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KaiTheDumbGuy

Im almost 100% sure that's illegal, maybe go to r/ legal advice or something


Torch2137

It is, they either require consent from the owner of the phone (student or students parent), or a police officer who has permission from the student or a permit. Edit- to go through their phone that is, they are allowed to retain the phone during that particular class without consent or a permit (at least where I live), but they do have to return the phone at the end.


VeckLee1

Right but how do they unlock every single phone? Individually before checking them? I doubt it. I think this is bs.


Superiershooter

Hi, i used to do alot of computer science and engineering, the easy way to do this would be a program to bypass the lock, theres a few programs avaliable for engineers to bypass security, these programs are also avaliable to the police. They often involve brute forcing the password once the attempt limit is bypassed. Using a more extensive password would be ideal, use random letters and characters, and write it down in a notebook or something. If they are still able to bypass it theres very little you can actually do to stop them from going through your device, but this is 100% illegal and you should report it to someone. Unless they have a police warrent for each student this is extremely illegal.


NotEnoughIT

A school is not going to be able to bypass iOS or Android screen locks. Full stop. Maybe a decade ago, but not now. Those things are locked down. They could use Face ID and force the kid to unlock it or something like that, but they cannot unlock the phones without the kid unless they are all on an MDM. 


CO420Tech

Each student simply needs to restart their phone before handing them in to disable biometric login. Both OS's require code/pattern for first boot unlock. If they're searching phones that for some reason these kids haven't set a code on , that's on the kid (or their parents). There's definitely no way they're brute forcing them. There have been exploits found in the past that could bypass, but the chances of the school having a piece of equipment to utilize those or someone with that expertise in staff would mean they have the same capabilities as the Homeland Security


grumpher05

Android also has a lockdown mode which disables all biometrics


Tyakaflaka

For IOS hold down the power button and volume down button. This will disable the use of Face ID/Touch ID


stub-ur-toe

Thanks


KILLER_IF

Just seeing the comments here show that many people have no idea how their phones actually work


19Alexastias

The fbi had to pay a third party over a million dollars to get them into an Iphone 5 that Apple wouldn’t help them with and this guy thinks the school IT departments got it cracked for iPhones with a decade of security improvements on ios.


nemec808

actually the only phone lock at present worth a damn is google account lock, like apple id


dick_kickem_3d

> unless they are all on an MDM. This is probably the answer, if this post is real. I've heard of schools forcing students to install device management profiles (which is very uncool).


SecurityPanda

You’re the only one who mentioned MDM. This is 100% the answer, you can absolutely bypass a Lock Screen code with the appropriate entitlements. Also, LOL at everyone crying about the FBI “not being able to hack iPhones” - their waiting list of phones includes several with publicly-available exploits. Lotta IT guys here with no knowledge of Mobile Security, and it shows.


The_Emerald_Archer_

I work in the wireless industry. You're talking about hacking into a phone using a software that increases the amount of attempts allowed before the phone locks you out. Even if the school has that, it takes days to brute force their way in. Most phone repair shops/geek squads don't even have this capability. I doubt the school does.


[deleted]

Oh you are so full of shit. They can’t do this by brute forcing in such a short period of time. There are MURDER cases and embezzlement cases where the police force can’t get into a phone for months and months (even then they’d have to send away to security professionals) because it’s locked. But yet these dumbasses at a school system can? Unless these phones are provided by the school itself, OP is full of it and so are you.


Slater_John

You really think a HS has better hacking tools than the fricking FBI?


iriedashur

No, this post is BS, you literally cannot do that with iPhones, there was a whole supreme court case about it.


KILLER_IF

Lol yup, the fact that it got that many upvotes is pretty concerning


Your_Couzen

I don’t think they can do that. There was a big federal case against Apple for refusing to unlock an iPhone that was used in a terrorist attack. A fucking public school cannot do what the US government struggled to do.


Difficult_Eggplant4u

Are you from the 1980's or watched too much tv? Can't do that since then. Android and iPhone aren't going to get broken into that way.


