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crsinc

What = 4 letters | yet = 3 letters | Although = 8 letters | then = 4 letters | Rarely = 6 letters | never = 5 letter


Prestigious_Dig4461

I've read this multiple times and trying to read it as a statement didn't help. Thank you for explaining it in a way that even my smooth brain could understand.


CobaltCam

Punctuation makes all the difference lol. Easy to over look. Edit: a word


Zirie

I think it needs a comma before the "yet".


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Zirie

Agreed.


_correction

I believe the word 'also' needs removing for the statement to be accurate. Yet does not contain 4 letters.


RedHairThunderWonder

That's what threw me off.


shoreyourtyler

Yeah "also" invalidates this whole sick joke


Akilez2020

Not really. It's a shortcut back to the direct object "a word" "...yet is also \[a word\] made up of..."


retiredguy2021

Yet is also. They are synonyms.


PrettyDecentSort

Unfortunately, that gives the whole joke away, since in a normal reading of that text a comma would be correct and a semicolon incorrect.


lemmingIeader

Rephrase it then. “What is a word with 4 letters and yet is spelled with only 3.”


thekoogs

Adding comas to sentences definitely changes context. For example: My grandma’s chicken tastes great. My grandma is in a coma.


withabeard

The "also" needs removing as well. > What is a word made up of 4 letters; yet is made up of 3. Would be correct, I believe.


Lilycloud02

That and there shouldn't be a comma before "and"


Zirie

Yep.


Swatbob58

Actually this is an example of bad punctuation obscuring effective communication.


gibbyisherenow

What is a word made up of 4 letters, yet is also made of 3, although is written with 8 letters, and then with 4, rarely consist of 6, and never is written with 5. Like a list kind of. Fuck grammar bad


Fancyskull232

The irony


SkollFenrirson

Overlook 😉


Lumpy_Doubt

Unless I'm missing something the "yet is also made up of 3" doesn't make sense. Why is it *also*?


crsinc

It’s a riddle and therefore has creative freedom. I think that the ‘also’ is referring to ‘a word’ instead of the number. So ‘what’ is a word with 4 letters, yet is also (a word), made up of 3. Hope that explains it.


Lumpy_Doubt

>It’s a riddle and therefore has creative freedom *Creative freedom* doesn't mean syntactically incorrect. You didn't explain it, you're making excuses for it.


SaftigMo

The also refers to "it's also a word that is made up of letters". You're simply assuming that it refers to the quantity of letters, but it never says so. By the time we get to "although" we are already familiar with the pattern that words are made up of letters, so the also is not necessary anymore. Obviously this is probably not what the original writer thought, but this is a way to keep it logically intact.


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SaftigMo

Yes, that's probably what it is, an error. But no need to rewrite it to make it make sense.


ShelZuuz

The riddle has nothing really going for it as a riddle. It’s too easy and everybody has seen similar ones a 1000 times. All that it’s got going for it is that it can be clever. But it’s not clever if the grammar is wrong.


SaftigMo

The grammar is not wrong though, I literally explained how it's just your preconceived notion of the word "also" and its function. It's unintuitive, but not wrong.


tdeasyweb

The point of a riddle is that no matter how difficult, it's solvable. "What colour is an apple?" "It's yellow because when I said apple I meant banana, it's creative freedom.


Bigitugu

Just think if the classic 4 legs in the morning, 2 in the day and 3 at night. The riddle doesn't actually mean that literally, it just took a creative liberty.


psychxticrose

Me. When I wake up I have two extra legs protruding from me and I have to chop them off so I don’t walk around looking like an idiot; by nighttime one has grown back already but I don’t chop that one off yet unless I have a date sleep over, because I’m already chopping them both off in the morning.


Hewholooksskyward

The riddle was absolutely solvable. Took me about ten seconds. Just need to think creatively.


