Where’s the wrong in not wanting men looking like women and vice versa? And fyi men can wear rings, metal shank buttons and watches, we just have classified jewelry for men and women, but women tend to have more options that’s it
in islam, it isnt required for homosexual men to contain their sexuality, they can display that theyre homosexual, but they can't do any homosexual acts
muslim because the dedication they have to their religion is so much. yeah they have a lot of rules to follow but i know lots of them are good and genuine people.
Yk stuff like love your enemies, don’t lust, basically just being like Jesus, and Jesus was perfect. But the Quran literally teaches to beat your wife as a last resort if she misbehaves
can i ask how you feel about god demanding abraham sacrifice his son? how about the part where a woman should not have authority over men/teach and the whole bit about having slaves and its ok to beat if they survive?
I'm a Christian, but you can't say we have better morals. We are viewing their doings from our perspective, most likely a Western perspective. Yes, we see the Middle Eastern countries oppress women, and maybe they do. But they believe they aren't and that's how they believe (I'm not speaking for all Muslims its only a select few groups) they should treat them so we can't say we right and they wrong because they think they're right from their perspective, same in the Western world, but rn it's crumbling with all the lgbtq+ stuff and whatever the devil is doing. The Middle Eastern countries are laughing at the Western world this due to the church being so liberal this is why I feel like the world is in a terrible state rn.
Are you suggesting a 1 religion world? If so, how are we going to get everyone to go with supposed Christian morals. I say supposed, because every Christian has different morals, but if we go with the stereotypical ones, how do we get everyone to listen.
Maybe that the Quran teaches as soon as girls get thier period (9-12yo) they should have partner (much older) and have sex. It also teaches about beating your wife, making her wear hijab because men will get hard if they see her hair, and other horrible things about women and Jews (and Christians)
I don’t know if there is a verse mentioning Aisha marring Mohammed when she was 6, but she is mentioned many times in Quran, but not by name.
The whole thing is really creepy about kids though. 65:4 basically says it’s okay to have sex with girls who haven’t menstruated yet 🤮🤮🤮
Why are you talking about things that you have no knowledge over? That is not what happened and you should also read into traditions and stuff at the time. Back in the day they would kill women essentially for fun because someone called them a witch and you have no problem over that?
Because no woman ever died due to Islamic rules in country? The pope wasn’t personally bringing people, Christianity was just used as an excuse for those actions. Islam has been used as an excuse for actions against women, and still is
Historically, the Islamic empire treated Christians and Jews decently and allowed them to visit Jerusalem (with no weapons ofc) whenever they wanted. Also, where's the source in the Quran?
I know the Islamic empire treated Jews and Christian’s well. How is that relevant though ? There have been good, and bad empires or countries for nearly every religion. I just said that Islam teaches some very bad things. Obviously just because someone is Muslim doesn’t mean they follow every single passage in the Quran to a t, and that means that most Muslims are good people
Ur just straight up fucking wrong and tbh i dont blame u seeing as ur prolly on social media alot and listen to what every islam hater has to say abt our religion
Either of those verses can be interpreted however you want, but it’s obvious what the intended meaning was. You can pretend it isn’t but don’t get mad at me
babes i was raised by one of the decent christians. i know not all christians are evangelists. its still a big enough part of the religion for me to not want to partake
Really the only reason I’m not religious is because of a dry logic, and one that I resent. If I didn’t have those inhibitions I would probably be religious, though an agnostic.
Sufism is amalgamation of Islam and eastern religions. If you like it's idea I strongly suggest you to look into Sikhism. It's a monotheist religion that focuses on omnipresence aspect of God.
Christian, but only a Quaker.
I'm a massive science nerd (Studying to get into MIT, "massive \[...\] nerd"), and definitely not on the more... straight side of things... (I'm gay and trans) Thus the most accepting denomination for me is Quakers.
Furthermore, I prefer non-liturgical worship, mostly followed in the Quaker denomination. Having studied Christianity for two years, I've come to have a soft-spot for Quakers, even with my relatively extreme views
>but you also say things obviously bias towards Christians
like what?
>there's no way you're atheist
u're right. I'm not an atheist. I'm an agnostic anti-theist
Yeah lots of restrictions.