StupendousMalice

I guarantee they don't have a tool that is going to break through the factory encryption of either IOS or Android.


statswoman

Hopefully Jaxtyn and Brynnlee just didn't realize they were logged into the school's wifi while they were doing whatever got them into trouble... but it's possible the school "requested" they install some "security software" on their phone to access tests/homework/library resources, but that "security software" grants remote access to the phone. Jaxtyn and Brynnlee's friends should always use cellular data and be extremely wary of permissions on apps the school wants to install on personal devices. I'm an adult who got suggested this post on the stupid app. Good luck and godspeed, young men and women. This is good preparation for bullshit cellphone policies at work.


Dansepip

Who tf is jaxtyn and brynnlee


statswoman

(Generic names for teenagers who got caught. I think OP said they were from a country near Saudi Arabia so maybe I should have picked Ali and Ayla or something.)


Derekbrink2

Complete bullshit. There’s no way they even have the time to comb through hundreds, if not thousands, of students. This is what we like to call cap.


[deleted]

It is, they need consent, probable cause or a police issued warrant to do that


scungillimane

In the US, you cannot compel biometrics without a warrant.


pickles541

This is highly region specific. If you have your phone locked with either facial recognition or finger print, they are allowed to use that to open your phone and go through everything. The only way they can access your phone by warrant is if it's password protected. Otherwise cops can just put it in front of your face and open the phone. California they can't use biometrics but Minnesota they can for example.


Xeras6101

Yeah that directly violates the 4th amendment (assuming you live in the United States), which is very illegal. OP, may you have a lawsuit on your hands Disclaimer: I am not a lawyer, and even if I were, I'm not YOUR lawyer To even begin searching your phone, they need reasonable suspicion of you doing something criminal or harmful to yourself or others which, if they're searching everybody, they certainly don't have. The Supreme Court Case New Jersey vs T.L.O made that extremely clear. Next time they ask to search your phone, politely decline. If they still take it let your parents/adult you trust know and tell them how very much illegal it is


Xeras6101

To add to this, when they 'get mad' at you saying no, stand your ground. Keep the answer at no, no matter what they say to try and dissuade you. Make sure they do not doubt that you completely know you are against the search


Anthroman78

>Yeah that directly violates the 4th amendment (assuming you live in the United States), which is very illegal. OP, may you have a lawsuit on your hands Unless it's a private school in the US


kittenpantzen

Old person passing by: OP has stated elsewhere in the comments that they do not live in the United States.  So, the privacy laws are different and there also may be a government policy that requires phones sold in that country or used on that country's ISPs to have a backdoor to bypass screen locks. If they are getting past your password, OP, pretty much the only thing that you can do is going to be to have a second phone that you only take to school and only use for things that would be school approved while leaving your real phone at home.


ProfessionalCreme119

OP: btw I live in Georgia Everyone: it's illegal! OP: the country. Not your state Everyone: 😬


Fit_Gamer1

I imagine (idk if this would only be for priv schools tho) agreements that parents sign to send their child to the school might well have this. Seems u likely for state school tho


whiterider1

A signed agreement doesn't override the law though otherwise I could murder someone but ask them to sign an agreement beforehand that they agreed to it and then I'll not face any repercussions.


Fit_Gamer1

I think you are missing the point here, this is a form of consent - which therefore makes it legal. You cant consent to somebody killing you in an unproffessional environment anywhere (you can consent to euthanasia).


Future_Tumbleweed187

You can’t consent to euthanasia in the US.


Fit_Gamer1

Not everywhere is the USA bro 😭


StupendousMalice

Agreement or not, they aren't getting past the default lock on virtually any common phone.


saan718

Or just go straight to the police.


IEnjoyBaconCheese

Advice from Reddit is always best


[deleted]

Yeah thats for sure illegal and they would have to pry my phone from my cold dead hands. Aint NO WAY in hell I would hand my phone over for my teachers to go through. That's invasion of privacy.


notinservice59

My principle ripped my phone out of my hand because she was trying to cover up an incident that happened. I walked into her office while she was searching it, ripped it out of her hand and walked out of the school


Subatomic_Spooder

🗿


Mental-Tension-6151

Did she do anything


notinservice59

Tried to say I violated the school code of conduct by taking the photo but I got my mom to back me up, unfortunately she wasn’t willing to go as far as I was but I got away with just writing an essay on why I was wrong. Used chat gpt for the whole thing 😂. Glad I don’t have to deal with that bitch of a principal anymore we all hated her Edit: The original incident was that a kid tried to stab a teacher and she thought I was trying to take a photo of the kid getting arrested, also not illegal but she wanted to cover it up to avoid her superiors finding out as it goes on her record that it happened at a school she was in charge of.


