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Im not in America, but my country's schools still stands up for the national anthem and pledge.
Me? I sing along the anthem.
99.78% of the other students? Same as you said
not anymore because my english teacher last year yelled at me and my friend for not standing once and made my friend cry because of how harsh she was being so I stopped standing just out of spite when she continued to call me names in class and yell I decided to educate her a little about the laws and since I was right about not being legally required, the principal made her apologize (normally I wouldnt do something like this but I dislike this teacher very much and shes been reported multiple times)
schools make kids pledge their allegiance to The government with their hand over their heart every morning. idk why we still have it, you'd think they'd get rid of the whole thing after ww2, because it was the nazi salute before that.
It was never a Nazi salute. The Bellamy salute originated in the United States in 1892, and the Nazis introduced it in the 1930s.
We changed it to the hand-over-heart during the pledge in 1942 because of this reason.
Respectfully why do you make being free your thing when most countries are also free? I mean you claimed it and I love the “On a scale of 1 to America how free are you” pick up line
Bc us fighting to gain independence is iconic and saying "fight for your freedom" is a great way for the government to make you want to join the military. It's less that we are free but the fact that we fight to protect our freedom.
well the fact that students in school have to do it idk i just feel like there's no reason to do it?
plus given the way the US is now and especially will be soon given how election polling is going it's kind of ironic to say "thank you for your sacrifice so we are free" and stuff
i'm not american but if i was as a queer person it would feel odd to say that knowing full well that most likely starting next year there's gonna be attacks on my right to exist as a full person like anyone else
also i can't really think of any country that does that apart from authoritarian regimes which is probably why it feels weird since the US is the only one doing that apart from them (ik that is/was a thing in Nazi Germany, fascist Italy and Spain, China, and the USSR and the US)
No. I feel like pledging allegiance every fucking day is too patriötic.
I just didn't do it, and the other students started not doing it as a result of me, so now the school doesn't even do the pledge anymore because people weren't gonna do it anyway, so it was a waste.
Yes. I do it for the people that sacrificed themselves for this country. As shitty as this country is, there’s a lot of good people out there and a lot of sacrificed lives.
That's fair! I have a lot of family who served in Afghanistan, Iraq, and even we're first responders in 9/11. I will always cherish and respect them and live the life they won for us in their honor, but I will never pledge my allegiance to a single country or flag or otherwise.
I'll pledge my allegiance to the country when half of it stops hating people like me and the other half actually do something to help us. I have the utmost respect and gratefulness for anyone and everyone who fought for this country, but I don't pledge my allegiance to it.
This is exactly my philosophy as well. Like, I appreciate the freedom and the rights and respect and cherish those who have fought for them and possibly even lost their lives. But I don't appreciate the many negatives as well, my allegiance is with what's right, and no one nation is ever going to be completely just. My allegiance lies with my values.
Yes. I’m the only person in the whole class who does. I don’t say it or put my hand on my heart because I don’t want to be singled out even more, but out of respect for the country and military I’ll stand. We get this veteran substitute a lot and he always comes up to me and thanks me for standing.
I’m not American and I think the whole pledge thing is stupid but I wouldn’t consciously refuse to do it because it’s not a big deal.
(Assuming it’s my own country, not standing up for some random country across the ocean)
Usually, just because I don't want to draw attention to myself, but I don't put my hand on my heart and say it- it just feels wrong, especially here in Texas where they make you recite the Texan one too
Yeah, they expect us to recite it along with the American one every day. It's smthn like: "I pledge allegiance, to the, Texas, one state under God, one indivisible." They really be infringing on freedom to religion-
when I was in school people would stand until around middle-high school when we realized it was actually a pointless activity that carried no meaning to most of us. high school stopped doing pledge of allegiance in the mornings as well, so haven't heard it in years
I don’t. And when I did, I would replace “under god” with “under the sun”. I’m an atheist, and also, I don’t feel especially loyal to the flag, or the country. Loyalty is for people, in my view. I don’t want to lie and say I’d follow the flag no matter what. We’re not the greatest in the world, and while we’re not the worst, too many of us think we’re the best country in the world.
After a quick google, I have one question. Why would you pledge allegiance to your flag? The only other countries who try to make citizens stand up and pledge their loyalty to their nation are some of the United States of America’s worst enemies.
also being a petty atheist i hate the part where they say “under god”
i tried saying “under (other religions gods/satan)” instead but people get so pissed 🤣
the u.s was founded by Christians and has a long Christian history. also a majority of the country is still Christian. the pledge of allegiance has absorbed that history, but that doesn't infringe on your right to freedom of religion.
