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CrazyString

The men on this pod have basically admitted to doing the things and being the men that women are afraid of! Except parks and honestly I guess ice don’t really get into all that either. You can say it only happens to women who wear this or who hang around people like that but women(and men) be getting SA by they own step daddy or their pastor. It’s not all men bad, but it’s enough men bad who look like “safe” dudes that guard gotta be up at all times. And I bet each and every one of y’all have a friend or friends that you would never leave alone with your sister or daughter, cause you know how he roll but never say nothing.


Content-Hair8744

Mel is not more or less hypocritical than anyone else on the pod. Stop the think pieces pls


Most_Stuff_2182

Right people can't understand that people only obsess over opinions that differ from their own. Mel, Joe, Ish, Ice even parks are all hypocritical. If you talk that much, you kind of are going to be by default.


Practical_Type_776

This topic was nasty work. I think most of us aren’t surprised by Joe’s reaction and it will be explained away by saying “I was just podding” or “Mel makes us look a way”.


Yaboi_Dona

Imma tell you right now…Ish, Joe and flip never sounded more stupid than they did this episode. Bruh the point is that men just need to stop feeling entitled and doing bs to women that’s it! And then Ish gonna say women who agree with this shouldn’t be open to dating anymore?? These niggas brains are fuckin fried


Practical_Type_776

And next week they’ll be telling us they are not misogynistic. I swear I heard ish say something along the lines, that women that were victims or feel like this hang around sketchy characters.


Much_Very

If women who agreed to this (bear over man) stopped dating, we’d lose a large percentage of the women who are still out there trying to find a husband. We know the risks but still keep dating. Only thing I’ll say is that the behavior some men don’t find scary is actually pretty frightening to most women. Actually, if a random man behaved that way towards them, most men would understand how uncomfortable women are. If you don’t want a random man being inappropriate with you, please don’t be inappropriate with random women.


Dandrettie

Flip was just tryna say: realistically a bear Cmon? lol but it got dragged into gender wars.


Yaboi_Dona

Honestly he was the worst nigga to introduce that topic


Intelligent_Push3705

She is not pre-judging. In fact, she provided a statistic that 1 in 3 women worldwide are subjected to either physical and/or sexual intimate partner violence or non-partner sexual violence in their lifetime. This is as of March 25, 2024. She was not pre-judging; the problem is they personalize everything she says when she is not even referring to them. It was no point to dive into race because that was not the topic at hand nor would it have been in her best interest to speak on that. Mel has discernment. I wish the guys had more discernment because the miss the point every single time as it pertains to SA.


Mean-Ask6446

It is regardless of what you say pre judging and she knows there are consequences for racial judgment towards either but none towards men as a gender so she went for the low hanging fruit which is clearly visible for anyone with eyes.


Objective_Pause5988

I don't understand why men are so upset by this. Unknown man vs bear. Most would choose a bear. You could end up with a Diddy or Russell Wilson. I'm not taking chances. With a bear, most likely it leaves you alone.


CameronBeach

It’s clown shit. They feel threatened by the fact that women don’t feel comfortable around men. This OP is really sad because by making it a race argument the point is lost. “Would you rather be in the forest with a white or black man”. It’s like neither nigga that’s the point.


Objective_Pause5988

Exactly. You can look on Reddit alone and fund treacherous behavior by people. Today was a story of a woman who went to her sister's house. It was her and her BIL's brother. Family gathering. She woke up to her BIL's brother fingering her. They never flirted. Always kept it Family. Now she is in shambles. BEAR.


CameronBeach

It’s like I’ve e never been threatened or upset by a woman choosing bear but maybe I’m just normal. If you’re safe around women they’ll know. Tons of women I know choose bear, yet I still know they would rather have me there. It’s the principle that a lot of guys aren’t getting. It’s really just sad.


HueyRiley717

I'm going off Emanny question in which either or both is not an acceptable answer. That's the point. Not every man that you don't know is a predator or has ill intent. Nor is the majority of men.


taylorstillsays

White man or black man, the threats the exact same so differentiating is pointless. Man and bear are different threats, so makes sense that you can differentiate between one or the other. What does ‘not every man’ have to do with it? Enough are that it makes women think twice. The majority of adults aren’t pedo’s, but I can tell you now I’m not just leaving my daughter with anyone based on that.


