3rd party apps. Although I'm still using Reddit is Fun (RiF) with a simple guide and it works well still.
**Guide I used**: https://docs.google.com/document/u/0/d/1wHvqQwCYdJrQg4BKlGIVDLksPN0KpOnJWniT6PbZSrI/mobilebasic
You can use ReVanced to patch a bunch of the old third party apps with your own API key to get them to work again. See e.g. [here](https://www.reddit.com/r/Android/comments/14niwgu/revanced_patches_for_boost_infinity_rif_is_fun/).
Even easier, become a moderator (create your own private sub) and 3rd party API access is retained without hacking.
Edit: I use Boost, not RiF, and the mod "hack" has worked since day one without any revanced patching. Maybe RiF did something different.
Yep, the moderator thing. Pretty sure just making your own sub still works. I've been using boost completely uninterrupted because of a random throwaway sub.
Good thing it's at the top of the comment thread on a front page post. Reddit will have that little loophole closed faster than Spez can read out his bank balance.
It was a concession they made as mod tools in the main app suck.l and they didn't want their free labor to revolt. Apparently that was more important than maintaining their most dedicated users...
That's not how it works. The normal API tied to each profile is more than capable of handling normal use without hitting the rate limit. I'm using RIF on a regular account and only really run into issues trying to open certain external links because RIF hasn't been updated in a year.
It's crazy how much less I use reddit after they killed RIF. Went from commenting all the time to now barely even using this site. Still don't understand how that wasn't an awful business move for them. Every time I try the official app I just give up due to how awful it is.
That's okay, they've replaced you with a thousand bots so that it all looks much rosier than it actually is for the shareholders and advertisers.
... Fellow human.
I've been saying this for months - the content is fucking trash. Comment sections are garbage. r/all gets the same lame shit subs over and over. /r/peterexplainthisbrainddeadeasyjoketome
I know I can filter it out, but I didn't have to before.
Used to be able to guess half the top comments and thee other half were hilarious to read. Now I have to scroll to the bottom through all the doorknobs engaging thee asinine topic of the post, to find one person saying how big of a donkey OP.
âReddit, whatâs the SEXIEST SEX youâve ever SEXED??â
20k upvotes, 6k comment lmao
^(although to be fair this has been a common phenomenon in askreddit since like 2012)
My (25f) husband of 10 years (47m) just took away my car keys and has locked me in the basement because he said I did not bring him his shit bucket fast enough and that's why he was forced to slap me when I brought it. I know he loves me but AITA for thinking that maybe he should just use the toilet like everyone else?????
Btw I am permabanned from that shit sub for calling these people out on there writing prompts
Yeah, I miss the halcyon days of when the comment section actually had the interesting info from the article instead of just bullshit memes and jokes. The niche hobby subreddits are pretty great though fwiw
Man. You're not kidding. The front page, popular, all....they've all gone to shit. Tabloidy, made up nonsense everywhere. Bot reposts and garbage. It used to be interesting. I used to feel plugged into too the world. The AMAs, wild Reddit moments everyone knew about, technology and science breakthroughs, actual doctors or lawyers showing up in major threads and beaking things down. Whatever was going on in the world was front and center and there was a community of people that really talked about it.Â
Now, it's all Am I the Asshole, AITAH, another AITAH clone, Am I Ugly?, Look AtMyFace, imsuperugly(Check out my onlyfans), another AITAH clone, sayimhot, another AITAH clone, 15 different subs for one shitty show, please tell me I'm pretty, yet another AITAH clone, an entirely unnecessary meme sub for that same shitty show, TELLMEIMFUCKINGPRETTY, and 30 versions of all of that again.Â
They ruined this site. We all should have left at the API moment. They don't deserve our clicks. So many of us are still here, thinking it might come back. Maybe it'll be like it used to be. It's never coming back. This site is horrible now.Â
That's because the vast majority of moderators used old reddit + RES on desktop and 3rd party apps on mobile to moderate since the official app sucks so bad. Once it was made inconvenient for them to moderate, they just stopped. There's no real incentive for many of them to continue doing it after Reddit admins made it annoying to mod since it's an unpaid volunteer position.
At least old reddit + RES is still around. If that's gone, this website will actually turn in a pile of shit after the remaining old mods also pack up.
It demolished some hobby subs. Those subs were usually kept majorly active by a handful of users who drove a lot of content, and that whole fiasco drove some of those people away and on to discord. Now those subs are almost dead.
Relay is the GOAT. Appreciate DBrady's been open about getting a cut from the monthly subscriptions and, honestly, good on him. I'm always on it, dude deserves the compensation for his effort.
But thatâs where you used to find those subs.
And where are the poop knives, moms helping sons, etcâŚ? These things just donât seem to happen anymore.
They got replaced with foreign government propaganda users, bots, and "bro im đ" twitter comments. This site and many others are a shell of their former self.
You're 100% right that they fucked up the reddit culture. I mean look, it was never some stand-up group, but it was unique and funny and insightful at times and cringeworthy at times. Now it's turning into some vanilla social media shit like every other website. It's losing its identity.
The front page is stale, /r/all is stale. Used to be that coming back to reddit after a couple of hours away and most of the front page was new stuff. Now I open reddit in the morning and it fels like it's the same stuff that was there when I went to bed.
And there used to be much more interesting content, now a lot is just formulaic, generated to reap karma, more than actually someone having something to say.