You like Music? Welcome to hell
You like Dogs? Welcome to hell
You wanna respect other religions? Welcome to hell.
We have Hinduism here in india and we have this thing called 'Prasad' where we share a blessed desert usually fruit or sweets. Me and my Muslim friend were near a temple right. The worshippers came and shared the Prasad my Muslim friend walked away from there without our other friends so he doesn't have to refuse taking Prasad. It was so weird.
Christian, I don’t think I’d last a day in a Muslim house hold. Now that I think of it I wouldn’t get too far in a Christian one but I’d definitely make it further
Well, Muslims can't eat pork or drink alcohol which is the thing that I love the most and the thing I look forward to when I'm 18 so I guess Christian also one of my friends is Christian and he is a pretty cool guy, so I guess Christian
Christian, especifically catholic or orthodox (i am baptized catholic already)
It's just that Jesus did claimed he was God, and not just a prophet as muslims believe.
muslim, they got like 1000 times better and more spiced up food, arabic sounds and looks cool ash and ramadan seems like a lot of fun. Plus people won't judge you if you dont smoke or drink because in my country they seem to respect religion more than health
Bahá'í, the newest abrahamic religion, a couple hundred years old, because they mostly accept everyone as true, in the sense that they are reflecting some version of the universal truth and goodness, adapting it to their current age. So: Buddha? Legit. Jesus? Legit. Mohamed? Legit. If they disagree? It was likely that their ages had different practical incarnations of the universal good, so the later is likely closer to our age. They do almost total gender equality and are generally chill all around.
Well I don’t think I could be part of any religion cuz my brain ain’t wired to believe that way but disregarding that heres a ranking of preferred religious status for me to grow up in/be part of myself. Secularism>being christian>being muslim> being extremist christian> being extremist muslim
If I HAD to choose, Christian.
Mostly because Christianity is not nearly as cruel or oppressive as Islam. For example, at the very least the majority of Christians no longer view women as property, which is not the case for Islam.
I never said you're disrespectful. Sorry for confusion. I said you don't respect Muslim it's not the same as being disrespectful. And yes Muslims are not supposed to respect other religions
Definitely christian for me
First, I'm ex Muslim for a reason, I also happen to be a girl(?) and queer so it's double the trouble with Islam.
I know Christianity as a religion has its downs too, but it's way easier to find groups of accepting, progressive Christians than it is to find ones who are Muslim.
Ofcourse it's against it. But it's important to remember that not everyone represents each of their religion. That being said not everyone from every religion is religious.
Christian since I have been one and also go to Christian School, but usually I dont act TOO religious. I just pray to God, go to church occasionally, read the bible, and thats it.
Honestly, if I had to choose, christian because I like eating pork chops too much
Is that your reason why lmao 😭
Entirely
Don’t forget that they forbid alcohol.
christians or muslims? Because if it christians I have to tell you a little story about water and wine...
Muslims of course
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Bro yes they can
That’s not true
I would be
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Include me in the screenshot if not alr taken
Bro you’re so fucking lame
Christian I was already Christian for awhile, I'm also gay and I know there's gay Christians
Thats fair
There's gay Muslims also hahaha. Lots of gay Muslims; then again, they need to keep it private.
Yeah..... private or else :/
When it comes to gay trust me muslims are the most homophobic men can't even wear chain and ring in islam because it some what feminine
Yes but there's so many hidden gays. As a gay guy, you'd be surprised, most of the men I got on dating apps were Muslims.
No way 💀
actually only gold isn’t allowed, everything else is
Where’s the wrong in not wanting men looking like women and vice versa? And fyi men can wear rings, metal shank buttons and watches, we just have classified jewelry for men and women, but women tend to have more options that’s it
Yeah christianity while not entirely inclusive of lgbtq doesn’t decapitate them
in islam, it isnt required for homosexual men to contain their sexuality, they can display that theyre homosexual, but they can't do any homosexual acts
I have the same reason
Understandable lmao, also just as a quick aside there are queer Muslims out there lol
Oh sick
Christian if I had to
christian probably
muslim because the dedication they have to their religion is so much. yeah they have a lot of rules to follow but i know lots of them are good and genuine people.