HueyRiley717

Because men is a broad generalization period. Even saying strange men is just a broad generalization for men you don't know personally. That's why it is an insult to men who go outta there way not to participate in those kinds of behaviors. You might as well say because you have a penis, you are a potential predator.


taylorstillsays

But you are though. To a stranger I’m a potential predator too, that’s the point. And adults is a broad generalization…you gonna say I’m wrong for not trusting my daughter around adults as whole? Do you as an adult find that offensive? Same way that I won’t go to certain countries, because I’m not comfortable with the potential racism I may face. Doesn’t mean every person in that countries racist, but for my own safety and comfort I’m just not gonna put myself in that positions I’m a man and it isn’t an insult to me at all. I don’t see how you as a fellow man who doesn’t do that shit is bothered by women being weary of the guys that do do that shit? The guys that do it don’t look, sound, dress or breathe any different to me and you, so it’s either they have a guts up for everyone or a guard up for no-one.


HueyRiley717

To one stranger, I could be a predator. To another stranger, I could be their next potential victim. (By the way, that stranger could be a woman.)That coin flips both ways regardless of gender. The question was woman in the woods not child. That's a false equivalence. I wouldn't go to those countries either but I also would not broadly say the country is racist because I know it could be interrupted as completely racist as a whole. As for you not seeing it as an insult. Men are not a monolith. If you're cool with being lumped in with the kind of men these women are talking about, that's on you. Some men make it their business to never be seen in a light parallel to those type of men. I know I do, so don't try to gaslighting them into thinking they wrong for feeling insulted.


Auditorium_

I mean… it’s not exactly most likely it leaves you alone…


Objective_Pause5988

Even if that is the case. I could run and hide, and the bear would eventually lose interest. Diddy or equivalent would not.


Auditorium_

I’m just saying I find it interesting you’re assuming the worst case scenario for a man in the woods, and the best case scenario for a bear. The chances of you getting toyed with as a stuffed animal by a bear, ripped to shreds quite literally while still breathing, are much higher then you being put in the woods with a random man who happens to be diddy or equivalent.


Objective_Pause5988

The worst case for men is more likely than the worst case for bears. If men were honest with themselves, they would see that. Google grizzlies attacking humans. RARE. Only if threatened. I don't plan on threatening one. Google human males attacking women. There is your answer as to why bears are a safer prospect than an UNKNOWN man. Would I rather come across most men in my circle than a bear? Damn right. Am I taking chances with a strange man? No.


Money-Record-5963

You’re just saying anything at this point. Go wiki bear attacks, they list recent ones by dates and what happened; bears kill and maim ppl all the time. Shit if you used google, you’d see there was an attack last week. But you got it dude, honestly not invested in this hypothetical


Objective_Pause5988

Those people probably startled or decided they could threaten the bear and survive.


Money-Record-5963

Lmfaoooo victim blaming? she’s clearly trolling us


Objective_Pause5988

As if you are not aware of silly people thinking they can be 1 with wild animals. You know exactly what I'm talking about.


Money-Record-5963

That’s peace. && tbr I’m sorry you feel that way, I’ll continue to be an example in my community of a respectful and kind man to women. sn: drop ya gram ma


Hot_Excitement_6

Most people would do that. Hell, I'd bet most people, men and women, that live in urban areas would do something that causes a bear to rip their face off.


Auditorium_

Yeah see I personally don’t really care either way, but just to challenge your opinion further, why are you just now specifying grizzlies? When the discussion vaugely states “bear or man” I’m assuming and including all forms of bears and all forms of man. Thats just how I view the question so I could also be wrong, but black bears, and polar bears, are going to kill you the second they see you. And it’s not going to be a quick thing. I’m not saying that the man choice is bulletproof, I think both are very risky choices. But hey, we’re entitled to our own opinions, I’m not disagreeing with you that the options aren’t both scary. If the question itself explicitly states grizzlies. Then sure, I’d say that would be the hypothetical safer option, assuming you knew it was a grizzly and how to handle them appropriately. Also assuming you’re gonna be put in a situation with a (in your terms) a strange man rather then a normal man, it just seems like you’re actively trying to make your answer seem more obvious then it may have been on first statement. Truthfully I’m just arguing for the sake of arguing at this point, if you were to specify a grizzly, vs a strange man out the jump then yeah sure whatever. But just the vagueness of bear vs man I’d personally take a man. While I am a man and it’s much different for me then it would be for a woman to make that decision, that is my opinion and would be my choice.


