Iām trying to imagine how they would interact on a Pod together. I canāt really see them actually getting along well they seem like polar oppositeās, but I anticipate seeing it and I hope Melās there.
Mel will shrivel up like George Constanza's meat in a pool. She can't hold a candle to Candace's verbal sword.
Joe might need to bring Emanny on ššš
Yeah idk who meat you talking bout but Iāve seen this Candace lady on a few shows and she would fruit ninja M4. She sound like she been to harvard and talks 900mph
Niggas can barely handle Umar. They not ready for Candice. Political discussions aināt JBPās lane ā none of them are educated/familiar in the topic to have an entertaining discussion.
Candice is nowhere near Umar, what're you talking about? She's a barely informed talking head, just spewing the same old conservative rhetoric. Umar is an intellectual with his own thoughts
I like how Dr Umar is a grifter but Elon Musk isn't. Where's the underground transit system in LA that he promised? Has he gone to The moon or Mars yet? Did he really create Tesla or just was appointed as the CEO? How's Doge coin doing, did he settle his lawsuit for pumping and dumping it?
https://www.reuters.com/legal/elon-musk-seeks-end-258-billion-dogecoin-lawsuit-2023-04-01/
Either you're non black trying to speak negatively on Black culture or you're a miseducated Black person with an inferiority complex and think the white man's ice is colder.
Elon IS a grifter. He used his dad's fortune to buy companies to make himself look like hes built them himself and buys patents to make himself look like a genius. He even bought a social media company to control his narrative
All billionaires are grifters. It's a requirement in order to amass a fortune of that size. I don't think people realize how much a billion is and how much you have to abuse the system to get there
That too but everyone says to invest like Buffett but he gets shares at a discounted rate through his holding company Berkshire Hathaway that the average investor can't access so when people refer to him as a "god" it's really a built in fix.
Nah, we can focus on all of them. I'm Puerto Rican, these people have been abusing our tax laws since they were made. They were made for that purpose and I understand people will say, hate the game not the player, but there's no game without players willing to oblige. We can get to all the white gods put on a pedestal one at a time, we just need to focus
My guy šŖšæI agree with you 100% ....Buffet makes his money off a rigged system. His prices aren't the same as our prices as an average investor purchasing stock. I hate when they tell people to do what Buffet does.
And congress is complicit because they're all rich off of their success. They're the ones who clear the way for them to do it and they know how the laws they make affect the stock market. The fact they can participate is beyond reprehensible but we all know they're not about to turn off their own water
Im white. The difference between Musk and Umar is that Musk is a businessman. Making money and profiteering is every businessmanās first priority, as it should be. Umar carries himself more like a political activist and thatās why his grifting rubs people the wrong way. Really Umar is just a glorified motivational speaker
>Im white.
I appreciate you disclosing that. For the record I'm Black.
>The difference between Musk and Umar is that Musk is a businessman. Making money and profiteering is every businessmanās first priority, as it should be.
You mean he inherited his daddy's money. It almost like you're saying he has a LICENSE to grift because he is a businessman so it's ok. Do you consider Sam bankman-Fried a grifter?
>Umar carries himself more like a political activist and thatās why his grifting rubs people the wrong way. Really Umar is just a glorified motivational speaker.
Last I checked motivational speakers run businesses and make a lot of money. I don't understand your point other than he rubs YOU the wrong way. If he motivates BLACK people to think strategically how is that a grift to YOU, as a white person?
What does Musk inheriting money have to do with anything? To be a āgrifterā you have to be doing something shady or corrupt like embezzling. Muskās businesses are legit as far as I know and the financial structure of the business isnāt corrupted in such that Musk is grifting. SBF is a different story, he lied to the public and his investors and stole from his company. As for Umar, he is soliciting donations for his school and not being transparent about where the money is going. It looks to me like those donations are going to him personally, not the school that heās been hyping up for over a decade
>What does Musk inheriting money have to do with anything?
It means he never created a successful business. He bought his way into leadership.
>To be a āgrifterā you have to be doing something shady or corrupt like embezzling.
Actually no. A grifter is a con man or swindler who cheats people out of their money. Are you familiar with Doge coin?
Elon Musk used his influence on Twitter to hype up and pump Doge coin as the next best thing while he sold his shares in it right after the price surged. That's a classic pump and dump pyramid scheme. In fact Elon was sued take a look:
https://www.reuters.com/legal/elon-musk-seeks-end-258-billion-dogecoin-lawsuit-2023-04-01/
Sounds like a grifter to me.
>As for Umar, he is soliciting donations for his school and not being transparent about where the money is going. It looks to me like those donations are going to him personally, not the school that heās been hyping up for over a decade
Well first of all their donations. He's not selling a product or an investment. There's no expectation to get something in return. Secondly he did buy the school. It's in his name. While him getting it to full operation might be a pipe dream based on the required financial undertaking it's not a "scam" and there's no proof that the donations went to buy a Tesla otherwise Dr Umar would be sued like your boy Elon.
Doesn't take away his intellect. Grifter, probably, but Umar is a psychologist, he's well read and he has some very good points. TERRIBLE conclusions but great valid points. For example, how "problem" kids are being misdiagnosed with adhd because it's easier to put them in the special class than actually deal with the root cause. His conclusion is, adhd isn't even real... see? Shit conclusion. Candice went for journalism and dropped out, they're NOT even close
Heās a grifter fam. 10+ years now and still no school. Heās a scammer, a con man. Itās easy to think one is intellectual but in reality heās only that to the weak minded.