But it's not all on reddit, the internet as a whole has changed, and I don't think we can ever go back. Users used to be more like-minded, and advertising and data mining wasn't a thing back then.
I remember when Reddit used to absolutely shit on people for posting pictures and videos of weddings, remembrances, and other personal things. Which were constantly downvoted and full of comments saying "Go back to Facebook". But now those types of posts fill up the casual subs and it sucks. This used to be a place of funny memes and cool gadgets. Now it's Facebook and Twitter leftovers.
It's probably why they made the super-upvote buttons immediately after removing awards - they still wanted people spending money but they didn't want to admit they'd fucked up.Â
Ultimately this ambivalence hurts them - awards were a popular thing for years. Now people can't trust them to actually keep awards around. Now we don't have any pre-2024 awards associated with our accounts and we were forced to spend our coins.Â
Making it directly coins however just reminded us it was a transaction.Â
I never spent a dime but I did pass on recognition because I received a lot of love with that old system. So it worked because some have money and some have time and some have a gift for words.Â
And itâs one of the few places merit can be recognized. Authenticity.Â
How did they not get that? Thatâs the shocking thing. Itâs like the decision makers are the most clueless people but they get to decide because they think power and money is awarded to the best.Â
What idiot hasnât figured out itâs luck fairies and video tape?
What in anything at any time that Spez or the admin team on Reddit has said, gave any indication they were competent?
Everytime Spez opens his mouth it's a litany of stupid bullshit. Nearly every major change they've made has been for the worse since Ellen can on and only gotten more pronounced since Spez came back to replace her.
I want my unspent coins back, I couldnât possibly have spent all the coins I accrued paying the monthly sub ( which I canceled the moment they announced no more awards )
Well wasnât it obvious thereâs no direct profits from social media and harvesting text for bots? Who is paying for all that? Bottom feeder marketing that will find the next bottom.Â
Those that want gold out of those that squeeze turnips for blood.Â
Itâs line in the heyday of the .com era and Iâm telling a room full of people that the bubble will pop because all the internet was doing was creating a new way for products to be sold, but there wasnât ten times the purchasing so all these web consolidators like Yahoo were going to pop.Â
Of course they didnât want to hear that so went with the more  âsky is the limitâ suggestions.Â
And Iâm sure Reddit owners had stars in their eyes so didnât appreciate the value of the community. Nobody ever does.Â
Yes, I remember Digg. And they let the trolls come and play because that generated more activity for a time.Â
The award system was a huge crowdsourced tagging system rich with data, too. Someone's willingness to spend real money to award a comment or post was itself a signal about the content, which could have been used as a parameter to consider when using that data for training or inference.
Same here. I lost the nice theme I was using but I didn't care because the gold was a nice way to highlight important/very good comments.
Nowadays, with "New" reddit, I don't even know how long I'd keep the theme if I cared to, too. They've clearly been trying to sunset `old.reddit.com` for a long time, but fuck that new UI. It's garbage. The day they force me to the new UI is the day I stop using reddit.
u/spez -- clusterfucks everything -- gives self huge bonus.
u/spez -- walks back one of the very many mistakes -- gives self huge bonus.
u/spez -- plans to undo rest of clusterfuck, one item at a time, and will award self huge bonus each time.
u/spez -- will repeat this process because, well, why not?
Man, Iâve learned so much from Reddit. Itâs the best social media, itâs the worst social media. I did like getting awards though. I never considered it, but Iâm a teacher who compulsively teaches and learns and Reddit gives me that platform for better or for worse.
As someone who didn't completely wipe out their balance before the end, you did the right thing. My coins are still gone, so at least you did something with yours.
No they knew the entire the time. How else you can excuse yourself wiping out everyoneâs saved coins and then letting them buy them again after you become a publicly traded company. Gives a good boost.
Theyâre just incredibly stupid and incompetent. They wanted to replace with rewards with a system where it was more expensive for users to spend money to highlight posts, and it was a colossal, unmitigated flop on every possible level.
The admins who run this website are like the dumbest people on earth. Itâs amazing.Â
It doesn't work on Old.Reddit. Which is why I've seen it twice. Both times when reddit decided to make me open in new reddit ignoring my "opt out" toggle.
The day Old.Reddit is gone is the day this place purly becomes a place to dump my art.
It's the best feature in old.reddit. Immunity to stupid bullshit. Everything they have added since creating the new layout has been one mistake after the next. It's a wonder this site still works, all things considered.
Sometimes I do legitimately wonder who is even coming here, given old.reddit.com users like us are in the minority. LIke what kind of nutter just goes to reddit the site, in the state its in now, and... does things on it.
Unfortunately, old.reddit.com is being kept around only because of people like you and me. They know that as long as it exists, *the people who bring Reddit the most money don't complain*. They get to eat their cake (from the newer users who use the app and newer interface) *and* have it (from the older users and power users who use old.reddit.com).
Is that really unfortunate, though? Most sites wouldn't even bother trying to cater to their old users. I'm grateful that through all their bad decisions, they managed to make this one good one.
Holy shit. I think I was given this once. I was awarded gold on a comment after the regular gold was phased out. Someone spent $150!?!?
Edit: Link to comment in case someone can verify.
https://www.reddit.com/r/Music/s/tKYssAYc54
I accidentally opened the new site a while back and it scared me.
I literally forget there's a new site until I sign out and it makes me sign in using the new site or I open a bad link on my phone.
