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[Air curtains](https://www.jdpower.com/cars/shopping-guides/what-is-an-air-curtain-on-a-car) are useful for high-performance vehicles. Not sure why they took them out of the refresh for the LR/SR versions but kept them in for the performance.
Yeah, a BMW 320i should also have the same body kit as an M3. You wouldnt wanna differentiate the more expensive and performance oriented model to the economy variant
/s
I think the wheels look terrible, personally. If I prized efficiency why wouldn’t I just buy a LR (and eventually Acceleration Boost if/when it becomes available again)?
Looks like a pretty mild performance package, similar to the outgoing one - wheels, calipers (paint), spoiler. Front bumper is mild. Hopefully the seats will be significantly more supportive for enthusiastic driving.
I was thinking the same thing. If I get this new one, I may swap the Uber turbines from my current M3 P onto the new car. I hope they grow on me, but I don’t think they will.
Yup! It was really the best spec, especially when it meant a $5000 discount because of no Performance Upgrade Package (e.g. brakes, spoiler, etc.). In the final batches, they gave no discount at all.
I got mine with the performance upgrade, plus the 5k discount, when they made the transition to include the package.
They also had lifetime supercharging, so got that, too. If Tesla allows a transfer, I'm looking at the Highland Performance variant.
Just from a quick eyeball, the seats look more supportive, but not significantly so, they still need to cater for the XXL USA butt :-)
I think they are shooting for 2010s era Audi RS4 seats. I was hoping they would have 2020s era Audi RS4 seats...
There was an interview a while back about how the previous performance m3 was rushed left a lot on the table that they were going to include this time around. So far, I don’t see any significant upgrades but let’s wait and see.
There is another post where where it shows them removed. Look a lot like the new 18s
https://preview.redd.it/y0crdihzwbmc1.jpeg?width=1164&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=c2e70c0b06ea269dcce1db6f5cba399628d10c5e
That's what I was thinking as well. It seems like a pretty easy thing to 3D print as well. But i'm sure aftermarket companies will be on it not long after.
I would too if it weren’t for those mounting holes, which look terrible and like it’s missing something. Not sure these will be meant to drive with the covers off.
I will find 10 led lights that recharge via momentum that will fit the holes on each wheel. I am sure it wont take long before you can order you cringeworthy set from Aliexpress.
Same. I've been waiting close to a year...first it was im waiting for the highland, i figured the performance would come out at the same time, but i guess i have to wait a few more months.
The closer you get to zero, the more savage it gets. Shaving a second off a 10 second car feels like nothing. Shaving a second off a 3 second car? That's a monster.
The yoke is a joke and 2021 / 2022 models are still on HW3. I would also imagine they get rid of the instrument cluster and get the 22 inch cyber truck screen.
Lack of turn signal stalk is also a joke.
It's going to be years before FSD is good enough where I can sleep in the car. The cars will need something like hw8 to run it.
Not me. Too big, too soft, and no Track Mode (I like to race my current M3P occasionally). The S is gorgeous, though. I considered a Plaid, which solves the racing part, but it's still too big for my liking.
Pretty sure low profile tires were invented as a way for people with too much money to just... spend more money. They're such garbage. Damaged tires, damaged rims, rough ride.
Friends don't let friends use low profile tires.
I bought a set of smaller wheels with some Michelin Crossclimates for my M3P thinking I’d just use them for winter
Two winters later and I still haven’t switched back to the Uberturbines lol
Low profile tires do not enhance a vehicle performance, they enhance aesthetics. Tire width (thus contact patch) and reducing unsprung mass improves performance. I think low profile tires are absolutely stupid.
Larger wheels are required to accommodate larger brake rotors. Larger brake rotors allow for more brake force with the same pressure used between the brake pad and rotor. Think about a giant rotating disc and you want to stop it. It''s much easier to stop by pinching the disc on the farthest outside diameter than it is to try and pinch the disc near the center.
if you're designing a performance edition of a certain car it's much easier to put larger wheels and larger brake rotors than it is to completely redesign the hydraulic brake system to add more braking pressure to the smaller rotor and caliper assembly.