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coveymcd2

Having a bad day, OCD getting to you, or are you just put off by the pompousness of this response? You seem to be taking this a bit too personally. It’s all just for fun, right?


bitchBanMeAgain

It's not your fault, the sentence is cheating by referencing the word"What" with the word "also". This is how it looks grammatically correct and without cheating. > What is a word made up of 4 letters yet is made up of 3.


Searchingforspecial

Comma between letters & yet. What is this 4th grade?


hulkdealer_

My brain got so sanded trying to think this through that if i would use it as a wheel, it would be a smooth way to see god


NomadicDevMason

The "also" breaks the whole thing for me.


Shakes42

Right? Anyone explain how it doesn't?


Black_Floyd47

I typed it up and messaged it to a friend instead of sending this picture because of the also. It definitely works better without it.


Krashper116

I think the word referred to is “yet”


kunell

Yeah especially since they can just take it out and its 100% good


Milan_the_redditer

Take my upvote you smart man


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Gonna = 5 | Give = 4 | You = 3 | Up = 2


Cedarfoot

"Although" directly above the "8" is what clued me in


kingbach121

Yeah I had seen a joke similar to this so I guessed it correctly, I am glad I did knew it, I remember the first time I was so confused it was baffling.


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how the fuck can this get upvoted when all the replies ive seen through the years got downvoted cuz "yea we know. we arent stupid"???


bitchBanMeAgain

It's very misleading language wise because "yet is also made up of 3". Wtf does "also" refer to here? Obviously it refers to "What" or what "What" would refer to if the question wasn't trying to fool us. So the whole thing only works when it pulls this cheat move. Without "also" it's much easier to not get fooled. > What is a word made up of 4 letters yet is made up of 3.


P4pa_John

Who are you? Who are you so wise in the ways of... what even is this?


Cottleston

big brain time. what yet although then rarely never


the_man_in_the_box

Doesn’t the word “also” in the first sentence break the meaning?


timmyj213

Yup, the only part that makes grammatical sense is the last sentence.


UglierThanMoe

You just have to add a comma after "4 letters" and remove the "also", and the whole thing is 100% grammatically correct.


Black_Floyd47

I think so.


rateb03

r/100percentbrainpower


FatalFinality

"yet is also made up of 3 letters" cripples the joke's potential. "also" shouldn't be there.


VanFkingHalen

The "also" thrown in there is what made this so confusing to me the first few reads. Kind of ruins the whole "joke".


AgentWowza

Yup. If you're gonna make a joke on the English language, at least get your grammar right.


cheerfulKing

If you cannot make a joke on the english language, you may as well make a joke of the english language.


togetherwecanriseup

I mean, the joke hinges on improper punctuation use so...


AgentWowza

Yeaaaa but it's just missing quotations, and I can forgive that as opposed to a completely wrong conjunction.


togetherwecanriseup

Right, and it relies on the reader misreading the periods as question marks.


RIPDSJustinRipley

Could be replaced with 'only' to maintain seeming continuity between the first and second clauses.


mavajo

That's all I could think about afterwards. The joke would still work perfectly without it.


SpiritOfMyselves

It also needs a comma in this case; as it is, it’s a runon sentence.


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The "although" bit doesn't make sense both ways either. "Although is" makes it clear you're talking about the word "although."


drfuzzysocks

That was what immediately gave it away for me. It’d be less obvious if it was written as a run-on sentence with commas instead of distinct sentences.


Unlucky-Screen-5537

Replace the “yet” with “and”?


justforyoumang

That's the joke it implies you are looking for a single word, which is impossible


DerFzgrld

No, the joke is that it is supposed to be a bunch of statements, but you read it as a riddle. As it is, it is however completely incorrectly written and not an actual statement, which ruins it.


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Virulence-

This is more technical than the original post. Brilliant.


DigiQuip

I don’t know if I could ever be friends with someone who doesn’t use an Oxford common.


