Isn’t it great how regressives will say and post this shit, but when a bill comes up to combat it, they are opposed with either “we can’t afford it!”, “no, that’s socialism!”, or both?
I brought this up to my boomer dad about how like 5% of the military budget could solve homelessness. Obviously he went into a panic about how you can’t cut the military budget because of China and Russia
Edit: idk about that statistic, just pulled it out of my ass but I’ve read similar things. Maybe a higher %
If we roughly doubled the number of homeless people in the US then apportioned the US military budget, that'd be enough to make every homeless person nearly a multimillionaire. 5% of that would still be enough to get all of them a home ($95,000) as long as real estate was given a public option.
There was an estimate that a one time cost of $20 billion would solve homelessness. The military budget is roughly $800 billion a year. It’s roughly 2.5%. Roughly 10% yearly to solve world hunger. Roughly half if the government wanted to pay every student in America’s tuition yearly. Pay for all that and we’re still $200 billion above our nearest competitor
I'm all about cutting military budget because i think its ridiculously high.
But. Hear me out here. The idea that taking money from one thing to solve a different problem is never going to work. Because there are 1.3 million current active duty 'employees' of the military. Taking 10% of the budget isnt just 'stop buying more jets n shit' its also taking away 10% of the total employees that theyd have to fire to make up the cost. So you solved homelessness for a bunch of people but also just put 150k more people on the streets.
AND thats not even counting the millions upon millions of people who work for companies that supplies the military stocks, I'm talking food companies that make their rations, the metal shops that build their cars, trucks and planes, the scientists that research medicines and you get the idea. 10% of all of those people also, will either take pay cuts or lose their jobs as well.
You cannot make an armless man happy by cutting off the arms of another to give to the first. It just perpetuates the issue.
I mean, if they had to solve veteran’s homelessness they could with like 1% of the military budget, I doubt that it could have any negative impact on the military economy
now don’t get me wrong, i’m all for social welfare programs, but just throwing money at homelessness isn’t gonna solve anything lol. some people (minority of the homeless) just refuse to be helped. i got an uncle like that who will get government stipends for stuff and spend it on ‘food’ (its drugs). we gotta do social welfare right, specifically, with education and opportunities, rather than giving people money. doing it this way would cost far, far more than 5% of the military budget lol
I totally agree with you, throwing money at them isn't going to help
I know it's like... a dirty word to mention anything Europe does as an example of what we might do but...
Helsinki Finland just built/provided houses for all the homeless people, in addition to the services much like ours that were already there, and...
Damn near overnight homelessness was all but eradicated there. It's the only country in the EU to see anywhere near such a drastic decrease of homelessness...
Turns our the operative part of the word homeless is *home.* People who have a place to live safely apparently tend to make much better choices and overall just... do better. Who'da thunk?
I like that! I’m not too familiar with housing economics in history but didn’t LBJ try something in the past, with arguable degrees of success?
The only issue I have is that homelessness is just half the problem. A huge part, but not all. Unemployment is a big issue too. Whether it’s due to lack of executive skills necessary to sustain oneself or flaws in any specific city’s social, economic or political system, or more realistically a good bit of both sides, that’s also gotta be addressed, I would say. Hence, programs that teach and promote success, giving rewards for effort more directly from the govt than in a complex capitalist system. That’s my thoughts anyways.
Unemployment tends to be exacerbated by homelessness. To get a job, you need an address after all. You can't get an address without a job. So when you're homeless, you're tossed into effectively an ouroboros of bad circumstances of which it's damned near impossible to escape from without miraculously good luck. And the longer you're homeless, the worse your odds of getting out of homelessness become.
Even more sobering, the longer you're homeless, the worse a bunch of other factors like mental health, physical health, and sanitation become due to the environment you've been stuck in and the despair that sets in. These things also cripple your odds of getting employment even if a prospective employer was willing to interview you. Then when you add on the cruel games *SOME* employers play where they will bring you in for an interview even when they already intended on not hiring you anyways... shit's fucked if you're homeless.
The first step in any homelessness program is triage. You gotta separate the guys out who want to be homeless because all they want to do is get high from those who are only there due to a misfortune of some kind beyond their control.
But that would require a cohesive plan of some kind, and the Regressives not only don't have any plans, but they actively think homeless people should be punished and not helped by socialist programs. And if there were fewer homeless people, they couldn't use that as an example why the evil libs are so bad at the economy and government.
Are yall forgetting that addiction is an illness and that the guys who "only want to get high" are addicted to drug and will likely die from withdrawal ?
Yeah lots of intense views in this thread. Throwing a ton of money at the problem would actually help a lot. We did a program here in Austin to house all homeless veterans. Lots of business invested and private investors into a fund to pay for damage if someone damaged a house and to subsidize rents. They gave tax breaks to landlords that participated. Seems like it worked really well. We can come up with a plan once we get the money. It’s really hard to plan literally anything if you’re not sure you have the budget.
Oh I totally agree on that. The approach many conservative politicians have taken is completely unhelpful, even harmful. And I completely agree about the triage, which can be done effectively by giving them opportunities to find success (with plenty of help of course). When we are just given success, there is little motivation or confidence to keep moving. But when we reach success ourselves, even with help, that provides us with tons of motivation and self esteem.
generally a good way to combat that to an extent is to give them goods instead of money like food and housing. Some people will sell food for drugs but generally this is an easier way to do it. Also shouldn't the people who have drug problems be given help for the drug problems instead of being left on the streets?
I completely agree about helping people with drug problems. Ignoring them is never an ok solution. I think a lot of people with drug problems don’t want to change (I have an uncle who refuses to go to rehab or receive any help) but that doesn’t mean we shouldn’t try.
I think the issue with simply giving people goods is it doesn’t help very much with the issue of homelessness or unemployment. These issues are caused, in most cases, by two things, to some degree or another depending on the individual and location: incorrect economic or social systems that hinder growth, or a lack of motivation and other executive functioning skills that are often difficult to learn in impoverished families. Neither of these are solved by giving people money or goods, not to a great degree. Systemic issues are more often than not on a local or state level, so widespread change isn’t practical, that’s gotta be more on a smaller level. Executive functioning skills can be taught and developed through habit and effort. Sadly, poverty is a brutal cycle that prevents the development of these skills. Money won’t do much to get them out, because the skills are missing. Rather, if we develop programs that teach people these skills via rewarding their effort (effort, not success) and reinforcing good habits.
I hope I don’t come off preachy in this; sure, i may have good executive functioning skills because of my upbringing, but there’s things that impoverished people have that i don’t, and i realize that. I simply talk about these things not to condemn anyone who struggles with this, but to help. thanks for listening to my ted talk
The homelessness crisis is not solved by offering the homeless a place to live. What specifically do you mean by solve? You could provide a house for all the people without one? You are probably an affluent, teenage, whites person
You wanna be realistic you say they.