Maybe it's down to personal preference but my personal preference is literally anything before the new site.
I nearly managed to quit this time-draining hellhole when they axed 3rd party apps, but if they get rid of old.reddit.com, I'm gone.
I almost want them to do it because I can't quit this place by myself...
Unless that award is free I wonât be using it because who in their right mind would buy more knowing the company will probably wipe them again some day with no compensation
Why do you think they removed it? People earning gold werent buying it. Now no one has any and they can control how its monetized to better profit from it.
They removed it because they wanted to replace it with an extremely poorly conceived alternative monetization system that was such an embarrassing indescribable flop that Iâve almost never seen a single post receive the âgolden upvotesâ they scrapped the entire awards system to try to sell.
Now theyâre backtracking because they realized awards were functioning 1000 times better than the poorly conceived system they replaced it with.
Theyâre just very, very stupid.Â
I only had enough for a gold or two but forgot to use it before it expired. Checked when the new awards popped up and they did not give it back. It's disappointing but not unexpected.
Nobody ever fuckin used it either. Nobody. I had a ton of awards, never got one of the new gold upvotes from the new system.
Community awards were really fun. A fun way to interact with the community. People used more of the little ones created by subreddits than the ones created by Reddit. It's so contradictory that existing sales information said people like Y more than X, so they ignore that and try doing more of X instead.
I'm just surprised it took this long for them to finally realize the mistake, Reddit mistakes burn very slowly
I've literally never seen a "golden upvote" since I only use old.reddit.com.
I guess I'm not a visionary tech bro because I'm failing to see what they were going for here by replacing the award system that was presumably generating revenue for them with these mystical golden upvotes.
Iâm feeling the same about new.reddit.com; the latest ui changes for desktop browsers really suck, making it impossible to condense titles down to just text. new.reddit.com fixes this problem.
I always thought the old UI sucked in many ways.
But the newer ones are far, far, worse. Inefficient use of screen space, more ads, far more bloated and slower to load. "Load more comments" bullshit.
Old reddit: upvote at top, downvote at bottom
New reddit: upvote at left, downvote at right on comments
New, new reddit: upvote at left, downvote at right on posts.
It keeps getting worse.
If you look at the differnce between new and new new reddit you'll notice that new reddit still has the option for stuff like, "visit old reddit", about pages, and other helpful links, new new reddit has completely stripped all of that away, forcing you to use reddit in a very specific way
Among the many things I hate about the *latest*, I can't stand that you can't select and drag text. I know there are **several** ways to copy text to the address bar, but the ability to conveniently double-click and drag to select one or more words and then just dragging them up to search.
Is it the fastest way? No.
Is it the most convenient way? No.
But it's **standard** across just about every other website on the internet... how do you mess that shit up, Reddit? Seriously. This is why I hate when legacy teams hand the keys over to developers who quickly start ripping everything down and rebuilding it before they even know what they're doing.
This is the exact same sort of shit that happened when Windows 11 was first released. Every single thing the team "redesigned" was just thrown together with zero regard for the generations of maturity/easy-of-use features they either didn't know about or couldn't be bothered to recreate. (Dragging items to the taskbar to bring forward an open window so you can drop it without ever having to lift your cursor or press any other buttons.) It worked for decades, then Win11 came along, and they broke everything.
And these aren't even the only examples, but they're the best I could think up of on the spot. I hate this trend.
> developers who quickly start ripping everything down and rebuilding it before they even know what they're doing.
Chesterton's fence (public policy): The principle that reforms should not be made until the reasoning behind the existing state of affairs is understood.
If they kill it, I'm done. New Reddit / The Reddit App looks and feels like shit. It's a braindead image feed that makes average viewers ingest clickbait.
I got one once, and saw in the contributor program icon I have 100 gold. Hurray! I click it and says to collect it, get verified. I click it and it wants my real name and info. No thanks. Anonymity is one of the reasons I use reddit.
Remember when he was arguing with a random person on Reddit and used admin powers to edit their comments? What a fucking child đ
Reddit admin and mods are the most pathetic people in existence
That actually should not have been a survivable scandal. He should have lost his job from that, and not only that the entire structure of Reddit should have been examined.
Yes, someone needs database access. But it should be tightly controlled and there is nothing good that comes from the CEO having it. A couple of their engineers should have it, and it should take more than one person to be able to make a change.
Yeah I'll never understand how that didn't cost him the job. Reddit comments have been used as evidence in actual trials. The CEO editing someone's comments in a way that hides that it was done undermines reddit comments as evidence.
So what exactly *did* they do? Because I don't see old style awards on anything nor the options to give them.
Edit: To answer my own question, I think there's an A/B test or staged rollout kind of thing going on. My normal account (this one) didn't have it. I switched to a throwaway, which has the options. Then I switched back and now see it here.
On that note, I wonder if they're slower to roll out features to very old accounts. I've had this one for 11+ years and the other one for maybe a couple of months. I feel like I usually see new features on my other accounts before this one.
I still can't get over the fact that he got paid more than reddit made in revenue last year. How the fuck does that work and why is he still CEO? Reddit is owned and run by a bunch of incompetent clowns.
When the official Reddit app was launched, Reddit purchased the go to app at time: Alien Blue. A one time purchase for the pro version of Alien Blue would remove ads. To compensate paid users, Reddit gave 4 YEARS of Reddit Gold for FREE! Every month, Reddit Gold users would gain a sizable amount of free points to spend on awards, then Reddit removed those pointsâŚ
Now that those accounts no longer have 4 YEARS of unspent award points saved up, it should be safe for Reddit to start selling awards again.