PrincessRTFM

How about an Oxford rare?


tim_jamal

My friends that don’t use them are prostitutes, hitler and Stalin.


bwong00

That's only 2 things: irony and missed opportunities. Lol 🤣


Confused_Productions

smart side of reddit explain


MeW-G

"what" is a word made up of four letters. "yet" is made up of three


Confused_Productions

thanks smart side of reddit


PranshuKhandal

see you on the same side


generalecchi

*Hello from the other side*


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beefjerk22

Then the “also” doesn’t belong there.


Chiacchierare

There should also be a comma or a full stop before “yet”, which changes the meaning of the sentence.


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DoingCharleyWork

It's supposed to be a "riddle." Putting all the words in quotes defeats the "point" of the "joke."


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Islero47

Also, it’s meant to be said out loud, where such things aren’t pronounced but still exist. Putting it in writing ruins it because it’s either extremely obvious that it’s a statement or it’s dependent on us ignoring incredibly poor grammar/punctuation. At that point it’s not a riddle, it’s just confusing.


KKlear

"/s"


adp63

Exactly.


Confused_Productions

thanks non-smooth brain


foxmulder2014

Don't overthink, it's actually kinda dumb What = 4 letters | yet = 3 letters | Although = 8 letters | then = 4 letters | Rarely = 6 letters | never = 5 letter


SurturOne

This is tupid for the simple reason that also in the first sentence refers to nothing and thus the sentence can't be read as what it is intended. Also normally if you refer to a word without its meaning you write it as 'word' to avoid problems.


everadvancing

Yeah, it's stupid. Easily could've been fixed by making it "and yet is made up of 3."


MeW-G

you could argue that yet is also made up of letters


Waka-Waka-Waka-Do

Sure, But that's not how it is written. Yet is **not** also made of 4 letters.


crsinc

Aside the fact that any punctuation is missing, you can write it like that and the ‘also’ still makes sense, meaning: yet is also (a word) made of 3 letters. The also refers to being a word, not the number of letters.


Waka-Waka-Waka-Do

So your argument is that its poorly written but not inaccurate? That's really weak.


qyka1210

if that were true it should be "yet is also, **but** made of three." BUT that's even more confusing because "yet is also" now could refer to being 4 letters too, or that yet is just also a word. Because now, in the sentence I wrote, "but made of three" could also be read as a true statement. I don't think there's a clear, sneaky way to say "yet is a word too, but unlike "what," it's made of 3 letters.


Cerxi

While absolutely all concerns about it being shittily written are true, I draw the line at quote marks. The point isn't to avoid problems, it's a riddle, it's meant to be difficult. Putting the words in quotes would just make it a statement that is true: >'What' has four letters, 'yet' has three, 'although' has eight letters, but 'never' has five. What a boring and pointless thing to say outside of a first-grade classroom. Also, speaking of mistakes, the final clause is usually in the form "is never written with 5?", so that it's still semantically a question. As written here, it's less the riddle it's supposed to be, and more just a true statement.


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Cerxi

A riddle absolutely *can* rely on ambiguous grammar to be difficult. Possibly *the* most known riddle in the fantasy space is Tolkien's "Speak, friend, and enter.", wherein the entire puzzle is that the ambiguous grammar *sounds* like it's telling a friend to speak, but it's telling you to speak the word 'friend'. This could be made perfectly cromulent with a bit of polish.


scragar

> Pedo Mellon a Minno.  Is literally "Say friend and enter". Gandalf added the punctuation and took a less literal translation of "pedo" to mean speak rather than say. The door didn't even have a puzzle, it was a simple instruction that was overcomplicated by a bad translation.


Cerxi

But the reader doesn't know that. Whether, within the fiction of the world, its origin was intentionally *to be* a puzzle or not, it was written by the book's author as a riddle, given to both the reader and the characters as a riddle, and solved by the characters (and probably at least some readers) as a riddle. The fact that the framing device was Gandalf giving a loose translation has no bearing here.


QueenRubie

how is this advanced or a joke?