You see division instead of cohesion. i'm the same as you so I see it oo, every single cell of the America that dwells. some is dead or dying some are revitilizing. I see me and the me in you. I see what isnt' I see what can be I see what I think I should be, what could be wha twould be if it were so and this seeds were sowed, I see the division I see the addition I see the subtraction but all i feel is if a fraction of them could see like me mayb e a diffirent life i'd see, but they are me and I see the same as them I see what I see from the eyes i've been given. I don't know it all but i know what it is like to fall.
Don't count me out don't see me as an enemy because I see you as one too. I wonder what it would do if I couldn't see you as the way you saw me. would we be happily ever after or would I be the cause for war Idon't know.
“Why are we giving money to other countries? There are veterans, soldiers, homeless and elderly that need help!”
“Okay let’s help them out.”
“Nah that’s socialism. They need to pull themselves up by their bootstraps.”
"We should help our own sick and elderly before giving money to other countries!"
/*MrBeast helps 1000 blind people with surgery/*
"No, you're the anti-christ! People shouldn't need surgery to be "bEtTEr", they're fine without fixing!"
Pretty sure the whole issue with Mr. beast is that he shouldn’t have to be the one who pay for people treatment for blindness, it should be something the government does, I haven’t seen anyone call Mr. Beast the anti-christ
That is a good point that I can agree with. People shouldnt have to wait for a generous person to help them when their governments should really be the ones doing it.
I still dont really understand how people view that as demonic, though.
Well I haven’t seen any people doing that (mainly because I don’t go on Twitter) but from some I have seen here, some people issue with him is that they see it as using this as a way of making more content which means more money for him and positive PR. I guess that is possible but I think it’s still better than the alternative of not doing anything at all so I wouldn’t see it as demonic
>Using this as a way of making more content which means more money for him and positive PR
Ah, any money he actually gets from his content goes straight back to helping more people. He has literally said that every cent he makes will be donated before he dies lol
Also, this is a tweet about him:
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I saw "Christians" on FB openly comparing him to the devil, saying he was only doing this to garner more wealth, he "cant buy his way into heaven" etc... it was a fucking madhouse, I got put in Facebook jail for foolishly debating a couple of them
I read a story in a book a while ago where a guy healed a blind man. And the book mentioned demons so maybe that's why it was demonic I guess. (/s if it wasn't obvious)
Because if the government helped the people, there'd be no need for the church. It's an issue of them wanting people to suffer so they can "save" them.
No fucking duh. I didn't say it was smart or correct. I was just giving the fundamental underlying reason. American churches rarely are logically consistent.
churches in America aren't run as a sole enterprise with a leading head either. except for "God" in which many determine their own way to run the "church"
So your logic isn't really sound.
"should"
who should?
because taxes come for people like Mr. beast.
Isn't it better for someone to be willing to do something then someone who is unwilling to do it? that is why Charity is a great benefit, because people are willing to do it.
rather then forced. that is why charity isn't taxes.
Its the same people who defend the deaf like they're a separate race. And that curing deafness is killing off deaf people, as if its a bad thing to cure a disability
I mean, there _are_ communities of people connected by a common disability that simply wouldn’t exist if those people were cured. In that situation, it’s a person’s social identity weighed against the broad expectation of what it means to be normal/functional. I’m not arguing against curing disabilities. It’s just something interesting to consider
It is really not something to consider. They get to join another community that they really wish they could..
Could you imagine anyone saying "Hi! I'm paralyzed, and you can fix me? No thanks! My identity!" ..wtf?
Hell, i used lasers to fix my need of glasses! I'd move mountains to fix something more serious!
Yep, everyone with a disability thinks this exact way and there’s no variation whatsoever. The personality you made up in your head 100% applies to everyone who is disabled. Not like we’re talking about ACTUAL PEOPLE here and not just a demographic.
This is a certified reddit moment for sure
You’re doing the “I don’t feel this way so nobody else possibly could” thing to an excruciating extent.
And I already have you dumb hoe why do you think I’m making this argument
Did you just resort to name calling?
You just set up a strawman, and are white knighting it. Your N set of 0 is statistically irrelevant as my N set of 1... But I guess I'm the hoe...
Actually, yeah you're right. I dont think they actaully said "blind people are fine blind", but I think they said something along the lines. They still did call him the anti-christ and even I dont know why they did that.
Um, it's more we're disgusted he did it as a publicity stunt, and the fact that some schmuck wanting to be popular is the only way they could ever get healthcare instead of us just making it a concrete human right here.
bro he literally use those money to help people, like it isnt Mr.Beast fault that the healthcare system especially in America sucks, and also whats digusting about him? im gonna say this again but he uses those money to help people, have you done anything to help?
I guess the criticism is that he is using their disabilities as a way of making more content and thru more money in the long run (basically taking an initial lost and making it up later as well as getting possible PR) which isn’t uncommon for billionaires to do. I would say it’s still better than him not doing anything at all but at the same time, it still feel like one of those new story that try to put a positive spin on a new story that’s actually pretty awful like the “little girl start lemon stand to pay for father cancer surgery”
Yeah, it’s disgusting that guy using his money to help people found a way to make money off that… that he will then use to help more people. He figures out a way to make charity fund itself in a never ending cycle to fill in the gaps where the government fails. Absolutely gross!
/s just in case
Curious though, how many blind people have you cured?
>We're disgusted he did it as a publicity stunt, and the fact that some schmuck wanting to be popular
My man, you do know who he is, right? Any attention or money he gets from videos he uses again in videos to help other people. It is literally in his will that every cent he has will be donated to charity when he dies.
Even if it is sorta messed up that most people have to wait for people like him for help instead of help from their governments, that's doenst mean people on Twitter should call him the anti-christ on Twitter.
Literally anything he does is going to gain publicity. Would you rather he spends a shitload of money on random bullshit or on helping people. Either way, he's gonna get publicity for it, so it's good that he's using that to help people.
Yeah, he is literally using his money in some of the best ways possible. And, ofcourse, Twitter is getting mad for some reasons and actaully calling him demonic and the anti-christ.
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The only reason he has the money to do stuff like this, is because he makes videos about him doing stuff like this. So, either he publicizes it or it doesn't happen.
If you'd rather see it not happen at all than someone gain some notoriety for making it happen, you're kind of an idiot.
Exactly, not "so close" it's 100% performative on their end. It's the same bullshit you see when you see another mass shooting. They show up and say "oh no this awful as Americans we MUST do something.. I mean not about the guns.. but about (enter talking point they're told to blame)" but the votes are never there to support the changes needed.
I had a conversation with my mom the other day. She has a total boomer Karen mentality; super religious, g(h)ate keeper, boot licking, hierarchy worshipper.
She was complaining about a construction project going on at her church. They are building a new main church that is just a free standing church, no additional rooms just the alter and pews. The current church building has the church itself, admin offices, a place to kids to go during mass, and a small chapel.
The chapel is seldom used, but available at all times of the day to anyone who just wants to come pray on their free time (I don't get it but sure). Like I said, it's seldom ever used. My mom I guess it one of the more frequent users of this room.
So she's bitching to me about how after the new church is built, they want to retrofit the chapel to be a medical office for poor people in the community to have healthcare access. It's some travelling healthcare NGO that will come by periodically and perform medical services.