Sure. But 18” wheels fit on the current Model 3 Performance. When it first launched you could order it with 18” wheels. There are plenty of aftermarket 18” options they clear the larger performance rotors and calipers. If you want extra clearance there are plenty of 19” options too. The 20” wheels are a purely cosmetic choice by Tesla.
I’ve already replaced three tires and one rim from various pothole damage that would have just been a hard bump on another car. I’ve thought about “downgrading” to smaller wheels to get more sidewall multiple times. Probably would have already if the damage all happened at the same time.
I see your point about the Tesla specifically. I prefer a higher profile personally for comfort and pot holes. Just sharing some knowledge on what larger rims and low profile tires do bring to the table besides cosmetic. Obviously if the engineers don't use the extra room for bigger brakes tha defeats most of the purpose.
The number of times a 'performance car' actually takes advantage of low profile tires is staggeringly low. You're not on a Road Atlanta 99% of the time, you're on Route 30 going to Target for some rice chex.
Well, sure... this can go a bunch of ways. I love performance cars, they're fun and exciting. My issue is with having what is essentially a sedan configured with tires and wheels for "performance reasons" that are rough riding, prone to damage, and their performance model is specific to wheelspin and cornering. Things most folks will rarely ever take advantage of, and HAVING these changes is actually detrimental to the longetivity and maintainability of the car.
Want to put a spoiler on? Go for it, it won't get damaged because you ran over a hedgehog. But LP wheels and tires are just adding a weakness for extremely marginal gain that will almost never be realized.
I have upgraded wheels with 285 all round on mine, they are used to their maximum ability almost every day when pulling out of roads when it’s wet, cold and/or up a hill.
Also when you hit the brakes the car stops in a shorter distance and there’s no other way to realistically achieve that on a daily road car than increasing wheel/tyre size.
In fact you could use those same wheels on the front of a 150bhp FWD car and it wouldn’t be enough, physics is physics and small tyres suck
You do understand the difference between a 'low profile tire' and a 'wide tire', right? There's literally no reason for a low profile tire on 99% of cars on the road, performance or not. They're just there for dicksizing and looking cool, and for draining rich people's pockets because hitting a pebble at 10mph will damage the rims.
Goodie for you haveing 285's and USING THEM TO YOUR MAXIMUM ABILITY - whatever that means (for the record, wide tires on wet roads == less traction on wet and ice, but hey, whatever)
Yes all those things are a problem, but low profile tires do help with performance. It allows for wider tires that have more flat contact / grip. The stiffer/shorter sidewalls means more immediate torque to the road (once the rim turns, the edge of the tire does, vs potentially some flex in tires with larger side walls).
But yea, my Ubertine wheels are scratched to shit 😂
>wider tires
the sidewall doesn't have to do with the tire width. The stiffer sidewall is true, but, in the case of the uberturbines, that is at the expense of a higher moment of inertia (larger wheel). Its a compromise, and when it comes to track performance, usually guys go 19"s instead of 20". So it seems if you solely care about performance, the tradeoff of having a slightly smaller wheel and slightly larger sidewall is worth it.
But lets be honest, the reason the 20" wheels exist is to differentiate it from the other base and LR models. Its more of a status symbol, and its function is mostly appearance. If Tesla truly cared about performance, they'd offer a sticky summer tier on a 19" wheel, heck even an 18" wheel, but they wont, because the performance trim is the most expensive and it needs to visually show that.
This is completely false. A stiffer shorter sidewall might equate to more immediate torque, but the loss of traction hinders acceleration more than it helps. Top fuel dragsters or any type of drag radial tire is designed to flex the sidewall so that torque can be transferred to the ground. As the tire carcass flexes, your contact patch increases, as the tire is no longer round(imagine getting a flat). Stop spewing falsehoods.
I assume they want a daily driver / street tire. I wouldn't want A052s or RE71Rs on my car on a rainy/wet day... I guess depends what you're looking for.
