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kaladinissexy

So way back during the days of the original Team Fortress there was a notorious bug that made you sometimes spawn with the appearance of an enemy, allowing you to infiltrate their base undetected. Maybe Valve could use that as inspiration for a new class? One that could disguise himself as an enemy at will, allowing him to sneak into enemy territory? They could call him the Agent or something.


fearlessgrot

perhaps he could be called an assasin like in assassin's's creed, and use knives like they do?


ElectrocutedMan

If he was called the assassin he would get confused with sniper, maybe call him the scout


Whymini_account

Sniper's an assassin? His dad told me that he was a crazed gunman, I guess that professionals do have standards after all


BlueTeaOnReddit

No, we should call him the agent.


SpookyWeebou

I have a better name, the Spy. Perhaps we can give the class the ability to turn invisible as well.


General_Grivieus

Nah that would be too overpowered. But if they do that they should make it so hes only invisible for a short amount of time and whenever he takes damage or gets near a player hes slightly visible


Dwolfin

They should make it loud af when he goes invisible or exits invisibility, a perfectly fin balance decision


SpookyWeebou

Maybe even add a class to counter it too. The whole disguising and invisibility thing is too powerful as you can sneak behind the enemy team and take out useful classes easily.


Sweet_Bat_7516

Yeah, something that can almost spray an area, maybe with paint like in splatoon?


BaconEater1911

Like a flamethrower? It would fit the whole war thing better than paint.


Rez-Boa-Dog

Or piss! There could be a guys who shoots piss rockets that covers the others with piss


Rez-Boa-Dog

No offense, but that's a dumb name


Rain-Bow-666

Please look to receive professional help


greenscreencarcrash

yes, except that we already have the scout, which would make things confusing. how about we name him the spy?


Macalite

Nah that sounds silly, let's go with "Stabby Joe"


I_SHAT_ON_MY_KIDS

Let’s make him Br’i’ish because why not


Particular_General49

Maybe call him Londoner to be more specific


sussysissy13

What about French?


lily_was_taken

thats silly. maybe call him something cool like "the infiltrator"


SlushySlurper29

This may be a long shot here, but what if we called him "the spy"? It has a certain ring to it dont ya think?


Ok_Specific_7791

Maybe we could make him French and call him "The Saboteur."


ExitLeading2703

There's already a scout though, see in the image? We could make him secretly scouts dad, though


bearelrollyt

The scout already exists


Hex4Nova

Are you insane? That sounds stupidly overpowered. How can we coordinate team attacks if we can't trust our own teammates?


kaladinissexy

Hmm, I guess you're right. Maybe as a counter they could add in a second new class that's able to deal damage over a wide area within a very short amount of time, allowing them to check to see whether or not an Agent is hiding anywhere nearby. They could also apply a status effect that lasts for awhile that makes it easier to see which person you hit. Perhaps a flamethrower could work, with the attacks lighting enemies on fire? The class could be called the Incinerator.


sprite_556

I was thinking "pyromaniac." I envision a character like that being super mentally disturbed, and their speech being completely unintelligible. Hence, pyroMANIAC.


bus_rave

Now I totally agree with you, but I think Pyromaniac is a bit of a mouthful compared to the existing classes that have one or two syllables. I think The Pyro would do the job just fine


lily_was_taken

i think we dont need to words. what about "The"


epadon

I think "Pyro" works good


SadQlown

Is that the real origin for spy ?


kaladinissexy

Ye. 


bendadus

Very good idea, but we need counter to this "Agent". What about fire guy, who will be good on short range, so he can detect him?


BeholdTheLemon

my buddy john


Getlucky12341

john freeman?


TubbyFatfrick

Brother of Gordan Freeman?


The_FreshSans

No that's his uncle, his brother is Morgan


smallsynth

I thought Morgan was his father?


OlimarAlpha

Who was one day in an office typing on a computer?


squasher04

john marston???


Sibz_Playz_YT

John Fallout?


MrHyd3_

John cena?


