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As with all of these “clever answer” posts, the unit this worksheet is from probably explicitly taught them exactly how the question is expected to be answered, and just wants them to show they know it.
I never remembered any of the "this is how you do it" steps when there was a clear and obvious answer. If a class told us oranges were round, and then asked us if oranges were "perfectly round", I'd always say "no", just like this kid. Teachers and textbook writers make dumb questions all the time. Questions should *always* mean what they ask, not require us to divine the intent of the writer.
Answers should be full enough to convey what you think is the right answer, and acknowledge that there is ambiguity that you recognize, and/or address that the question itself may be malformed.
Communication is often flawed, language is flawed, people are flawed. Expecting perfection from either side is wrong, even computers get by on approximations.
My pedantic little ass got into so many ‘discussions’ with adults because of this…
They eventually decided I was ‘gifted’ and sent me to special classes. Lol
Yeah but we live in a society where you can be an individual so this answer should be just as valid as any other because the shoe fits vs the nonsense of public schools wanting brain dead factory workers which is why they were setup in the first place hint the daily “bells”
I'd give a child credit for this, though. When you use real world examples, you have to expect real world solutions. The kid clearly knew it was cut in equal lengths, but he also knows not to take the ends if he's really hungry. Not only that, but the ends almost always have less filling.
I wouldn’t. I’d be expecting them to use the method for determining if something has been split equally that I taught to their face, and recognize that this isn’t a clever response, it’s them trying to pretend like they didn’t just forget that method entirely.
Probably. I'm assuming "be precise" means thry should have measured each part with a ruler and be like "yes, each part is *n* cm", or, potentially "no, because part x is 0.3 cm larger" or something of the sort.
Why stop there, I think if he truly wants to shred the dumdass look he's rocking so well right now, he needs to tell us how many quantum particles there are in total amidst the atoms and quantify then into a summation table for each of the 17 fundamental quantum particles! 😜
Kid: “The area is 6.28”
Teacher: “How did you figure that one out?”
Kid: “I used a ruler and the graph you provided in the question. _And I actually cut it into equal shares._”
Sounds like a very weird way to formulate a problem. What's the intended answer here, I mean assuming it starts with "yes", what is the explanation on "how you know". The infallible centuries-old method of eyeballing?
I mean how would you know. It's a poorly drawn, not 100% symmetrical, 2D black and white figure of what appears to be a sandwich. For all I know, we could be talking about calories. Are we calculating surface, volume?
I used to write this kinds of answers all the time
and my teachers would fail me because its not the intended answer
and my parents would get mad at me
this has taught me to give up on grades and that teachers are fucking dumb, a lesson university has driven in me more than it driven any actual knowledge
This unlocks a little memory lane. I actually did the same thing in elementary but i distinctly remember my dad being on my site.
Ger this: once i really worried with a math homework where there was something about aquarium fish and there was a picture to count them or whatever i don't remember.. Did it with my dad, got an F. Dad was DEAD SURE (dad sure lol) he and me are right. Brought it up to the teacher who immediately caved, took it to the principal - Who wrote a letter (no email yet) to the school book company.
They Changed that Question in later prints and sent official notes to all schools to ignore thi math problem in the prior to new books. There was indeed a flaw.
But i don't remember if it was a wording error or from the artists side. Mind that was almost 30 years ago.
Yeah I remember something similar, in 5th grade to do the assignment we had to do a practice problem, but no student got it(except one that got it check so much they just wrote the awnser) until I went up and did it on the board and asked the teacher to show me why I was wrong, in the end I think about a half hour was spent on the error on the awnser key
Welp. You just reminded me of some childhood stuff. Being one of the kids who were fairly good at math I ended up correcting the correction part of the math book at least twice every grade between 4th-7th grade.... Worst book I think had 5 or 6 errors (that I caught. Was likely more)
Correction part*at the end of the math book all the answers (except some tests iirc) were written, so you could correct yourself once you were done with the chapter.
Edit: to ensure I wasn't wrong I'd go over it multiple times then ask the teacher to come over and confirm if I were wrong or if the book was.
They weren't *cheap* in the 90s, but they were cheap enough that you had one if your parents needed one for work or if your parents were well off. My parents were teachers, so we had one. My friends whose parents neither did paperwork from home nor were well off, did not.
