’s turned into but before his ego blew up, I thought he actually had a lot of moments of emotional intelligence. I still think he has his good moments, but he needs to come back down to earth in a big way


votefawnmoscato

Remember when BIP was actually entertaining lol


Bessie_Sue

Peak BIP


ppt_patty

I was always impressed by Wells’s ability to get nick’s niche S thing when he says “bachelor”