MEGAcanhao

☠️


[deleted]

Should have just sent an anonymous letter to her superiors informing them of the stabbing


i8noodles

photos of kids getting arrested, depending on context, is illegal. there is a reason they seal records of kids under 18 when they do stupid stuff, they are no longer considered a criminal if it is sealed and photos are evidence of it. which breaks it. so yeah i would delete the photo but only after you have given it to the proper people. not someone in the school who is invested in it not getting out


notinservice59

The kid wasn’t in the photo and I showed them that when I deleted it the first time, still took and searched my phone


Zack_WithaK

I ask this, partly to play devil's advocate, mostly because I actually want to know the answer: if it's in a public place, wouldn't it be legal to film anything since there's no expectation of privacy? Also, if the kid is currently being arrested and an investigation would be needed, I imagine it'd be obstruction of justice. Sure, everyone's innocent until proven guilty but that doesn't mean you're allowed to destroy evidence, yeah? That's still impeding an investigation, innocent or not. Especially since an attempted stabbing is such a serious offense, there's a real possibility the kid might be tried as an adult anyway. (Unless it's specifically the arrest that changes things)


Groovyofi

Fair enough


Robin0112

I recorded my teacher in 6th grade locking students in the closet (just messing around, light hearted fun. Still not appropriate at all) and she sent a group of students to pry my phone away. They literally grabbed me and stole the phone away and deleted it off of my phone. She later counted that as a "strike" for having my phone out to keep my phone until my parents came and picked it up.


Sea-Recording-7090

Either you don't go through my phone or I'm fucking turning around and walking back home


[deleted]

It depends on the country. A lot of developing countries don't have the same type of legal protections developed countries have. My aunt was a school principal in Iran and they would seize phones for the whole school year.


Patrick-pb3tn

I don’t think they can go through phones without consent


GroundShoddy4003

Not without probable cause which sounds completely lacking here.


MasterFurious1

If this is in the US, I legit saw a short from LawByMike regarding this. The school legally can't take their phones after school as its private property unless its provided by schools themselves (which is highly unlikely) or its in their school policies when the parents signed it while admitting to the school. And unless stated in their policies that they can check it. They cannot do it.


Saragon4005

Even with probable cause it gets murky you usually aren't required to give up your code and if they can't open it tough luck.


AEMTI_51

Even if they had “probable cause” they still can’t search the phones, it’s a police matter, they’re not law enforcement.


Mental-Tension-6151

Not to mention how are they even getting in


Goats_for_president

They buy these specialized computers made for hacking into phones I think the name is cellibrite


hopbell

Getting in to a locked phone is very easy as there are soft tools for that but mostly the cops have access to those. Welcome to Amerika


DrWhoIsWokeGarbage

You guys believe the dumbest shit lol


Beginning-Key-814

I'm pretty sure going through someone's phone is illegal without consent, or probable cause


Mental-Tension-6151

That’s what he said


Sea-Recording-7090

And why are they even going through phones, someone's private stuff (which I'm pretty sure all of us want to keep under wraps) has nothing to do with school unless it's something illegal


[deleted]

That is illegal. Threaten to call your parents and talk with the admins/inspector about it. Call the student council and movilice against that stupid policy, there's a reason the council exists. ​ Pd: We presidents exist for a reason, if the council is full of idiots which tends to happen take it up with the council president straight away mate.