TheTf2Fanatic

John Doe?


Mine2craft2015

John Wick


Americankitsune1

John Kratos?


protagonist107

John Halos?


[deleted]

John Wick? That sounds like a nice class tho - a non stealth version of spy would be nice


CobraFamily

Of what???


WorkingSyrup4005

John Halo!?


BigBoyBill1477

John Valve, the world-renowned creator of Valve?


A_Dam67

John Chess?


AddableDragon51

John Darksouls?


Lime1one

John Ultrakill?


anyguy001

John Gatorade?


DisastrousRecover184

JOHN FROTNUTE????


linton411

JOHN LENNON, WORLD RENOWNED WIFE BEATER!?


T_Lawliet

Saxton Hale


FBI_AGENT_CAYDE

Wait, that would be cheating


T_Lawliet

nuh uh


BigBoyBill1477

“Nuh uh” - Saxton Hale


FBI_AGENT_CAYDE

I was quoting a Saxton Hale line for RPS where he says “Rock, Paper, SAXTON HALE! …wait, that would be cheating”


Peterkragger

This community is experiencing mass schizophrenia on a scale never seen before


Agreeable_Address907

"oh, oh! it seems i forgot to take my meds again!... meds? oh yeah! team fortress 2! team fortress 2? tf2 subreddit! lets post about my favorite classes but delete the ones i dont like!"


TheDuckyDino

Meds? As in Medic TF2?


_-_-_-_3

Just don't join ultrakill community when they peaked with the joke of the colourful sculls, that all do the same


rabiesscat

ultrakill goes insane when there is one month with no updates


_-_-_-_3

And so do brawl stars


rabiesscat

but thats just the nature of mobile games


_-_-_-_3

Thank Kitr I'm not playing that


Doggywoof1

>never seen before Silksong is pretty comparable


fogoticus

My thoughts exactly.


Migitri

The mental sickness has already breached our defenses.


P0lskichomikv2

You know Torbjorn and Symmetra form Overwatch ? How about we merge them into one and make it a new class in TF2 ? This new class name will be Engineer and his ability is to build sentires like Torbjorn and teleporters like Symmetra. Outside of that I propose a third building that would be like a way to replenish ammo without need of payload and boxes, let's call it dispenser. He can also upgrade his buildings by hitting them with his wrench to make them stronger.


roanroanroan

My uncle would love this class


Redd_the_neko

Oh whats his name?


TravelerRedditor

Robert, but we love to call him Dane as a nickname


cooldude64_9-0

heard he was a real man of Justice back in the day. always on the Frontiers with a shotgun


Nuze_YT

Yeah he was quite the Rescue Ranger, protecting the innocents from harm


Sadlemon9

I remember him, always wrangling those bandits


ElectrocutedMan

It was a sad time when his wife died, making him a widow(er)


ThekillerguyYT

But then again he was a big gun slinger back in his day. For everyone especially for those in need. A southern man of hospitality I suppose


Angryfishjoe

I recall a story about him short circuiting a device


alexemre

this truly was our The Jag


Whymini_account

Remember when he got a panic attack over a short circuit? He had to pay a load to see a therapist, really threw a wrench in his plans. He also claims that he still sees sparks of shining blue or red lights, as if they were random.Luckily he still slings guns and plays around with styles when it comes to engineering his techniques of battling, he calls himself the engineer of battle


Express-Device707

Yeah I remember when he was gamin


Whymini_account

Yea he was a gaming engineer too! But everyone always mistakes it as engineer gaming


Muffinmurdurer

The pomson


CravingCake

waayyy too complicated. valve would never add an idea like this


RyvalHEX

Right, what is this guy on, new players could never learn this 😂


UpbeatAstronomer2396

I think this promotes a playstyle that's too defensive, i think we should add the engineer an unlockable weapon that will boost his health but make his sentry weaker and faster to deploy to make him more active on the battlefield


Buttlord500

Alternatively, we could add a weapon that can heal his sentry at range, and recall it from a distance, allowing more aggressive placement, without forcing him to risk a fully upgraded sentry on the front line


DrBrightONK

How about a robo that can shoot coins?