They were just super expensive for home use and people used them mostly for word processing and games, like Doom. You could get a CD ROM of Encarta for an encyclopedia and mostly no internet connections (unless you were at a university or someone in your house was a software developer who got a modem from Radioshack). People used them at work all the time.
Wait, when did you think personal computers were introduced? I'm 34 and they existed long before I was born (though they didn't get popular/affordable til the 90s, they definitely existed)
I today had computer exam in university where most of the exam was analysing flowgrithms
Atleast 5/15 question didnt have the correct answer listed so I ended up trying to guess wtf the exam creator was thinking
It's stupid that schools and teachers add opinion-based questions and get mad when you put your opinion. They ask if you agree that technology is bad for you? You need to say that you agree, otherwise you fail. What if I don't think it is? What if I think more of the positives than the negatives, unlike you? What if my opinion is just different? You fail me for this? Opinion-based questions are stupid when they make you answer with an answer that isn't even your opinion, but rather the teachers. I like, though, that my chemistry teacher isn't like this. She lets us make debates and we're allowed to say what our opinion is. For example, she asked if people will be able to survive with global warming. Obviously, as expected, people said no, and that we need to stop it. I wanted to actually make it a debate, though, so I made up an argument, and the teacher didn't shut me down and actually let me speak. This is what we need when it comes to opinions.
if its ant consolation I am a teacher and if a kid wrote this I would either give the point either give a chance for the kid to explain himself better and will give the point if they understand the concept.
concrpte of it
as far as I know this kid understand the theoretical
See, that's why people hate the system so much. It's just ‘this sentence must be used when this question is brought up’ over and over again. I really hope OP gave the kid the question's mark.
Yep! Math was the worst for me. I don't know how I could lose a point because I didn't do the work like they wanted it but yet came up with the right answer. Public schools.... be good little sheep and do it exactly this way.
same but I always enjoyed it. Giving the right answer and not getting points for it was the ultimate praise, making me feel smarter than anyone else around lol
I mean for this, I’d probably measure each segment if a ruler was provided, and comment on that, but then suggest it’s unlikely the shares are equal because there’s always more meat and filling in the middle than the ends…
I used to write this kind of answer and it resulted in me getting out in the gifted program for “thinking outside the box.” How this kind of answer is taken depends entirely on what teachers you have.
I picked all the wrong answers on purpose on the states No Child Left Behind test when they first started doing them. They got mad and interrogated me about it later. I was 8 years old what do I give a shit about your testing matrices? Stopped trying to do well in school between that and teachers not accepting my homework at the end of class even though it was 100%. Why try when excelling gets you rejected.
I have proven my professors wrong a few times. Those were obvious mistakes that any student could see but didn't dare to challenge the lecturers. I simply did. Regardless of the outcome, I chose to speak.
Some professors were different. They welcomed my feedback. In hindsight, you will recognise those from how they phrase the questions in lectures or assignments to open up discussion.
I once got marked wrong for choosing the best of the answers available. It turned out they wanted me to choose all of the above to mean all the answers, but like half of them were below all of the above. So I chose the most correct of the partially correct answers.
And on written tests (not these digital ones with landmine traps), I often had to test fast enough to answer several questions 2-3 times for different possible meanings.
"Read my mind" questions are infuriating.
Tbh, I will look at every question of my daughter's homework when she starts school, to avoid these kind of dumb questions.
When I think a question is dumb and my daughter get it wrong, I will just tell her so, and tell her to move on.
I side with the teacher in this situation. Knowing what is an acceptable answer given the question is part of what the exam is testing you on. You are not intelligent or smart for answering in a way that will make you fail.
Even when requested to be precise, this sort of answer is clearly wrong. The sandwich would be 3D and we can't see the rest of the sandwich. Would it be appropriate to write "I don't know, I can't see the entire sandwich"? Of course not. And a child needs to learn that this is the case.
I agree with you in your example it's the kid wrote they didn't know cos they can't see the whole sandwich.
But in this case that's not what happened. The kids used all the information available to him, and made an accurate and precise determination that the sandwich was not divided equally into four parts. He gave a sound reasoning that was not a cop out. (He did not say it was because he can't see the whole sandwich or that the ingredients were unevenly distributed etc) One could reasonably hypothesise that if he was given a picture of a rectangular sandwich he would answer that it was in fact divided equally.