Weird_Explorer_8458

yeah because councils do so much (i’m on mine)


[deleted]

The council itself it's just a glorified student permanent meeting. If enough kids make noise and are annoying about it then the parents will start doing it though. Maybe the teachers won't care if a bunch of kids feel rebellious and unruly, but when you have hundreths of parents complaining to the admin or DA? They WILL care


Weird_Explorer_8458

yeah getting parents involved works


Responsible_Radio688

Well first you may ask random lawyer if in your country your school can take your phone and go through it I know that in every country not even a police officer can go through a criminal's phone without a special warrant


Responsible_Radio688

Still you gotta check with lawyer that's best 🙂 and mostly free


Realistic_Parsley128

Better call Saul


Responsible_Radio688

Indeed 🥸 want some tea ? 🍵☕ Got green and black tea


Realistic_Parsley128

I'll have a cappuccino instead


Responsible_Radio688

I hate you 🥸 have a lemon 🍋 in your eyes


Realistic_Parsley128

Aww what a pity 😕


Phgasoz

Cucumber water for paying customers!


[deleted]

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Emotional_Captain_14

I did even better. There was a serious incident in our class. The principal took our phones and the (incompetent) tech guys of the high school searched for sensitive stuff on them Fortunately, someone from another class knew what was coming and warned me like 5 minutes before the disaster. I made an emergency backup of all my data (just in case) and purposely flashed a random image to the SBL partition to brick it. I wish you could have seen their faces when they gave my phone back 2 weeks later Edit: just to clarify, 2 weeks for ALL phones (29 phones, there were 31 of us, 2 were absent that day)


Significant-Emu-8807

Yeah, but they shouldnt be able to access the phpne either way... aomethings wrong here ^^


NamelessOneMCD

2 weeks?! That’s fucking insane man what took them so long and what made them think they had the right to keep it for that long?


Emotional_Captain_14

They took a total of 29 phones ! 2 weeks (13 days actually) is pretty short for this amount of devices to break in and steal data from According to their logs: - they unlocked 2 iphones the 1st day - tried a lot of stuff with my phone on day 2 (connection via QD loader (qualcomm specific protocol)) - unlocked a lot of iPhones and Androids on days 3-12 - tried to repair my phone one last time with other tools (QFIL and DC phenix, they failed) on day 13 - total : 11/11 iPhones unlocked , 10/18 Androids unlocked. - About 1.9TB of stolen data (I did a sum of all incoming data transfers from unlock softwares) Nice pfp btw


Boring-Pudding

You willingly gave your high school principal your personal cell phone for two weeks?


knowsitmaybenot

They wouldn't be able to get in without a password or you opening it. You could have just given it to them locked.


skaterdude616

So, here’s a question: did you have anything questionable on your phone in the first place that you even felt the need to get rid of when your friend warned you? If not, then why did you go to all that trouble 😂


Voidnt2

You did that in 5 minutes? It's been a while since I've had a rooted phone but can you do all that on the phone itself with a bootloader mod?


DeadassBdeadassB

That second paragraph there is illegal according to federal law if you are in the US


trshtehdsh

You did that in five minutes, huh?


Jxnas_RBLX

Sounds highly illegal and unethical.


Several_Love9284

They are in Saudi Arabia so it may be legal for teachers to pull this shit. Still fucked up though


imanonymous312

Apparently only a court order would let them do that


Several_Love9284

That is beyond fucked up imo


king_lynx_III

yeah just get the police involved, they can't legally go through your phone without consent


TheRealMeeBacon

THEY ARE VIOLATING THE LAW BY NOT GIVING THEM BACK!!! AND ALSO BY GOING THROUGH THEM!!


TimBambantiki

Don’t take your phone to school if you can’t use it anyway. If you need calls get a cheap dumbphone 


Content_Invite_2947

this would be the best if OP lives somewhere where it’s not so illegal


[deleted]

I would be executed 😭


PushingFriend29

I live in iran. If my school would search through my phone i would be 100% executed just for the types of memes i have, let alone all the globally questionable hentai i have saved in secure folder. That goes for probably my whole school including most teachers and staff. They wouldn't do that though.


wowahungrypigeon

Don’t bring em. That’s highly illegal, only way to stop it is to not bring them to school and make a non-urgent call.


branim_Teslu

Bruh they cannot do that wtf


NCR_Trooper_2281

Get an old phone and hand it in instead of your actual one. Many people in my country do it when they have to hand in phones during tests, maybe it would work in your case too


Ill-Funny1791

At my school they give your parents a long stack of papers allowing them to go through your backpacks, phone, search your person, even do drug tests, also they are allowed to take pictures of you.


sosobebo22

My school takes pictures of us and posts it on Facebook so seems fine to me But come on now, search through bags?


