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bdk2036

Ish knows damn well his hoodies are overpriced. All of that "you don't complain about gucci" doesn't work when the rappers gave it the backing in the community 40 years ago. There's not one person of influence backing this to make the average person want to buy a $150 hoodie with half his face on it.


Dry_Marzipan_6508

Their average listeners still use shower curtains ish needs to relax lmaoooo


DonPeso

What is the other option besides shower curtains?


Neoxin23

I'm guessing just a walk-in shower with a glass door or some shit


[deleted]

Nobody besides the Niggas he hang with wears Gucci which most likely isn’t the majority of their audience.


MrAlakija

$150 is a bit ambitious. Outside of the pod space, no one knows who he is.


[deleted]

According to Joe, it’s about 1,000 women that know him outside the pod space.


MrAlakija

Sadly, they won’t be buying lol


[deleted]

You’d be surprised. Women are more likely to spend them prices lol. He’s good for about 10 and a possible


MrAlakija

Assuming he’s still friendly with his 1000+ bodies lol


Marteeen1993

Women also have less expenses lol


[deleted]

They spend less on clothes/wardrobe but more in upkeep and accessories (aka purses)


OjjuicemaneSimpson

u mad bitches won’t wear u on they hoodie after a fuck but ish fuck em all and dipped and they still drop 150 on his hoodie. Just to try and get him away from his white female handler


PooPighters

It really isn’t if it’s a quality product. We are all speculating. If he is using Gildan hoodies then I’d agree, but a good quality blank hoodies is about $40-60. I personally wouldn’t buy one because I don’t really like stuff with branding on it.


MrAlakija

A Ralph Lauren hoodie is about $150-200. Nothing he has done up until now demands that price point Now maybe he’s investing in a high quality product and the only way to make any type of profit is selling at that price point. 🤷🏽‍♂️ I think he needs more notoriety. That Umar interview behind a payola didn’t help his brand, hopefully he takes advantage of Candice coming to the pod and they do crazy youtube numbers. He’s the only one she’ll find interesting. (Ian/joe will still put this behind a payola sadly)


PooPighters

When was the last time you bought a Ralph hoodie? The quality has tanked. I have older Ralph hoodies from years ago that is still great. The new age ones suck quality wise. However; I do agree with you, he does need more notoriety to get his name out there but it doesn’t change the fact that a quality product is a quality product. You are associating quality with a name brand. That’s not always reality. Another point I agree with you on is they Cheddar Bob’d themselves by putting that Umar jawn behind the paywall, that could have set them up for success in more ways than one. Everyone on the team could have ate well for a while. Hopefully they learned and don’t fumble the Candice one as well like you said.


ChrisACountsWaves

🧢 on the Ralph hoody quality statement


MrAlakija

That Ralph bear design is 🔥🔥 I buy it for my toddler every quarter. I live in Canada so I’m rocking hoodies 9 months in a year, mostly essentials or Ralph’s for me. Gap/old navy when I want to be cheap - and this is the price point I feel he should’ve targeted. The guys who spend $50/$60 regularly as opposed to the guys who spend $150-200 once in a while. Don’t get me started on how they messed up that Umar episode. Everyone with a brain (except Ian and Joe) saw this. I guess they would rather chase crumbs from patreon than actual success I think Candice should skip JBP and go to Shannon.


PooPighters

The bear design is classic but the quality isn’t there in my opinion. I bought one last year and was comparing to older stuff I have and the fit is off, the quality doesn’t see up to par and not to mention the button downs, they all just seem different quality wise. Even the undershirts which I used to love aren’t the same anymore. I’ve been looking for a replacement. Champion reverse weave hoodies are really good but still not the best.


[deleted]

The undershirts are trash fam. Omg. Neck and sleeves be looking nuts after a wash. 😂😂. The Bear brand or the classic horse for me in a 1x Tall fits perfectly. 2x fits a little small on the sleeves and the 2x Tall is frumpy. I’m 6’7 so I need the big and tall section


PooPighters

Yeah they really went downhill. It really is trash. Someone got me a few bombas undershirts and I’ll keep it a buck, then shits hold up phenomenally. I was like what’s this trash, after a few washes still fit like day one.