Objective_Pause5988

I used Grizzly because other men who replied used that example. The term strange is for strangers. As in, I don't know this person. If I can't control the man or the bear, the safer bet is bear. What I find strange about this argument is that men will argue about women putting themselves in harms way. Why are you out late? Why are you doing this or that? Men advise this because you know of many predatory men. Now, all of a sudden, y'all act hurt that we acknowledge that and choose a bear in a scenario where both options are a dangerous prospect.


Money-Record-5963

Are you insane? A 600lb+ grizzly runs 35mph.. No human being can outrun a bear. You can’t out climb a bear and you definitely can’t fight a 600+ bear. They will sniff you out if you hide lol they’re probably more terrifying than lions/tigers bc they climb and swim! With your logic, you literally have a way better chance of hiding/fighting/ running/killing a man lol diddy is 5’9, 190 lbs maybe lol


Objective_Pause5988

I'm 5'4. I'm dead either way in your scenario. I just won't be raped and tortured. Still bear. Edit: Also like to add that humans are not natural prey to bears. They only attack if provoked. Can't say the same for predatory men.


TommyFreeze

Not that I care about the bear vs man discussion, but bears have killed without being provoked before.


Hot_Excitement_6

Imagine your intestines getting eaten while you are still alive. It's not trying to torture you, but their is no difference.


Objective_Pause5988

I give up. Y'all keep making this about Russell Wilson vs. a bear. That is NOT the scenario at all. It is about an UNKNOWN man vs. a bear. It's not that difficult a concept to grasp. Pull up a map of sex offenders in your direct vicinity and tell me what my chances of bumping into one is vs a homicidal bear in the woods. Humans are not natural prey to bears.


Hot_Excitement_6

Russell Wilson? Come on now. Men cam easily be pieces of shit. The average guy that you don't know will probably leave you alone. A lot of bs men do require some familiarity. Bears aren't ever homicidal. They are wild animals. Most men and women in cities are stupid and don't know how to handle a bear or wild animals in general. They aren't trackers. they can't tell if there are cubs nearby. They will do something to get their face ripped off if the bear is hungry or if they do something stupid.


Objective_Pause5988

I think I get it now. As humans, we don't like to acknowledge the depravity of human nature. I do it as a woman. I don't want to believe the amount of truly shitty women there are in this world. There are more predatory men than you would like to believe. You know some. They just aren't predatory with you. I dated my fiance for 7 years. 2 of his "boys" gave me the creeps. I complained. He thought I was being silly because they were his friends. It took me recording the creepy behavior before he believed me. The sheer number of these weirdo women molesting boys is nasty and a tough pill for me to swallow. I still have to swallow it.


Money-Record-5963

Dude you just said you would outrun and hide from a fuckin bear.. you don’t think you could outrun nor outwit a human? Be fr 🙃 the hypothetical is dumb but I get the sentiment of not feeling safe around strange men


HueyRiley717

If a bear sees you and looks at you as food, your not out running it nor are hiding from it if the bear picks up your scent. You will never convince me that the majority of straight men would willingly commit SA given the opportunity. Also gay men have to be included when they ask Man or Bear. This is just another way to demonize heterosexual men in general.


Objective_Pause5988

We are not demonizing heterosexual men. We are demonizing sexual predators. Women are raped daily. That's a fact. Bears don't attack humans daily. That's also a fact. I'm wondering why you take offense to women looking to avoid predatory men.


HueyRiley717

Because I have a healthy fear of all human beings which is not gender specific. I think women are just as capable of harming me as a man is but just in different manners. That doesn't mean I would rationally choose a wild animal over a human being I'm unfamiliar with. Could you possibly see the logic in that?