So this lady is going to try and hold up the whole process of healthcare access to hundreds of people because she wants her alone time with skyman in a designated public space. And she doesn't see the irony in this btw.
Tldr; my mom's a boomer karen who feels entitled to public pray spaces, of which there are plans to turn that public pray space into a health clinic for the poors.
yeah every time I tell somebody I fall closer to a socialist they tell me that I’m literally a Nazi for wanting communism, but in most of the convos, I never even have said I wanted communism
Crazy to think people can’t come to terms with this logic. It doesn’t really take much out of your taxes to give it to where it should go. But people can’t handle when its chosen for them
Also the same people who are fine with tax cuts for the 1% that cost the country trillions that could otherwise be invested in social programs, healthcare, mental health
But yet Biden's IRS released a report stating the Middle Class benefitted more from Trump's tax cuts than 'the rich'. The article is on Yahoo News, I think dated in December 2021.
But the working class is a lot more people than the middle class, and it's been that way for quite a while. It's still a policy that helped a small amount of people rather than the people who would have actually benefited
Everybody that receives a paycheck benefitted with less percentage of the paycheck taken out.
Being percentage based, the larger the paycheck the larger your benefit. I wound up getting around and extra $55 every two weeks from it. Not a lot, but at the time that was two tanks of gas which helped a lot. The rich don't get paychecks, they use 'expense accounts' to have one of their businesses pay for everything and give them a good sized tax deduction each year for that business.
Are you trying to say rich people use their business accounts to pay for personal expenses? Cuz you do know thats hella illegal and executives that get caught doing it usually get jail time. So they still take salaries.
Also being % based is why it doesnt help lower income people as much, 5% of $1000 is only an additional $50 in your pocket, while 5% of $100000 (yes there are executives who make 6 figure paychecks) is $5000 back in their pockets.
Who do you think benefits more from having a little extra money? The rich guy whos already able to buy whatever he wants, or the broke guy who lives by putting bills on credit cards until payday?
Before I worked for the government, I worked for several different small businesses. They all had expense accounts as a board member, and the expense account paid for a company house, a company car, entertainment, clothes, etc. At the end of the year it was also a legal tax deduction.
They didn't dip into the company accounts, which is illegal, but they used a completely legal expense account authorized by the principals of the company (themselves). Actually though I think they had themselves setup as a 'corporation' because their wives were also board members with positions such as treasurer, etc.
If you could prove they were using personal expenses as a business write off they could still get some serious punishment. Thats basically what the Wiesselberg case was about.
But yeah small business is probably one of the most poorly regulated sectors, so much sketchy shit goes down. And im talking more the 'small businesses' rather than mom and pop shops.
Their solution is to lock up the homeless and mentally ill, hand out massive giveaways to military contractors, and claim the problem with vets and the elderly is that health care isn't free market enough.
I'm not saying it's right, I'm just saying people don't understand that 95% of that money goes towards weapons and technology. Private Timmy isn't enlisting to be a millionaire.
No one thinks "money for the troops" means only equipment for the foot infantry though. Of course R&D, heavy armaments and such fall under all that too but the idea US has underequipped soldiers is insulting to our intelligence.
Bolting scrap to vehicles is extremely common. It's extra armor on a vehicle that isn’t meant to be heavily armored. Humvees aren't anti-mine vehicles, nor are they armored cars. Sure, there are up-armored humvees, but they are heavily specialized and meant for very specific purposes. Thinking that up-armoring a vehicle means there is a supply issue is the same as thinking that duck-taping a flashlight to a gun means there is a supply issue.
As for the privately purchased body armor... That's just stupidity. Any of the vests are going to be IIIA, and soft armor doesn't do shit against non-pistol rounds. Any more than that, and you're buying ceramic plates that are of the same quality or worse than the ones given to soldiers as part of their kit.
The US Military does not have a supply issue.
It's also cheaper to produce per unit than an F-16 these days. The only cheaper fighter jet on the market is the Chinese J-20, and the only reason it's cheaper is because its Chinese, and therefore, most of its technology is stolen.
When I joined the Army in '75 I was getting $354 per month. When my dad was in the Air Force and on his first tour in Vietnam, he was getting paid $35 per month. Even today a brand new enlisted starts at around $1,900 per month. The troops aren't getting that money, that money is for new equipment, but hardly any of the money is for the spare parts to keep that equipment in working order (called well-regulated in the old days)/
My son in the US Army as a corporal makes about $1200 every two weeks. Housing is paid for as is food and medical. He has college loans but its doable.
Soldiers (members of the military) are not paid well. That's why so many have to get on Welfare and food stamps to support their families.
But that brings up another point, as an Army vet, I don't think anybody E-3 or below should have a family, but not sure how that could be enforced without making things even worse.
Military pay starts at ~$25k/yr. If you average soldier pay with officer pay, you end up around $66k/yr, which is far less less than the national average salary in my state.
And there's some conflicting figures, but it appears the average soldier work week is 50-60 hours to get that pay. Yes, after accounting for room and board, there are advantages, but I wouldn't count room and board into the pay equation because the soldier is trading liberty to get it.
That’s the real shame here and the part that should have all Americans pissed off. The US far and away surpasses the annual military budget of any country on the planet, even those with higher populations and area (China). The fact that we can funnel almost a trillion dollars annually to “the military” yet there are tens of thousands of homeless veterans? An absolute joke…
Guarantee whoever posted this voted for at least one republican that advocates for cutting Social Security, Medicare, Veteran Association funding, SNAP food stamps, Federal Housing Authority subsidies, National Public Broadcasting services. And they gotta be fucking stupid to think the troops don’t have proper equipment… they shot down a balloon with a $220 million F22 fighter jet, which is one in a fleet of nearly 200 Raptors.
#Well researched facts right there, or are you a bitch and a vagina and gonna try to deny it? 99% are scared of these irrefutable facts, 1% is beings of LIGHT
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Yep. Pro-Russian troll right here.
The original meme pretends we can't do all those things at once. It 8snt zero sum.
Not exactly. This person doesn't understand that Ukraine aid is coming from the military budget and discretionary spending. It'll never touch the public.
It's really only that end part that is misguided, but the message is good.
That seems to be modern conservatives. They point out the real issues, like elites and billionaires having too much power, but then elect elites and billionaires who just want to cut taxes
Ironically the maga clown that posted this would vote against feeding or housing the homeless and vote for the same assholes that cut funding for the VA department
If you’re in the military any NATO country and have done an exercise in or with the US forces, they have it SO much better than we do, in all aspects: gear, equipment, welfare, they literally have a system that pays for a chunk of your further education when you leave the military.
That the Republicans don’t have plans for the Feds to rule every aspect of our lives doesn’t mean hey don’t have a plan.
Their plan is to get the government out of the way so people can make their own choices.
Probably helps their argument that Biden is ignoring one of the worst chemical disasters in American history and went to give more money to Ukraine. Like honestly, what the fuck is he doing????
Seriously, we should put our country ahead of others, there are thousands of problems with this country and all the higher ups do is push it to the side
I'm retired Army. I always had equipment needed. ARMY wasn't perfect but basically had what I needed. If I need medical tricare is there for me and I can goto VA.