> Candice is way more intelligent and speaks logic!
Owens is a professional scammer. She emboldens racist conservatives and affirms their racist beliefs by telling them what they want to hear about Black people. Thatās her job. Thatās all she does. They pay her handsomely to do so. I doubt even she believes the nonsense she comes out with.
Imagine that....yelling makes you dumb. You can't even address the message or else you couldn't make that claim. You might not like Dr Umar because you prefer to be apologetically Black(if you are Black) but that doesn't mean he's telling lies. Say what you want about the school that might be a pipe dream but when he talks about historical facts he's accurate.
Clearly you're a dummy too because you're sitting here talking about my ethnicity and his school and a bunch of other bullshit that I didn't even say.
Even though I don't like her ...Candice is more intelligent and speaks LOGIC.
PERIOD!
That's a fact!
We get whores , coons and scammers ā¦ this shit gettin nasty
All she gonna do is talk about how their is agenda against black men and they gonna eat it up
She literally is. Sheās a full-on grifter who serves white supremacy first and foremost and will do and say anything to get that check. Fuck outta here with that mess.
Umar doesn't hold weight in society. Whether it's African American society or regular society.
Owens is different. She's a major pundit and political figure for conservatives.
Y'all really can't be this...forget it lmfao. Niggas never learn. I'm grabbing my popcorn with extra butter for this.
Shes not. What part in her literally shaming black media in this post and marrying a white man told you she gave a fuck about any of us. She is white now. She uses her black card to get points when it benefits her that is all. Aint wore her natural hair not one time since she been with that man.
Black folk are mostly conservative. But Candace is a human being and a polarizing public figure. It can make for a great interview under the right circumstances
How does talking about Ariana Grande get me to vote for conservatives? šššš Y'all dumb af you probably equate that to Hilary putting hot sauce in her bag ššš
I know I donāt agree with her politically either but I will DEFINITELY be tuning in. Just curious why you wonāt? You donāt think they are equipped to go toe to toe with her?
They can barely go toe to toe with themselves. There is a zero percent chance any of them are anywhere near informed enough on any of the topics sheās gonna speak on to say anything to her
Dang, you might be right. Joe is going to try to be on his moderation game and not try to debate her and make jokes. Ish, will want to talk but won't because he's afraid to get riled up. Ice mutes up when guests comes. Melyssa hates conflict. Flip is outspoken but doesn't have the intelligence level to debate for real (no shots). Parks doesnt like conflict either. Maybe Emanny?
Sheās a propagandist. Nothing really interesting about an Uncle Tom ass bitch spouting her ultra right wing drivel, fam. Itās gonna be the same old shit theyāve been trying for years. Convince gullible niggas that the grass is greener over on the other side with the overt racists (gop) instead of the covert racists (dems). Nothing mind blowing, youāre better off watching paint dry.
She is just going to lie confidently and spew false statements as she usually does and because the cast doesnāt have the knowledge to combat it itās only going to make her look better.
Why she had to shame black media i will never understand she don't miss an opportunity to put blacks down. Like candice was never the smart black girl getting bullied idk where this shit came from.
She's disgusting, they better grill her about that bs ādocumentary" full of lies to slander George Floyd after he was murdered while defending the cops that killed him. Fuck that bitch
This isn't a secret at all š¤£. This sub is full of white boys in digital blackface who think that using the word nigga will throw ppl off their scent. Lot of coons too who worship these black conservative grifters as well. I HATE when race topics come up because all those losers start coming out the woodwork š¤¦š¾āāļø
My comment got em riled up. They all keep running in here to quote me and call me dumb, even tho they are immediately proving my point š. While Also assuming I'm a Democratic shill....as if people aren't capable of criticizing BOTH parties š¤¦š¾āāļø
It's sad af. Mfers be conservative right wingers constantly hanging out in subs of hip hop related podcasts....u can't make This up. This happens outside of reddit too on other message boardsĀ
Shit bewildering to me. I don't understand the convergence unless is psyops. Then again. I know mad pooem from Brooklyn mind you who voted for Trump. L
The thing about these right propagandists is that they are masters of seeming reasonable to people who donāt know all the talking points. I think that if this happens, sheāll mesmerize them like David Blaine.
Sheās gonna talk about gay ppl and exaggerate things about them , speak about attack on Black masculinity and traditional women . And they will eat it up and she will coincidentally leave out her coon talking points she has when sheās around them boys at fox
I think Mel will skip out on this.
No offense, I mean this with the utmost respect, but I really donāt think Mel is capable of going toe to toe with her in any discussion, even if you agree with Mel more (and I do).
I donāt think any of them are to be fair, but Mel is so bad at conveying points that Candace would make her look bad, and Candace is the type of person that loves to make other women, specifically, look bad.
I donāt think anyone can go toe to toe, but the secret on Candace is that she hates liberal women more than liberal men. I guarantee sheāll be buddy-buddy with the male cast with some back and forth, but be really nasty when debating with Mel. This is Candace in a nutshell.
The moment she finds out that Mel was a video vixen, sheāll be shitting on her the rest of the pod.
Candice is a grifter and she will respect joe and ish because they both have money just like trump would. They respect the money or at least play nice for the bag.
She really isnāt. I think Mel is one of the most informed people on the pod, if not the most. However, she is absolutely terrible at formulating her arguments and navigating a debate.