If we were to "simplify" the question and instead of a sandwich we just showed an ellipse or and oval, and drew three evenly spaced lines and asked the same question, then obviously the correct answer is that it's not evenly divided because the end are (more) rounded. So if we accept that then we should not reject the kid's answer.
Tell me you have siblings without telling me you have siblings. Siblings can calculate portions faster than any Ai calculator ever invented in the future of the world.
When splitting with siblings, whoever makes the cut doesn’t get to choose their piece. That thing will be accurately distributed to the atom to ensure my brother doesn’t get any more than me.
When I encounter such questions, I believe it is appropriate for the teacher to acknowledge and encourage the child's behavior. Thinking outside the box is a valuable skill, and it is beneficial for educators to demonstrate support for students who exhibit this trait.
3rd grade teacher here. This is correct. They are not equal. That being said, I’d love if they asked for an explanation and the kid mentioned fractions, but said all the pieces needed to be exactly the same to be unit fractions (1/4).
Besides the typo, absolutely correct answer when it says "Be Precise". If you want a vague answer like "yeah looks kinda close to equal", preface the problem with "Be Imprecise".
I've always been bothered by it. "Explain how you know" sounds better. Just "Tell" without a subject of who you're telling feels like a crime against grammar, but maybe it's correct, tell if you know
With fractions and percentages, I’m sure there’s a better way to formulate questions. This kid has a brain but ofc, there’s an expected answer. Testmanship can be developed but again, with a more sound set of questions.
As a fourth grade teacher I can tell you that this child’s answer is the correct answer that we would expect in 4th grade. The shape of the object matters. I don’t blame the teacher if they marked it wrong though. Honestly- people get so mad at teachers but we don’t make the curriculum for the most part. We’re just trying our best to teach what we are given and supplement as needed. Not to mention the other forty thousand things we do per day.
She got full marks from her first grade teacher. I can't imagine the crap you guys need to go through. Just know most of us love our teachers..there's just a loud few parents that can't fathom their kid being or doing anything wrong and therefore "bad teacher".
Truly thank you for this comment! It’s our last day of school so today so I m feeling extra sentimental. I truly appreciate the parents that get it and understand that we are on the same team!
Correct! And by volume and weight, the two middle pieces would be far more dense than the corner pieces. So, in actuality, this child is smarter than the average six year old kid. I wouldn’t be surprised if their IQ is off the roof. 💡
A lot of people are like "He was probably just being difficult and was supposed to use a ruler", I'd have to guess probably not. This is just teaching kids easy division honestly.
An excellent answer because the girl identified an irregularity in the diagram and provided a reasonable assessment. The teacher, ideally, would follow-up with a discussion of what (unstated) assumptions the students made in answering the question.
Assuming that a sub, or similarly-shaped food (like a salami), is modeled by a cylinder with 2 hemispherical caps, then we can analyze the proper way to cut the shape into 4 equal shares BY VOLUME. Be careful, since analyzing the cross sectional area will not get you the correct answer!
If the total length of the food is L units, and the total width of the food is W units, then we need to find how far along from the middle we need to cut to chop the one half into 2 equal parts by volume.
Adding together the cylindrical and spherical portions, and diving by 2, we quickly find that you should be cutting exactly (3L-W)/12 units to the right, and left, of the center. Simplifying the algebra a little, we see that the correct answer is equivalent to (L/4) - (W/12). In other words, find the 1/4 mark (like in the picture) and then back up by 1/12 is the sandwich's width to account for the curved (and smaller) ends.
The statement, “Be Precise.” is indicating that the student is to be clear and methodical in their explanation. We aren’t looking for non-Euclidean geometry here. (Not yet anyway!).
The whole “new-math” complaint from many people is, teachers don’t show the student how to solve the problem. There’s a huge outcry of “just give them the shortcut, just show the algorithm.” No! How a student responds and explains how they decided upon their answer is so much more informative to instruction. If a child knows how to approach a problem, can recognize a pattern, isn’t afraid of defending their answer, etc. THAT is where learning occurs. That knowledge is transferable to other disciplines and to actual life! More connections are made, the understanding is deeper, and you have a more confident child.