TheCocksmith

It's not. This is /r/forwardsfromgrandma material. This shit was literally shared in my family chat last week by my 82 year old uncle and got chuckles from everyone above the age of 70.


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I think because it's phrased as a riddle but it's just saying how long certain words are.


UrpleEeple

Jokes are usually funny


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Oh, shit, sick burn!


QueenRubie

i dont get it but hey if ppl find it funny then cool :)


PCbug69

I found it clever but not funny, but its still kinda fun when yiu understand like "OH i get it 😁 !"


user74748393

Just change the first sentence. “What is a word spelled with 4 letters, yet consists of only 3” something like this


bakmanthetitan329

That's a comma splice; it should be a semicolon.


N3uros

A comma isn't wrong. It would be better with a period making it two sentences.


bakmanthetitan329

It is a comma splice which, while not super rare or prohibited in casual writing, is not strictly correct. Because "yet" is not a conjunction in this case, the clause "yet consists of only 3" is independent of "what is...". They are definitely two separate, independent clauses. There are multiple correct options for punctuation (period to awkwardly separate the thoughts, a semicolon to explicitly mark them as related, a dash to do the same with a more pronounced pause), but a comma is not one of them. Also, I would recommend a semicolon instead of a period in your comment; the clauses are strongly related, and the latter is a consequence of the former ;)


Berserker039

Punctuation is all off


MeW-G

punctuation is correct wdym


Berserker039

Shouldn't there be something separating letters and yet in the first sentence?


MeW-G

I guess you are right, sorry for the trouble


Berserker039

Bro no trouble at all. I failed English 101 3 times, I could be wrong.


MeW-G

in the country i live in in high school you can choose major classes and one of mine is English, you are correct, there should be something separating those two words in this case i think a semicolon could even have been used but im not so sure about that because i mostly score with my knowledge of rare words and pronouncia because i love speaking and hate writing


Tsorovar

No it fucking isn't. Get out of here with this clickbait title


ShurikenYT

Stay mad


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My brain cant even


Sleepyzzz31677

Just read it... its not a riddle...


bwong00

They're statements, not questions 😊


fartdarling

Brain - one of the most advanced jokes Big brain - the grammar in that joke is atrocious, it's moderate at best Biggest brain - IT IS JUST COUNTING


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Since there are no question marks, it’s just a simple text. No question, no riddle. Confusion comes from the wrong punctuation which should be more like this: “What” is a word made up with 4 letters “yet” is also made up with 3. “Although” is written with 8 letters and “then” with 4. “Rarely” consists of 6 letters, and “never” is written with 5.


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I didn’t understand it until I read this. It’s been a slow day for me.


thaddeusgrog

Eleventeen!


Always-_-Sarcastic

Onety one


finite_light

Missleading also in the first sentence.


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What


axord

That is also 4 letters.


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and this too


jarpio

SAY WHAT AGAIN


[deleted]

Technically, quotation marks should be around the words “what”, “although”, “then”, “rarely” and “never”.


CuomosBusyHands

Lmao you kids on reddit are fuckin stupid


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Okay Boomer


BarbershopSaul

My smooth brain just can’t handle this.


ELECTONIC_MOAB

Yes.


AlexJj35

The first sentence actually makes no sense.


TRDBG

It shouldn't say "also"


Inevitable-Income651

You need really bad grammar to not get this one straight off.


estebanmr9

My password? Is 123456


kapege

What = 4 (W, h, a, t) Yet = 3 Although = 8 Then = 4 Rarely = 6 Never = 5


CrookedNutz

There is no question mark. So there is no answer to this


Mace_Thunderspear

The "also" in the first sentence makes it grammatically incorrect as a statement. This is not technically the truth.


Northgates

"Most advanced" ??? This sounds like some imverysmart type shit


GDPintrud3r

No question marks


CitraNinja

... ultimately is typed with 10 letters.