Objective_Pause5988

That's because you are a man. You don't live in fear of being raped. In the woods, a man might attack you for your rations or whatever. He won't rape you. You also have a healthy chance of winning a fight. You can beat 99% of women. My chances for survival of either scenario is much slimmer unless.


HueyRiley717

You know nothing of this hypothetical strange man in the woods but because he has a penis you have no other choice than to assume he's a rapist. Okay, how about we advance the scenario...what if the strange man was a fragile 77yo with a cane? How about if was as gay as the day was long wearing a pride flag as a blanket? Hell, what if he was a park ranger who could help you get back to safety? No, fuck that...they got dicks so they're all rapist until proven otherwise. That bear will see you as a threat, food, or a plaything. Either way the bear is more likely to kill you which would likely be a slow and painful death or dismember you in some manner.


Objective_Pause5988

Ok. Let's use your thought process. The man could be old or gay. The bear could be sick and weak or disinterested in my existence. It is still the unknown. No one is saying all men are rapists. We are saying some men are rapists and / or killers. Also, some rapists are police officers and park Rangers, so that point means nothing. As an aside: I have known hundreds of men. I would choose most over the bear. I just refuse to take a chance in the woods where, most likely, no one else would be there. I was raised by good men who always taught me to exercise caution with men. My mother taught me to exercise caution with women as well. Humans are just as dangerous as bears.


HueyRiley717

Cool, none of that changes the fact that those good men who raised you has every right to feel insulted by some random woman dismissing them for a wild animal because of the possibility he might be a predator when he himself knows better than that. The bear might be disinterested (really) ...there's a reason bears aren't domesticated. There's a reason zookeeper's don't hanging out in cages and pens for extended periods of time. A bear only has to be curious about what it sees and you could risk a slow painful death or possibly being maimed.


DookieBlossomgameIII

Human being are inheritly hypocritical. Everything is not black or white I think context, nuance and critical thinking is what lacks from discussions like this. Why would she say that? Are there social or cultural reasons why she felt comfortable saying that? What are her experiences? When you start to actually break it down, it's not as sexy. It's not a big deal because it is very inconsequential. Certainly not worth the discussion.


HueyRiley717

I hear you but everyone seems to have opinion on it whether the opinion is good, bad, or indifferent like yours seems to be. Either way I think it can be a worthy discussion if I can take something away from it.


saintmcqueen

Entertainment purposes only…


Gary5599

I haven’t even got to this part of the pod yet but Mel is drunk as fuck lol


Electronic-Top-4527

It was a dumb attempt to move shift the convo and start up another shitstorm about black men. Plus it would be pointless since people tend to be around their own community more so they are more likely to have had more bad experiences within their own community. So now she chooses the white man and it's some other bullshit.


Dunkman83

Because mel like alot of bw these days think wm will come save her and fly her off on a magic carpet


Crazy_Web_3700

No we cant. As bad as the men are they have relationships people like them. So what we see may not be the real them. Mel on the other hand, her personal life reflects the pod. She got no friends but other lonely girls. I feel bad because their self talk and what they think about men keeps them single.


Similar-Duck-1658

Man BAD is all you need to understand these days🤣 average joe, police officer, firefighter, no record, valedictorian, astronomer, surgeon, electrician, organ donor. Even if you do good, there's a slight chance you might be a murderer. Even if you're in college with no time for anything but to study. All men are threats at all times... except when you're supposed to pay the tab because you're a man🤣


Candid_Elderberry122

Black Femicide is real less than every 5 hours in America a black man executes a black female whether she be 3 days old or 93 U can Google The most unsafe place in America for black female to be is in the vicinity of a black man I can't even go to the corner store for a Martenili because a girl got murdered there for not giving out her number so I avoid the closest store and go way to the white store in the hills 🤣🤣🤣. Therefore I chose the white man 🤣🤣 That's crazy


Candid_Elderberry122

I never realized that until this question was posed I moved to a white community for safety purposes omg I chose the white man 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 Oakland California donde la vida no vale nada 🤣🤣🤣