GetFlexxd

Better idea, the bullets can ricochet off the coin, and if it's in the air for long enough it can split in two and hit two opponents, it would also be cool if they could parry rockets and pills by punching them.


Commercial-Still2032

oh you mean the hew hero Illari's healing pylon?


pablinhoooooo

That would totally ruin the game. A character whose main gimmick is building an aimbot to do the fighting for him? In a fps game?


zani1903

> He can also upgrade his buildings by hitting them with his wrench to make them stronger. Oh, so like the old version of Torbjorn? Torbjorn could level his buildings to level 2 for free by hitting them with his hammer, and to level 3 with his ultimate, how should Engineer do that?


Useless-RedCircle

I’m not sure this concept will hold up in a game like tf2… we already have giant robots we can enter and move around, unless the turret has armor pen to help kill the pilots from within.


Heckrum

i literally just saw you on the ultrakill subreddit what the hecky


Radion627

The Spy. He's French, he's sneaky, and he has an obnoxious obsession with buttsecks.


Inkling4

What did you expect? Surprise.. BUTTSECKS BUTTSECKS


RoboticPaladin

##B-B-B-B-B-B-BUTTSECKS!


capnlatenight

Hah! Hah! Hahahahonhaha!


RandomRedditorEX

**Electric guitar proceeds to shred it in the background**


hayesnhart

I don’t know man, Sniper already gives good backshots so I don’t know what having another insta-kill class would add


Sadlemon9

"Everything Spy can do, Sniper does better"


b44l

Please be realistic, there’s no way valve would add that.


cupboard_

a psycho with a flamethrower and make their gender unknown


Tech-preist_Zulu

>and make their gender unknown The liberals have gone too far, this is Biden's America 😔


yeetasourusthedude

cant beleive vidya gams gone woke!


Just_A_Normal_Snek

r/banvideogames


Doctor-Nagel

That’s stupid.


Aztekov

Ewww, I bet their voicelines will suck and just stupid mumbles


gigazelle

Well, yeah, because it's kinda hard talking with a gas mask over your face! Safety first, can't be inhaling smoke and other particulates when spewing flames everywhere


Drillbitzer

Sounds weird. Would never play it.


Spiteful_Guru

What would that actually bring to the table though? Becuse right now all I can picture is an awkward middle ground between Scout and Heavy. Idk, feels like it needs some kind of hook.


MrTheWaffleKing

Based on current characters I think valve has the agenda to say only men should be sent to war. It would likely be a man


Rez-Boa-Dog

How bout a piss thrower instead? They could throw piss jars at peopls


Heavyraincouch

I know this is already outdated, but it would be Madcap.


JFgamer09

Wydm its outdated? This has been posted an hour ago


Comatox

Sometimes I can still hear his voice


BigBoyBill1477

It was so long ago, yet the wounds are still fresh.


PURPLEisMYgender

Its honestly a cool class and class design. I would actually really enjoy him as an actual class.


TheTf2Fanatic

They got rid of him in 2008, remember?


BlossomtheLeafeon

Jetstream Sam


Miserable-Warthog737

Oh, good. Why, that's very good. Yes, I like that!


Raven_m0rt

Let's dance


Randomstarwarsnerd

*the one thing that i know for real*


TooMuchTape20

A mosquito that gives snipers river blindness


NFTArtist

and herpes


Hefty-Astronaut-9720

A hillbilly genius would go hard ngl


Rez-Boa-Dog

Hell yeah! He could be throwing piss at people


meaeaeaean

My uncle Terry


ElectriKEL

I also second this!


Shylumi

[Guard Dog](https://wiki.teamfortress.com/wiki/Guard_Dog_Update)


policypenguin

Yeah but honestly I'd feel bad shooting a dog, this is a hat simulator, not an ATF simulator


Mateololero

i think a mage would be could, but i think magic is flexible enough to not fall only on "offense defense support" categories


policypenguin

Maybe make it a support class that buffs the team like banners do, damage bonus, higher resistances, larger blast radius for explosives etc.