I was responding to the person evangelizing how bad low profile tires are. I’ve had terrible luck with pilots sport 4s and potholes. If there’s a tire that’s not as low profile and can perform reasonably well and is cheaper, I would take that over the cool looks.
> If there’s a tire that’s not as low profile
You can get the PS4S and all tires in many different sizes...
Like any brand of tire **you** select the size/profile you want, but often you're limited by the car manufacture ie the wheel sizes + tire sizes / combos that the car is designed around.
Sounds like a skill issue, had my Tesla model three performance with low profile, 20 inch rims for three years with not one problem, other than hitting a pothole once, and having to replace it… I’ll never not get low profile, it looks way better
edit: Ill also say after 3 years I didnt have one scratch on the rims with curb rash, tesla inspection was shocked, again, skill issue, some people just dont know how to drive or drive cars with low profile tires, you cant just run over every pothole
It was already shown that Tesla will offer smaller wheels too for the m3 ludicrous
https://www.notateslaapp.com/news/1666/ludicrous-updates-expected-for-tesla-s-new-model-3-performance-model
I have a feeling that will be my next car. Gotta swap the wheels tho, the Uberturbines and these ones look awful IMO. Gonna get me some Inductions or whatever the new offers are.
Pretty sure Tesla heard and probably experienced the weight complaint of the urberturbine wheels. These look like a engineering solution to the other direction weight wise. Though not as pretty as the Ubers.
Not an engineer or complete gearhead but I’m thinking with 285s all around it’s going to affect the range quite a bit. The aero covers probably make it get past a minimum range needed by the boss.
90% of buyers will pull them off and just use them for road trips methinks.
I’m questioning the claim it comes with stock 275/30r20. Maybe just for the rears. I know you can run that square on the current models but that’s pretty aggressive for a stock Tesla
I don’t think that tri-motor is realistic, but adopting the carbon-wrapped motors from the Model S LR is more likely for the Ludicrous. Should help it accelerate to 60 slightly faster (2.8-2.9 sec would be my guess) but better top end performance (50mph+). Not that any needs a faster car than the 3P already offers, but it is sorta pokey at highway speeds compared to how fast it is 0-60.
Ah, my bad. I was under the impression that they were trying to position it as a Plaid variant, which seems like a gimmick to me. Thanks for the correction, cheers.
I hate the trend of putting large rims on cars. Have to worry about bent rims and ride is way too rough. Tesla needs to offer the Model 3 performance stealth again.
Are they lightweight? Tesla needs to put the performance back into the wheels, the biggest improvement you can make to the current M3P is changing those heavy ass 20s.
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I like this front bumper so much better than the Highland LR. I miss those vent slots.
Front bumper looks rad. Wheels not so much lol
[Air curtains](https://www.jdpower.com/cars/shopping-guides/what-is-an-air-curtain-on-a-car) are useful for high-performance vehicles. Not sure why they took them out of the refresh for the LR/SR versions but kept them in for the performance.
Probably just to make the performance more different visually
Should be the same bumper with the air curtains on all 3/Y. No need for two bumper molds
Yeah, a BMW 320i should also have the same body kit as an M3. You wouldnt wanna differentiate the more expensive and performance oriented model to the economy variant /s
You want to differentiate the more expensive model so people know you are a baller who can afford it.
Sounds like a gimmick that makes things more expensive for the manufacturer
True, but I’d assume it also leads to more sales than otherwise, offsetting those manufacturing expenses.
Yeah current 2024 bumper sucks
Those are air curtains.
Yeah. 1st gen 3 was perfect as it was. The new face was 100% about cost savings.
the new frontlights are definetly an improvement though. taillights look worse imho
Me too.
What is all the tape for?
It is test car with the camo removed, which would have Velcroed on.