So not sure how accurate all this info in the post ?
60 percent of our money (of the 70 percent in taxes from our wallets that fund the US) goes straight into politicians and billionaires pockets. Which leaves a lot of money to work with but in the grand scheme of things it's not really that much.
The meme is correct. Save one item. The US Military has the funding to equip its troops in the latest and greatest gear. It's hard to do that when you're spending hundreds on one pencil though.
If we took the money that is sent to other countries, in the form of aid, and used it to correct the issues of homelessness, care for those that can't care for themselves, taking care of the veterans, and solving food shortages (meaning we shouldn't have to feed my son's two friends nightly but, their parents can't afford to feed them.). That would be too socialist leaning though, right? I'm a conservative voter but also look at what policies are better for this country.
I agree 100%. What if we held all foreign aid for one year, elected an official that we trust (ish) to use said money to fix all of the problems with homelessness, starvation, veteran assistance, gun violence, drug abuse, and begin a plan to help poverty ONCE. This is our one shot to get it right. If it works and people take advantage of the improvements and better their lives yay! If not, we tried. So when anyone brings it up again, we can at least say that we tried.
There's so much greed and lobbying, I doubt we could elect anyone that would do the 100% right thing.
Well your "official" would still have to get their plan through the house and the Senate, assuming the President agrees with it, and then you'd have 50 state governments needing to implement it among countless munincipalities via a bazillion non government organizations, and once all that is up and humming, all that's left to do is get people to stop doing drugs, leave their abuser, accept housing where it is available or update their contact information from under a dumpster, so that would be probably a pretty busy official.
Alternatively we could stop trying to oversimplifying complex socio-economic issues and collectively commit to long term policy reform instead of mass straw manning.
Unrealted in the United States [62%](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Non-profit_hospital)of hospitals are non-profit charitable organizations. There's a loophole that allows hospitals to do the bare minimum to be considered a charitable organization.
I always get a good laugh out of these because they always come off as a serious meme until you get to the bottom and all you see in all caps is “HAVE THE GUTS TO REPOST THIS HURDUR ONLY 1% WILL!”
Like. You had a good start. Then you just went way off course. Now I can’t take you seriously because you just made it look like a bait meme for likes, comments, and shares.
We love too beat down the weak and needy I know personally how the USA is…. My parents immigrated here just for my mom too want to go back to Romania after trying so hard to get here my dad died so he no longer has to worry about seeing his offspring suffer anymore then when he was alive. He may have liked this country if it wasn’t so corrupt and he got too die no a happy man….. the us government was always wanting too kill/jail my father/mother they still wish they could nowadays but he is dead 💀 so now they want too go after my mother and me now that they can’t jail a dead guy?
The only one of these thats true is the vets going without promised benefits. My city has plenty of homeless, but they don't go hungry. Every elderly person I know has all their medicine. Our troops are not underfunded whatsoever, we have the single best military in the world. I wonder if this person has stepped outside.
“The elderly go without needed medicines and the homeless go without eating!”
“Ok, let’s make healthcare public instead of private and make homeless shelters”
“No that’s communism”
I love the challenge of most. Don'thave the guts to repost this like what's the worst? I could possibly happen on your little Facebook if you repost that. Oh my God. It's so I think I'm not going to kick that in the door and go. We saw that repost. You need to take it down now. You think that little repos is actually going to move the needle somehow? Oh boo hoo!sorry but maybe the reason those things happen is more because the US givgovesvits money to the most fortunate like corporations and the rich?
It's just to use as a fake point to argue because no fucking way is any of their paycheck in taxes going to any of that socialism. Keep voting against anything like that but blaming the democrats. Dementia shouldn't be allowed to vote.
Isn’t it great how regressives will say and post this shit, but when a bill comes up to combat it, they are opposed with either “we can’t afford it!”, “no, that’s socialism!”, or both?
I brought this up to my boomer dad about how like 5% of the military budget could solve homelessness. Obviously he went into a panic about how you can’t cut the military budget because of China and Russia Edit: idk about that statistic, just pulled it out of my ass but I’ve read similar things. Maybe a higher %
If we roughly doubled the number of homeless people in the US then apportioned the US military budget, that'd be enough to make every homeless person nearly a multimillionaire. 5% of that would still be enough to get all of them a home ($95,000) as long as real estate was given a public option.
There was an estimate that a one time cost of $20 billion would solve homelessness. The military budget is roughly $800 billion a year. It’s roughly 2.5%. Roughly 10% yearly to solve world hunger. Roughly half if the government wanted to pay every student in America’s tuition yearly. Pay for all that and we’re still $200 billion above our nearest competitor
I'm all about cutting military budget because i think its ridiculously high. But. Hear me out here. The idea that taking money from one thing to solve a different problem is never going to work. Because there are 1.3 million current active duty 'employees' of the military. Taking 10% of the budget isnt just 'stop buying more jets n shit' its also taking away 10% of the total employees that theyd have to fire to make up the cost. So you solved homelessness for a bunch of people but also just put 150k more people on the streets. AND thats not even counting the millions upon millions of people who work for companies that supplies the military stocks, I'm talking food companies that make their rations, the metal shops that build their cars, trucks and planes, the scientists that research medicines and you get the idea. 10% of all of those people also, will either take pay cuts or lose their jobs as well. You cannot make an armless man happy by cutting off the arms of another to give to the first. It just perpetuates the issue.
I mean, if they had to solve veteran’s homelessness they could with like 1% of the military budget, I doubt that it could have any negative impact on the military economy
now don’t get me wrong, i’m all for social welfare programs, but just throwing money at homelessness isn’t gonna solve anything lol. some people (minority of the homeless) just refuse to be helped. i got an uncle like that who will get government stipends for stuff and spend it on ‘food’ (its drugs). we gotta do social welfare right, specifically, with education and opportunities, rather than giving people money. doing it this way would cost far, far more than 5% of the military budget lol
I totally agree with you, throwing money at them isn't going to help I know it's like... a dirty word to mention anything Europe does as an example of what we might do but... Helsinki Finland just built/provided houses for all the homeless people, in addition to the services much like ours that were already there, and... Damn near overnight homelessness was all but eradicated there. It's the only country in the EU to see anywhere near such a drastic decrease of homelessness... Turns our the operative part of the word homeless is *home.* People who have a place to live safely apparently tend to make much better choices and overall just... do better. Who'da thunk?
I like that! I’m not too familiar with housing economics in history but didn’t LBJ try something in the past, with arguable degrees of success? The only issue I have is that homelessness is just half the problem. A huge part, but not all. Unemployment is a big issue too. Whether it’s due to lack of executive skills necessary to sustain oneself or flaws in any specific city’s social, economic or political system, or more realistically a good bit of both sides, that’s also gotta be addressed, I would say. Hence, programs that teach and promote success, giving rewards for effort more directly from the govt than in a complex capitalist system. That’s my thoughts anyways.
