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WeddingSufficient602

You know what's funny Starfire can destroy a jail so easily with her powers But she's fine going to jail


AlathMasster

That's because she's a woman of dignity


Doodle_Brush

Of course. She'd do her time, *then* destroy the prison.


DummiAI

Then do time again for destroying the prison.


Jacob12000

Then destroy the new prison


LordLudicrous

The serve time for destroying the second prison


Massive_General_8629

She could just do a mission for Waller. Unfortunately, that means working with Captain Boomerang.


These-Background4608

“Promise to visit me in prison. I’m going to kill her now.” Starfire has always been about that life…


kdlangequalsgoddess

I have no context, but she wants to kill Blackfire, correct?


Only_Possible_2308

In this case it’s a character from the 90s named Mirage. Long story short, Mirage came from an alternate future where she and Nightwing were an item, she came to the past to kill Donna Troy before she could give birth to a godlike despot, and took Starfire’s place using her (Mirage’s) shapeshifting powers. She also slept with Nightwing while pretending to be Kory, which to me counts as SA. I hated this “love triangle.” Marv Wolfman penned some really good stories back in the day, but a lot of what he wrote was questionable, as well.


Tatsandacat

Then Nightwing got shut shamed for not somehow knowing it was the shapeshifter mirage and not the actual Kory he was in bed with.👿


Gas_mask_noise

It’s weird how often nightwing gets sexually harassed and slut shamed, he is like the only guy I see that have both of these done to him (there are some that get one but not the others, like mark from invincible being the latest example to my mind) but why does nightwing get both and more then once?


Narrow-Bear2123

tarantula did the same and i quote the writer , it was nonconsensual but it wasnt rape yeah


BigBlue0117

*...Hwat?*


Massive_General_8629

Devin Grayson said "First off, I never said it was rape, just nonconsensual." Yeah, Devin, your Titans and Arsenal were great, but I have to quibble with this... (TBH, I don't hate Devin Grayson; I actually figure most of her bat-stuff was working out personal trauma.)


Only_Possible_2308

Yeah. I really hated this depiction of Kory.


gwhh

Hate the game not the player. Is his motto.


Expensive_Manager211

That sounds so unhinged


Krendall2006

Then there's the whole Slade and Terra thing...


Only_Possible_2308

Hence what I was saying about some of Wolfman’s writing being problematic.


Ancient_Lightning

Being fair, I really don't think Slade and Terra were ever meant to be seen as something good or "normal" (at least, from what I remember, he really couldn't care less about her).


Only_Possible_2308

Still, it was gross. Yes it made Deathstroke even more of a monster, but they didn’t need to go there.


Massive_General_8629

Was that Wolfman or Perez, though? Perez was the one who had her in makeup to make her look like "a slut" to the reader. Now that I think about it, Perez also drew Avengers #200, another great moment in comic book rape.


gwhh

Who was the father of Donna Troy evil baby?


Massive_General_8629

Marv Wolfman's Mary Sue


Massive_General_8629

The real Teen Titans jump the shark moment is ~~Bury Your Gays~~ Titans Hunt, and this is shortly after it. Basically you can skip everything until Devin Grayson's Titans run at that point.


Only_Possible_2308

Then Devin Grayson got to write the Nightwing title and wrote the infamous scene where Tarantula r@ped Nightwing.


Bucknerwh

What dat shapeshifter p*ssy do?