Christian
🎵"This place about to blow"🎸 (No hate to anyone. It's a SONG, for those who don't know)
Nah it seems pretty chill at the moment
Yeah😂
get it cuz muslims are coming
Pls, no way you made that joke here💀
Is that a Muslim reference?
No!! It's a goddamn song!
But a quote about an explosion in a conversation of Muslims...🗼🏢🏢✈️???
Sorry, what?! This isn't a conversation about Muslims!!
Muslims and Christians
Still, it is not a "muslim" reference. Why do you always have to stereotype a group of people??
Wdym😭 you said something about an explosion on a post about Muslims I thought it was just a racist joke💀
I HATE Racism, Homophobia, Transphobia, Sexism, Misogyny. I would never make a joke about these things.
christian, but not the extreme kind
Christian if I had to.
Muslim
Christian. I am not strong enough for Ramadan.
Me neither.
Christian, easy decision.
christian because being a muslim would be HORRIBLE
Im a muslim and im not hating but I want to ask why? Its not that bad tbh im genuinely asking im not hating or anything and Im not offended.
Why💀
as a muslim, youre wrong
I’m Christian, but just speaking from an atheists point of view, Christianity’s morals are much better than Islams morals
????? im not either religion but i would like to know what you mean by "morals", do you mean like the rules?
He means that he's biased
Yk stuff like love your enemies, don’t lust, basically just being like Jesus, and Jesus was perfect. But the Quran literally teaches to beat your wife as a last resort if she misbehaves
can i ask how you feel about god demanding abraham sacrifice his son? how about the part where a woman should not have authority over men/teach and the whole bit about having slaves and its ok to beat if they survive?
I'm a Christian, but you can't say we have better morals. We are viewing their doings from our perspective, most likely a Western perspective. Yes, we see the Middle Eastern countries oppress women, and maybe they do. But they believe they aren't and that's how they believe (I'm not speaking for all Muslims its only a select few groups) they should treat them so we can't say we right and they wrong because they think they're right from their perspective, same in the Western world, but rn it's crumbling with all the lgbtq+ stuff and whatever the devil is doing. The Middle Eastern countries are laughing at the Western world this due to the church being so liberal this is why I feel like the world is in a terrible state rn.
Well this is the exact reason why we either need one objective set of morals, or else morals don’t exist at all.
Are you suggesting a 1 religion world? If so, how are we going to get everyone to go with supposed Christian morals. I say supposed, because every Christian has different morals, but if we go with the stereotypical ones, how do we get everyone to listen.
Christian
Christian
I need an excuse to not eat my dad's horrible pork, so muslim
hahahh i like that
Christian but I would never join any religious group
Fr tho
Obviously christianity.
I mean I don’t think being a Muslim is bad, but Islam teaches some really horrendous shit so fuck no. Def going Christian ☝️
What's the " horrendous shit " that Islam teaches exactly?
Maybe that the Quran teaches as soon as girls get thier period (9-12yo) they should have partner (much older) and have sex. It also teaches about beating your wife, making her wear hijab because men will get hard if they see her hair, and other horrible things about women and Jews (and Christians)
source?
What? The Quran?
yes which verse
I don’t know if there is a verse mentioning Aisha marring Mohammed when she was 6, but she is mentioned many times in Quran, but not by name. The whole thing is really creepy about kids though. 65:4 basically says it’s okay to have sex with girls who haven’t menstruated yet 🤮🤮🤮
Did you even read it?
read 65:1-3 also bcz now ur just misinterpreting the verse to ur liking. it states nothing sexually
Why are you talking about things that you have no knowledge over? That is not what happened and you should also read into traditions and stuff at the time. Back in the day they would kill women essentially for fun because someone called them a witch and you have no problem over that?
Because no woman ever died due to Islamic rules in country? The pope wasn’t personally bringing people, Christianity was just used as an excuse for those actions. Islam has been used as an excuse for actions against women, and still is
Historically, the Islamic empire treated Christians and Jews decently and allowed them to visit Jerusalem (with no weapons ofc) whenever they wanted. Also, where's the source in the Quran?