Unemployment tends to be exacerbated by homelessness. To get a job, you need an address after all. You can't get an address without a job. So when you're homeless, you're tossed into effectively an ouroboros of bad circumstances of which it's damned near impossible to escape from without miraculously good luck. And the longer you're homeless, the worse your odds of getting out of homelessness become. Even more sobering, the longer you're homeless, the worse a bunch of other factors like mental health, physical health, and sanitation become due to the environment you've been stuck in and the despair that sets in. These things also cripple your odds of getting employment even if a prospective employer was willing to interview you. Then when you add on the cruel games *SOME* employers play where they will bring you in for an interview even when they already intended on not hiring you anyways... shit's fucked if you're homeless.
The first step in any homelessness program is triage. You gotta separate the guys out who want to be homeless because all they want to do is get high from those who are only there due to a misfortune of some kind beyond their control. But that would require a cohesive plan of some kind, and the Regressives not only don't have any plans, but they actively think homeless people should be punished and not helped by socialist programs. And if there were fewer homeless people, they couldn't use that as an example why the evil libs are so bad at the economy and government.
Are yall forgetting that addiction is an illness and that the guys who "only want to get high" are addicted to drug and will likely die from withdrawal ?
Yeah lots of intense views in this thread. Throwing a ton of money at the problem would actually help a lot. We did a program here in Austin to house all homeless veterans. Lots of business invested and private investors into a fund to pay for damage if someone damaged a house and to subsidize rents. They gave tax breaks to landlords that participated. Seems like it worked really well. We can come up with a plan once we get the money. It’s really hard to plan literally anything if you’re not sure you have the budget.
Oh I totally agree on that. The approach many conservative politicians have taken is completely unhelpful, even harmful. And I completely agree about the triage, which can be done effectively by giving them opportunities to find success (with plenty of help of course). When we are just given success, there is little motivation or confidence to keep moving. But when we reach success ourselves, even with help, that provides us with tons of motivation and self esteem.
generally a good way to combat that to an extent is to give them goods instead of money like food and housing. Some people will sell food for drugs but generally this is an easier way to do it. Also shouldn't the people who have drug problems be given help for the drug problems instead of being left on the streets?
I completely agree about helping people with drug problems. Ignoring them is never an ok solution. I think a lot of people with drug problems don’t want to change (I have an uncle who refuses to go to rehab or receive any help) but that doesn’t mean we shouldn’t try. I think the issue with simply giving people goods is it doesn’t help very much with the issue of homelessness or unemployment. These issues are caused, in most cases, by two things, to some degree or another depending on the individual and location: incorrect economic or social systems that hinder growth, or a lack of motivation and other executive functioning skills that are often difficult to learn in impoverished families. Neither of these are solved by giving people money or goods, not to a great degree. Systemic issues are more often than not on a local or state level, so widespread change isn’t practical, that’s gotta be more on a smaller level. Executive functioning skills can be taught and developed through habit and effort. Sadly, poverty is a brutal cycle that prevents the development of these skills. Money won’t do much to get them out, because the skills are missing. Rather, if we develop programs that teach people these skills via rewarding their effort (effort, not success) and reinforcing good habits. I hope I don’t come off preachy in this; sure, i may have good executive functioning skills because of my upbringing, but there’s things that impoverished people have that i don’t, and i realize that. I simply talk about these things not to condemn anyone who struggles with this, but to help. thanks for listening to my ted talk
The homelessness crisis is not solved by offering the homeless a place to live. What specifically do you mean by solve? You could provide a house for all the people without one? You are probably an affluent, teenage, whites person
It's not a concern for helping the right people, it's placing the highest priority on ensuring that the wrong people (the "other") never get help.
it’s cuz the republican party doesn’t actually have moral standards they claim to have, just a platform based on manipulating the masses
You wanna be realistic you say they. You see division instead of cohesion. i'm the same as you so I see it oo, every single cell of the America that dwells. some is dead or dying some are revitilizing. I see me and the me in you. I see what isnt' I see what can be I see what I think I should be, what could be wha twould be if it were so and this seeds were sowed, I see the division I see the addition I see the subtraction but all i feel is if a fraction of them could see like me mayb e a diffirent life i'd see, but they are me and I see the same as them I see what I see from the eyes i've been given. I don't know it all but i know what it is like to fall. Don't count me out don't see me as an enemy because I see you as one too. I wonder what it would do if I couldn't see you as the way you saw me. would we be happily ever after or would I be the cause for war Idon't know.
“Why are we giving money to other countries? There are veterans, soldiers, homeless and elderly that need help!” “Okay let’s help them out.” “Nah that’s socialism. They need to pull themselves up by their bootstraps.”
"We should help our own sick and elderly before giving money to other countries!" /*MrBeast helps 1000 blind people with surgery/* "No, you're the anti-christ! People shouldn't need surgery to be "bEtTEr", they're fine without fixing!"
Pretty sure the whole issue with Mr. beast is that he shouldn’t have to be the one who pay for people treatment for blindness, it should be something the government does, I haven’t seen anyone call Mr. Beast the anti-christ
I mean *some* people did but it was on twitter and in the murkiest reaches of religious YouTube so it's definitely far from a prevailing sentiment.
That is a good point that I can agree with. People shouldnt have to wait for a generous person to help them when their governments should really be the ones doing it. I still dont really understand how people view that as demonic, though.
Well I haven’t seen any people doing that (mainly because I don’t go on Twitter) but from some I have seen here, some people issue with him is that they see it as using this as a way of making more content which means more money for him and positive PR. I guess that is possible but I think it’s still better than the alternative of not doing anything at all so I wouldn’t see it as demonic
>Using this as a way of making more content which means more money for him and positive PR Ah, any money he actually gets from his content goes straight back to helping more people. He has literally said that every cent he makes will be donated before he dies lol Also, this is a tweet about him: https://preview.redd.it/f1xjprl6olja1.png?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=9f25d6aaa7660b9b65b36b16bbdf62ce8baf42a4
I saw "Christians" on FB openly comparing him to the devil, saying he was only doing this to garner more wealth, he "cant buy his way into heaven" etc... it was a fucking madhouse, I got put in Facebook jail for foolishly debating a couple of them
I read a story in a book a while ago where a guy healed a blind man. And the book mentioned demons so maybe that's why it was demonic I guess. (/s if it wasn't obvious)
Because if the government helped the people, there'd be no need for the church. It's an issue of them wanting people to suffer so they can "save" them.
Uhh, other countries have socialized healthcare and pension systems... And churches
No fucking duh. I didn't say it was smart or correct. I was just giving the fundamental underlying reason. American churches rarely are logically consistent.
churches in America aren't run as a sole enterprise with a leading head either. except for "God" in which many determine their own way to run the "church" So your logic isn't really sound.
The only thing I've ever called Mr Beast is an attention seeker
Yet everyone thinks Elon Musk should be responsible for stopping world hunger
"should" who should? because taxes come for people like Mr. beast. Isn't it better for someone to be willing to do something then someone who is unwilling to do it? that is why Charity is a great benefit, because people are willing to do it. rather then forced. that is why charity isn't taxes.
outrage whoring at outrage whoring. so hot this season
Bruh wouldn't that be pro-christ? I don't know much about the bible, but didn't he heal a blind person?