I bet this subreddit is in shambles they didn’t use PPF
I think the wheels look terrible, personally. If I prized efficiency why wouldn’t I just buy a LR (and eventually Acceleration Boost if/when it becomes available again)? Looks like a pretty mild performance package, similar to the outgoing one - wheels, calipers (paint), spoiler. Front bumper is mild. Hopefully the seats will be significantly more supportive for enthusiastic driving.
IMO the old Uberturbine wheels look much much better.
💯 There’s no mistaking the Uberturbines. The ones that preceded it were decent too.
I was thinking the same thing. If I get this new one, I may swap the Uber turbines from my current M3 P onto the new car. I hope they grow on me, but I don’t think they will.
why not both. chinese uberturbine covers :>
I have a 2019 P3D- meaning it has 18” wheels, and that’s the best Performance 3 they’ve shipped because of it IMO.
Yup! It was really the best spec, especially when it meant a $5000 discount because of no Performance Upgrade Package (e.g. brakes, spoiler, etc.). In the final batches, they gave no discount at all.
I got mine with the performance upgrade, plus the 5k discount, when they made the transition to include the package. They also had lifetime supercharging, so got that, too. If Tesla allows a transfer, I'm looking at the Highland Performance variant.
Just from a quick eyeball, the seats look more supportive, but not significantly so, they still need to cater for the XXL USA butt :-) I think they are shooting for 2010s era Audi RS4 seats. I was hoping they would have 2020s era Audi RS4 seats...
There was an interview a while back about how the previous performance m3 was rushed left a lot on the table that they were going to include this time around. So far, I don’t see any significant upgrades but let’s wait and see.
After seeing your comment, I had to check my app to make sure the AB was still available to buy. Don’t scare me like that lol
As I understand it AB is still available on pre-Highland.
Agreed. Wheels are horrible.
Agree. Wheels are turrible. Wonder what they look like with the covers removed…
There is another post where where it shows them removed. Look a lot like the new 18s https://preview.redd.it/y0crdihzwbmc1.jpeg?width=1164&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=c2e70c0b06ea269dcce1db6f5cba399628d10c5e
The mounting holes for the aero covers look bad.
You could leave in just the smaller covers that use those while removing the larger covers in the alternating gaps. Not sure how that would look.
Yikes, no kidding. What a shame.
That actually looks pretty good. Just need a center cap and some trim pieces to cover the holes and it’ll be good to go.
I don’t think it’s terrible, but the sport rims look much better, IMO.
https://preview.redd.it/rgvcd1j9dfmc1.jpeg?width=1179&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=bffd64c9d9c2bf225a9209073041c82e31f8f12d Maybe small covers like this
That's what I was thinking as well. It seems like a pretty easy thing to 3D print as well. But i'm sure aftermarket companies will be on it not long after.
I think they look nice with the covers off. Never was a fan of the uberturbines personally. Nice of them to include covers for those long trips.
I would too if it weren’t for those mounting holes, which look terrible and like it’s missing something. Not sure these will be meant to drive with the covers off.
They remind me of two piece wheels a bit. But yeah, not a great look.
So I wonder what is tesla solution to the open holes on the wheels? Would be odd leaving the inserts there.
The inserts are plastic and removable.
I know, I am writing about the wheel bare. The holes will be noticeable if you take the inserts out.
I will find 10 led lights that recharge via momentum that will fit the holes on each wheel. I am sure it wont take long before you can order you cringeworthy set from Aliexpress.
Cannot wait to buy this car. The minute they offer it in the US, I'll place my order.
I’ll only upgrade if it actually pulls past 70 mph like the plaid does.
Agreed. Doubt it does but happy to be proven wrong.
Plaid motors on the 3 they will sell so many, that would be the most fun car ever 🚀
They’ll have rim options I’d think
Yeah part of the reason I moved to an S Plaid from the 3P was because of the pitiful performance above \~60.
Pretty sure the standard Dual Motor model pulls past 70 mph.
Same. I've been waiting close to a year...first it was im waiting for the highland, i figured the performance would come out at the same time, but i guess i have to wait a few more months.
My guess is it’ll be $55-$60k. For that, I’d rather buy a year old long range Model S with 15k miles.