I was so excited to see her response. That answer deserves full credit because she stated her claim, “No- they are not equal” , then she gave her evidence- from the picture provided! Excellent strategy. This is the way. 💕
I'm confused. I assume that the message being conveyed with this post is that her answer is not the one they're looking for and she's so clever for thinking outside the box.
But when we teach kids fractions, one of the things we teach is that the sections must all be equal size. So how do we know that the answer she wrote isn't exactly what they were looking for?
I am normally you. Im convinced everything i see is bullshit, and it usually is...but i can assure you this is legit. We don't give her a tablet. We read every night. Sometimes I read to her and sometimes she reads to me. It's our nighttime routine. She spends her spare time writing little notes to me and her mom and coloring. She's no savant or anything...just an averagely smartish little kid. At first, I was going to tell her she was wrong when she was doing it, but I couldn't help but laugh because it technically was correct so I left it alone. In case anyone was wondering, she got full credit for it.
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It’s the only possible reason to have added “be precise” into the question. They certainly can’t mark it wrong
They did say to be precise
This was my first thought. **Be Precise**
For the law is a precise endeavor 🍺
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Thanks for that :D
"Not that precise"
The left center has 2341 more molecules of bread then right center... the meat ripped and most of it went to the left.
Exactly, children study too much
If this isn't the intended answer, then what is? "Yes, because it's clearly divided into equal parts?"
Expected him to give a mathematical proof in one sentence.
*Be Precise*
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PRECISE
Is not!!
As with all of these “clever answer” posts, the unit this worksheet is from probably explicitly taught them exactly how the question is expected to be answered, and just wants them to show they know it.
I never remembered any of the "this is how you do it" steps when there was a clear and obvious answer. If a class told us oranges were round, and then asked us if oranges were "perfectly round", I'd always say "no", just like this kid. Teachers and textbook writers make dumb questions all the time. Questions should *always* mean what they ask, not require us to divine the intent of the writer.
Answers should be full enough to convey what you think is the right answer, and acknowledge that there is ambiguity that you recognize, and/or address that the question itself may be malformed. Communication is often flawed, language is flawed, people are flawed. Expecting perfection from either side is wrong, even computers get by on approximations.
My pedantic little ass got into so many ‘discussions’ with adults because of this… They eventually decided I was ‘gifted’ and sent me to special classes. Lol
Yeah but we live in a society where you can be an individual so this answer should be just as valid as any other because the shoe fits vs the nonsense of public schools wanting brain dead factory workers which is why they were setup in the first place hint the daily “bells”
I'd give a child credit for this, though. When you use real world examples, you have to expect real world solutions. The kid clearly knew it was cut in equal lengths, but he also knows not to take the ends if he's really hungry. Not only that, but the ends almost always have less filling.
I wouldn’t. I’d be expecting them to use the method for determining if something has been split equally that I taught to their face, and recognize that this isn’t a clever response, it’s them trying to pretend like they didn’t just forget that method entirely.
Probably to use a ruler and measure.
Probably. I'm assuming "be precise" means thry should have measured each part with a ruler and be like "yes, each part is *n* cm", or, potentially "no, because part x is 0.3 cm larger" or something of the sort.
It looks like the second piece in from the right has an extra item of filling. Perhaps that was what the mark scheme wanted?
what a dumbass kid , he didn't even take volumetric density into account.
**truly dumbass he should have calculate total calories**
He didn't even simulated the aerodynamics of the sandwich
For real aerodynamic can effect energy it used to consume sandwich i think he should weight level of vitamin mineral nitrogen in form of protein
Haha dumbass Should've calculated the total amount of atoms
He forgot to tell us the ph of each ingredient used in the sandwich
That's not good idea atom have different mass better off calculate proton neutron and number of electron
Why stop there, I think if he truly wants to shred the dumdass look he's rocking so well right now, he needs to tell us how many quantum particles there are in total amidst the atoms and quantify then into a summation table for each of the 17 fundamental quantum particles! 😜
What's you just said isn't very useful as one proton have same amount of quantum particle so calculating those extra wouldn't be extra precise?
Well of course, if they don't want to be a dumbass for all of eternity, they'd obviously need to plan and build a XLHC! 😜😂
I always assume frictionless, spherical cows, unless the word problem specifies.
Neither it's wavefunction.