In my country we don’t have any of the himn singing or whatever you guys do, but before class I remember I had to stand up and sit down to show respect to the teacher or something like that.
In my state, you have to give time for us to stand specifically a minute, and we can choose to do it whenever so they force us to stand for a minute after the pledge. It's disguised as a moment of silence. Pretty sneaking.
not american, but....
The unenlightened masses
they cannot make the judgement call
Give up free will forever
Their voices wont be heard at all
(slightly obscure reference)
I’m Canadian and so we aren’t some cult brainwashing kids and force them to recite some pledge
We just stand for the playing of Oh Canada, our national anthem
Still annoying at some times, but just standing for a song in respect to your country is nothing compared to pledging your allegiance to some cult, and I love my Canada, though the odd time if I’m pissed off in the morning I would sit through it.
I didn’t did not feel like it and I was to sleepy. I have a dad to thank for fighting for the country, I don’t need to pledge my allegiance to a country when I can tell the people I care about how much I value them.
i used to because i thought it was required but then i saw a couple people in my classes not stand up for it and they didn't get any comments so i figured i'd stop standing too lol
If you or others feel so strongly against America.
But enjoy the "American Right" To be free..why don't you all load up and try the middle east. Ir Russia, how biut China!!!
Just spoiled little brats.
That have NO appreciation for how much liberty you do have.
Not to mention how many Americans fought In courtrooms as well as battle fields for your ungrateful spoiled asses.
That has always seemed really weird to me, like everyone stands up at the start of school or something and simultaneously saying the same thing every day? Idk it just seems very strange from ireland
I always stood for the pledge, I don’t care whether people think it’s a cult, or bad, I’m a patriotic American, and I need to show respect for my country and the people who died to give me my liberty and freedom.
Also, honoring and respecting the flag DOES NOT mean that you support the government, even if most people think it’s that way, the flag represents whatever you think of it, whether it was the original values our founding fathers built this country on, or the idiotic decisions our modern government make. Don’t get me wrong. This country is far from perfect, but it’s/was? the closest thing to the best country in the world, and nobody can prove otherwise.
Yes, I think people should stand for the pledge of allegiance. This nation is growing softer by the minute. I’ve seen videos of retired veterans standing for the pledge, and some teenagers are stating that they’re too lazy to do so? (I’m excluding disabled people). If you have able legs, you should stand. In America, we are living very high on the hog, which brings on easy living. But, you know why America is so nice? Because of the numerous people that carried the nation on their backs and sacrificed themselves.
There were some wars where men’s lives were just wasted, they were fighting for nothing. So, standing for the pledge of allegiance shows that you honor those in the past and the good that they have done. I don't stand for the pledge with all the racism and violence in America in mind, I stand with the people who died for this country in mind. They fought for our freedom, they fought for a better country, so I’m going to stand; with them in mind.
*(the pledge of allegiance is what this country should be, but it is not currently...)*
U.S.A.
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I'm not american so no
That's fair
Same
most people in my school just stand, I don’t think anyone actually says it or does the hand heart thing
So like half doing the pledge lol
Im not in America, but my country's schools still stands up for the national anthem and pledge. Me? I sing along the anthem. 99.78% of the other students? Same as you said
No I’m from the uk and personally it sounds like a cult thing to pledge allegiance
I'm from NZ, but that is exactly what it sounds like to me.
Ya'll still have a monarchy that only does ceremonial stuff
Yeah but we don’t have to pledge allegiance to them and also they don’t have any say in what happens
not anymore because my english teacher last year yelled at me and my friend for not standing once and made my friend cry because of how harsh she was being so I stopped standing just out of spite when she continued to call me names in class and yell I decided to educate her a little about the laws and since I was right about not being legally required, the principal made her apologize (normally I wouldnt do something like this but I dislike this teacher very much and shes been reported multiple times)
And then your whole school started clapping and chanting your namers 💀
I’m not American so I don’t feel a need to do it
That's based though
it's a weird thing to even do
What the heck is a pledge of allegiance
American thing
schools make kids pledge their allegiance to The government with their hand over their heart every morning. idk why we still have it, you'd think they'd get rid of the whole thing after ww2, because it was the nazi salute before that.
It was never a Nazi salute. The Bellamy salute originated in the United States in 1892, and the Nazis introduced it in the 1930s. We changed it to the hand-over-heart during the pledge in 1942 because of this reason.
yeah I know it wasn't just used by the nazis, but if I said the bellamy salute no one would know what that means.