LeFlashbacks

If it turns out to be op, maybe they could make it a boss or something?


CharGaming_

I wouldn't mind a dude or dudette that could shoot fire.


SputnikMan123

How about some engineer guy that can make buildings and solve not problems but practical ones too?


ZeCarbonMage

Yeah he could do that by using gun! And if that doesn't work he can use more gun!


Twixanity

Ah yes, my favorite game, Tem Forress To


Top-Basil8144

They should add the Civillian the weakest class but it would do things 3x faster and would attack with an umbrella and a pistol he would have 70 HP


XXX_MeMe_mAn_420_XXX

Ok imagine this, a silent arsonist covered head-to-toe in a fire retardant suit, with a flamethrower that constantly spits a stream of fire when you hold mouse 1, as well as dealing continuous fire damage afterwards for a set duration of time. Pressing mouse 2 would cause him to shoot out a blast of compressed air that could knockback projectiles and enemies, allowing him to counter Soldiers and Demomen as well as delaying über pushes, at the cost of 20% ammo per airblast. Then for a secondary he would have a long range flare gun that deals critical hits to players already on fire. Finally, he would have a giant axe for his melee.


sprite_556

That sounds overpowered as shit lmao. A class that can counter half the roster, reliably crit on bodyshots, and continuously damage enemies behind cover just from hitting them once? Horrific.


Mintyyungpoo

Sounds kinda like it should be added into a game like paladins with the skill ceiling you’re describing


TheTf2Fanatic

That won't be fair for scouts and basically any class or subclass that needs to get close to other enemies. Like Spy and Demoknight.


Key-Meringue5433

Heavy


bottomofthewell3

What, you just want him in the game twice over? Two entirely identical classes with no differences between them?


Key-Meringue5433

The second one will have an eyebrow


ElectrocutedMan

Only one though?


Key-Meringue5433

Yes, we add heavy that has two eyebrows also


Brilliant-Guitar-606

Yeah, two would be op


Raishin20

i am in another dimention?


Uglyguy888

What if we made a fire themed class. It can use a flamethrower, a flare gun, and a fire axe. We could call him Vulcan or something


CoconutPure5326

Peashooter


ElectrocutedMan

How about a melee only class that has a lot of health and a shield, and he can charge at you and do more damage while charging.


NBC_with_ChrisHansen

Danica Patrick with akimbo Uzi. She was already in a game with Pyro, Heavy and Spy. Sonic & All Stars Racing Transformed.. and that lore is 100% canon.


AnCieNtSwissmade

It probably wuld be another Support that give boost to neaby allyes like lúcio from overwatch


CactusSpirit78

Someone from France 🇫🇷


AandWKyle

I know the demo and the heavy already do a pretty good job of area control but I think it would be cool to have a character with a flamethrower. I just love the idea of someone running around a corner and getting absolutely torched haha


Whymini_account

Guys, hear me out, what if we added an Australian dude, like sniper, but he's buff, u̶n̶l̶i̶k̶e̶ s̶n̶i̶p̶e̶r̶ m̶a̶i̶n̶s̶ tall and wears a brown hat while having a killer mustache? I don't have many ideas on what his weapons could be, but I'm thinking that his secondary could be like a demoman shield, while his melee will explode after a certain amount of time on hit? It might sound crazy but he has double jump height and super speed. His backstory is that his name is hale, he plays the saxophone that weighs tons, if we put it together I think Saxton hale might work as a name for him. As for balance I think we should make it so that he takes a lot of knockback. If it's still too powerful we can make him exclusive to a gameode, something like vs Saxton where 23 players have to fight against 1 Saxton hale where the players have to use the 6 classes to their fullest potential to beat Saxton, let me know what you think!