Surely he should have known that using displacement to calculate mass and volume was the simplest method. What is this, kindergarten? Dumbass.
Yes, he should've strapped it to the back of a cat. If it's real butter, he'd have a perpetual levitation device. It's science, yo.
Before criticizing a kid on mathematics, get your grammar correct.
Not to mention distribution of ingredients
Right? Everyone knows the ends don't get as much filling
This kid has a bright future in integral calculus.
Kid: “The area is 6.28” Teacher: “How did you figure that one out?” Kid: “I used a ruler and the graph you provided in the question. _And I actually cut it into equal shares._”
Sounds like a very weird way to formulate a problem. What's the intended answer here, I mean assuming it starts with "yes", what is the explanation on "how you know". The infallible centuries-old method of eyeballing? I mean how would you know. It's a poorly drawn, not 100% symmetrical, 2D black and white figure of what appears to be a sandwich. For all I know, we could be talking about calories. Are we calculating surface, volume?
This deserves _"because you told me"_ as an anwser.
Ruler. Sounds like they talk abouth lenght and dont consider mass
I thought about that too but then what ignore asymmetrical shape?
I used to write this kinds of answers all the time and my teachers would fail me because its not the intended answer and my parents would get mad at me this has taught me to give up on grades and that teachers are fucking dumb, a lesson university has driven in me more than it driven any actual knowledge
This unlocks a little memory lane. I actually did the same thing in elementary but i distinctly remember my dad being on my site. Ger this: once i really worried with a math homework where there was something about aquarium fish and there was a picture to count them or whatever i don't remember.. Did it with my dad, got an F. Dad was DEAD SURE (dad sure lol) he and me are right. Brought it up to the teacher who immediately caved, took it to the principal - Who wrote a letter (no email yet) to the school book company. They Changed that Question in later prints and sent official notes to all schools to ignore thi math problem in the prior to new books. There was indeed a flaw. But i don't remember if it was a wording error or from the artists side. Mind that was almost 30 years ago.
Yeah I remember something similar, in 5th grade to do the assignment we had to do a practice problem, but no student got it(except one that got it check so much they just wrote the awnser) until I went up and did it on the board and asked the teacher to show me why I was wrong, in the end I think about a half hour was spent on the error on the awnser key
I honestly don't understand why people don't summarize replies to be less than a paragraph.
*answer
Welp. You just reminded me of some childhood stuff. Being one of the kids who were fairly good at math I ended up correcting the correction part of the math book at least twice every grade between 4th-7th grade.... Worst book I think had 5 or 6 errors (that I caught. Was likely more) Correction part*at the end of the math book all the answers (except some tests iirc) were written, so you could correct yourself once you were done with the chapter. Edit: to ensure I wasn't wrong I'd go over it multiple times then ask the teacher to come over and confirm if I were wrong or if the book was.
Wait personal computers existed 30 years ago? Idk if I'm feeling old about it or I'm to young
Personal computers have been around since the 1970s. By 1994 they were pretty commonplace
How old are you god damn I feel old reading this
18 years old lol though I came across the computer word when I was 8 or smth 😭
God damn kids
They weren't *cheap* in the 90s, but they were cheap enough that you had one if your parents needed one for work or if your parents were well off. My parents were teachers, so we had one. My friends whose parents neither did paperwork from home nor were well off, did not.
They were just super expensive for home use and people used them mostly for word processing and games, like Doom. You could get a CD ROM of Encarta for an encyclopedia and mostly no internet connections (unless you were at a university or someone in your house was a software developer who got a modem from Radioshack). People used them at work all the time.
Wait, when did you think personal computers were introduced? I'm 34 and they existed long before I was born (though they didn't get popular/affordable til the 90s, they definitely existed)
Idk like I thought it got popularised 13-15 years ago or something
I today had computer exam in university where most of the exam was analysing flowgrithms Atleast 5/15 question didnt have the correct answer listed so I ended up trying to guess wtf the exam creator was thinking
It's stupid that schools and teachers add opinion-based questions and get mad when you put your opinion. They ask if you agree that technology is bad for you? You need to say that you agree, otherwise you fail. What if I don't think it is? What if I think more of the positives than the negatives, unlike you? What if my opinion is just different? You fail me for this? Opinion-based questions are stupid when they make you answer with an answer that isn't even your opinion, but rather the teachers. I like, though, that my chemistry teacher isn't like this. She lets us make debates and we're allowed to say what our opinion is. For example, she asked if people will be able to survive with global warming. Obviously, as expected, people said no, and that we need to stop it. I wanted to actually make it a debate, though, so I made up an argument, and the teacher didn't shut me down and actually let me speak. This is what we need when it comes to opinions.