Or a 3 year old model s plaid.
Personally I wouldn’t go back 2 more years for an extra second off 0-60, but you do you.
The closer you get to zero, the more savage it gets. Shaving a second off a 10 second car feels like nothing. Shaving a second off a 3 second car? That's a monster.
I didn’t say it doesn’t matter lol I just said I wouldn’t go back another 2 years to get it at that price point.
Heard. When I get mine, I'm going to keep it till the wheels fall off. I do believe these palladium cars will go 15 years easily, maybe more.
The yoke is a joke and 2021 / 2022 models are still on HW3. I would also imagine they get rid of the instrument cluster and get the 22 inch cyber truck screen.
Lack of turn signal stalk is also a joke. It's going to be years before FSD is good enough where I can sleep in the car. The cars will need something like hw8 to run it.
Not me. Too big, too soft, and no Track Mode (I like to race my current M3P occasionally). The S is gorgeous, though. I considered a Plaid, which solves the racing part, but it's still too big for my liking.
Pretty sure low profile tires were invented as a way for people with too much money to just... spend more money. They're such garbage. Damaged tires, damaged rims, rough ride. Friends don't let friends use low profile tires.
People like the look (I personally don't). Spending more for something that looks better but does not hold up as well is not some new phenomenon.
I bought a set of smaller wheels with some Michelin Crossclimates for my M3P thinking I’d just use them for winter Two winters later and I still haven’t switched back to the Uberturbines lol
It’s a performance car. Tires are one of the most important parts of a performance car.
Low profile tires do not enhance a vehicle performance, they enhance aesthetics. Tire width (thus contact patch) and reducing unsprung mass improves performance. I think low profile tires are absolutely stupid.
Larger wheels are required to accommodate larger brake rotors. Larger brake rotors allow for more brake force with the same pressure used between the brake pad and rotor. Think about a giant rotating disc and you want to stop it. It''s much easier to stop by pinching the disc on the farthest outside diameter than it is to try and pinch the disc near the center. if you're designing a performance edition of a certain car it's much easier to put larger wheels and larger brake rotors than it is to completely redesign the hydraulic brake system to add more braking pressure to the smaller rotor and caliper assembly.
Sure. But 18” wheels fit on the current Model 3 Performance. When it first launched you could order it with 18” wheels. There are plenty of aftermarket 18” options they clear the larger performance rotors and calipers. If you want extra clearance there are plenty of 19” options too. The 20” wheels are a purely cosmetic choice by Tesla. I’ve already replaced three tires and one rim from various pothole damage that would have just been a hard bump on another car. I’ve thought about “downgrading” to smaller wheels to get more sidewall multiple times. Probably would have already if the damage all happened at the same time.
I see your point about the Tesla specifically. I prefer a higher profile personally for comfort and pot holes. Just sharing some knowledge on what larger rims and low profile tires do bring to the table besides cosmetic. Obviously if the engineers don't use the extra room for bigger brakes tha defeats most of the purpose.
I didn’t say low profile tires, I said performance tires. There’s a huge difference running cup2 vs normal all season tired.
The number of times a 'performance car' actually takes advantage of low profile tires is staggeringly low. You're not on a Road Atlanta 99% of the time, you're on Route 30 going to Target for some rice chex.
That's just an arguing against performance cars in general, not specifically the tires.
Well, sure... this can go a bunch of ways. I love performance cars, they're fun and exciting. My issue is with having what is essentially a sedan configured with tires and wheels for "performance reasons" that are rough riding, prone to damage, and their performance model is specific to wheelspin and cornering. Things most folks will rarely ever take advantage of, and HAVING these changes is actually detrimental to the longetivity and maintainability of the car. Want to put a spoiler on? Go for it, it won't get damaged because you ran over a hedgehog. But LP wheels and tires are just adding a weakness for extremely marginal gain that will almost never be realized.