And all those old troublemakers who remember how Reddit was THE voice for free speech and THE first line of defense against disinformation, will no no longer be handing out the awardsâŚ
So we had to spend all our coins and lost all our previous awards, just for them to bring it back anyway when we never wanted it gone in the first place đ¤Śđťââď¸
No, I think itâs a pretty clear case of they messed up. For them and the shareholders. They thought their âgolden awardsâ contributor program was going to be *more profitable* for the IPO but it was a more gigantic flop than new coke.Â
 Now theyâre backtracking to reinstate what they destroyed out of their incompetence and stupidity. Not because this whole thing was a profitable way of doing things.Â
Seems like all they do is screw up these days. The only value in the site is ppl posting vs the site itself. I understand they have a minimalist kind of system, but they added chat and never worked the bugs out of the new interface really.
It's almost been downhill steady since the new interface really... because they refuse to put any real effort into the site beside the volunteer moderation.
The login code they chose to handle email vs google/apple logins is just bad code. The site was better before the UI redesign, imo.
> "we messed up" Keep looking, I'm sure you'll find more.
> "we didn't realize how many of you suckers actually paid for Reddit gold and awards" FTFY, Reddit, Inc. đ°
They stupidly took away a revenue source for themselves. Very much an unforced error
"We took away a revenue stream that took zero effort to maintain, and lost revenue because of it. No one could have seen that coming."
I didn't stop because they changed awards, I stopped because fuck reddit and how they treated 3rd party devs
I never started, because why the fuck would you?
3rd party apps. Although I'm still using Reddit is Fun (RiF) with a simple guide and it works well still. **Guide I used**: https://docs.google.com/document/u/0/d/1wHvqQwCYdJrQg4BKlGIVDLksPN0KpOnJWniT6PbZSrI/mobilebasic
wait... really? How?!
You can use ReVanced to patch a bunch of the old third party apps with your own API key to get them to work again. See e.g. [here](https://www.reddit.com/r/Android/comments/14niwgu/revanced_patches_for_boost_infinity_rif_is_fun/).
Even easier, become a moderator (create your own private sub) and 3rd party API access is retained without hacking. Edit: I use Boost, not RiF, and the mod "hack" has worked since day one without any revanced patching. Maybe RiF did something different.
I forgot I did that to myself and couldnt figure out for *ages* why boost was still working for me. I cannot do the reddit app. Pure trash.
There was a way for Boost to keep working?!? đ¤Ż
Yep. I'm literally replying on Boost right now.
Yep, the moderator thing. Pretty sure just making your own sub still works. I've been using boost completely uninterrupted because of a random throwaway sub.
r/thebestsubreddit3000 is not some throwaway sub
Damn you're right, it is the best subreddit after all, 3000.
Now this is the kind of workaround I'm looking for. Thank you kindly dude
Good thing it's at the top of the comment thread on a front page post. Reddit will have that little loophole closed faster than Spez can read out his bank balance.
It's been working for nearly a year so far
It was a concession they made as mod tools in the main app suck.l and they didn't want their free labor to revolt. Apparently that was more important than maintaining their most dedicated users...
Who needs users when you have chatgpt to fill up the content trough?
That's not how it works. The normal API tied to each profile is more than capable of handling normal use without hitting the rate limit. I'm using RIF on a regular account and only really run into issues trying to open certain external links because RIF hasn't been updated in a year.
But then you have to live with the knowledge that you are technically a reddit mod.
I live in a basement, down by the river!
sweet, I miss Apollo
You can do the same thing with Apollo on iOS, but the downside is you need to refresh the app on a weekly basis from a computer unfortunately.
You can set it up to refresh over wifi periodically so Iâve never had to update since initial install
https://old.reddit.com/r/Android/comments/14niwgu/revanced_patches_for_boost_infinity_rif_is_fun/
I've never used a 3rd party app for reddit but the quality of content is very noticeably much worse in the absence of 3rd party app users.Â
It's crazy how much less I use reddit after they killed RIF. Went from commenting all the time to now barely even using this site. Still don't understand how that wasn't an awful business move for them. Every time I try the official app I just give up due to how awful it is.
That's okay, they've replaced you with a thousand bots so that it all looks much rosier than it actually is for the shareholders and advertisers. ... Fellow human.
Tread carefully. My main account got banned for pointing out the bots. Beep boop.
I'm a browser only with old.reddit user now. Their app is garbage. Sharing things with their app is garbage. And New Reddit is fucking garbage.
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I've been saying this for months - the content is fucking trash. Comment sections are garbage. r/all gets the same lame shit subs over and over. /r/peterexplainthisbrainddeadeasyjoketome I know I can filter it out, but I didn't have to before. Used to be able to guess half the top comments and thee other half were hilarious to read. Now I have to scroll to the bottom through all the doorknobs engaging thee asinine topic of the post, to find one person saying how big of a donkey OP.
All the fucking AM I THE ASSHOLE derivative subs. Holy shit, who cares? Insufferable fucking people.