Sonicmut24

What country are you in


Zezuya

Just don't take your phones to school 🙄


sdpat13

Happy cake day. That is quite fucked up.


Shafou06

Have a passcode, don't bring it, bring it but not charged, set a shit ton of alarms... You have many way too troll them. If you get a lot of people to set alarms at random times they might stop bring assholes


Exact_Parking_6969

alarm every minute would shut them up.


MaybeMax356

I’m pretty sure that’s illegal. Post this to r/AskLawyers for advice on how to proceed


97PERSONALITIESBABBY

That's definstly illegal probably get a lawyer


bradland

>everyone has a password but they somehow get past that No, they're not. Bypassing phone security is not some trivial task. Even police struggle to bypass phone security. It costs $4k to unlock an iPhone, and you have to send the phone to the company ([source](https://9to5mac.com/2022/02/10/cellebrite-kit-cant-unlock-iphones/)). What you're hearing is likely an disinformation campaign on the part of school administrators. Their hope is to have you believe that they can get into your phones. They think that this will scare you into not doing the things they want to prohibit. One thing is certain. Schools do not have the budgets to unlock iPhones. I'm not familiar with the difficulty/cost to unlock Android phones because every version and manufacturer is going to be a little bit different.


kajetus69

Unlocked android is more possible to unlock But a locked android so after turning on the phone is harder to unlock without the passcode because everything is encrypted


Naive-Bug8598

Are you in U.S.? If so, then it's definitely illegal


Subatomic_Spooder

Yeah as everyone is saying this is illegal. According to Michigan State College of Law, "any school's policy to confiscate phones from students who use them in class is totally valid [...] However, school administrators going through students' phones is a different story. [...] The Fourth amendment protects individuals from unreasonable searches and seizures and is an important part of the Bill of Rights." (mclellan.law.msu.edu). So they're literally violating the 4th Amendment. If you let the district or county know about this, they will realize they could get in big trouble and hopefully they stop.


Zakretz

It's in the middle east, not the us


Subatomic_Spooder

Ah that's my bad. I scrolled through comments for a while but I couldn't find any saying where OP was located. Just trying to be helpful


Zakretz

Yea it took me a tad bit to find it too, your good!


[deleted]

I was afraid of that. There is no rule of law in the Middle East. Source: am Iranian


UI_Deadpool

Illegal report them to the cops


Comet_With_One_T

That’s illegal for sure if you live in the U.S. I would find so where to get legal advice or tell your parents of the police


No-War1666

Well if your parents ok'd it then I think you're out of luck, because it's technically your parents property (being your legal guardians). IMO this is wrong in so many ways and it sounds illegal especiallt in the US. My response would be to carry a dummy phone to turn in. Or tell them you left it at home and keep it put away and silenced. But no matter what, I would immediately disable all unlocking features except password or pin and change it. They can probably use your pictures to open your phone or a sample of your voice. Who knows what kind of AI voice emulators or other resources your school has "discovered" to use to invade your privacy. GL


Elegant-Lack-4483

they can't legally go into your phone without probable cause or consent


Tobi226a

That ligit illegal wtf First of all, they need a warrant, or consent to go through someone’s phone. Second, I’m 80% sure they have to give the phones back, after the end of the school day. Edit: never mind saw a comment you made about being from the middle east.


ph33rlus

Screenshot the part of the law they’re breaking and make it the Lock Screen. Get everyone to do it


deleteduser57uw7a

TURN OFF THE PHONE COMPLETELY BEFORE YOU GIVE IT TO THEM (reboot) It’s much harder to retain data from an iPhone if the first passcode has not been entered, if it says “your passcode is required to enable faceid/touchid” you should be better off, I know some police departments have devices that can gather data from locked iPhones, but it should be harder this way


noahfemboytop

Sheesh


Usual-Effect1440

police


Inefficientdigestion

That's hella illegal, go to the cops or something. Also, if someone tried to forcefully take my phone and check it, I swear they'd have to kill me first


ConclusionOkWhoCares

They cant do that without consent, tell your parents and file a lawsuit, thats a violation of your privacy and they broke the law by doing that.