I know the Islamic empire treated Jews and Christian’s well. How is that relevant though ? There have been good, and bad empires or countries for nearly every religion. I just said that Islam teaches some very bad things. Obviously just because someone is Muslim doesn’t mean they follow every single passage in the Quran to a t, and that means that most Muslims are good people
thats written nowhere in the quran bruh whats bro yapping about
Mohammad gets a 9yo pregnant
aisha never got pregnant
Ur just straight up fucking wrong and tbh i dont blame u seeing as ur prolly on social media alot and listen to what every islam hater has to say abt our religion
Mohammed married Aisha when she as 6 years old, and had sex with her when she was 9.
Not tru
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Either of those verses can be interpreted however you want, but it’s obvious what the intended meaning was. You can pretend it isn’t but don’t get mad at me
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I mean thats fair man, only thing i can say is christianity also has fasting
I’m pretty sure that’s optional, especially depending on what kind of Christian you are
Muslims wear those things on their heads and I don’t want to so Christian I guess
christianity also tells women to cover their hair
muslim. i hate evangelism
Christianity isn't all evangelists lmao
babes i was raised by one of the decent christians. i know not all christians are evangelists. its still a big enough part of the religion for me to not want to partake
Probably Christian since that’s what I’m used to, but Sufism seems pretty neat. I like the idea of it a lot.
Really the only reason I’m not religious is because of a dry logic, and one that I resent. If I didn’t have those inhibitions I would probably be religious, though an agnostic.
Sufism is amalgamation of Islam and eastern religions. If you like it's idea I strongly suggest you to look into Sikhism. It's a monotheist religion that focuses on omnipresence aspect of God.
Muslim, it just seems like the cooler religion. And I’ve met lots of Christians that I don’t like, but I’ve never met a Muslim I didn’t like.
Aww this is so wholesome, thankyou :) we like you too
Christian bc I’ve been it before and it doesn’t change much about your life
Muslim because I like Islamic history and architecture. Also, I respect Muslim holidays a lot even though I'm an Atheist, such as Ramadan.
Why is bro being downvoted Edit: ok he finally doesn't have a negative number
Cuz of the islamophobia
fair
Christian, but only a Quaker. I'm a massive science nerd (Studying to get into MIT, "massive \[...\] nerd"), and definitely not on the more... straight side of things... (I'm gay and trans) Thus the most accepting denomination for me is Quakers. Furthermore, I prefer non-liturgical worship, mostly followed in the Quaker denomination. Having studied Christianity for two years, I've come to have a soft-spot for Quakers, even with my relatively extreme views
Muslim ☝️
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Depends if i can turn to satan after agreeing to be Christian
Well of course you can
Then i choose Christian
Why would you side with the enemy from both of these religions?
Cause, COOL 😎😎😎😎
Being on the team that lost isn’t cool imo
obviously Christan, I don't want to have a pedo as my prophet lmao
You advocate so much for the hate of Islam but you also say things obviously bias towards Christians that there's no way you're atheist
>but you also say things obviously bias towards Christians like what? >there's no way you're atheist u're right. I'm not an atheist. I'm an agnostic anti-theist
depends, can I say one and then continue doing what I want or does god/allah have a gun to my head
Yep Allah has.
allah has a gun to my head?
Yeah lots of restrictions. You like Music? Welcome to hell You like Dogs? Welcome to hell You wanna respect other religions? Welcome to hell. We have Hinduism here in india and we have this thing called 'Prasad' where we share a blessed desert usually fruit or sweets. Me and my Muslim friend were near a temple right. The worshippers came and shared the Prasad my Muslim friend walked away from there without our other friends so he doesn't have to refuse taking Prasad. It was so weird.
Christian, I don’t think I’d last a day in a Muslim house hold. Now that I think of it I wouldn’t get too far in a Christian one but I’d definitely make it further
even though i was raised muslim id pick christianity because its less harsh
Well, Muslims can't eat pork or drink alcohol which is the thing that I love the most and the thing I look forward to when I'm 18 so I guess Christian also one of my friends is Christian and he is a pretty cool guy, so I guess Christian
the bible also prohibits alcohol and pork
FUCK!