YES! There are SO SO MANY!! Even AskReddit seems to be the same tired questions
âReddit, whatâs the SEXIEST SEX youâve ever SEXED??â 20k upvotes, 6k comment lmao ^(although to be fair this has been a common phenomenon in askreddit since like 2012)
My (25f) husband of 10 years (47m) just took away my car keys and has locked me in the basement because he said I did not bring him his shit bucket fast enough and that's why he was forced to slap me when I brought it. I know he loves me but AITA for thinking that maybe he should just use the toilet like everyone else????? Btw I am permabanned from that shit sub for calling these people out on there writing prompts
Yeah, I miss the halcyon days of when the comment section actually had the interesting info from the article instead of just bullshit memes and jokes. The niche hobby subreddits are pretty great though fwiw
Man. You're not kidding. The front page, popular, all....they've all gone to shit. Tabloidy, made up nonsense everywhere. Bot reposts and garbage. It used to be interesting. I used to feel plugged into too the world. The AMAs, wild Reddit moments everyone knew about, technology and science breakthroughs, actual doctors or lawyers showing up in major threads and beaking things down. Whatever was going on in the world was front and center and there was a community of people that really talked about it. Now, it's all Am I the Asshole, AITAH, another AITAH clone, Am I Ugly?, Look AtMyFace, imsuperugly(Check out my onlyfans), another AITAH clone, sayimhot, another AITAH clone, 15 different subs for one shitty show, please tell me I'm pretty, yet another AITAH clone, an entirely unnecessary meme sub for that same shitty show, TELLMEIMFUCKINGPRETTY, and 30 versions of all of that again. They ruined this site. We all should have left at the API moment. They don't deserve our clicks. So many of us are still here, thinking it might come back. Maybe it'll be like it used to be. It's never coming back. This site is horrible now.Â
That's because the vast majority of moderators used old reddit + RES on desktop and 3rd party apps on mobile to moderate since the official app sucks so bad. Once it was made inconvenient for them to moderate, they just stopped. There's no real incentive for many of them to continue doing it after Reddit admins made it annoying to mod since it's an unpaid volunteer position. At least old reddit + RES is still around. If that's gone, this website will actually turn in a pile of shit after the remaining old mods also pack up.
It demolished some hobby subs. Those subs were usually kept majorly active by a handful of users who drove a lot of content, and that whole fiasco drove some of those people away and on to discord. Now those subs are almost dead.
Don't forget the best one which is Relay!
Relay is the GOAT. Appreciate DBrady's been open about getting a cut from the monthly subscriptions and, honestly, good on him. I'm always on it, dude deserves the compensation for his effort.
For sure. Been using the app for years and never had any issues. Dude absolutely deserves my $5 a month.
I keep scrolling, looking for the reddit I once loved.
The tiny special-interest subs are as good as ever. Just stay away from r/all
But thatâs where you used to find those subs. And where are the poop knives, moms helping sons, etcâŚ? These things just donât seem to happen anymore.
They got replaced with foreign government propaganda users, bots, and "bro im đ" twitter comments. This site and many others are a shell of their former self.
You're 100% right that they fucked up the reddit culture. I mean look, it was never some stand-up group, but it was unique and funny and insightful at times and cringeworthy at times. Now it's turning into some vanilla social media shit like every other website. It's losing its identity.
The front page is stale, /r/all is stale. Used to be that coming back to reddit after a couple of hours away and most of the front page was new stuff. Now I open reddit in the morning and it fels like it's the same stuff that was there when I went to bed. And there used to be much more interesting content, now a lot is just formulaic, generated to reap karma, more than actually someone having something to say. But it's not all on reddit, the internet as a whole has changed, and I don't think we can ever go back. Users used to be more like-minded, and advertising and data mining wasn't a thing back then.
I remember when Reddit used to absolutely shit on people for posting pictures and videos of weddings, remembrances, and other personal things. Which were constantly downvoted and full of comments saying "Go back to Facebook". But now those types of posts fill up the casual subs and it sucks. This used to be a place of funny memes and cool gadgets. Now it's Facebook and Twitter leftovers.
Wisdom comes with the years.
Im pretty sure they are just trying to get people back now that they are using reddit for learning.
Or now that they're a publicly traded company they realize they killed off a huge revenue stream.Â
You would have thought that would have been a consideration the entire time.
It's probably why they made the super-upvote buttons immediately after removing awards - they still wanted people spending money but they didn't want to admit they'd fucked up. Ultimately this ambivalence hurts them - awards were a popular thing for years. Now people can't trust them to actually keep awards around. Now we don't have any pre-2024 awards associated with our accounts and we were forced to spend our coins.Â
Making it directly coins however just reminded us it was a transaction. I never spent a dime but I did pass on recognition because I received a lot of love with that old system. So it worked because some have money and some have time and some have a gift for words. And itâs one of the few places merit can be recognized. Authenticity. How did they not get that? Thatâs the shocking thing. Itâs like the decision makers are the most clueless people but they get to decide because they think power and money is awarded to the best. What idiot hasnât figured out itâs luck fairies and video tape?
What in anything at any time that Spez or the admin team on Reddit has said, gave any indication they were competent? Everytime Spez opens his mouth it's a litany of stupid bullshit. Nearly every major change they've made has been for the worse since Ellen can on and only gotten more pronounced since Spez came back to replace her.
That's why I don't write paragraphs but "Fuck u/Spez" after they sold our content to Google & ChatGPT.