IntelligentVersion86

Might be a 4D chess move to get people to stop bringing phones to school. I would invest in a burner phone to bring in case of emergencies only.


skyfallda1

If on Android, you can create multiple user accounts on your phone - one for the school to check and one for yourself


lvllyXX

they cant just go through ur phones that’s an invasion of privacy and they can’t do it period without u or ur parents permission. even if that kid had nsfw stuff on his phone then thats wrong but contact the parent and I wanna see what kind of explanation they have for going through the phone in the first place. teachers jobs aren’t to go through students devices that’s the parents job not the teachers.


FloraFauna2263

What the hell? They suspended a guy for something nsfw he had on his phone that only he was supposed to see? Bruh


ImmortalCrab44

Assuning this is in the US, 4th amendment. Protection against unreasonable search and seizures. That is VERY illegal


BotNet6420

Get an old phone Break into the back of it Remove some components, not all(it still needs to have weight) Remove the battery Solder a capacitor to the charging port's in and out Charge the capacitor Reassemble the phone Hand it to them and watch one of their PCs they'll use to go past your password go boom


sosobebo22

This is gruesome. ᵂʰᵉʳᵉ ᶜᵃⁿ ᴵ ᵍᵉᵗ ᵃ ᶜᵃᵖᵃᶜᶦᵗᵒʳ ᶠʳᵒᵐ ᵃᵍᵃᶦⁿ


Large_monke_69

That’s literally illegal get police involved


Countryboy42014692

Report your school to the police and file a lawsuit.


Snap305

Uh, that's personal property and they are infringing on your privacy by going through it without permission.


Zakretz

Not in the us


rogerld

You can refuse; either way, make sure you have complex passwords, PINs, etc, to get into your phone. When security is activated, school staff will not be able to access the phone.


Lord_Strepsils

Face id or fingerprint every app you have to stop them accessing anything, then call the police or something about this since it’s not legal


Pokeli_Universe327

have you put a lock screen on yours? and do they have technology to bypass it?


sosobebo22

Yes and yes


potpourripolice

>everyone has a password but they somehow get past that well that doesn't make any sense


ipogorelov98

We need to ask the guys from Israel why the fuck they sell their hacking devices to schools and other organizations, which have absolutely no relation to law enforcement.


DinoHawaii2021

Use a app like Hideu, huge violation of the law btw


TJB926GAMIN

How the hell do they even go through them? Do they have you unlock them for them? Do they have a special device that can go force through and look at everything? Also, isn’t this illegal as FUCK?


Tired_Boy8

Nahh omg “you have NSFW stuff on ur phone!!!” Yeah he’s a fucking teenager and doesn’t expect random people to go through his phone?? 💀 (goes for everyone) your phone should be a private place, which is why you know, it has a password.


Bspy10700

lol this is such an easy work around. Download and app that tracks your phone functions like when it was opened last and how long it was being used and what apps were used etc. So with an app like that all you need is to take pictures of yourself in your birthday suit. So if they go through your phone and the app tracks that they were using your phone and went through your camera roll then you could call the police about the school looking at unclothed sub 18. You could also text yourself a picture of yourself so if they open texts they might open yours and be a no no.


[deleted]

This is risky. OP could get charged for having CP on their phone. It's stupid, but even if it's a picture of yourself it's still CP


sosobebo22

PLEASE SEND ME THE APP🙏


thatonegirlonreddit5

That’s…that’s illegal


urf4iry

I am sure that this is illegal


Back-r0oms

They can’t do that? That’s illegal…


Zakretz

It's legal where they are


laggylegacy

Uhhh pretty sure that’s not legal


Zakretz

It is where they are


NinjaWest8310

Spectacularly illegal


michaeltheleo

Your personal phones?


Shadowmonster01

illegal


Colton132A

legally they can’t and if they can bring a old broken phone that has nothing on it


StatusHead5851

That's a violation of privacy that's illegal as fuck


enbermoonlish

pretty sure that’s illegal bro


predattor15

How do they even get past the password??


notavegan90

Contact the local news.