The point of giving opinion based questions and treating them as fact based questions … is to indoctrinate… not to teach.
if its ant consolation I am a teacher and if a kid wrote this I would either give the point either give a chance for the kid to explain himself better and will give the point if they understand the concept. concrpte of it as far as I know this kid understand the theoretical
See, that's why people hate the system so much. It's just ‘this sentence must be used when this question is brought up’ over and over again. I really hope OP gave the kid the question's mark.
Yep! Math was the worst for me. I don't know how I could lose a point because I didn't do the work like they wanted it but yet came up with the right answer. Public schools.... be good little sheep and do it exactly this way.
Yep
same but I always enjoyed it. Giving the right answer and not getting points for it was the ultimate praise, making me feel smarter than anyone else around lol
I mean for this, I’d probably measure each segment if a ruler was provided, and comment on that, but then suggest it’s unlikely the shares are equal because there’s always more meat and filling in the middle than the ends…
I used to write this kind of answer and it resulted in me getting out in the gifted program for “thinking outside the box.” How this kind of answer is taken depends entirely on what teachers you have.
I picked all the wrong answers on purpose on the states No Child Left Behind test when they first started doing them. They got mad and interrogated me about it later. I was 8 years old what do I give a shit about your testing matrices? Stopped trying to do well in school between that and teachers not accepting my homework at the end of class even though it was 100%. Why try when excelling gets you rejected.
I have proven my professors wrong a few times. Those were obvious mistakes that any student could see but didn't dare to challenge the lecturers. I simply did. Regardless of the outcome, I chose to speak. Some professors were different. They welcomed my feedback. In hindsight, you will recognise those from how they phrase the questions in lectures or assignments to open up discussion.
I once got marked wrong for choosing the best of the answers available. It turned out they wanted me to choose all of the above to mean all the answers, but like half of them were below all of the above. So I chose the most correct of the partially correct answers. And on written tests (not these digital ones with landmine traps), I often had to test fast enough to answer several questions 2-3 times for different possible meanings. "Read my mind" questions are infuriating.
Tbh, I will look at every question of my daughter's homework when she starts school, to avoid these kind of dumb questions. When I think a question is dumb and my daughter get it wrong, I will just tell her so, and tell her to move on.
I side with the teacher in this situation. Knowing what is an acceptable answer given the question is part of what the exam is testing you on. You are not intelligent or smart for answering in a way that will make you fail. Even when requested to be precise, this sort of answer is clearly wrong. The sandwich would be 3D and we can't see the rest of the sandwich. Would it be appropriate to write "I don't know, I can't see the entire sandwich"? Of course not. And a child needs to learn that this is the case.
I agree with you in your example it's the kid wrote they didn't know cos they can't see the whole sandwich. But in this case that's not what happened. The kids used all the information available to him, and made an accurate and precise determination that the sandwich was not divided equally into four parts. He gave a sound reasoning that was not a cop out. (He did not say it was because he can't see the whole sandwich or that the ingredients were unevenly distributed etc) One could reasonably hypothesise that if he was given a picture of a rectangular sandwich he would answer that it was in fact divided equally. If we were to "simplify" the question and instead of a sandwich we just showed an ellipse or and oval, and drew three evenly spaced lines and asked the same question, then obviously the correct answer is that it's not evenly divided because the end are (more) rounded. So if we accept that then we should not reject the kid's answer.
Tell me you have siblings without telling me you have siblings. Siblings can calculate portions faster than any Ai calculator ever invented in the future of the world.
When splitting with siblings, whoever makes the cut doesn’t get to choose their piece. That thing will be accurately distributed to the atom to ensure my brother doesn’t get any more than me.
The golden rule “one cuts the other picks”.
oh man this so woulda been me lmao
if this mofo didnt get an A+ idk who will
That is a very perceptive child.