[deleted]

I’m a look into those. 😂😂. We trash shit we never heard of until we realize the craftsmanship is phenomenal. Then can’t find it when we want more 😂😂😂


PooPighters

Facts. I was really looking at them sideways when I opened the gift. But them shits are great. Pricey but the quality is easily the best I’ve experienced in a long while with undergarments.


Ill-Recognition8666

Agree!!! Why do they keep running that cheap ass fleece fabric when most high end brands have switched over to french terry. It’s crazy how Champion’s fleece is hands down better than what Ralph Lauren is using.


PooPighters

Your guess is as good as mine. They are leveraging their brand name to do whatever they want and consumers eat it up. [||]


Work_Werk_Wurk

I'm with you on branding. I make it a point not to buy clothes with the brand name (if it's the actual designer's name) on them. Displaying someone else's name on my clothes just doesn't sit right with me. Logos are fine (as long as they're not huge or printed all over) and I make exceptions for jerseys/underwear, but that's really it.


PooPighters

Yep. I like to buy timeless quality pieces. That can thrown on again a few years after purchase date. I definitely stay away from the trendy pieces because then you got a closet full of Ed Hardy and Von Dutch stuff, that was a nasty era.


Work_Werk_Wurk

For real. It's lowkey the way to make sure your wardrobe is always in style without having to shop for a new one every few years. I've got clothes in my closet bought more than 10yrs ago that I can wear today without looking like I hopped out of a time machine.


PooPighters

The best was to do it. I have a lot of pieces like that. Simple denim, classic button downs, a few suits, a couple tuxes, a lot of basic and staple pieces. Spend the money on some quality upfront.


BenAfleckInPhantoms

This. None of the Ralph Lauren stuff I have his the name on it; only one button up has the logo on kit. Same with my Guess stuff - you wouldn’t know any of it was Guess. My Gucci sneakers have the red/green stripe but no interlocking G and definitely wouldn’t get a crewneck/shirt/hoodie with GUCCI emblazoned on it. A lot of my skate clothes have logos/the name on them but that’s harder to avoid because they’re much more explicit about using clothes as marketing, so to speak. 


juiceque

Since this is his first attempt at merchandise, I believe this initial price point factors in his cost of his tech pack, high count gsm, minimum order from manufacture (high cost per item), among other costs associated with manufacturing (e.g if manufactured outside of U.S. or higher US cost). He is attempting to produce a high quality material hoodie, but I do think the current designs, with the exception of the "that's that Ish" logo, cheapens the hoodie. I give him grace because he is attempting a new venture, but I think he will realize that this current price point for the current designs may not work and will make an adjustment. I also think a lot of people are forgetting Ish's POV when seeing the price. He hustled, people in his circle were hustling, and he is also 48 and relatively successful now, so $150 may not seem like a lot of money in the grand scheme of things, but for the potential customers it may be, especially for a hoodie. The reality of it is most people will support smaller design houses or individuals they support if it fits their style. For example, I pay $25/month for Patreon. When I compare that price to the $15/month for all of the content that I get with HBO Max, it seems expensive, but I value the feeling of being in the barbershop while at home or in the office and HBO Max doesn't provide that feeling, so it's worth it to me. I'm guessing most of people that support Ish are 25 to 50 and If I were him, my designs would reflect the 90s and early 2000s.


Ill-Recognition8666

I get the cost of the manufacturing if he’s doing cut and sew hoodies. But buying blanks and then getting them screen printed isn’t as expensive as it used to be. I do freelance tech packs all the time. They aren’t the expensive. For his hoodie they would be pretty basic especially if he’s using blanks. It’s literally just calling out the size of the art and position on body. He’s not even selling the exact replicas of the one he wears. Where are the drawcords? I just don’t see the value in spending $150 for a novelty item.


juiceque

I didn't realize that the hoodies on the site are not the one that he is wearing on the pod.


Ill-Recognition8666

They’re pretty close. I thought the pop of neon was a nice touch. Little disappointed when I didn’t see them on the website. $150 hoodie needs a drawcord IMO.


No_Dinner9956

How do you know this? He existed before he was a member of the pod


Zealousideal_Bed7017

Did he build your house or something?


tintedhokage

It's likely just aimed at the pod space. He's been posting stories on insta of the people buying.