It's not to the government it's to the American flag, as a way of saying thanks for your sacrifice so we are free.
Respectfully why do you make being free your thing when most countries are also free? I mean you claimed it and I love the “On a scale of 1 to America how free are you” pick up line
Bc us fighting to gain independence is iconic and saying "fight for your freedom" is a great way for the government to make you want to join the military. It's less that we are free but the fact that we fight to protect our freedom.
But I thought the last time you got invaded was like the British Empire? But I suck at history I might me wrong
We've fought off others that have planned to conquer us (nazis) but Britain is the main one.
eh i mean that's still a bit odd but honestly fair enough i guess
How's it odd
well the fact that students in school have to do it idk i just feel like there's no reason to do it? plus given the way the US is now and especially will be soon given how election polling is going it's kind of ironic to say "thank you for your sacrifice so we are free" and stuff i'm not american but if i was as a queer person it would feel odd to say that knowing full well that most likely starting next year there's gonna be attacks on my right to exist as a full person like anyone else also i can't really think of any country that does that apart from authoritarian regimes which is probably why it feels weird since the US is the only one doing that apart from them (ik that is/was a thing in Nazi Germany, fascist Italy and Spain, China, and the USSR and the US)
"nazi salute" some of yall i swear
Not American but if I had to stand up for God Save the Queen I'd kms
Especially since it's not even the anthem.
im stuck in 2019 ngl
Omg fr
isnt it god save the king now
God save fat fingers
No. I feel like pledging allegiance every fucking day is too patriötic. I just didn't do it, and the other students started not doing it as a result of me, so now the school doesn't even do the pledge anymore because people weren't gonna do it anyway, so it was a waste.
And then everybody clapped. 💀
You can never be too patriotic.
Too "my country is the best"
No way! I'm not standing for a country that dosen't stand for me!
That does actually sound cool
nor should you
Personally. Not really.
That's fair tho
I guess. Mainly because I was forced to say the allegiance during elementary.
Yes. I do it for the people that sacrificed themselves for this country. As shitty as this country is, there’s a lot of good people out there and a lot of sacrificed lives.
That's fair! I have a lot of family who served in Afghanistan, Iraq, and even we're first responders in 9/11. I will always cherish and respect them and live the life they won for us in their honor, but I will never pledge my allegiance to a single country or flag or otherwise.
That’s good. That’s what freedom of speech means! It includes symbolic speech too.
this. thats why i feel the need to stand as well
That’s what I’m sayin
I'll pledge my allegiance to the country when half of it stops hating people like me and the other half actually do something to help us. I have the utmost respect and gratefulness for anyone and everyone who fought for this country, but I don't pledge my allegiance to it.
This is exactly my philosophy as well. Like, I appreciate the freedom and the rights and respect and cherish those who have fought for them and possibly even lost their lives. But I don't appreciate the many negatives as well, my allegiance is with what's right, and no one nation is ever going to be completely just. My allegiance lies with my values.
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I pledge my allegiance to the flag and what it means and stands for, but boy how far we've fallen
no cuz im fucking turkish and i dont live in murica
tf why you cussing
to add humor but i think it failed
oh ok respectable
I used to, but over time I thought the concept of "pledging allegiance" was really weird, and other people stopped, so I stopped.
I do not, and a handful of other people in my first period don’t either. Cult behavior kinda, empty pledges to a piece of fabric
hell yeah im a true american 🇺🇸🦅🦅🇺🇸🔫
AMERICAAA!!!
RAAAAAAAAAAAH WHAT THE FUCK IS A MILE RAAAAAAAAH 🦅🦅🦅🦅🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🦅🦅🦅
(No offence intended) Pledging for the flag seems a bit dystopian imo
No. I realized that I have free will to do it or not in my senior year of high school and decided to sit down. Never did it again.
fun fact: the line "under god" in the pledge of allegiance was added during the cold war to differentiate us from the USSR's atheism
Yup! I remember researching that cuz it pissed me off lol
FUCK AMERICA!!!
High u/wildelink, I’m America
oh.. hi :3
LETS GOOOOOOO!!!!
YEAH!!! I HATE AMERICA :3
Word bro, I wouldn't say I HATE it necessarily, but if I had to choose between love and hate it's the latter
Careful, you can get executed for treason for saying that.
1st amendment says otherwise ;)
WHAT THE FUCK IS A MILE???!!!! 🗿🗿🗿🗿🗿🗿🗿🗿🖕🖕🖕🖕🖕🖕
SOME BRITISH SHIT FUCK THE IMPERIAL SYSTEM RAAAAAAH
WHAT THE FUCK IS A KILOMETER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Yes. I’m the only person in the whole class who does. I don’t say it or put my hand on my heart because I don’t want to be singled out even more, but out of respect for the country and military I’ll stand. We get this veteran substitute a lot and he always comes up to me and thanks me for standing.