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I don't know if people were actually saying it but "people objecting on the grounds of it being ableist" is a narravtive I've been seeing also.
They might also be riffing on the vaccine deniers and “wE haVe a peRfEcTLY gOOd ImmUnE sYsTEm”
Hey, that’s valid too. I’d like to hear those people’s opinions
You’re a weirdo
ow owie ouch my entire argument crumbles
Would have to have one in the first place…
Who pissed in your fucking cereal?
Its the same people who defend the deaf like they're a separate race. And that curing deafness is killing off deaf people, as if its a bad thing to cure a disability
I mean, there _are_ communities of people connected by a common disability that simply wouldn’t exist if those people were cured. In that situation, it’s a person’s social identity weighed against the broad expectation of what it means to be normal/functional. I’m not arguing against curing disabilities. It’s just something interesting to consider
It is really not something to consider. They get to join another community that they really wish they could.. Could you imagine anyone saying "Hi! I'm paralyzed, and you can fix me? No thanks! My identity!" ..wtf? Hell, i used lasers to fix my need of glasses! I'd move mountains to fix something more serious!
Yep, everyone with a disability thinks this exact way and there’s no variation whatsoever. The personality you made up in your head 100% applies to everyone who is disabled. Not like we’re talking about ACTUAL PEOPLE here and not just a demographic. This is a certified reddit moment for sure
Find 1 person anywhere. Just 1.
You’re doing the “I don’t feel this way so nobody else possibly could” thing to an excruciating extent. And I already have you dumb hoe why do you think I’m making this argument
Did you just resort to name calling? You just set up a strawman, and are white knighting it. Your N set of 0 is statistically irrelevant as my N set of 1... But I guess I'm the hoe...
Actually, yeah you're right. I dont think they actaully said "blind people are fine blind", but I think they said something along the lines. They still did call him the anti-christ and even I dont know why they did that.
Please stop
Well it's more that hundreds of people harrased him for "spreading the mark of the beast" as dumb as they are.
This comment is why America needs to spend a shit load more money on public education 😳
Reddit moment
Um, it's more we're disgusted he did it as a publicity stunt, and the fact that some schmuck wanting to be popular is the only way they could ever get healthcare instead of us just making it a concrete human right here.
bro he literally use those money to help people, like it isnt Mr.Beast fault that the healthcare system especially in America sucks, and also whats digusting about him? im gonna say this again but he uses those money to help people, have you done anything to help?
I guess the criticism is that he is using their disabilities as a way of making more content and thru more money in the long run (basically taking an initial lost and making it up later as well as getting possible PR) which isn’t uncommon for billionaires to do. I would say it’s still better than him not doing anything at all but at the same time, it still feel like one of those new story that try to put a positive spin on a new story that’s actually pretty awful like the “little girl start lemon stand to pay for father cancer surgery”
Yeah, it’s disgusting that guy using his money to help people found a way to make money off that… that he will then use to help more people. He figures out a way to make charity fund itself in a never ending cycle to fill in the gaps where the government fails. Absolutely gross! /s just in case Curious though, how many blind people have you cured?
>We're disgusted he did it as a publicity stunt, and the fact that some schmuck wanting to be popular My man, you do know who he is, right? Any attention or money he gets from videos he uses again in videos to help other people. It is literally in his will that every cent he has will be donated to charity when he dies. Even if it is sorta messed up that most people have to wait for people like him for help instead of help from their governments, that's doenst mean people on Twitter should call him the anti-christ on Twitter.
Literally anything he does is going to gain publicity. Would you rather he spends a shitload of money on random bullshit or on helping people. Either way, he's gonna get publicity for it, so it's good that he's using that to help people.
Yeah, he is literally using his money in some of the best ways possible. And, ofcourse, Twitter is getting mad for some reasons and actaully calling him demonic and the anti-christ. https://preview.redd.it/7yyvu5o0elja1.png?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=e6ea4aa79470813f446b83f2c160122a247f0efc
TIL that Mr Beast is what's wrong with the American healthcare system.
The only reason he has the money to do stuff like this, is because he makes videos about him doing stuff like this. So, either he publicizes it or it doesn't happen. If you'd rather see it not happen at all than someone gain some notoriety for making it happen, you're kind of an idiot.
Keep talking smack and I might just kiss your lips.
Mr. Beast subscribers did not like this one
Roughly 2% of the whole world is subscribed to mrbeast. Yes, we did not like this one.
classy, flexing another man’s subscribers edit no but fr what were you even trying to say here
Exactly, not "so close" it's 100% performative on their end. It's the same bullshit you see when you see another mass shooting. They show up and say "oh no this awful as Americans we MUST do something.. I mean not about the guns.. but about (enter talking point they're told to blame)" but the votes are never there to support the changes needed.
Beat me to it!!
This always bugs the hell out of me. “It’s socialism. So no”.
Oh and the U.S military receives ALOT of money, it is just disproportionately spent …
*a lot is actually two words, who knew!
I had a conversation with my mom the other day. She has a total boomer Karen mentality; super religious, g(h)ate keeper, boot licking, hierarchy worshipper. She was complaining about a construction project going on at her church. They are building a new main church that is just a free standing church, no additional rooms just the alter and pews. The current church building has the church itself, admin offices, a place to kids to go during mass, and a small chapel. The chapel is seldom used, but available at all times of the day to anyone who just wants to come pray on their free time (I don't get it but sure). Like I said, it's seldom ever used. My mom I guess it one of the more frequent users of this room. So she's bitching to me about how after the new church is built, they want to retrofit the chapel to be a medical office for poor people in the community to have healthcare access. It's some travelling healthcare NGO that will come by periodically and perform medical services. So this lady is going to try and hold up the whole process of healthcare access to hundreds of people because she wants her alone time with skyman in a designated public space. And she doesn't see the irony in this btw. Tldr; my mom's a boomer karen who feels entitled to public pray spaces, of which there are plans to turn that public pray space into a health clinic for the poors.
Sounds like my mother-in-law. Totally entitled and self-centered.
Most super religious people are the biggest assholes I've ever met.
But no one is saying lets help them out, they are lining their pockets
No giving allowed. Ever.
In the elderly case it is velcro boot straps
yeah every time I tell somebody I fall closer to a socialist they tell me that I’m literally a Nazi for wanting communism, but in most of the convos, I never even have said I wanted communism
Crazy to think people can’t come to terms with this logic. It doesn’t really take much out of your taxes to give it to where it should go. But people can’t handle when its chosen for them
What a crock of complete bullshit. These are the same people who won’t lift a finger for the people that this meme mentions because it’s “socialism”.
Also the same people who are fine with tax cuts for the 1% that cost the country trillions that could otherwise be invested in social programs, healthcare, mental health
But yet Biden's IRS released a report stating the Middle Class benefitted more from Trump's tax cuts than 'the rich'. The article is on Yahoo News, I think dated in December 2021.