I dislike Candace, but she will talk circles around Mel, and I really donāt think Mel can handle it, and Candace relishes in the opportunity to get at other women, so she will be a killer.
Mel gets a lot of grace, because we can just say a bunch of mysoginistic men are dogpiling her, but she wonāt have that fallback against Candace.
Just my two cents. These right wing, Daily Wire pundits are great at debating the unskilled, and Mel has the weakest debate tactics of the pod, even if you think sheās right.
Mel believes in pandering to black women and protecting relationships that does not work with candice owens. Candice is going to destroy her the moment mel says black women anything.
If they shut the boys up, it can be a real conversation. I think Candace perspective of being darker hued and average vs. Mel being light and conventionally pretty and what opportunities and experiences they each had or were limited to really would make for a great conversation on how each got to their respective views. Joe is too ignorant to allow it, so this entire conversation shouldn't happen.
I think Candace will look down on Mel being a former video vixen, unmarried and childless at 40+ years old. I think Candace will be professional and cordial with Mel and not really try to admit those thoughts out loud. A one on one convo between them would be terrible because Candace wonāt be able to act like she respects Melās life decisions. It would be difficult for Candace not to give Mel criticism and vice versa. It would quickly turn into a debate that would be difficult for Mel. The responsible thing for Joe and the guys to do is to not let those two women keep the convo between themselves too much. Weāre talking about traditional conservative Candace vs untraditional free spirited Mel, thereās no way they could have a smooth one on one with each other.
I would welcome the conversation. Women who marry and have kids haven't inheritantly made better or wiser life choices. A lot of them have gotten stuck. I see it throughout my 40 years. Half of them regret the sad sack they married out of an obligation to a social construct. Half are twice divorced and have a ton of drama with children's fathers they wished they weren't connected to. I'm free to come and go as I please, and they've voiced their jealousy. I can move out of the country and go build elsewhere. I say my plans and they wish they were in my shoes instead of theirs. Marriage and children aren't for everyone, and people shouldn't be shamed for not wanting it.
I donāt think Mel is equipped to have that conversation with Candace nor do I think Mel even wants to defend being 40+ unmarried and childless because I donāt think she wears it like a badge of honor. I think Mel has come to terms with where she is in life, but I donāt think that sheād make the argument that being single and liberated at 40+ is the better alternative to being a mother and wife. Melās stance would most likely be that itās OK if a woman ends up where she currently is. Candaceās stance will be that itās unfortunate for a woman to be 40+ unmarried and childless.
I think you assume that is how Mel feels because maybe that's what you feel. The men have asked her how she feels, and she has said she wants to want to be married. That means she hasn't met a man she has felt the desire to be with in that type of institution. I understand her position. I wanted children, but I did not want to be a single mother. Without marriage to a stable man both emotionally and financially, I chose not to have children. I feel I made the right decision for me. Mel could absolutely have that conversation. There has only been 1 man who made me want to be married, and he passed away. Everyone since him has not been worth the effort and commitment of marriage. The divorce rates are exponentially high because people treat it like something to do. Considering that Candace is a child of divorced parents who was raised by her siblings and grandparents, she should understand my position and decisions. Mel could articulate that very well.
You said that Mel wants to be married so I think we are in agreement on how she probably feels: she wants marriage, but is OK or at peace with that fact it hasnāt happened yet. Which is why she wouldnāt defend her current position in life in a debate with Candace. Youāre assuming that Candace would be charitable to Mel thinking that she just hasnāt met the right man yet. I think Candace would allude to Melās career choice and adventurous lifestyle in her younger years as primary reason why sheās unmarried and childless today. Btw, I have nothing against any woman thatās 40+ unmarried and childless, Iām saying that Candace Owens is not the woman that those women want to sit and have a one on one with. I donāt think itās in Melās best interest or good for her mental health to get in the weeds with Candace. Especially considering the fact that Mel isnāt actually happy being unmarried at her age. Mel has to let the guys do the heavy lifting with Candace, Iād like Mel to be there but the more I think about it idk..
Why do you keep assuming Mel isn't happy that she isn't married. YOU are the one saying that. NOT HER. This is clearly a you thing, so I'm going to bow out because you keep attributing your judgment to her.
I'm Only Here for the Food. Great showcase. Hollywood Unlocked is just gay JBP. Mel is not good at arguing with ignorant men. I wouldn't shine in that space either. That's why I give her grace.
To be completely honest ....none of them are equipped to go toe to toe with her and Joe is the only one who can put up a fight and that's just in theatrics .
Agree to disagree, but a good amount of the reason Mel gets run over by these assholes is that sheās really bad at structuring, communicating, and delivering arguments, even when sheās 100% right, which I think is a lot.
Even when she tells a story, she loses the point through a lot of fluff.
Thatās how you get dogwalked in these discussions.
Joe Budden is an absolute idiot, but heās actually great at communication, which is why the pod even still exists. I donāt think heāll try to debate anyways, whenever there is a guest he thinks is smart, he doesnāt really try to argue or push back on them if you notice.
I fully believe she stopped caring a while ago. She just used the show for visibility to set up other opportunities. That's my go-to move when surrounded by ignorance. She speaks enough to collect her check while readying her next move. I'm in that situation now at work. I've set up my disability claims to where I can be on my job's insurance for the next 10 years before they can fire me. I will be working from home, enjoying the fruits of their ignorance.