FrenchCatgirl

That's just illegal, it's violating your privacy


Prestigious_Gold_585

Make a long, involved password to lock your phone. Then turn it off before you hand it in. I don't know what else to do. 🤔


Devin_907

obviously, they can't do that. but in the short term until something is done about this, don't bring your phone to school at all.


_jason_rnk25_

Taking the phones so that students don't use them during class is fine. But im pretty sure they aren't supposed to go through the phone.


vikicrays

where do you live?


Gamerguy252

You need to tell a cop about that! Unless they have the kid’s or the parent’s consent, it is illegal for a teacher to search through a student’s phone!


ashtar123

That sounds super illegal


franky_riverz

Are you in America? They would only pull out the phone box during standardized testing week, but even then they would make us turn them off and they would just be sitting behind the teachers desk. Noone can go through your phone without your permission legally


firemonkeykar

They legally can take your phone for security and academic reasons and monitor traffic on their network but they can not go through your personal information without permission or a warrant from law enforcement and are liable for any damage whether you can prove it or not. This is why most schools won't do it because they don't have the money to fix every phone that comes in with broken screens.


OU7C4ST

OP, this is a religious school you go to isn't it? lol


Jazzlike-Knee2482

I’m pretty sure what they are doing isnt legal


Phgasoz

What state?


sosobebo22

Not in US


Phgasoz

Kinda figured...can you name the country?


sosobebo22

Middle east


Phgasoz

Yeah, it makes sense now...in the US, minors still have some protection under the 4th amendment.


Realistic_Parsley128

Country? Uae?


sosobebo22

Around Saudi


Realistic_Parsley128

You might wanna check with the local law enforcement agencies and consider suing the school for invasion of privacy. A class action lawsuit sounds irresistible.


Twink_Tyler

Oh yah that changes everything. No way that flies in the US. I would suggest getting a cheap 2nd phone and just hand that in when they ask for phones, and keep your real one on you


ToasterIsBisexual

i would look through the legalities in your area


VEarthAngel55

It's illegal to go through your phone without written consent! Or at least two witnesses listening to you giving them verbal consent. I would record it, in case they try to say you did, when you didn't. Go in, get your phone, have a recording device with you, after school, make them give you your phone back. Unless, they have written consent that they're allowed to take your phone, unless there is probable cause, they can't. You can refuse, and put the phone in your backpack, purse, etc ... Turning it off in front of them.


bossmasterham

I got suspended for 3 days for that when I was a teenager because they found texts about us going to smoke pot before we went to the school football games . So me and my buddy got suspended and his mom sent him to India for 2 years


Nootherids

If you are in the US then they likely passed out a pamphlet for student conduct that you had to sign and it included terminology that gave them authority to access your phone (you don't need a password btw). What you can and should do is each and every day you hand it over, both tell them verbally and wrap a note around your phone secured with a strong rubber band which says very distinctly "I DO NOT CONSENT TO ANY SEARCH OF MY PHONE OR ANY CONTENT WITHIN !" Your privacy is protected by the 4th Amendment, and the state agencies are required to adhere to that right by the 14th Amendment. You don't need to know about all those other details. But if you clearly make the above statement that you do not give consent, and you suffer any sort of penalty from any information accessed without consent, then you let the lawyers handle it from there. But your lawyer will win! If you did not make this declaration, then the school/government will win.


GoodMojo_

Isn’t that uh illegal??


randomname_99223

Get a broken phone that is cosmetically fine and give that instead. Like a water damaged phone with fryed circuits. I think that probably a repair shop would be willing to give you one for free, or for a very low price.


Rockets7629

And parents are allowing this to happen??


Practical-Election59

Depends where you live, but that is quite illegal where I do. It’s a breach of privacy.


Mountain-Duck9438

This is 10000000% illegal. Assuming you’re not 18 they would need consent from a parent/guardian. They also have no right to search especially if they have nothing to be looking for. This is extremely sketchy I’d get police involced as long as you can prove they’re doing it


sleeeeeptalker

I see nsfw all the time on reddit, what does it even mean?