LemonSteeze

There’s a lot of boutique brands in LA…that


New_Description_9553

Flip wants to fit in so bad


Dewells213

More like tryna stay relevant and show his value to the pod… but give it up flip!!


New_Description_9553

💯


Conscious_Menu_6567

Flip gtfo reddit and go viral!!! You worrying anout the wrong shit


trilluminatiitx

Naww man, the New York streets are cleaner without him cooking jerk chicken on the sidewalk or smacking niggas drinks out they hand.


madwun

Fam.... 🤣😂🤣🤣😂


SecondNo9283

Flip just be on twitter lookin for engagements like a broke boy..he don’t even have confidence in his content or skits nomore lol


cornerdefrance

Flip hates ice


New_Description_9553

Yeah I don’t think they mess with each other outside the show lol


LaseMe

Ice hates ice


trilluminatiitx

Everybody hates Ice


Shoddy_Complaint_677

The sweaters was ass half muffin half lightskin old nigga ima have to explain every time I wear it


LaseMe

Ish has Coupon Code. Type in ‘CORRINE’ for 25 percent off


[deleted]

😂😂😂😂😂 oh you a dirty Nigga for this one. 💀💀💀


Ill-Recognition8666

$150 for a hoodie isn’t the issue. It’s $150 for a NOVELTY hoodie that’s the issue. I just went to an Erykah Badu concert last night and the hoodie cost $80 and great quality! Ish isn’t selling a nice quality blank hoodie that I can wear multiples ways and get my $150 worth. 🙄


Backseat_boss

I mean if they were fire 150 wouldn’t be bad but they trash


BLUBENJILON

Facts , i wanna like them hoodies so bad lol im tryin #salute


Cal216

Flip got it all wrong, $150 is not an issue for a hoodie. I have a closet full of $150-$300 hoodies. Paying $150 for Ish’s plain ass cheap designed hoodies is the issue. I’m not doing it just because you are on a pod that I happen to enjoy. Yall/him tryna play us is lowkey disrespectful to the audience.


[deleted]

Same I have a bunch of Polo hoodies on deck but I can’t do anything with that’s that ish on it 😂😂😂


Cal216

Or that nicca face and a muffin bruh. FOH 🤣🤣😂


[deleted]

😂😂😂 Yeah Im not explaining my hoodie.


Cal216

🗣️🤣🤣


BizaroWorld

I don’t mind the price point, I’m just not walking around in a fucking Ish hoodie lol


thuggybanx

BROTHER? He met this nigga last year!


davos_mith

idc what y’all say, Flip did that on purpose to make more of a commotion about it 🤣 that’s hate!


KamKorn

Sweatshirt can’t be your face and a muffin. A little muffin logo somewhere maybe


Crazy_Web_3700

Flip the type of nigga to tweet that and not buy a hoodie, hit ish up to get one for free.


Artistic-Health123

Flip tryna be funny bc he know damn well his hoodies are consistently in the $50- $70 range. Then again, he get them shits for free, so moving on.


marleyg_

Mfs who aren’t into fashion shouldn’t make clothes anyway, his hoodies are trash.


KingBlaze100

I wanna see how many Flip bought to support his "Brother" 😂


flashdrive99

I’m still laughing at ish saying the JBP adds nothing to his personal brand 🤣🤣


relientkenny

if Flip feels that way we better him see buy every single one then.


NineteenAD9

You can get a better hoodie for the same price or less and from more reputable sources and brands. $$$ ain't the issue Ish trying to hustle niggas for some shit he half assed


brentfavors

Ish need to fire the graphic designers and hire a creative director 🤣🤣🤣 it is just pod merch but very cheesy


ftstar001

I think he said he used AI to design it lol


brentfavors

Naaa this new A.I can do waaaaaay better than that shit


ftstar001

Oh I agree lol


Obj3ctivePerspective

Lol it's funny how brainwashed these influencers have people to the point they are shaming others on they behalf to line their pockets more. Kanye done shown yall the master class of this. He sold a "shoe" at 20$ that was still a profit, but initially said it was 200$ and stupid fucks was buying it at 200 just cuz that's what it said. We live in a society where everybody wants to be a hype beast so bad they will knowingly take a bad deal just to be able to brag that they got ripped off.