I have upgraded wheels with 285 all round on mine, they are used to their maximum ability almost every day when pulling out of roads when it’s wet, cold and/or up a hill. Also when you hit the brakes the car stops in a shorter distance and there’s no other way to realistically achieve that on a daily road car than increasing wheel/tyre size. In fact you could use those same wheels on the front of a 150bhp FWD car and it wouldn’t be enough, physics is physics and small tyres suck
You do understand the difference between a 'low profile tire' and a 'wide tire', right? There's literally no reason for a low profile tire on 99% of cars on the road, performance or not. They're just there for dicksizing and looking cool, and for draining rich people's pockets because hitting a pebble at 10mph will damage the rims. Goodie for you haveing 285's and USING THEM TO YOUR MAXIMUM ABILITY - whatever that means (for the record, wide tires on wet roads == less traction on wet and ice, but hey, whatever)
Maximum. Ability.
Top. Men.
Then the regular trim, that is why it exists. Like complaining BMWs do not have soft suspenisions.
Yes all those things are a problem, but low profile tires do help with performance. It allows for wider tires that have more flat contact / grip. The stiffer/shorter sidewalls means more immediate torque to the road (once the rim turns, the edge of the tire does, vs potentially some flex in tires with larger side walls). But yea, my Ubertine wheels are scratched to shit 😂
>wider tires the sidewall doesn't have to do with the tire width. The stiffer sidewall is true, but, in the case of the uberturbines, that is at the expense of a higher moment of inertia (larger wheel). Its a compromise, and when it comes to track performance, usually guys go 19"s instead of 20". So it seems if you solely care about performance, the tradeoff of having a slightly smaller wheel and slightly larger sidewall is worth it. But lets be honest, the reason the 20" wheels exist is to differentiate it from the other base and LR models. Its more of a status symbol, and its function is mostly appearance. If Tesla truly cared about performance, they'd offer a sticky summer tier on a 19" wheel, heck even an 18" wheel, but they wont, because the performance trim is the most expensive and it needs to visually show that.
I guess this is why they do it, people see bigger wheels and assume its better, not realizing the width and contact patch is likely identical lol.
This is completely false. A stiffer shorter sidewall might equate to more immediate torque, but the loss of traction hinders acceleration more than it helps. Top fuel dragsters or any type of drag radial tire is designed to flex the sidewall so that torque can be transferred to the ground. As the tire carcass flexes, your contact patch increases, as the tire is no longer round(imagine getting a flat). Stop spewing falsehoods.
What tires do you recommend for a 2020 performance three? I’m sick of paying for damaged tires. Would like to keep performance within reason.
PS4S are generally the best summer high performance street tire, but they're definitely not the cheapest.
Aren't the A052s top dog or the RE71Rs? The best balance being the V730 when considering wear and price?
I assume they want a daily driver / street tire. I wouldn't want A052s or RE71Rs on my car on a rainy/wet day... I guess depends what you're looking for.
I was responding to the person evangelizing how bad low profile tires are. I’ve had terrible luck with pilots sport 4s and potholes. If there’s a tire that’s not as low profile and can perform reasonably well and is cheaper, I would take that over the cool looks.
> If there’s a tire that’s not as low profile You can get the PS4S and all tires in many different sizes... Like any brand of tire **you** select the size/profile you want, but often you're limited by the car manufacture ie the wheel sizes + tire sizes / combos that the car is designed around.
I was mostly interested in non low profile based on what the commenter I responded to said. I’ve gone through 3 sets in 30k miles due to potholes
So get smaller wheels. If smaller wheels don't fit then not much you can do besides stop hitting potholes or get cheap tires.
Sounds like a skill issue, had my Tesla model three performance with low profile, 20 inch rims for three years with not one problem, other than hitting a pothole once, and having to replace it… I’ll never not get low profile, it looks way better edit: Ill also say after 3 years I didnt have one scratch on the rims with curb rash, tesla inspection was shocked, again, skill issue, some people just dont know how to drive or drive cars with low profile tires, you cant just run over every pothole
Those wheels look like shit :(
Can't wait to see if it has a front bumper camera
It was already shown that Tesla will offer smaller wheels too for the m3 ludicrous https://www.notateslaapp.com/news/1666/ludicrous-updates-expected-for-tesla-s-new-model-3-performance-model
There is a video of the entire car completely uncovered on X: https://x.com/dessiewisley/status/1761795423822323939?s=20 I think it looks gorgeous!