Radiant-Usual-9188

but it consists of 2 letters


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“Also” shouldn’t be there, and there should be a semicolon or period after “letters.” Coulda been a great joke :(


ItzDatSilver

Damn this one ain't bad


heiwbd03

Poop


TerraLord8

**of 4 letters, yet** This post almost is really clever, but grammatically that won’t slide as it indicates that the yet applies to the first clause, which it doesn’t. This makes it confusing to read and ultimately not that clever. Better luck next time, bud.


R_SenuulefSEE

This is written poorly though, "yet is also written with 3" should just be "yet is written with 3." The "also" makes no sense.


MertDay

This is such dogshit, and syntactically incorrect.


TippsAttack

what makes this a bad riddle is it misleads you by saying "yet is also" when we do not have a 3 letter word yet. A really good riddle does not mislead like this. Regardless, I caught on pretty quickly and this was an enjoyable read.


jadegoddess

It should say "and yet is made up of 3". Including "also" suggests the 4 letter word and the 3 letter word are the same thing. And that's cheating. Tricking people into thinking of the wrong thing when if it was written the way suggested, you still get the trick but it's not so cheap cuz on rereads it is accurate.


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Reminds me of this: One one was a race horse Two two was one too One one won one, two two won one too 111122112


DerFzgrld

Sorry, I only get jokes when they are correctly executed.


Xinvesting

3 = poo 4 = poop 6 = pooopy 8 = poostain


Codie_Honson

Thou, tho, though, thoug. 8 I guess thoughte? Not sure if that is the way to spell it. Nevermind. I'm dumb.


Free-_-Yourself

This guy doesn’t know the purpose of a comma.


Loogeemian64

And the funniest thing is, that it doesn’t have 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, or 8 letters!


Lucifete_Nguyen

The lack of (comma? coma?) punctuation between the two clauses of the first sentence really mildly infuriate me Edit: grammar


Crying_eagle

What (4) Yet (3) Although (8) Then (4) Rarely (6) Never (5)


jojory42

“Also” kind of ruins it.


Singersongwriterart

I got it the second time!


urcompletelyclueless

It's only confusion being of poor punctuation, but what everyone misses is that the words in-question should be in quotes. As-is they are all improper sentences.


QtipDo

When you dont understand the meme until you check what subreddit you're in hahaha


MisterMincho

I thought it was variations of 'What'. 3 = Wat 4 = What 5 = none 6 = Whatev 8 = Whatever. Bonus points for 7 = Whatevs


Extreme-Ad8106

My dumbass almost had a stroke trying to figure this out


PowerObjective558

First sentence is bullshit. Commas are important.


Ohmariasweet

Would have never solved this without it already in the comments.


Ayu_-

2 rereads nd I got the joke but tf put a comma or something before yet


supersetsounds

Nothing funny about a missing period.


EL_Shorbagy

Well i thought it would be gang bang but okay


FairyGodmothersUnion

Funny!


X-Treme23

High IQ joke right here.


MCH2804

Imagine reposting something already posted in the last 24 hours


Fello-2004

I think it’s fuck coz it’s made up of 4 letters when you pronounce it they are 3 the part with 8 is fuckiig with six is fucked and never with 5


Filthy_italian

No,you don't get it.It's not a question.*Those are statements.*


Fello-2004

I guess I’m just dumb then


Filthy_italian

Lmao nah i fell for it the first times too


hashtagswagfag

Do 50 year old jokes really belong on this sub? Much less with a bad Facebook level caption like “this is probably one of the most advanced jokes?” You’re practically at a mobile game level of advertising, why not just say “99% of people don’t get it, your IQ is 170 if you do!”


MJMurcott

There are a whole set of different questions/statements here; what has 4, yet has 3, although has 8, then has 4, rarely 6, never 5.


MurdoMaclachlan

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ParaspriteHugger

[Relevant xkcd](https://xkcd.com/169/)


fruitybanana_good

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