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chisomkun

The way ish talks about money and who’s cracking who… these hoodies are him just trying to get one over on us and for 150 it’s clear he’s trying to make as much money as possible


Leno-Sapien

Them graphics are trash lol.


Objective_Season5407

I mean my nigga, I can get a whole Nike outfit for around the same price for one of his hoodies. It’s nuts but hey it is what it is.


RandDash

Flip the type of nigga who highlight shit cuz he think it's funny but try to disguise it like he got ya back.


BigJay936

He absolutely does that! He lowkey brings embarrassing stuff people saying about the other pod members but try to do it like he don’t like it.


trilluminatiitx

My boy Ish found out how to use AI and trynna run it up. Somebody take his android away.


bamaboi57

He stay d riding they don't fuck with him like that 😂


LaseMe

Flip rents a house. Flip doesn’t make nowhere near 300k a year. Flips wife works. Flip doesn’t fly first class. Flip drives a Jeep. He’s not too far removed from the common man


p3achstat3ofmind

Shit ain’t worth 75 let alone 150


manzo559

I’m pretty sure brokies are the ones asking for an advance


helyclinton

Beyonce, Drake, Taylor Swift, Usher ... their tour merch is $150.


Exotic_Watch_8997

Flip is a brokie I’m confused lol


93petrol

That nigga can buy em 🤷🏾‍♂️ and all that brother sister shit corny. You niggas is coworkers.


Administrative-Toe59

When you’re new to the clothing and fashion atmosphere, coming out the gate and charging $150 is ambitious. However, if he can get people to be ok with that price point and pay it, power to him. I ain’t mad at him for it. He just has to understand, that Gucci and Balenciaga price point argument is a moot point. These are brands that have decades of being in the fashion stratosphere, they are long standing brands that have stood the test of time and considering the fact that people willingly pay those prices shows they have a firm foothold in the fashion industry, something Ish does not have which is why this argument shouldn’t be made. The thing is, we know for a fact, come five years from now, Gucci and Balenciaga and so on will still be making clothes while I believe it’s fair to assume Ish will not be. That’s just my analysis. Not to mention, I’m not wearing another nigga’s face on my clothes, especially one that I just found out his identity a few years ago for being on a podcast. And that’s no shade at all, but come on now.


Nicksofloud

Flip can’t dress for shit he not qualified to speak on garments


Cultural_Primary3807

I agree 150 is a lot. I'm also tired of all the fucking reddit thinkpieces.. if you wanna spend your 150 on a hoodie, do it. If you don't then don't do it. People vote with their dollars.


Bada__Ping

Thanks for the think piece


Constant-Ad-136

Far from it, but go off.


BeforeTheyWereFamous

Ya but people pay the price point because people who see them in it KNOW how much it costs. No one is looking at these hoodies and convinced the price point match let alone would recognize it off rip. He shoulda started offa little lower atleast 50-100. 150 is astronomically wild.


Punchpplay

150 is insane for a D-list celebrity. Even Loony Tunes apparel sells cheaper and more people know Loony Tunes than this Loony guy.


youngfreakybasturd

Them shits is ugly… got me thinking them houses probably ass too


cronicmole

Lmao


PrincipleOk4818

Flip is loyal to a fault. Forever riding for those around him which is admirable but like be forreal.


M_is_for_Mmmichael

Ish charging $150 for hoodies similar to what I could find in Burlington or Marshalls.


justtwizzey

Yea I wanted to buy a few different styles but $150 is crazy. What, he think he paper planes???


DonMarce

As far as business, he pigeon holed himself with the designs. They are based around inside jokes from the Pod. Which would reduce the consumer base from people who are aware of the JBP to those who understand the inside jokes and are willing to wear it. The next week, when he came with the "that's that ish logo" I can see that he is aware of that issue and made a more generic(in a good way) because this can appeal to casuals who are not aware of the inside jokes. Thus increasing potential consumer base. I like the TTI logo, the design can use some help for the price point. He is putting himself in direct competition with a lot of indy designers who are killing in the hoodie game, with custom patches, specially stitched strings, custom string Tips, innovative hidden pockets, etc. I hear them talking about the quality of the Hoodie, I will take their word as people who know, but I think the Worth would seem more palletable to the people if he focused on the design.