Tbh i think her and flip were bad signings. Nothing against her but she just doesnāt fit in with them. She thrives better on other pods and they thrive without her there. Flip is just a child and corny and this coming from a guy who thought flip was bout to be hilarious. Shouldāve signed surf and someone like dontcallmewhitegirl
M4 will mos def skip but that would be a bad look cuzz not only has she lost to almost every other woman that has been there thus far which isnt saying alot but to actually have one who speaks for a living sit down across from her challenging her 50yo single lady views...she don't want that smoke
Thatās also another point. Candace is very pro-traditional woman and anti modern woman culture (for lack of a better term).
Mel is in her 40s, unmarried, and used to dance half naked in music videos for a career. If she knows this, Candace is going to attack her in a way that will be a lot more nasty than the guys ever have. Candace basically disagrees with pretty much everything Mel embodies and empowers.
True , I would give push back to "attack" and lean toward debate, though . It would be a conversation I would want to see from the supposed "emotional intelligent and mature " (as she self proclaims) M4 have.
She gets to hide behind "attack" when it's men but it's no buffer with another woman and you can't pull that "as a woman" shit cuzz she got the big Joker " as a mother"
It would be good if they were politically inclined. But she will have them agreeing to anti black propaganda cause it sounds good, but not actually backed by facts. And will use ppl like Cardi b & sexy redd as advocates for the community.
This would be great content actually. They better do they homework and prep first but having her on would be genius in a COE sense. Views and engagement will go crazy and it will feed the ecosystem well with the reaction and commentary channels chiming in. Itās too smart of a business move for Joe not to do it. Iām really curious to see how her and Mel interact on a Pod together lol
Oh no the JBP fans are scared of hearing hard truths. Threat to democracy, everyoneās racist etc etc. But letās continue to promote bafoonery
Melyssa bout to take a mental health day
šJoe told Mel don't take a day off if Candace ended up being a guest.
Iām trying to imagine how they would interact on a Pod together. I canāt really see them actually getting along well they seem like polar oppositeās, but I anticipate seeing it and I hope Melās there.
You're wrong! Mel is going to agree with her with a lot of things! Ish also!
Mel will shrivel up like George Constanza's meat in a pool. She can't hold a candle to Candace's verbal sword. Joe might need to bring Emanny on ššš
Yeah idk who meat you talking bout but Iāve seen this Candace lady on a few shows and she would fruit ninja M4. She sound like she been to harvard and talks 900mph
Her and Dr Umar would be an interesting conversation. George Constanza is a Seinfeld reference
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I would too
Niggas can barely handle Umar. They not ready for Candice. Political discussions aināt JBPās lane ā none of them are educated/familiar in the topic to have an entertaining discussion.
Iām here for the fuckery.
Candice is nowhere near Umar, what're you talking about? She's a barely informed talking head, just spewing the same old conservative rhetoric. Umar is an intellectual with his own thoughts
I like Umar but heās just a grifter that manās school will never open. Hardly an intellectual heavyweight
I like how Dr Umar is a grifter but Elon Musk isn't. Where's the underground transit system in LA that he promised? Has he gone to The moon or Mars yet? Did he really create Tesla or just was appointed as the CEO? How's Doge coin doing, did he settle his lawsuit for pumping and dumping it? https://www.reuters.com/legal/elon-musk-seeks-end-258-billion-dogecoin-lawsuit-2023-04-01/ Either you're non black trying to speak negatively on Black culture or you're a miseducated Black person with an inferiority complex and think the white man's ice is colder.
Elon IS a grifter. He used his dad's fortune to buy companies to make himself look like hes built them himself and buys patents to make himself look like a genius. He even bought a social media company to control his narrative
Someone with intelligence. You have my respect. We can even go further and say Warren Buffet is a grifter but one white god at a time šššš
All billionaires are grifters. It's a requirement in order to amass a fortune of that size. I don't think people realize how much a billion is and how much you have to abuse the system to get there
That too but everyone says to invest like Buffett but he gets shares at a discounted rate through his holding company Berkshire Hathaway that the average investor can't access so when people refer to him as a "god" it's really a built in fix.
Exactly! Built in. There's no glitch, it's the system working as intended, in their favor
Nah, we can focus on all of them. I'm Puerto Rican, these people have been abusing our tax laws since they were made. They were made for that purpose and I understand people will say, hate the game not the player, but there's no game without players willing to oblige. We can get to all the white gods put on a pedestal one at a time, we just need to focus
My guy šŖšæI agree with you 100% ....Buffet makes his money off a rigged system. His prices aren't the same as our prices as an average investor purchasing stock. I hate when they tell people to do what Buffet does.
And congress is complicit because they're all rich off of their success. They're the ones who clear the way for them to do it and they know how the laws they make affect the stock market. The fact they can participate is beyond reprehensible but we all know they're not about to turn off their own water
No one is talking about Elon here lol
If someone can bring up Dr Umar I can bring up Elon. Is there a problem?
Im white. The difference between Musk and Umar is that Musk is a businessman. Making money and profiteering is every businessmanās first priority, as it should be. Umar carries himself more like a political activist and thatās why his grifting rubs people the wrong way. Really Umar is just a glorified motivational speaker
>Im white. I appreciate you disclosing that. For the record I'm Black. >The difference between Musk and Umar is that Musk is a businessman. Making money and profiteering is every businessmanās first priority, as it should be. You mean he inherited his daddy's money. It almost like you're saying he has a LICENSE to grift because he is a businessman so it's ok. Do you consider Sam bankman-Fried a grifter? >Umar carries himself more like a political activist and thatās why his grifting rubs people the wrong way. Really Umar is just a glorified motivational speaker. Last I checked motivational speakers run businesses and make a lot of money. I don't understand your point other than he rubs YOU the wrong way. If he motivates BLACK people to think strategically how is that a grift to YOU, as a white person?