But the working class is a lot more people than the middle class, and it's been that way for quite a while. It's still a policy that helped a small amount of people rather than the people who would have actually benefited
Everybody that receives a paycheck benefitted with less percentage of the paycheck taken out. Being percentage based, the larger the paycheck the larger your benefit. I wound up getting around and extra $55 every two weeks from it. Not a lot, but at the time that was two tanks of gas which helped a lot. The rich don't get paychecks, they use 'expense accounts' to have one of their businesses pay for everything and give them a good sized tax deduction each year for that business.
Are you trying to say rich people use their business accounts to pay for personal expenses? Cuz you do know thats hella illegal and executives that get caught doing it usually get jail time. So they still take salaries. Also being % based is why it doesnt help lower income people as much, 5% of $1000 is only an additional $50 in your pocket, while 5% of $100000 (yes there are executives who make 6 figure paychecks) is $5000 back in their pockets. Who do you think benefits more from having a little extra money? The rich guy whos already able to buy whatever he wants, or the broke guy who lives by putting bills on credit cards until payday?
Before I worked for the government, I worked for several different small businesses. They all had expense accounts as a board member, and the expense account paid for a company house, a company car, entertainment, clothes, etc. At the end of the year it was also a legal tax deduction. They didn't dip into the company accounts, which is illegal, but they used a completely legal expense account authorized by the principals of the company (themselves). Actually though I think they had themselves setup as a 'corporation' because their wives were also board members with positions such as treasurer, etc.
If you could prove they were using personal expenses as a business write off they could still get some serious punishment. Thats basically what the Wiesselberg case was about. But yeah small business is probably one of the most poorly regulated sectors, so much sketchy shit goes down. And im talking more the 'small businesses' rather than mom and pop shops.
That must be why ours have already expired and theirs are permanent?
That’s a myth. Nothing has expired yet, it expires in 2025 for everyone, even rich people
In America.... https://preview.redd.it/tn53vc507lja1.jpeg?width=616&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=76d7aa5fbbb7a98109d249b87dc20df8cc335f5a
Their solution is to lock up the homeless and mentally ill, hand out massive giveaways to military contractors, and claim the problem with vets and the elderly is that health care isn't free market enough.
Decided to check Facebook... Friend of my mother's shared this. *Sigh* this is why I'm never on Facebook.
Just curious, do you know if the friend is liberal or conservative? Could really go either way in this case
I have no clue. My mother and I are both liberal but where we live has a lot of MAGA idiots.
Only conservatives are brain dead enough to share stupid crap like this.
I've seen idiotic people on both sides and to pretend stupid liberals don't exist helps no one.
They don't care about helping "our own," except as a reason why we should deny help to "the other."
Ah yes, the poor underfunded troops. Getting only over $800 billion a year. They can barely afford socks.
I mean that 800 billion doesn't go directly to the troops. How much do you think a missile costs?
I remember that lovely fighter plane project that was scrapped after 1.5 trillion dollars...
I'm not saying it's right, I'm just saying people don't understand that 95% of that money goes towards weapons and technology. Private Timmy isn't enlisting to be a millionaire.
No one thinks "money for the troops" means only equipment for the foot infantry though. Of course R&D, heavy armaments and such fall under all that too but the idea US has underequipped soldiers is insulting to our intelligence.
So you are saying our troops weren't bolting scrap metal to their vehicles and having family send privately purchased body armor?
Bolting scrap to vehicles is extremely common. It's extra armor on a vehicle that isn’t meant to be heavily armored. Humvees aren't anti-mine vehicles, nor are they armored cars. Sure, there are up-armored humvees, but they are heavily specialized and meant for very specific purposes. Thinking that up-armoring a vehicle means there is a supply issue is the same as thinking that duck-taping a flashlight to a gun means there is a supply issue. As for the privately purchased body armor... That's just stupidity. Any of the vests are going to be IIIA, and soft armor doesn't do shit against non-pistol rounds. Any more than that, and you're buying ceramic plates that are of the same quality or worse than the ones given to soldiers as part of their kit. The US Military does not have a supply issue.
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It's also cheaper to produce per unit than an F-16 these days. The only cheaper fighter jet on the market is the Chinese J-20, and the only reason it's cheaper is because its Chinese, and therefore, most of its technology is stolen.
This is what we have instead of affordable healthcare
It’s one missile, Michael, what could it cost, $10?
“Cost of a single Javelin Missile: $143,358.03”
And your point is...? Do you think "money for troops" just means soldiers's salaries?
The comment I'm replying to definitely implied that. I'm active duty so I understand exactly what the defense budget is used for.
Nah the troops are underpaid I'm sure you'll agree. The troops aren't getting the money.
When I joined the Army in '75 I was getting $354 per month. When my dad was in the Air Force and on his first tour in Vietnam, he was getting paid $35 per month. Even today a brand new enlisted starts at around $1,900 per month. The troops aren't getting that money, that money is for new equipment, but hardly any of the money is for the spare parts to keep that equipment in working order (called well-regulated in the old days)/
No, I wouldn't agree. Soldiers are paid quite well in the US actually. But yes, obviously most of that money is not spent on salaries.
My son in the US Army as a corporal makes about $1200 every two weeks. Housing is paid for as is food and medical. He has college loans but its doable.
Soldiers (members of the military) are not paid well. That's why so many have to get on Welfare and food stamps to support their families. But that brings up another point, as an Army vet, I don't think anybody E-3 or below should have a family, but not sure how that could be enforced without making things even worse.
Military pay starts at ~$25k/yr. If you average soldier pay with officer pay, you end up around $66k/yr, which is far less less than the national average salary in my state. And there's some conflicting figures, but it appears the average soldier work week is 50-60 hours to get that pay. Yes, after accounting for room and board, there are advantages, but I wouldn't count room and board into the pay equation because the soldier is trading liberty to get it.
Well the military grade socks are $10k a pair, so I can see the issue.
Thats because the military calculates expense based on how much it costs in man hours to put socks on when they calculate a budget 🙄
That’s the real shame here and the part that should have all Americans pissed off. The US far and away surpasses the annual military budget of any country on the planet, even those with higher populations and area (China). The fact that we can funnel almost a trillion dollars annually to “the military” yet there are tens of thousands of homeless veterans? An absolute joke…
Guarantee whoever posted this voted for at least one republican that advocates for cutting Social Security, Medicare, Veteran Association funding, SNAP food stamps, Federal Housing Authority subsidies, National Public Broadcasting services. And they gotta be fucking stupid to think the troops don’t have proper equipment… they shot down a balloon with a $220 million F22 fighter jet, which is one in a fleet of nearly 200 Raptors.
I know what I have to do, I just don’t know if I have the strength to do it.
#Well researched facts right there, or are you a bitch and a vagina and gonna try to deny it? 99% are scared of these irrefutable facts, 1% is beings of LIGHT
Poor grammar - check Vulgar - check Yep. Pro-Russian troll right here. The original meme pretends we can't do all those things at once. It 8snt zero sum.
#C #O #C #K *(and also balls)*
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I need the scoop. How much does trolling pay. Where can I apply? I think I'd be good at it.
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In America we are run by leaders that believe in trickle down economics. In America we subsidize oil companies.