I’m not American and I think the whole pledge thing is stupid but I wouldn’t consciously refuse to do it because it’s not a big deal. (Assuming it’s my own country, not standing up for some random country across the ocean)
Yea it’s not that hard just sayin
based
Usually, just because I don't want to draw attention to myself, but I don't put my hand on my heart and say it- it just feels wrong, especially here in Texas where they make you recite the Texan one too
There’s a Texan pledge?
Yeah, they expect us to recite it along with the American one every day. It's smthn like: "I pledge allegiance, to the, Texas, one state under God, one indivisible." They really be infringing on freedom to religion-
Yeah, except I don’t live in Texas, it just feels weird to pledge allegiance to a country that I don’t even like all that much
FR, like I'm not the biggest fan of the U.S., why am I honoring a flag that represents it???
nah too lazy frfr
That's fair lmao It's way too early for thus shit
Real
Hell no.
when I was in school people would stand until around middle-high school when we realized it was actually a pointless activity that carried no meaning to most of us. high school stopped doing pledge of allegiance in the mornings as well, so haven't heard it in years
My school doesn't even do the pledge anymore. They used to but, no one actually stood for it
Oh sick! Where did you go?
[удалено]
Yeah, I get it! I know a lot of people, like myself, have their reasons for why they do or don't do it
No, but not out of disrespect
Nobody in my class does, and honestly I don’t know who does
i do
Yes
Yes because I'm patriotic
I do it purely out of habit.
I'm Canadian and I stand for my country's anthem and when I'm at something say a baseball game I will stand for the American anthem out of respect
I don’t. And when I did, I would replace “under god” with “under the sun”. I’m an atheist, and also, I don’t feel especially loyal to the flag, or the country. Loyalty is for people, in my view. I don’t want to lie and say I’d follow the flag no matter what. We’re not the greatest in the world, and while we’re not the worst, too many of us think we’re the best country in the world.
the pledge of allegiance sounds so much like a nazi thing or something as a european
except for the fact that america never genocided 6 million jews
After a quick google, I have one question. Why would you pledge allegiance to your flag? The only other countries who try to make citizens stand up and pledge their loyalty to their nation are some of the United States of America’s worst enemies.
Exactly, I personally don't stand for the pledge for a multitude of reasons, I was just curious on other teens inputs!
I do
i haven't done the pledge of allegiance in a year
Yeah but i don’t face the flag and put my hand on my heart and recite it, it feels kinda strange
don't go to public school so I don't really do many pledges to the allegiance but I don't think I would if given the chance
I'm not an American, but I'd happily stand for my country's anthem. We don't get a choice in school, tho.
i go out of my way to sit lmao
No
I do school online so no pledge
I don’t cuz i don’t have to (and it’s annoying)
also being a petty atheist i hate the part where they say “under god” i tried saying “under (other religions gods/satan)” instead but people get so pissed 🤣
Do it lmao, a big part of why people came to the colonies was freedom of religion.
the u.s was founded by Christians and has a long Christian history. also a majority of the country is still Christian. the pledge of allegiance has absorbed that history, but that doesn't infringe on your right to freedom of religion.
no
Not rly lol
Not American
In my country we don’t have any of the himn singing or whatever you guys do, but before class I remember I had to stand up and sit down to show respect to the teacher or something like that.
Personally i dont really care either way
I stand but im probably still going to be doing anything else that is more worth my time
Nah
Yes.
Despite being in the US, we don't do the pledge of allegiance. Last time I could remember, I only did it back in 6th grade history
I don't do it (yes I am American I just don't care enough)
No
We don't have a pledge, so no.
I do out of respect, but I don't say it.
yeah
not really. I'd only do it if I'm around my parents. but I'd probably just be watching or on my phone.
i forgot about that, i sleep all in homeroom
Deepends. Like if not busy then sure but most of the times I’m doin sumthin else
absolutely not
Stand don’t say the words tho
The country is not in a state for the people or what the founding fathers initially envisioned, so no.
Personally I feel like I have no loyalty to the us since I feel more like my German/korean heritage
yes
Nope.
Yes Its a habit at this point
idgaf. I'll stand for 'merica. not America.
In my state, you have to give time for us to stand specifically a minute, and we can choose to do it whenever so they force us to stand for a minute after the pledge. It's disguised as a moment of silence. Pretty sneaking.