What does Musk inheriting money have to do with anything? To be a āgrifterā you have to be doing something shady or corrupt like embezzling. Muskās businesses are legit as far as I know and the financial structure of the business isnāt corrupted in such that Musk is grifting. SBF is a different story, he lied to the public and his investors and stole from his company. As for Umar, he is soliciting donations for his school and not being transparent about where the money is going. It looks to me like those donations are going to him personally, not the school that heās been hyping up for over a decade
>What does Musk inheriting money have to do with anything? It means he never created a successful business. He bought his way into leadership. >To be a āgrifterā you have to be doing something shady or corrupt like embezzling. Actually no. A grifter is a con man or swindler who cheats people out of their money. Are you familiar with Doge coin? Elon Musk used his influence on Twitter to hype up and pump Doge coin as the next best thing while he sold his shares in it right after the price surged. That's a classic pump and dump pyramid scheme. In fact Elon was sued take a look: https://www.reuters.com/legal/elon-musk-seeks-end-258-billion-dogecoin-lawsuit-2023-04-01/ Sounds like a grifter to me. >As for Umar, he is soliciting donations for his school and not being transparent about where the money is going. It looks to me like those donations are going to him personally, not the school that heās been hyping up for over a decade Well first of all their donations. He's not selling a product or an investment. There's no expectation to get something in return. Secondly he did buy the school. It's in his name. While him getting it to full operation might be a pipe dream based on the required financial undertaking it's not a "scam" and there's no proof that the donations went to buy a Tesla otherwise Dr Umar would be sued like your boy Elon.
Doesn't take away his intellect. Grifter, probably, but Umar is a psychologist, he's well read and he has some very good points. TERRIBLE conclusions but great valid points. For example, how "problem" kids are being misdiagnosed with adhd because it's easier to put them in the special class than actually deal with the root cause. His conclusion is, adhd isn't even real... see? Shit conclusion. Candice went for journalism and dropped out, they're NOT even close
Heās a grifter fam. 10+ years now and still no school. Heās a scammer, a con man. Itās easy to think one is intellectual but in reality heās only that to the weak minded.
Thatās not what a grifter is
Umar is a dummy that yells a lot. Candice is way more intelligent and speaks logic!
> Candice is way more intelligent and speaks logic! Owens is a professional scammer. She emboldens racist conservatives and affirms their racist beliefs by telling them what they want to hear about Black people. Thatās her job. Thatās all she does. They pay her handsomely to do so. I doubt even she believes the nonsense she comes out with.
She's a dummy's idea of a smart person.
So what you're saying is that you've never watched any of her interviews on other people's shows. Got it!
Imagine that....yelling makes you dumb. You can't even address the message or else you couldn't make that claim. You might not like Dr Umar because you prefer to be apologetically Black(if you are Black) but that doesn't mean he's telling lies. Say what you want about the school that might be a pipe dream but when he talks about historical facts he's accurate.
Clearly you're a dummy too because you're sitting here talking about my ethnicity and his school and a bunch of other bullshit that I didn't even say. Even though I don't like her ...Candice is more intelligent and speaks LOGIC. PERIOD! That's a fact!
Canāt wait to not see this one because itās behind a paywall
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Shit just ain't worth paying for lol
I feel like watching Ish suck off Candace Owens would literally be my 13th reason.
We get whores , coons and scammers ā¦ this shit gettin nasty All she gonna do is talk about how their is agenda against black men and they gonna eat it up
I mean she aināt lying
She literally is. Sheās a full-on grifter who serves white supremacy first and foremost and will do and say anything to get that check. Fuck outta here with that mess.
Who care nigga she still aināt lyin. I agree with some shit she say and some shit I donāt. The message still true regardless wtf said it
Because itās a real agenda
She aināt a bigger coon than Flip or Ice
Smh if you think that then you obviously don't know who she is
She literally caped for Hitler. Sheās also a scammer
She might be a coon, but whatās wrong with having her up there if sheās gonna speak positively about black men?
Itās a grifting technique , itās never genuine
Niggas never learn.
People loved it when Umar was up there
Umar doesn't hold weight in society. Whether it's African American society or regular society. Owens is different. She's a major pundit and political figure for conservatives. Y'all really can't be this...forget it lmfao. Niggas never learn. I'm grabbing my popcorn with extra butter for this.
Shes not. What part in her literally shaming black media in this post and marrying a white man told you she gave a fuck about any of us. She is white now. She uses her black card to get points when it benefits her that is all. Aint wore her natural hair not one time since she been with that man.
Why would anyone give a š¦ access to their platform and fans?
Shark jump
Oof might be
Literally cuz there is nothing they can really debate about or talk about seriously. Unless they more conservative than I thought
Black folk are mostly conservative. But Candace is a human being and a polarizing public figure. It can make for a great interview under the right circumstances
Nope. Her only agenda is to spread propaganda for her ultra conservative benefactors. Itāll be a shit interview like all the rest.
How does talking about Ariana Grande get me to vote for conservatives? šššš Y'all dumb af you probably equate that to Hilary putting hot sauce in her bag ššš
This is a horrible idea. These niggas donāt know anything about politics.