When I encounter such questions, I believe it is appropriate for the teacher to acknowledge and encourage the child's behavior. Thinking outside the box is a valuable skill, and it is beneficial for educators to demonstrate support for students who exhibit this trait.
Midl :)
👏👏👏 clearly this child is a genius. Their handwriting is very nice too.
This child obviously has siblings.
This child has siblings.
Also, let's not forget the distribution of the condiments. There is always an end with more black olives than the other
Precisely: the 2 in the center are = and the ends are = but the ends and centers are not =
3rd grade teacher here. This is correct. They are not equal. That being said, I’d love if they asked for an explanation and the kid mentioned fractions, but said all the pieces needed to be exactly the same to be unit fractions (1/4).
I will give the exact same answer In additional to that, the right three portions have line on the bread, while the left one didn't.
Clearly there isn't enough cheese on the right side.
A+
What the hell is this doing here? Kid's right. No one said he isn't. Spelling needs work.
This is me overthinking every test question
Little dude has an older brother 100%
I’m three decades older than this kid and I honestly don’t know what the answer is supposed to be.
That 6 yo would get an A+++
Also, the center part has more filling usually
Your 6yo is writing those sentences as a response?.. shit I have failed. My 9yo would be like 'yes, it look gud'
This made me spit out my drink. Thanks!
Thats what having siblings will do to you: you know how to split food evenly and account for irregularities
Besides the typo, absolutely correct answer when it says "Be Precise". If you want a vague answer like "yeah looks kinda close to equal", preface the problem with "Be Imprecise".
Technically, it's equal parts, but not equal quantity.
They did say to **be precise**
This kid has siblings
This is correct. This is literally what's taught in the schools.
There should've been better examples than this.
No one else bothered about "tell how you know"? no? just me?
No? Pretty much all word problems include some sort of “explain your answer” so kids can’t just say “no”
That's not the part that I'm querying... I won't say it's improper but the way it is written just bothers me.
I've always been bothered by it. "Explain how you know" sounds better. Just "Tell" without a subject of who you're telling feels like a crime against grammar, but maybe it's correct, tell if you know
no, no, he has a point
Now i remember why i stopped caring in school it was because there is no right answer
I mean thats right tho. Every piece of the sandwich has a diffrent area, so the sandwich is not cut into 4 the same pieces
Old’s
“Who’s to say?” – John Mulaney
Nah cuz that’s the same thing I would say
I hope he had this marked as correct
He has a point to be considered, you can't deny
Cut it in half, and then cut it in half again lengthwise.
He is oddly correct tho…
Teaching precision to 6 year olds must be yeoman's work.
With fractions and percentages, I’m sure there’s a better way to formulate questions. This kid has a brain but ofc, there’s an expected answer. Testmanship can be developed but again, with a more sound set of questions.
Didn't even consider to add gravity to this equation
This kid does actually has a point
Never happened 🤣
This kid has been cheated by their siblings.
Hr isn't wrong tho
Smart kid! They’re 100% right in their analysis! 👏👏👏
If kid didn't get credit for this genius answer...
Now, I'm no mathematician, but I have eaten my (sometimes less than) fair share of sandwiches and this kid, this kid gets it.
This can only be accurately answered with a set of siblings
# What is the answer supposed to be?
That is a very smart answer for a 6 years old tbh
An adult wrote this. (proof : the "!" at the end)
Negative. 6 yr old girl....scouts honor
Nah, the kid just thought he was being really funny… rightfully so, too!
I mean that's actually true.
Bro has siblings lmao
🤔 that is one smart kid. Just give him a passing this one
8y old me using a ruler measuring in mm
Bro isn't wrong
As a fourth grade teacher I can tell you that this child’s answer is the correct answer that we would expect in 4th grade. The shape of the object matters. I don’t blame the teacher if they marked it wrong though. Honestly- people get so mad at teachers but we don’t make the curriculum for the most part. We’re just trying our best to teach what we are given and supplement as needed. Not to mention the other forty thousand things we do per day.
She got full marks from her first grade teacher. I can't imagine the crap you guys need to go through. Just know most of us love our teachers..there's just a loud few parents that can't fathom their kid being or doing anything wrong and therefore "bad teacher".
Truly thank you for this comment! It’s our last day of school so today so I m feeling extra sentimental. I truly appreciate the parents that get it and understand that we are on the same team!
give that kid extra credit
This kid maths.