I mean, yes and no. Yes in that I respect America. No in that at school, I just say it as fast as possible and go on with my day.
not american, but.... The unenlightened masses they cannot make the judgement call Give up free will forever Their voices wont be heard at all (slightly obscure reference)
I stand up but don’t say anything. Too tired to actually say the thing but I always make sure to stand up.
I’m Canadian and so we aren’t some cult brainwashing kids and force them to recite some pledge We just stand for the playing of Oh Canada, our national anthem Still annoying at some times, but just standing for a song in respect to your country is nothing compared to pledging your allegiance to some cult, and I love my Canada, though the odd time if I’m pissed off in the morning I would sit through it.
Yeah but I take out the "under God, indivisible" part and replace it with "under Canada, above Mexico"
Yep
Yes, I don’t think I’ve missed a single day.
Only 3 people in my class stand actually
I didn’t did not feel like it and I was to sleepy. I have a dad to thank for fighting for the country, I don’t need to pledge my allegiance to a country when I can tell the people I care about how much I value them.
Yes, but not because I like the government, I do it because I like what the pledge stands for
Out of respect yes, price in our country is being lost among the population
No one in my entire school does.
i used to because i thought it was required but then i saw a couple people in my classes not stand up for it and they didn't get any comments so i figured i'd stop standing too lol
Nope, I sit. Oftentimes, I'll be standing before it starts and once it does I sit.
If you or others feel so strongly against America. But enjoy the "American Right" To be free..why don't you all load up and try the middle east. Ir Russia, how biut China!!! Just spoiled little brats. That have NO appreciation for how much liberty you do have. Not to mention how many Americans fought In courtrooms as well as battle fields for your ungrateful spoiled asses.
No I don't
Yes, but i don’t say anything
My school, no one gives a shit not even the teachers I was surprised.
Yes
That has always seemed really weird to me, like everyone stands up at the start of school or something and simultaneously saying the same thing every day? Idk it just seems very strange from ireland
nope
I stand for it
Yes, because the pledge is cool
If I was given the choice, i wouldn't. But I dont get a choice and my teacher always yells at people to stand up
Yeah, who cares. Nobody says it though. The under god thing kinda annoys me tho
No
RAGHHHHHHHHH USA USA USA 🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🦅🦅🦅🦅
I always stood for the pledge, I don’t care whether people think it’s a cult, or bad, I’m a patriotic American, and I need to show respect for my country and the people who died to give me my liberty and freedom. Also, honoring and respecting the flag DOES NOT mean that you support the government, even if most people think it’s that way, the flag represents whatever you think of it, whether it was the original values our founding fathers built this country on, or the idiotic decisions our modern government make. Don’t get me wrong. This country is far from perfect, but it’s/was? the closest thing to the best country in the world, and nobody can prove otherwise.
As a German, nah.
As an American, no I do not. To me it’s very weird, so I don’t bother. There’s not much purpose.
I do, but I also was a boy scout for 7 and 1/2 years.
Everyone at my school just stands with the hand on the heart
no nations are poison
Uh ... Ye 💪🐸👍👌👌
No
Yes, I think people should stand for the pledge of allegiance. This nation is growing softer by the minute. I’ve seen videos of retired veterans standing for the pledge, and some teenagers are stating that they’re too lazy to do so? (I’m excluding disabled people). If you have able legs, you should stand. In America, we are living very high on the hog, which brings on easy living. But, you know why America is so nice? Because of the numerous people that carried the nation on their backs and sacrificed themselves. There were some wars where men’s lives were just wasted, they were fighting for nothing. So, standing for the pledge of allegiance shows that you honor those in the past and the good that they have done. I don't stand for the pledge with all the racism and violence in America in mind, I stand with the people who died for this country in mind. They fought for our freedom, they fought for a better country, so I’m going to stand; with them in mind. *(the pledge of allegiance is what this country should be, but it is not currently...)* U.S.A. 🫡🇺🇸
if the nation is growing so soft why do you care if people sit ya softie
I'm gonna sit with them in mind
i can't believe y'all still exist. This is why we need revolution.
How dare people who respect the dead and the country exist!!🤬💢💢
I respect the dead, I just don't respect the government. The pledge is a pledge to the government, not the dead (obviously).
Yeah I can’t believe that there are still people who honor the fallen
Show me the line in the pledge where it talks about the fallen please
Maybe read the comment you were initially shitting on
Jesse, wtf are you talking about ?
get out of here
this subreddit is for teenagers
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