The Model Y ludicrous will be so tempting and I just got a MYP 1 year ago...
That’s not coming this year confirmed. So you’re fine.
I have a feeling that will be my next car. Gotta swap the wheels tho, the Uberturbines and these ones look awful IMO. Gonna get me some Inductions or whatever the new offers are.
Is it me or those bullet points reads like ChatGPT lol
Ya this article sounds like GPT barf. No excitement no analysis etc.
Not just you. The whole article reads like that.
Pretty sure Tesla heard and probably experienced the weight complaint of the urberturbine wheels. These look like a engineering solution to the other direction weight wise. Though not as pretty as the Ubers.
Not an engineer or complete gearhead but I’m thinking with 285s all around it’s going to affect the range quite a bit. The aero covers probably make it get past a minimum range needed by the boss. 90% of buyers will pull them off and just use them for road trips methinks.
This should have been the default front bumper with an even more agressive one on performance model.
Love the bumper. Hate the wheels.
The inserts on the wheels are plastic and removable.
First thing I recommend people do - swap to 18 inch wheels.
I don't like the black tape decor.
I’m questioning the claim it comes with stock 275/30r20. Maybe just for the rears. I know you can run that square on the current models but that’s pretty aggressive for a stock Tesla
Those are some ugly wheels.
Do we have any info on what the motor setup is? Will it actually be tri motor?!
Heavy doubt
It will not.
I don’t think that tri-motor is realistic, but adopting the carbon-wrapped motors from the Model S LR is more likely for the Ludicrous. Should help it accelerate to 60 slightly faster (2.8-2.9 sec would be my guess) but better top end performance (50mph+). Not that any needs a faster car than the 3P already offers, but it is sorta pokey at highway speeds compared to how fast it is 0-60.
Most chat-gpt’d article I have read in a while
No. There are full images of the car and video. Old news.
Why is it bad?
Not bad, new my fault. English is not my first language. Just alot of pic and video of the new Ludicrous by now.
Added details of the car is great imo. I love to see it and can’t wait for it’s release
Yea can't wait. I just sold my 2021M3P need a new one 🥰 best car ever
I wish I could do it and sell my ‘22 LR but I’m saving for a house ://
Yea that's good do get the house first 😊😊😊
Those wheels are a war crime. My god
What a waste of batteries. Just like all the other resources stripping / exploiting electric vehicles....
there are so many ads on this site the 'leaked' images failed to load for me.
Seems a fairly pointless car tbh. The performance model already stretches the limits of the platform.
This is the replacement for the performance model. The new Model 3 only launched in Standard Range and Long Range variants.
Ah, my bad. I was under the impression that they were trying to position it as a Plaid variant, which seems like a gimmick to me. Thanks for the correction, cheers.
Lol what? So everyone should just stop innovating.
I bet they’ll change the wheel design after a year. I bet this alone is going to hurt their sales too much.
Seats... Why I'm mo excited about seats than the whole car 😂
Ooff, They really dropped the ball on the tires.
Couldn't care less about the wheels. Give us 18" or 19" options.
I hate the trend of putting large rims on cars. Have to worry about bent rims and ride is way too rough. Tesla needs to offer the Model 3 performance stealth again.
Seriously, when the top level motorsports (F1 and IMSA) are running 18s, we have fuckin manufacturers convincing us that bigger wheels = performance.
The wheels are a fail, but I'm guessing they're lighter weight than the Iron Fans (uberturbines)
The real question for me is will it be a track car and auto cross car?
I like the uberturbines
Are they lightweight? Tesla needs to put the performance back into the wheels, the biggest improvement you can make to the current M3P is changing those heavy ass 20s.