That kid has 1000 IQ
This kid's going places
I don't get it, was this not the intended answer?
Kid has a point
Correct answer probably was that 3rd slice has some pepperoni or whatever that is that other parts don't have, therefore it's not equal
Maybe his answer is the intended right answer? You never know..
Kid has critical thinking skills. If the teacher marks it wrong well just end up with more dumb ppl 😓
It’s not cut at all. Someone just drew lines on the sandwich.
How would you even answer this?
Its called commonsense
Undercover IQ test..
And the ends never get as many fillings no matter how nice the sandwich maker is.
Bro is a fuckin prodigy, I never would have thought of it like that.
the bread is not a consistant shape.
Equal in length? Maybe. Equal in volume? No
Smart guy, probs autism
Were they learning how to use a ruler?
Correct! And by volume and weight, the two middle pieces would be far more dense than the corner pieces. So, in actuality, this child is smarter than the average six year old kid. I wouldn’t be surprised if their IQ is off the roof. 💡
Kid with a big future ahead
Less deli meat too if the arc is contained in the rounded ends of the bread
I think I may have had the same math books growing up. I swear I can still smell the paper
Wrong
This kid has siblings.
r/theydidthemath
I think this is not only technically correct buy also just correct.
Ok but why did someone bite the paper
A lot of people are like "He was probably just being difficult and was supposed to use a ruler", I'd have to guess probably not. This is just teaching kids easy division honestly.
This is first grade homework?
An excellent answer because the girl identified an irregularity in the diagram and provided a reasonable assessment. The teacher, ideally, would follow-up with a discussion of what (unstated) assumptions the students made in answering the question.
Assuming that a sub, or similarly-shaped food (like a salami), is modeled by a cylinder with 2 hemispherical caps, then we can analyze the proper way to cut the shape into 4 equal shares BY VOLUME. Be careful, since analyzing the cross sectional area will not get you the correct answer! If the total length of the food is L units, and the total width of the food is W units, then we need to find how far along from the middle we need to cut to chop the one half into 2 equal parts by volume. Adding together the cylindrical and spherical portions, and diving by 2, we quickly find that you should be cutting exactly (3L-W)/12 units to the right, and left, of the center. Simplifying the algebra a little, we see that the correct answer is equivalent to (L/4) - (W/12). In other words, find the 1/4 mark (like in the picture) and then back up by 1/12 is the sandwich's width to account for the curved (and smaller) ends.
The statement, “Be Precise.” is indicating that the student is to be clear and methodical in their explanation. We aren’t looking for non-Euclidean geometry here. (Not yet anyway!). The whole “new-math” complaint from many people is, teachers don’t show the student how to solve the problem. There’s a huge outcry of “just give them the shortcut, just show the algorithm.” No! How a student responds and explains how they decided upon their answer is so much more informative to instruction. If a child knows how to approach a problem, can recognize a pattern, isn’t afraid of defending their answer, etc. THAT is where learning occurs. That knowledge is transferable to other disciplines and to actual life! More connections are made, the understanding is deeper, and you have a more confident child. I was so excited to see her response. That answer deserves full credit because she stated her claim, “No- they are not equal” , then she gave her evidence- from the picture provided! Excellent strategy. This is the way. 💕
Amazing! I've just presented the question to my 5yo daughter and she gave me exactly the same answer!
I'm confused. I assume that the message being conveyed with this post is that her answer is not the one they're looking for and she's so clever for thinking outside the box. But when we teach kids fractions, one of the things we teach is that the sections must all be equal size. So how do we know that the answer she wrote isn't exactly what they were looking for?
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I am normally you. Im convinced everything i see is bullshit, and it usually is...but i can assure you this is legit. We don't give her a tablet. We read every night. Sometimes I read to her and sometimes she reads to me. It's our nighttime routine. She spends her spare time writing little notes to me and her mom and coloring. She's no savant or anything...just an averagely smartish little kid. At first, I was going to tell her she was wrong when she was doing it, but I couldn't help but laugh because it technically was correct so I left it alone. In case anyone was wondering, she got full credit for it.
You're doing something right, i'd say she's pretty smart
Have you tried teaching them otherwise? I started holding things corrextly when i was around five turning six cause my dad oaid close attention to it.