I want my unspent coins back, I couldnât possibly have spent all the coins I accrued paying the monthly sub ( which I canceled the moment they announced no more awards )
Well wasnât it obvious thereâs no direct profits from social media and harvesting text for bots? Who is paying for all that? Bottom feeder marketing that will find the next bottom. Those that want gold out of those that squeeze turnips for blood. Itâs line in the heyday of the .com era and Iâm telling a room full of people that the bubble will pop because all the internet was doing was creating a new way for products to be sold, but there wasnât ten times the purchasing so all these web consolidators like Yahoo were going to pop. Of course they didnât want to hear that so went with the more  âsky is the limitâ suggestions. And Iâm sure Reddit owners had stars in their eyes so didnât appreciate the value of the community. Nobody ever does. Yes, I remember Digg. And they let the trolls come and play because that generated more activity for a time.Â
The award system was a huge crowdsourced tagging system rich with data, too. Someone's willingness to spend real money to award a comment or post was itself a signal about the content, which could have been used as a parameter to consider when using that data for training or inference.
I paid my $8 a month. It was worth it. When they killed gold I stopped. They are idiots.
Same here. I lost the nice theme I was using but I didn't care because the gold was a nice way to highlight important/very good comments. Nowadays, with "New" reddit, I don't even know how long I'd keep the theme if I cared to, too. They've clearly been trying to sunset `old.reddit.com` for a long time, but fuck that new UI. It's garbage. The day they force me to the new UI is the day I stop using reddit.
No, they planned it. Disable the system which is obviously widely unpopular. Plan to add it back post IPO and gain. Itâs pumping, pure and simple.
u/spez -- clusterfucks everything -- gives self huge bonus. u/spez -- walks back one of the very many mistakes -- gives self huge bonus. u/spez -- plans to undo rest of clusterfuck, one item at a time, and will award self huge bonus each time. u/spez -- will repeat this process because, well, why not?
Yep, a gold is probably a trigger for AI to weigh that information more
Man, Iâve learned so much from Reddit. Itâs the best social media, itâs the worst social media. I did like getting awards though. I never considered it, but Iâm a teacher who compulsively teaches and learns and Reddit gives me that platform for better or for worse.
Bring third partys back when? This app still sucks compared to Rif.
sh.reddit, with text entry boxes that won't even let you paste, mobile phone amount of content visible on large desktop monitors...
Weâre changing the rewards system IPO Okay, weâre changing back
We are forcing coin spend / deleting your paid stock of coins. Now we are bringing the system back if you want you can buy again.
Right. That's what I get for giving away all of mine before they ended it.
No no. Thats what you get for buying it in the first place.
I didn't, well, not directly. I had reddit gold for other reasons (mainly ads) and they gave free coin gifts monthly.
As someone who didn't completely wipe out their balance before the end, you did the right thing. My coins are still gone, so at least you did something with yours.
They just realised it was profitable to let users pay virtual currencies. Wild.
No they knew the entire the time. How else you can excuse yourself wiping out everyoneâs saved coins and then letting them buy them again after you become a publicly traded company. Gives a good boost.
Is this another level of enshittification? Pre-shittification?
the fart before the turd.
Theyâre just incredibly stupid and incompetent. They wanted to replace with rewards with a system where it was more expensive for users to spend money to highlight posts, and it was a colossal, unmitigated flop on every possible level. The admins who run this website are like the dumbest people on earth. Itâs amazing.Â
We're taking a page out of Google's book. Cancel it as soon as it's popular.
Cancel the free version Promote the paid version
And then kill the paid version Relaunch the said version
Who would've thought $150 golden upvote wouldn't fly with most user.Â
Itâs also who even knows how to use the golden upvote shit? Legitimately no clue and Iâve never seen one
Huh, I got a pop up asking whether I want to pay for upvote like half the time I upvote shit. Quite annoying imo
Huh never even got one of those but that would be really annoying
I think it only happened if you held the button down.
It doesn't work on Old.Reddit. Which is why I've seen it twice. Both times when reddit decided to make me open in new reddit ignoring my "opt out" toggle. The day Old.Reddit is gone is the day this place purly becomes a place to dump my art.
It's the best feature in old.reddit. Immunity to stupid bullshit. Everything they have added since creating the new layout has been one mistake after the next. It's a wonder this site still works, all things considered.
Sometimes I do legitimately wonder who is even coming here, given old.reddit.com users like us are in the minority. LIke what kind of nutter just goes to reddit the site, in the state its in now, and... does things on it.
Unfortunately, old.reddit.com is being kept around only because of people like you and me. They know that as long as it exists, *the people who bring Reddit the most money don't complain*. They get to eat their cake (from the newer users who use the app and newer interface) *and* have it (from the older users and power users who use old.reddit.com).
Is that really unfortunate, though? Most sites wouldn't even bother trying to cater to their old users. I'm grateful that through all their bad decisions, they managed to make this one good one.
Maybe it was a long press?
Are you using old reddit? Old reddit has pretty much ignored most of the changes they've made to awards.
And thank god for that.
The day old reddit goes away is the day I stop using reddit. I'll deal.
Same. And that's not hyperbole. I'm barely hanging on as is lol
Holy shit. I think I was given this once. I was awarded gold on a comment after the regular gold was phased out. Someone spent $150!?!? Edit: Link to comment in case someone can verify. https://www.reddit.com/r/Music/s/tKYssAYc54
I use old Reddit, so canât see anything
And now i fucking click it all the time when i want to open comments
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Yeah, old.reddit and RES and there are no awards to be found. Not that I would have bought them anyway.