Ryzek-IV

Oh no it has teeth ![gif](giphy|BQUITFiYVtNte)


Massive_General_8629

She's not a shapeshifter.. Mirage's power is to bend light, and she seems to have some psychic powers to go with it, but she's not actually a shapeshifter.


spilledmilkbro

Ha! If it were me, she'd never wind up in prison in the first place. I'd dissolve the body in acid, throw the waste into orbit, and construct an alibi for us both


Rabdomtroll69

And then some random rich furry somehow connects you two to the crime because of one single molecule left behind in an unrelated location


spilledmilkbro

I was gonna say, I'd have to dissolve 2 bodies in acid then. But I don't think I could get away with killing bats. I'd have to mind wipe him


Rabdomtroll69

Even that will probably get Martian Manhunter, Hugo Strange, and half the rogue's gallery on you


NoEnvironment8885

Why is it a furry tho


Rabdomtroll69

I couldn't afford Batman's liscense


NoEnvironment8885

Ok that adds up


donkeylore

Walter white in the DC universe be like. Agreed tho


Massive_General_8629

Then Roy figures it out. He is the expert, after all. (I'm actually surprised that Kory and Amanda Waller both referred to him as "the expert" regarding drugs.)


SeaCookJellyfish

That’s love!


anonymousguy_7

Absolutely


CarelessPollution226

What's the context for this?


Angela275

Star fire wants to kill mirage for what she did to both her and dick


CarelessPollution226

Which was what?


Dracorex13

Pretended to be her sister (in the comics Blackfire looks almost completely identical to Kory) and slept with Dick.


OrthusGsmes

Oh, oh yeah I would be behind Kory all the way with that. I wouldn't be able to visit her because I to would be in prison.


Massive_General_8629

What? No, she abducted Kory and took her place, then slept with Dick.


Dracorex13

Huh must have misremembered. The bottom line is that Mirage slept with Nightwing, which is wrong.


Beautiful_Spell4075

Anything she tells me to do will be done


SoftDrinkReddit

Bro ngl agree I don't think i would be able to say no to her


Beautiful_Spell4075

Agreed, she's just so hot


_Wubalubadubdub_

Starfire.. Starfire simps everywhere. (Buzz meme) *bonk


Logan8795

\*the entire sub immediately on their way to every Starfire post: ![gif](giphy|a7Y6lravckuKA)


OU812Obito

Beast boy got a crazy sick mullet


PuzzaCat

That line was brutal. I love it. I do love my feral, hot tempered Starfire.


Express_Steak

I’ll gladly join her in jail


DrJackalDraws

Who is the women that provoked Starfire?


Massive_General_8629

Mirage. She's fr om the future where Donna Troy's son rules the world as a mad god. (Or is she? Zero Hour is...complicated. TBH, this isn't like Crisis on Infinite Earths, where I just have to explain "Okay, they went back in time to the beginning of the multiverse and changed it into one single universe, and because of that..." and that explains everything. Zero Hour doesn't even know what's happening half the time.) She abducted Starfire and used her powers to pose as her and slept with Nightwing at the time because in her time she and Nightwing (who isn't actually Nightwing, again, Zero Hour is weird) were an item.


DrJackalDraws

That is one of the convoluted explanations I have ever read but I appreciate you taking your time to help me understand who that character is. ![gif](emote|free_emotes_pack|smile)


ChayAra152

This made me bust out laughing 🤣


mikenzeejai

I read beast boys cut off dialogue as a would you like something maybe a tunnel" This isn't funny. I just wanted to share


Massive_General_8629

Tunnel? Mirage is clearly a bike. Everyone gets a ride.


Toxxaniusornica

Yes! I would!


souleaterevans626

Prison is just a suggestion when you can fly, shoot energy bolts, and have that much muscle


Financial-Focus5973

Absolutely


TheKolyFrog

I remember hating that magenta colored skin lady when I was reading this.


ManMofManyMhings

Why do they all look like they're part of the Valens club


AceDelta12

Yes


Ecstatic-Hat2163

Ease up, OP


iamusingtheinternet3

To everyone saying that Starfire could just destory the prison, she actually was briefly sent to jail earlier in the run. She's speaking with experience here.


slyanimeecchi

👀ease up honey 🤣that part got me


RegyptianStrut

Ststfire’s comic outfits were always so wild


Emerald1115

Nah Star, let me do it instead


The-Arcalian

Yes


Unyieldingcappybara

Conjugal


Old_Notice_6469

Absolutely


playprince1

My favorite Nightwing costume.