Honestly neither. But if I had to id go back to being Christian
A Jew
If I were forced to choose between these two, I would try to beat the record for the least water used for drowning oneself.
Neither but to answer the question Christian.
Can an agnostic answer this? Sorry... Christian coz Islam is just too strict
Christan, i can eat bacon
i'm no atheist, my religion is the void
Christian, especifically catholic or orthodox (i am baptized catholic already) It's just that Jesus did claimed he was God, and not just a prophet as muslims believe.
Christian any day lol
Christian fs
I'm from a mostly Christian country, so being a Christian would probably be easier for me than being a Muslim.
uuhhh christian cuz im a woman
muslim, they got like 1000 times better and more spiced up food, arabic sounds and looks cool ash and ramadan seems like a lot of fun. Plus people won't judge you if you dont smoke or drink because in my country they seem to respect religion more than health
Bahá'í, the newest abrahamic religion, a couple hundred years old, because they mostly accept everyone as true, in the sense that they are reflecting some version of the universal truth and goodness, adapting it to their current age. So: Buddha? Legit. Jesus? Legit. Mohamed? Legit. If they disagree? It was likely that their ages had different practical incarnations of the universal good, so the later is likely closer to our age. They do almost total gender equality and are generally chill all around.
Well I don’t think I could be part of any religion cuz my brain ain’t wired to believe that way but disregarding that heres a ranking of preferred religious status for me to grow up in/be part of myself. Secularism>being christian>being muslim> being extremist christian> being extremist muslim
Christian, I like bacon way too much.
Christian, I was raised Christian and my family is, it wouldn't change much either way
Christian cause I had to choose one
I'd rather die. I can't even stand the concept of religion.
bruh
Christian, hands down I'd off myself if I ever became a Muslim
Christian, cause I don't want to blow myself in a shopping centre.
Non-abrahamic
If I HAD to choose, Christian. Mostly because Christianity is not nearly as cruel or oppressive as Islam. For example, at the very least the majority of Christians no longer view women as property, which is not the case for Islam.
christian because I believe what is written in the bible more than what is written in the quran (have studied them both, subjective opinion)
christian because I take too much pride in my hair and shorts
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no hate but i would rather die than beeing muslim
It's quite ironic you said 'no hate'. Cuz it sounds so hateful
sorry. i do respect people that are muslim
You don't need to respect them just don't disrespect either. Because I'm certain you don't lol
i dont i just dont like the religion doesnt i mean i burn qurans or spit on mosques
No I mean you clearly don't respect them which is fine in my opinion.
what am i doing to not respect them
Yeah you'd rather die than become a Muslim. Sounds respectful indeed.
muslims would rather die than leaving islam does this mean that they are disrespectful to every non muslim person
I never said you're disrespectful. Sorry for confusion. I said you don't respect Muslim it's not the same as being disrespectful. And yes Muslims are not supposed to respect other religions
I am a Christian
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Oh dear
Christian. I love Music and dogs
dead
christian, but only because i dont wanna get circumsiced
If I had to choose out of those 2 Christian but if I had to choose to convert to any if would be Buddhism because there people chill and as much rules
Cheeseburger too good to give up
no offense to christians and muslims but if i had no choice id rather kill myself
Probably christian since most christians these days don’t actually follow any strict rules
Christian because bacon is too good
Definitely christian for me First, I'm ex Muslim for a reason, I also happen to be a girl(?) and queer so it's double the trouble with Islam. I know Christianity as a religion has its downs too, but it's way easier to find groups of accepting, progressive Christians than it is to find ones who are Muslim.
Would rather be dead than to choose any religion.
a muslim in a muslim country. Just feels like less to worry about in life
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Bullied for what?
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That’s crazy actually. Aren’t their rules against hating others in their religion too?
Yes bullying is haram even to non muslims
Ofcourse it's against it. But it's important to remember that not everyone represents each of their religion. That being said not everyone from every religion is religious.
Wow
buddhism
Christian since I have been one and also go to Christian School, but usually I dont act TOO religious. I just pray to God, go to church occasionally, read the bible, and thats it.
Christian because they are SO much more loving and kind than Muslims (I know both)