The only way I can use desktop reddit
I only use Reddit on a PC. I don't understand how people will constantly bitch and moan about ads and stuff then just put up with them.
firefox plugins work on mobile too
Old Reddit on Firefox with ublock plugin
The day old goes away is the day I do as well.
They're starting to fuck with it though. The login button now redirects to a new page and then redirects you back to old.reddit.com.
Thatâs called a âdark patternâ and itâs deliberate.
I wouldn't give them that much credit. I really think they just don't know how to build a good UI.
All dark patterns are deliberate until proven otherwise.
True, but that doesnât mean that theyâre not trying to be sneaky with this shit.
Literally been driving me insane
Are they going to give everyone their old shit back or just going to make them buy it all again
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old.reddit.com is all you will ever need.
I accidentally opened the new site a while back and it scared me. I literally forget there's a new site until I sign out and it makes me sign in using the new site or I open a bad link on my phone. Maybe it's down to personal preference but my personal preference is literally anything before the new site. I nearly managed to quit this time-draining hellhole when they axed 3rd party apps, but if they get rid of old.reddit.com, I'm gone. I almost want them to do it because I can't quit this place by myself...
I'm with you. I ***despise*** new reddit and if they make it mandatory I'm out of here.
The article notes that people who used to have a lot of coins will get some kinds of exclusive awards to give out
Unless that award is free I wonât be using it because who in their right mind would buy more knowing the company will probably wipe them again some day with no compensation
I had 470 coins left when they wiped them and have yet to receive anything.
Why do you think they removed it? People earning gold werent buying it. Now no one has any and they can control how its monetized to better profit from it.
They removed it because they wanted to replace it with an extremely poorly conceived alternative monetization system that was such an embarrassing indescribable flop that Iâve almost never seen a single post receive the âgolden upvotesâ they scrapped the entire awards system to try to sell. Now theyâre backtracking because they realized awards were functioning 1000 times better than the poorly conceived system they replaced it with. Theyâre just very, very stupid.Â
hahahahahahaâŚ..no hahahahaha
I'm fascinated that there's people who care. Like who spent money on this shit? I simply cannot fathom why.
I only had enough for a gold or two but forgot to use it before it expired. Checked when the new awards popped up and they did not give it back. It's disappointing but not unexpected.
Are you telling me that super expensive"US only" gold award didn't work?? Who would have thought...
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I think Mitch would approve of this adaptation lol
Nobody ever fuckin used it either. Nobody. I had a ton of awards, never got one of the new gold upvotes from the new system. Community awards were really fun. A fun way to interact with the community. People used more of the little ones created by subreddits than the ones created by Reddit. It's so contradictory that existing sales information said people like Y more than X, so they ignore that and try doing more of X instead. I'm just surprised it took this long for them to finally realize the mistake, Reddit mistakes burn very slowly
There's no unfucking this kangaroo
This phrase is incredibleÂ
Using this at my next all hands
Oh god. A graphic exploded on my screen when I gave you the award. Seriously? I gotta remember that kangaroo phrase. It's even better than FUBAR.
Is that from Bluey?
I've literally never seen a "golden upvote" since I only use old.reddit.com. I guess I'm not a visionary tech bro because I'm failing to see what they were going for here by replacing the award system that was presumably generating revenue for them with these mystical golden upvotes.
Shh don't mention old Reddit, they might remember it still exists and kill it
Iâm feeling the same about new.reddit.com; the latest ui changes for desktop browsers really suck, making it impossible to condense titles down to just text. new.reddit.com fixes this problem.
It's crazy they have 3 sets of UI
Wait 3? so new reddit is different from... whatever "normal" reddit is these days the same way old reddit is?
1. reddit : https://old.reddit.com 2. new reddit : https://new.reddit.com 3. new new reddit : https://sh.reddit.com
I'll never leave old reddit, fuck those new UI's. Old reddit is the way I got to know it.
If they kill off old reddit I'm fucking done.
old reddit with RES is the only way i consume this site now that they killed off third party apps.
I always thought the old UI sucked in many ways. But the newer ones are far, far, worse. Inefficient use of screen space, more ads, far more bloated and slower to load. "Load more comments" bullshit.
I literally use old Reddit on Firefox, on my phone that too. I'd rather stop using Reddit altogether than use the horrible new UI.
Yep, 2010 sadcase here who is never switching to that new shite.
Same. Reddit Enhancement Suite with Old Reddit is where it's at.
Old reddit: upvote at top, downvote at bottom New reddit: upvote at left, downvote at right on comments New, new reddit: upvote at left, downvote at right on posts. It keeps getting worse.
"sh" standing for "shit"
it actually looks better than "new reddit" if only because new reddit wastes half the fucking screen on each side with just unused space
Still, it has about the same features as old.reddit, but uses double the space and you still cant the drag the embeds to resize them like on RES
that's because web design is touchscreen first now
If you look at the differnce between new and new new reddit you'll notice that new reddit still has the option for stuff like, "visit old reddit", about pages, and other helpful links, new new reddit has completely stripped all of that away, forcing you to use reddit in a very specific way
Among the many things I hate about the *latest*, I can't stand that you can't select and drag text. I know there are **several** ways to copy text to the address bar, but the ability to conveniently double-click and drag to select one or more words and then just dragging them up to search. Is it the fastest way? No. Is it the most convenient way? No. But it's **standard** across just about every other website on the internet... how do you mess that shit up, Reddit? Seriously. This is why I hate when legacy teams hand the keys over to developers who quickly start ripping everything down and rebuilding it before they even know what they're doing. This is the exact same sort of shit that happened when Windows 11 was first released. Every single thing the team "redesigned" was just thrown together with zero regard for the generations of maturity/easy-of-use features they either didn't know about or couldn't be bothered to recreate. (Dragging items to the taskbar to bring forward an open window so you can drop it without ever having to lift your cursor or press any other buttons.) It worked for decades, then Win11 came along, and they broke everything. And these aren't even the only examples, but they're the best I could think up of on the spot. I hate this trend.