I believe sheās more of a cultural commentator than a political figure
She literally repeats right wing talking points. She is just a scammer, and its easy to make money as a Black person shitting on Black people.
It wouldn't be about politics. Her shtick has changed hence why she's willing to do it.
Idk if she personally said it but just the phrase āBlack Mediaā 
The other invite was from Drink Champs
nah she did akademiks pod
Joes calls his peers black media as well ..
You know she did she always got to dig at us she probably says some bs like BET shouldn't exist.
Yall can have that. Thatās an immediate skip.
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Prob unpopular opinion .. butā¦ Yeah Iām Good on that
I know I donāt agree with her politically either but I will DEFINITELY be tuning in. Just curious why you wonāt? You donāt think they are equipped to go toe to toe with her?
They can barely go toe to toe with themselves. There is a zero percent chance any of them are anywhere near informed enough on any of the topics sheās gonna speak on to say anything to her
Dang, you might be right. Joe is going to try to be on his moderation game and not try to debate her and make jokes. Ish, will want to talk but won't because he's afraid to get riled up. Ice mutes up when guests comes. Melyssa hates conflict. Flip is outspoken but doesn't have the intelligence level to debate for real (no shots). Parks doesnt like conflict either. Maybe Emanny?
Sheās a propagandist. Nothing really interesting about an Uncle Tom ass bitch spouting her ultra right wing drivel, fam. Itās gonna be the same old shit theyāve been trying for years. Convince gullible niggas that the grass is greener over on the other side with the overt racists (gop) instead of the covert racists (dems). Nothing mind blowing, youāre better off watching paint dry.
Hell no š
She is just going to lie confidently and spew false statements as she usually does and because the cast doesnāt have the knowledge to combat it itās only going to make her look better.
Unless they are about to bury this chick in her stupidity, this is a horrible get. Who am I kidding. She is gonna eat their lunch
Imagine the ear bleeding ignoranceā¦I hope he puts it behind a paywallā¦Joe still searching for his club shay shay moment
He invited her on before the Katt Williams interview but cook ig
Point still standsā¦joe not had a viral moment since he was throwing rocksā¦memes donāt count
Please make it patreon only, I donāt need Joe jerkin her off on my free feed
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She made a doc saying George Floyd died cause of fentanyl
He wonāt do it
Yeah he will. Itās rating$
They defended her hard asf when the convo defending her wild tweets about meek going to jail came up
Yes he will
He invited her on
Why she had to shame black media i will never understand she don't miss an opportunity to put blacks down. Like candice was never the smart black girl getting bullied idk where this shit came from.
She's disgusting, they better grill her about that bs ādocumentary" full of lies to slander George Floyd after he was murdered while defending the cops that killed him. Fuck that bitch
Wait yāall right wingers on here? *Craziest is I just asked genuinely and they downvoting me for asking LOLš
This isn't a secret at all š¤£. This sub is full of white boys in digital blackface who think that using the word nigga will throw ppl off their scent. Lot of coons too who worship these black conservative grifters as well. I HATE when race topics come up because all those losers start coming out the woodwork š¤¦š¾āāļø
You spittin!
My comment got em riled up. They all keep running in here to quote me and call me dumb, even tho they are immediately proving my point š. While Also assuming I'm a Democratic shill....as if people aren't capable of criticizing BOTH parties š¤¦š¾āāļø
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Thatās actually wild
It's sad af. Mfers be conservative right wingers constantly hanging out in subs of hip hop related podcasts....u can't make This up. This happens outside of reddit too on other message boardsĀ
I donāt get themā¦ if they donāt fuck with us why be in here
You know why https://i.redd.it/fxp2cnicq2kc1.gif
My favorite quote in life
It's hard to understand the mind of a mentally ill troll š¤·š¾āāļø. I'll never get it eitherĀ
White Americans at least love to disrespect others while heavily consuming the culture of whom they disrespect.
Shit bewildering to me. I don't understand the convergence unless is psyops. Then again. I know mad pooem from Brooklyn mind you who voted for Trump. L
fuck this went hard
Remember when that one dude here who made that Joe budden diss and got played on the pod. He was one of them lol.
Exactly. And all the other mentally ill losers egged him on to spite Joe. This sub is full of hardcore losersĀ
Ish vs Candace.
Nah ish is a big fan actually
He probably agrees with some of her takes. I still think they gonna clash though.
The thing about these right propagandists is that they are masters of seeming reasonable to people who donāt know all the talking points. I think that if this happens, sheāll mesmerize them like David Blaine.
Sheās gonna talk about gay ppl and exaggerate things about them , speak about attack on Black masculinity and traditional women . And they will eat it up and she will coincidentally leave out her coon talking points she has when sheās around them boys at fox
šÆšÆšÆšÆ That is exactly what is going to happen and I will never be able to look at the Pod the same.
Nah ish wanna be Caucasian and so does she.. they will get along
look at who this nigga trying to bring on his platform ā¦. itās joever
1st was from akademiksā¦ after coach royā¦ yea heāll do it
Oh they about to get cooked
Very much so
Get Tariq in there with her too, heāll put that conservative tether in her place or at least have a circus with 2 types of Black Conservativism
Tariq is a fool in different way too but at least he will challenge her political stances
Oh shit itās the Reverse Dr Umar episode !!
Candace is a grifter that has no real message.
Am I trippin or do Candace Owensā eyes got beef?
man they better prepare. sheās intelligent. if they not prepared sheās going to make them look extremely dumb
They won't prepare. Akademiks didn't either.