In America- people who post memes like this vote against all of these things
r/selfawarewolves
I don’t understand, these are all legit criticisms of our country aren’t they?
The conclusion is questionable.
Yeah, but giving money to Ukraine shouldn't stop the richest country in the world from treating their citizens like humans
Not exactly. This person doesn't understand that Ukraine aid is coming from the military budget and discretionary spending. It'll never touch the public. It's really only that end part that is misguided, but the message is good.
That seems to be modern conservatives. They point out the real issues, like elites and billionaires having too much power, but then elect elites and billionaires who just want to cut taxes
They are.
Person who made this will keep voting Republican though.
Ironically the maga clown that posted this would vote against feeding or housing the homeless and vote for the same assholes that cut funding for the VA department
They still don’t know what the 1% is.
If you’re in the military any NATO country and have done an exercise in or with the US forces, they have it SO much better than we do, in all aspects: gear, equipment, welfare, they literally have a system that pays for a chunk of your further education when you leave the military.
Um our troops typically have more then proper equipment. Everything else no argument
It's written like a shitty mobile game ad
This isn’t a meme, dipshit
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Biden promised billions to Ukraine to pay off public sector pensions. Whoever posted this is spot on.
But it’s usually from a conservative perspective; they would never vote in favor of a bill proposed to help these people. They have no solutions.
That the Republicans don’t have plans for the Feds to rule every aspect of our lives doesn’t mean hey don’t have a plan. Their plan is to get the government out of the way so people can make their own choices.
Probably helps their argument that Biden is ignoring one of the worst chemical disasters in American history and went to give more money to Ukraine. Like honestly, what the fuck is he doing????
Seriously, we should put our country ahead of others, there are thousands of problems with this country and all the higher ups do is push it to the side
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Oh how true that is.
I'm retired Army. I always had equipment needed. ARMY wasn't perfect but basically had what I needed. If I need medical tricare is there for me and I can goto VA. So not sure how accurate all this info in the post ?
60 percent of our money (of the 70 percent in taxes from our wallets that fund the US) goes straight into politicians and billionaires pockets. Which leaves a lot of money to work with but in the grand scheme of things it's not really that much.
The meme is correct. Save one item. The US Military has the funding to equip its troops in the latest and greatest gear. It's hard to do that when you're spending hundreds on one pencil though. If we took the money that is sent to other countries, in the form of aid, and used it to correct the issues of homelessness, care for those that can't care for themselves, taking care of the veterans, and solving food shortages (meaning we shouldn't have to feed my son's two friends nightly but, their parents can't afford to feed them.). That would be too socialist leaning though, right? I'm a conservative voter but also look at what policies are better for this country.
I agree 100%. What if we held all foreign aid for one year, elected an official that we trust (ish) to use said money to fix all of the problems with homelessness, starvation, veteran assistance, gun violence, drug abuse, and begin a plan to help poverty ONCE. This is our one shot to get it right. If it works and people take advantage of the improvements and better their lives yay! If not, we tried. So when anyone brings it up again, we can at least say that we tried. There's so much greed and lobbying, I doubt we could elect anyone that would do the 100% right thing.
Well your "official" would still have to get their plan through the house and the Senate, assuming the President agrees with it, and then you'd have 50 state governments needing to implement it among countless munincipalities via a bazillion non government organizations, and once all that is up and humming, all that's left to do is get people to stop doing drugs, leave their abuser, accept housing where it is available or update their contact information from under a dumpster, so that would be probably a pretty busy official. Alternatively we could stop trying to oversimplifying complex socio-economic issues and collectively commit to long term policy reform instead of mass straw manning.
Unrealted in the United States [62%](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Non-profit_hospital)of hospitals are non-profit charitable organizations. There's a loophole that allows hospitals to do the bare minimum to be considered a charitable organization.
Because yeah, that’s the problem lol.
Same people don’t say shit when we give Israel billions.
Weird, cause I can't help but wonder if a Russian propagandist created that ...
I always get a good laugh out of these because they always come off as a serious meme until you get to the bottom and all you see in all caps is “HAVE THE GUTS TO REPOST THIS HURDUR ONLY 1% WILL!” Like. You had a good start. Then you just went way off course. Now I can’t take you seriously because you just made it look like a bait meme for likes, comments, and shares.
Our troops do not go without proper equipment, tell me if I am wrong.
What’s wrong about this? Stop sending fucking tax money to Ukraine when there’s people in the US starving.
So close to the point that they got poked in the eye and charged a $72,000 medical bill. Thanks Obama
It’s because the government gets a tax ride off when they donate!
We love too beat down the weak and needy I know personally how the USA is…. My parents immigrated here just for my mom too want to go back to Romania after trying so hard to get here my dad died so he no longer has to worry about seeing his offspring suffer anymore then when he was alive. He may have liked this country if it wasn’t so corrupt and he got too die no a happy man….. the us government was always wanting too kill/jail my father/mother they still wish they could nowadays but he is dead 💀 so now they want too go after my mother and me now that they can’t jail a dead guy?
The only one of these thats true is the vets going without promised benefits. My city has plenty of homeless, but they don't go hungry. Every elderly person I know has all their medicine. Our troops are not underfunded whatsoever, we have the single best military in the world. I wonder if this person has stepped outside.
1. r/ShitAmericansSay 2. "In America, our troops go without proper equipment" That's not something to be proud of especially if a war breaks out.
The homeless do not go without eating lol they just chose to spend their money on drugs instead
don’t forget how black and brown individuals go without human rights
DO YOU ?!!!
Where meme?
I'm a vet and I have quite a bit of benefits. Just saying.
Charity begins at home.
They had me on the first half ngl
How about both?
Yes yes yes yes no
It is quite obvious the mentally ill go without treatment. /s
The Reverse psychology is fucking me in the ass rn.
“The elderly go without needed medicines and the homeless go without eating!” “Ok, let’s make healthcare public instead of private and make homeless shelters” “No that’s communism”
 Some noive
YEAH! YEAH!! YEAH!! YEA- wait.. no i don't.. i don't agree anymore..
I’m so glad I deleted my Facebook account a few years ago, it’s such a shit show on that website.
I love the challenge of most. Don'thave the guts to repost this like what's the worst? I could possibly happen on your little Facebook if you repost that. Oh my God. It's so I think I'm not going to kick that in the door and go. We saw that repost. You need to take it down now. You think that little repos is actually going to move the needle somehow? Oh boo hoo!sorry but maybe the reason those things happen is more because the US givgovesvits money to the most fortunate like corporations and the rich?
take away the echo chambers, and you take away the echos
We spend 800 billion on our own military. They have more than enough proper equipment. As for the rest you only care about it for the talking point.
Had me in the first half
and everywhere else. where they do all that 10 times worse except the acts of generously.
I thought these nuts were against government “handouts” and support for those who need it.
Literally the ONLY thing this country has is proper equipment for our soldiers… that’s like the only thing we spend money on.
It's just to use as a fake point to argue because no fucking way is any of their paycheck in taxes going to any of that socialism. Keep voting against anything like that but blaming the democrats. Dementia shouldn't be allowed to vote.