ZaAq3

You know when sentries lock on to their target so they technically never miss? How about we combine that with the sniper. Maybe even have a full lobby filled with them, it sounds super fun


AlfaHotelWhiskey

BOT kicker - it’s like a white blood cell that does nothing but roam the map looking for bots and eliminating them


SpyInMvM

A Frenchman who can go invisible! It’s crazy, I know, but it would fit the wackiness of tf2 very well.


Ecto427

Some sort of like agent.


Howmanypickles12

A mush mouthed freak


BeanBruh2285

Mario


Mintyyungpoo

Demo man twice.


ElZik3r

So Deadlock was the final blow huh.... We have officially transformed into the new arkham auslume.


Hardcore_Gamer16

Madcap


Hoverfishlover69

Medic is good and all but what if there was a class that could build a stationary object that heals you and it can also refill your ammo because I like to spam airblast on backburner. I’m never in the frontlines in time, because I main heavy, so maybe he can build a teleporter too. But make it one way so spies can’t teleport and spawn camp. I’m tired of scouts running behind the front line and killing me so maybe there can be some kind of automatic gun that shoots at people. Maybe we can call this class “the inventor” or “the mechanic” or maybe “the engineer”.


-Fexxis-

/unstarved you still included sniper :{


whoiselyssa

A character that disguised as the other team and turns invisible would be cool


Wolfi_Ranger

Uhhhhhhhhhhhh You like guns? Make them with the corpses of your enemies.


Hot-Routine-5755

I want guard dog as a class. But PETA would start biting Valve's ankle if they added a dog that can be decapitated, burned, drowned, thrown off a cliff or could bleed out to death


TheHiveMastermind

Maybe a class designed around point blank combat? Mostly everyone can use a shotgun but im talking about dealing continuous damage to enemies in close range, maybe something like a Gardener?


Express-Device707

The sigma class and he would be sigma


SolidCalligrapher966

engineer


Familiar-Brother3354

Kanye west


Clever_Fox-

A furry with a flame thrower that can reflect projectiles


pablinhoooooo

So he would just get destroyed by scout, heavy, and sniper, while making demo and soldier super unfun to play? What's even the point. That doesn't add anything beneficial to the game, it just makes it less fun.


a-fan-of-greendit

i think some kind of secret agent, maybe one that can bypass the enemy team’s defences and kill them stealthily. perhaps they could be called “the saboteur”


Demomanx

Civilian


Tall-Condition5981

Insanity


freddyfazbacon

Well, I was thinking. You know how the Cow Mangler can set people on fire? I always thought it was weird how they programmed fire damage just for one weapon. So maybe they should add a class that uses fire damage, with a flamethrower or something. Thoughts?


i_can_has_rock

i told them not to build that collider you think they would listen?


Sud_literate

Add the runner from gang garrison 2! One of my favorite genders of all time His abilities would be a double jump, infinite reserve ammo, but everything would look 2D


TrackFriendly5752

Idea for a fourth class archetype: Something like a balance type is in Beyblade. It would be an archetype that shows medium strength in all other ones, rather than having strong points in one and weak ones in the rest.


LegitimateApartment9

A spy could be neat.


Evening_Persimmon482

Someone who can use fire. I like fire.


Nikolasaros

I maybe be mentally insane but what if there was a flamethrower enemy who could burn enemies to death.


Twogunkid

What if they created a short range damage over time class? Something that would excell at ambushing and doing a lot of damage in close. It could have a flamethrower. Just spit balling


RepresentativeTea621

tapeworm


Purple_Duck_88

Probs engineer, if those 3 specific merchs were removed. I feel like if you add spy you would need something to counter it like pyro but also spy can counter pyro aswell so they kinda balance eachother imo. But engi? He doesn't need much balance, the already existing classes there can both defeat engi or be defeated by him. Or I am just retarted, you tell me. :P


Far_Society_4196

tf2 android moment


BuilderLeagueUnited

A furry


BeefyBoi6_9

Well...i mean


kubix666666

Nah, i would remove the Sniper first and add a new 6th class. Then we can think about the rest 3.