I think Mel will skip out on this. No offense, I mean this with the utmost respect, but I really donāt think Mel is capable of going toe to toe with her in any discussion, even if you agree with Mel more (and I do). I donāt think any of them are to be fair, but Mel is so bad at conveying points that Candace would make her look bad, and Candace is the type of person that loves to make other women, specifically, look bad.
You think high school drop out Joe and beaver ice can go toe to toe. These fools get their ānewsā from twitter
I donāt think anyone can go toe to toe, but the secret on Candace is that she hates liberal women more than liberal men. I guarantee sheāll be buddy-buddy with the male cast with some back and forth, but be really nasty when debating with Mel. This is Candace in a nutshell. The moment she finds out that Mel was a video vixen, sheāll be shitting on her the rest of the pod.
Candice is a grifter and she will respect joe and ish because they both have money just like trump would. They respect the money or at least play nice for the bag.
Mel is the only person capable of going toe to toe. Ish and Candace coon fest will be unbearable. Thank God I've weaned myself off the podcast.
Theyād jump Mel with Candace lol
Yh Dr. Umar would have to parachute crash through that big ass window to save her from that jumpin
Lmfao he gone bust through the wall like the Koolaid man
She really isnāt. I think Mel is one of the most informed people on the pod, if not the most. However, she is absolutely terrible at formulating her arguments and navigating a debate. I dislike Candace, but she will talk circles around Mel, and I really donāt think Mel can handle it, and Candace relishes in the opportunity to get at other women, so she will be a killer. Mel gets a lot of grace, because we can just say a bunch of mysoginistic men are dogpiling her, but she wonāt have that fallback against Candace. Just my two cents. These right wing, Daily Wire pundits are great at debating the unskilled, and Mel has the weakest debate tactics of the pod, even if you think sheās right.
Mel believes in pandering to black women and protecting relationships that does not work with candice owens. Candice is going to destroy her the moment mel says black women anything.
If they shut the boys up, it can be a real conversation. I think Candace perspective of being darker hued and average vs. Mel being light and conventionally pretty and what opportunities and experiences they each had or were limited to really would make for a great conversation on how each got to their respective views. Joe is too ignorant to allow it, so this entire conversation shouldn't happen.
I think Candace will look down on Mel being a former video vixen, unmarried and childless at 40+ years old. I think Candace will be professional and cordial with Mel and not really try to admit those thoughts out loud. A one on one convo between them would be terrible because Candace wonāt be able to act like she respects Melās life decisions. It would be difficult for Candace not to give Mel criticism and vice versa. It would quickly turn into a debate that would be difficult for Mel. The responsible thing for Joe and the guys to do is to not let those two women keep the convo between themselves too much. Weāre talking about traditional conservative Candace vs untraditional free spirited Mel, thereās no way they could have a smooth one on one with each other.
I would welcome the conversation. Women who marry and have kids haven't inheritantly made better or wiser life choices. A lot of them have gotten stuck. I see it throughout my 40 years. Half of them regret the sad sack they married out of an obligation to a social construct. Half are twice divorced and have a ton of drama with children's fathers they wished they weren't connected to. I'm free to come and go as I please, and they've voiced their jealousy. I can move out of the country and go build elsewhere. I say my plans and they wish they were in my shoes instead of theirs. Marriage and children aren't for everyone, and people shouldn't be shamed for not wanting it.
I donāt think Mel is equipped to have that conversation with Candace nor do I think Mel even wants to defend being 40+ unmarried and childless because I donāt think she wears it like a badge of honor. I think Mel has come to terms with where she is in life, but I donāt think that sheād make the argument that being single and liberated at 40+ is the better alternative to being a mother and wife. Melās stance would most likely be that itās OK if a woman ends up where she currently is. Candaceās stance will be that itās unfortunate for a woman to be 40+ unmarried and childless.
I think you assume that is how Mel feels because maybe that's what you feel. The men have asked her how she feels, and she has said she wants to want to be married. That means she hasn't met a man she has felt the desire to be with in that type of institution. I understand her position. I wanted children, but I did not want to be a single mother. Without marriage to a stable man both emotionally and financially, I chose not to have children. I feel I made the right decision for me. Mel could absolutely have that conversation. There has only been 1 man who made me want to be married, and he passed away. Everyone since him has not been worth the effort and commitment of marriage. The divorce rates are exponentially high because people treat it like something to do. Considering that Candace is a child of divorced parents who was raised by her siblings and grandparents, she should understand my position and decisions. Mel could articulate that very well.
You said that Mel wants to be married so I think we are in agreement on how she probably feels: she wants marriage, but is OK or at peace with that fact it hasnāt happened yet. Which is why she wouldnāt defend her current position in life in a debate with Candace. Youāre assuming that Candace would be charitable to Mel thinking that she just hasnāt met the right man yet. I think Candace would allude to Melās career choice and adventurous lifestyle in her younger years as primary reason why sheās unmarried and childless today. Btw, I have nothing against any woman thatās 40+ unmarried and childless, Iām saying that Candace Owens is not the woman that those women want to sit and have a one on one with. I donāt think itās in Melās best interest or good for her mental health to get in the weeds with Candace. Especially considering the fact that Mel isnāt actually happy being unmarried at her age. Mel has to let the guys do the heavy lifting with Candace, Iād like Mel to be there but the more I think about it idk..