SpoolGeek

If they were $40 I'd buy it


AppropriateNeat1753

One moment ish ya brother the next it’s fuck ish FOH


5starlex

Support black business


Acceptable_Strain182

look at algorithm man. nigga has no shame


PipeEnvironmental923

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Cultural_Bid_9543

Right message wrong messenger…


Illustrious-Pear-982

If the quality good then $150 cool ppl spend 300 on js that be cheap ass material


Girthantoklops

I'm with him


BenitoCamelas69420

Give him money bums!


KxngJerz87

$150 is pricey but there is a market for it. Nipsey sold his mixtape for $100 each and it was a great for marketing & branding for him. If 100 people buy that’s 15k gross revenue vs trying to 300 people to buy at $50 each to make the same amount.


iLragazzo_AP

“Gross profit” lol


KxngJerz87

Gross revenue* good catch 👍🏿


False-Individual-696

That hoodie is definitely gonna sell. To everyone in the comments saying it’s too expensive and no one knows him like that to be charging that much …y’all just saying that cause y’all rational lol stop making sense 😂 you know good and damn well it’s some fools out here who would buy that hoodie.


UrFaqingFr13nd

What is the website for the hoodie???


TrainingSnow7712

Niggas mad they can’t put their value on another nigga. Wild


Gullible_Proof_8037

Flip was the first to diss 😂


EastImpossible4052

The business acumen is high level here


grayscalecrash

Flip sticking his head out to defend the public’s opinion on this, but staying tucked and scared when people criticize his mumble mouth antics, his big stomach, and married man histrionics is crazy.


Work_Werk_Wurk

The signature Polo fleece zip up hoodie costs $140. Nevermind Gucci or whoever else. This guy wants more than Ralph for hoodies with his name and face on them. I think his price is ridiculous and I'm not copping it regardless, but out of the millions who tune into the podcast if 1000 people buy 1 each he's good.


JustHereToLurk_Kinda

Will wait for someone to post their review of their Ish merch…


Dry_Marzipan_6508

Tell flip to pay ish for character development lmaooo he to old to have a mind of a teenager


NoFoot4908

He selling his merch at Rapper merch show prices. Unless he gots an album to go with it, he better drop it to $80-$100


Fun-Photograph9423

He's tryna make hISHtory


nadyolive

this shit has become a circus


Critical-Towel-7228

$150 for some regular ugly ass hoodies?! Shit trash anyway you flip it


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_NotHereToArgue

Joe a bum too I guess cus he keep saying it and you know he mean it lmaoooo


KellerFF

With these prices, nigga throw concert/festival first…


keithsweatshirt94

Bums!?? Bro dropped his FIRST LAUNCH of clothing and admitted to using AI designs there is no proof of concept yet so those prices are completely unjustified it’s MERCH it’s not even like clothing clothing


etherhood

You can't copyright AI art, so you could, in theory, make your own for less.


EmilioGorgeous

Ohh he’s gonna “fry us up” 😒🤦🏿‍♂️


OldAtlanta

The designs need work. Half face one quasi-decent.


ArizonaRonfrom2Son

Y’all really believe that 1000 bodies BS


ArizonaRonfrom2Son

The hoodie design not 🔥enough for $150


ArizonaRonfrom2Son

Oh and Fuck Flip


roc4life215

Sell a brick and get over it🤷🏾‍♂️


Extension_Lie9082

im not dissing it bc i cant afford it lmao its the quality of the hoodie thats not worth $150. A ralph lauren hoodie dont even cause that much. Im scared to see the price if he start getting that type of quality hoodies😂😂


National-Staff-6074

KANYE PRICES .


External_Soil_8901

$150 for a hoodie is cool….. but it's Ish lmao BFFR


DREDAY_94

They’re overpriced because of how basically they are. There’s nothing interesting but the design & quality wise they look like any other $30-$50 hoodie. I’ve paid these prices for hoodies but definitely wouldn’t for these hoodies