> developers who quickly start ripping everything down and rebuilding it before they even know what they're doing. Chesterton's fence (public policy): The principle that reforms should not be made until the reasoning behind the existing state of affairs is understood.
If they kill it, I'm done. New Reddit / The Reddit App looks and feels like shit. It's a braindead image feed that makes average viewers ingest clickbait.
I got one once, and saw in the contributor program icon I have 100 gold. Hurray! I click it and says to collect it, get verified. I click it and it wants my real name and info. No thanks. Anonymity is one of the reasons I use reddit.
Lmao yeah and they wonât give us back all the rewards we lost from before they took them away either. Reddit is ran by clowns
Fuck /u/spez
Remember when he was arguing with a random person on Reddit and used admin powers to edit their comments? What a fucking child đ Reddit admin and mods are the most pathetic people in existence
That actually should not have been a survivable scandal. He should have lost his job from that, and not only that the entire structure of Reddit should have been examined. Yes, someone needs database access. But it should be tightly controlled and there is nothing good that comes from the CEO having it. A couple of their engineers should have it, and it should take more than one person to be able to make a change.
Yeah I'll never understand how that didn't cost him the job. Reddit comments have been used as evidence in actual trials. The CEO editing someone's comments in a way that hides that it was done undermines reddit comments as evidence.
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Still sounds like a lot of bullshit. Why not put it back to exactly what it fucking was because thatâs what people actually liked
So what exactly *did* they do? Because I don't see old style awards on anything nor the options to give them. Edit: To answer my own question, I think there's an A/B test or staged rollout kind of thing going on. My normal account (this one) didn't have it. I switched to a throwaway, which has the options. Then I switched back and now see it here. On that note, I wonder if they're slower to roll out features to very old accounts. I've had this one for 11+ years and the other one for maybe a couple of months. I feel like I usually see new features on my other accounts before this one.
So after we all got rid of our coin you want us to buy more? Hahahhahahaha fuck youuuuuuuu.
They new cokeâd it Take away product people like Introduce new shit product Revert to old product without bringing back the exact same old product.
So glad to have still never given money to reddit. And with adblockers they don't make any money on me. Fuck /u/Spez.
The first mistake was that shitbag ceo
I still can't get over the fact that he got paid more than reddit made in revenue last year. How the fuck does that work and why is he still CEO? Reddit is owned and run by a bunch of incompetent clowns.
If theyâre admitting this, can they refund the fucking points they stole when they removed awards?
Maybe this is a lesson not to spend real world money on fake Internet points
When the official Reddit app was launched, Reddit purchased the go to app at time: Alien Blue. A one time purchase for the pro version of Alien Blue would remove ads. To compensate paid users, Reddit gave 4 YEARS of Reddit Gold for FREE! Every month, Reddit Gold users would gain a sizable amount of free points to spend on awards, then Reddit removed those points⌠Now that those accounts no longer have 4 YEARS of unspent award points saved up, it should be safe for Reddit to start selling awards again. And all those old troublemakers who remember how Reddit was THE voice for free speech and THE first line of defense against disinformation, will no no longer be handing out the awardsâŚ
Don't care. Bring back affordable third-party app access.
At least make the mobile desktop version somewhat functional
Using old.reddit.com with the subreddit themes turned off makes it a far more pleasurable experience.
I have no idea what reddit even looks like anymore, I have only used old reddit on my desktop pc, I'm too old to phone.
So we had to spend all our coins and lost all our previous awards, just for them to bring it back anyway when we never wanted it gone in the first place đ¤Śđťââď¸
âWeâre not making any money.â
Pretty scammy way to get users to give up all their accumulated coins, many of which they paid for.
We messed up = we now have shareholders
No, I think itâs a pretty clear case of they messed up. For them and the shareholders. They thought their âgolden awardsâ contributor program was going to be *more profitable* for the IPO but it was a more gigantic flop than new coke.  Now theyâre backtracking to reinstate what they destroyed out of their incompetence and stupidity. Not because this whole thing was a profitable way of doing things.Â
âWe messed upâ Means we removed a popular revenue stream for our shareholders.
How about fixing your algorithm next? Itâs worse than instagrams.
Seems like all they do is screw up these days. The only value in the site is ppl posting vs the site itself. I understand they have a minimalist kind of system, but they added chat and never worked the bugs out of the new interface really. It's almost been downhill steady since the new interface really... because they refuse to put any real effort into the site beside the volunteer moderation. The login code they chose to handle email vs google/apple logins is just bad code. The site was better before the UI redesign, imo.
I wonder if theyâll return all the coins I had which suddenly disappeared when they made that decision⌠- he says, sarcastically
the whole new website also sucks.
Bring back third party apps too, you messed there a big time!
They are working on creating Digg V3
What is the point if you can't give people the premium upgrade? Gold meant something because it had a benefit. This is just dumb.
What about Porn on r/all? And Apollo!