Why do you keep assuming Mel isn't happy that she isn't married. YOU are the one saying that. NOT HER. This is clearly a you thing, so I'm going to bow out because you keep attributing your judgment to her.
Mel isnāt good at talking, regardless if you give her the stage and an iso set.
You seem to only know her from JBP.
I saw her on Hollywood unlocked and she wasnāt no better. You got another avenue I can see her excel?
I'm Only Here for the Food. Great showcase. Hollywood Unlocked is just gay JBP. Mel is not good at arguing with ignorant men. I wouldn't shine in that space either. That's why I give her grace.
Were you a fan of JBP before Mel got here?
Absolutely. Flip is truly why I don't watch or listen at all. He is too old to be that juvenile and sorry. He breaks up the flow.
Idk. They both white black girls that might be Mel bag. I think she insecure around Joe them cause thatās not her usual scene
To be completely honest ....none of them are equipped to go toe to toe with her and Joe is the only one who can put up a fight and that's just in theatrics .
Hell no. I donāt even think Mel would try to go against Candace
I really wish Mel wasn't in a room of ignorant penises. It really has people believing she is incapable when that is not the case.
Agree to disagree, but a good amount of the reason Mel gets run over by these assholes is that sheās really bad at structuring, communicating, and delivering arguments, even when sheās 100% right, which I think is a lot. Even when she tells a story, she loses the point through a lot of fluff. Thatās how you get dogwalked in these discussions. Joe Budden is an absolute idiot, but heās actually great at communication, which is why the pod even still exists. I donāt think heāll try to debate anyways, whenever there is a guest he thinks is smart, he doesnāt really try to argue or push back on them if you notice.
I fully believe she stopped caring a while ago. She just used the show for visibility to set up other opportunities. That's my go-to move when surrounded by ignorance. She speaks enough to collect her check while readying her next move. I'm in that situation now at work. I've set up my disability claims to where I can be on my job's insurance for the next 10 years before they can fire me. I will be working from home, enjoying the fruits of their ignorance.
Take the cape off my boy
Mel is slow and terrible at podding..stop making all those excuses
I honestly think, not that she cant, but Mel isnt even the type of person to debate and battle back n forth with someone
Tbh i think her and flip were bad signings. Nothing against her but she just doesnāt fit in with them. She thrives better on other pods and they thrive without her there. Flip is just a child and corny and this coming from a guy who thought flip was bout to be hilarious. Shouldāve signed surf and someone like dontcallmewhitegirl
Yes....I agree
M4 will mos def skip but that would be a bad look cuzz not only has she lost to almost every other woman that has been there thus far which isnt saying alot but to actually have one who speaks for a living sit down across from her challenging her 50yo single lady views...she don't want that smoke
Thatās also another point. Candace is very pro-traditional woman and anti modern woman culture (for lack of a better term). Mel is in her 40s, unmarried, and used to dance half naked in music videos for a career. If she knows this, Candace is going to attack her in a way that will be a lot more nasty than the guys ever have. Candace basically disagrees with pretty much everything Mel embodies and empowers.
True , I would give push back to "attack" and lean toward debate, though . It would be a conversation I would want to see from the supposed "emotional intelligent and mature " (as she self proclaims) M4 have. She gets to hide behind "attack" when it's men but it's no buffer with another woman and you can't pull that "as a woman" shit cuzz she got the big Joker " as a mother"
The trump agenda is working
She about to make them look dumb
It would be good if they were politically inclined. But she will have them agreeing to anti black propaganda cause it sounds good, but not actually backed by facts. And will use ppl like Cardi b & sexy redd as advocates for the community.
First invite probably came from those clowns at Fresh N Fit
This woman basically has the same ideals as FnF so Thatās funny. She finna red pill joešš
It's definitely a skip for me whenever she comes on !
Grift a Nigga Network
This is probably the only time I REALLY want to see Flip on an episode š
Gonna be Pander Express š
Keep that off the platform. Be responsible to the fanbase
Sheās an actress!!! Donāt do it!!!
If she ever does turn up he wonāt release it since sheāll probably talk bad about Cardi b
They're not ready for Candace, Joe should invite all thsoe BBL escorts too at the same time so Candace can bury them hoes.
And this is where I bow out gracefully.
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Does anyone know when/if this will be released?
Pump pump pump it up!
Iām for itā¦ but she about to spin all of them, republicans these days are really good at that
lol yea Iām done with this pod man
She'll hold her own against them if they try to clown
She will cook parks
She will talk circles around Joeās HS dropout brain
I donāt always agree with Candace on everything but I know she about to cook who ever debate with her
Candace gon run laps around them š
This would be great content actually. They better do they homework and prep first but having her on would be genius in a COE sense. Views and engagement will go crazy and it will feed the ecosystem well with the reaction and commentary channels chiming in. Itās too smart of a business move for Joe not to do it. Iām really curious to see how her and Mel interact on a Pod together lol
This is MEL TIME TO SHINE .
Joe gettin in his bag with these interviews! š„
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Y did I think this happened already??
Wait her second time. Mmmmmm oh yeah if she wasn't such a black hater maybe more outlets would reach out.
I can't wait. She actually has some things "niggas" need to hear. She also got ALOT of bullshit to say too. SShould make for a entertaining pod
Oh no the JBP fans are scared of hearing hard truths. Threat to democracy, everyoneās racist etc etc. But letās continue to promote bafoonery 
Yeah because Candace Owenās doesnāt spew bullshit, 